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Ed Note: I hesitated to publish this in fear of sparking a heated political debate on our lovely little sports blog. In the end, I found this story provided fascinating insight into a prominent Suns player that was not going to be shared anywhere else. I encourage you to read this with an open mind regardless of your opinion and keep the discussion civil and respectful of the wide range of reactions that are sure to come.

 

Steve Nash, already well known for his political views, used Twitter recently to publicize an article in the left-leaning The Nation Magazine.

Nash in sending a link to the article tweeted, "I read a unique and interesting article by Sean Penn. http://www.thenation.com/do... Not getting on my soapbox but worthwhile."

The article is a first hand account from actor and activist Sean Penn of his trip to Venezuela and Cuba which included interviews with Hugo Chavez and Raul Castro. The leaders of those two countries are highly maligned by much of what Nash describes as the "main stream media".

After the Phoenix Suns practiced today and once he had finished answering basketball related questions from the assembled media, I had a chance to ask the Suns MVP point guard about the article and what he meant to convey when he linked to it via twitter.

"I thought it was interesting that he took his time to go down there and meet with people first hand and try and balance his opinions and not necessarily take what we see every day in our mainstream media outlets as the truth."

 

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Many Americans consider both Chavez and Castro to be undemocratic dictators. Nash in his comments counters that perception which he feels is biased by a media that has it's own motivations.

"I thought it was an interesting article because I thought it was a new look, an new perspective on the situations. A new connectivity to the situations. I think it is always a good lesson for us to not necessarily buy into what some would say is an influenced, motivated main stream media."

Nash like many NBA players was a supporter of Barack Obama in the last election and in February of this year he authored an article for the English publication The Guardian in which he wrote:

Obama represented so much for so many people. He's someone the younger generation can relate to - he loves sports, he has young daughters - and it goes without saying what he means to the African-American community. And people were so ready for a change after eight years of the Bush administration. It was a perfect storm.

I asked Steve if he was encouraged by the new administration so far.

"I think it's great. They are going to make mistakes but it's such a microscope right now especially because of the economic situation and Iraq but..I think the amount of things they are doing and have tried to do thus far is exciting and commendable. Sometimes government can take so long to come into play and they've been very proactive and I think have taken a leadership stance that  makes America once again look like a citizen of the world."

My final question to Steve before he headed off to a team meeting was how closely he followed this stuff. "Not that closely" was the response but for some reason that's the only thing he said that I have my doubts about.

 

Full audio version of my interview with Nash:

 

 

Link to a You Tube interview with Sean Penn talking about his interviews with Chavez and Castro.

 

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My girlfriend

is from Cuba, and I have heard plenty from her and her relatives that still live there, and neither Raul or Fidel sound like very nice people. I’m for Obama having talks with Cuba and lifting sanctions, travel restrictions, etc., because those things never really hurt the people at the top anyway.

"I can shoot with my left hand, I can shoot with my right hand, I'm amphibious"

by Diosnomeama on Mar 25, 2009 8:47 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

People can have different views of things

Nash is a famous sportsman and that is why their words and actions have more impact, but I won’t give more importance.

by matrix7 on Mar 25, 2009 8:55 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't care

I’m not lashing out, I’m just saying I don’t have feelings either way. I disagree completely with what Nash says and don’t get me started on Sean Penn, but even though I agree with many of the things Charles Barkely and Gary Sinise say, I don’t care that they say those things either.

For me, personally, they have a place in my life and their place is to entertain me. That’s what they do best. Barkley makes me laugh and so does Penn, while Nash helps me feel good about my team winning, and Sinise is just a goddamn good actor in everything I’ve seen him in. But when I want political coverage or social opinions I get them from more qualified sources.

It is interesting that sports stars (Barkely aside) seem to be talking more politics lately. Been hearing a lot of baseball players (and Coach K) speak their minds on current events. I don’t think that’s a bad thing, no. I think it shows they pay attention to real life. Makes them more real if anything.

Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.

by SunDolphin on Mar 25, 2009 9:19 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

oh and....

Cuban sanctions should be lifted because it really is a beautiful country and Americans ought to be able to go there and interact. It would makes richer the lives of those Americans, and it would bring a fall to Castro much more quickly than keeping him in the corner where he can play by himself. Probably though if we lifted sanctions he’d sanction us because what dictator in their right minds would want American tourists floating their freedom on public streets?

And does anyone really think Sean Penn got a free reign to do what he wanted down in Venezuela? I bet Penn had fun, anyway, on his state-run vacation.

Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.

by SunDolphin on Mar 25, 2009 9:28 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

There's

nothing worse than celebrities with opinions. I agree with SunDolphin, does Sean Penn think he saw anything Hugo Chavez or Castro didn’t want him to see? Also, his interviews are crap. It’s not like they’re going to say “yeah I’m an evil man and I enjoy screwing my people.”

"I can shoot with my left hand, I can shoot with my right hand, I'm amphibious"

by Diosnomeama on Mar 25, 2009 9:57 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Si, es verdad.

Todo el dinero en el mundo no puede comprar la inteligencia.

"I can shoot with my left hand, I can shoot with my right hand, I'm amphibious"

by Diosnomeama on Mar 25, 2009 10:50 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Leave this stuff out, PStan

Nash is a good basketball player. Unfortunately sports celebrities who won the genetic lottery and spoiled Hollywood stars who make a living presenting scripted entertainment are poor sources for reasoned debate on subjects related to reality in life. These people’s perception of reality is by definition on the fringes of the statistical bell curve, and we do our society a disservice when we afford them a voice in our society grossly out of proportion to their number.

Through incredible fortune and some hard work, they have been graced with a platform. Some of them, such as Tiger Woods, choose to resist the urge to meddle. As Barkley says, “I am not a role model”. I know a thing or two about Chavez and Castro. The fact that they hate the US says a lot to me – the only country in history ever to forgive whole natiional debts. The only country ever to give or restore independence to conquered lands. Historically the first nation on the scene in a natural disaster. I could go on and on.

Chavez is a dictator in the Robert Mugabe mold. Landowners are being relieved of their lands. Chavez hav fixed elections, packed courts, and had opponents jailed. Is this the kind of person Nash supports? Maybe we SHOULD trade the guy.

April 29, 2008 Total Eclipse of the Sun. Is the sky falling?

by Hawk42 on Mar 25, 2009 10:12 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

And you, how do you call yourself?

You, who don’t respect the opinion of others. You act like David Robinson in 2003. You’re a bigot.

by matrix7 on Mar 25, 2009 10:32 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

In USA

if you are poor you are jailes, but if you are rich, yo can hire good lawyers and get freedom; is this justice?

by matrix7 on Mar 25, 2009 10:36 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don’t like the justice system don’t commit the crime. That’s the difference between living in America and living in a dictatorship. Cops here just don’t arrest someone to arrest someone. They do hand out speeding tickets though, for revenue, but still JRich has no excuse.

Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.

by SunDolphin on Mar 25, 2009 9:10 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't respect everyone else's opinion

Does that make me a bigot, too?

First, I didn’t see a lack of respect. I saw Hawk’s analysis of something.
Second, not everyone’s opinion is equal. Does that make somebody who recognizes a bad idea a bigot?

Name-calling is beneath the readers/commenters of this blog.

Mmmmm ... Guinness

by JSun on Mar 25, 2009 11:12 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

how typical

way to ruin a good discussion.

If the world was perfect, it wouldn't be.

by unnamedDBacksfan on Mar 25, 2009 11:38 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

What?

April 29, 2008 Total Eclipse of the Sun. Is the sky falling?

by Hawk42 on Mar 25, 2009 3:37 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Matrix7

You are totally out of line. What in my post made you call me a bigot? I don’t think someone has a right to call someone a bigot unless they at least know the person. You are making a fool out of yourself.

April 29, 2008 Total Eclipse of the Sun. Is the sky falling?

by Hawk42 on Mar 25, 2009 3:51 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I froze for nearly 3 min in front of the screen

thinking if I should post a comment about this. Stan e-mailed us asking if he should post this and most of us agreed that he should. But the truth is that politics is a very delicate subject. Everyone has their own opinions and should not be judged by them. I’m not a Chavez supporter by any means, I will never support anyone who funds and gives weapons to terrorists but the truth is that USA have also done their share of “bad things” throughout the course of history and it’s understable (to me, at least) why many people “hate” the US.

Back in 1989, The US invaded Panama to take away Noriega (which was trained by the CIA). Bush said that they were doing this to restore order and to spare Panamanians from this dictator. A dictator that was funded and supported by the US. Once he started to get out of hand, they had no choice but to put him in jail. As a result of the invasion, many inocent people died. I remember my dad and mom being searched by soldiers like if they were criminals, not being able to go outside my house in fear of getting shot. It was total chaos. Most of the city was in flames. You think Bush cared about us? He was afraid that he would lose control over the Panama Canal, losing Billions of dollars in the process. The next president was Guillermo Endara, who was not more than a puppet owned by the US.

So, I try to remain open minded and I try not to judge people by their political beliefs. There’s always two sides of a story. I try to remember that.

"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"

by PanamaSun on Mar 25, 2009 10:59 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anytime that anyone interviews a political leader and publishes the results, it's a story

And it has importance — one way or the other. On the one hand, you can say its a thoughtful insight into the leaders of subjugated nations. One the other hand, you can say it’s part of the propaganda machine and further evidence of the evil dictatorships. However, that evaluation needs to be done within the context of history, politics, other interviews and a plethora of other information. The interview itself cannot be viewed in a vaccuum. Also, the evaluation probably does not fall neatly on one side or the other (perhaps, though, more closely to one of the dogmatic views, but not black-and-white)

Should it be here? Not so sure … (I missed the emails)

If, however, Nash’s “awareness” made you research it and come to your own conclusions and helped you define your view on it, then I suppose its helpful. There are a whole bunch of angles, so if you want a political discussion, I’m sure there are a bunch of sites for that. For now, however, just agree that Nash highlighted something you may not have known about and may still not care about.

Mmmmm ... Guinness

by JSun on Mar 25, 2009 11:21 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's true

my government has been responsible for some major atrocities that spit in the face of the principles this country was founded on. I have little or no faith in the governement as a result of this hypocrisy. Believe me, America is guilty of enough revisionist history to make my head explode. At the same time though, I hate it when privileged sheltered celebrities engage in their own version of distorting the facts, when they know very well that many people are going to give more weight to their words. Pero lo siento para el sufrimiento de mi paĂ­s causĂł su familia.

"I can shoot with my left hand, I can shoot with my right hand, I'm amphibious"

by Diosnomeama on Mar 25, 2009 11:26 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope

I didn’t mangle that last part too badly.

"I can shoot with my left hand, I can shoot with my right hand, I'm amphibious"

by Diosnomeama on Mar 25, 2009 11:28 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rule of thumb

I tend to judge political regimes by how many people disappear while they are in power. A little simplistic, but hey, it is what it is.

April 29, 2008 Total Eclipse of the Sun. Is the sky falling?

by Hawk42 on Mar 25, 2009 3:47 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

and it's your right to do so

and yes, it is what it is..

"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"

by PanamaSun on Mar 25, 2009 3:59 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Usually (not always)

When people hate other people it is a lack of communication or a misunderstanding. For instance, I was laid off from my job. Some would say I have every reason to hate my ex-boss, or even the CEO of the company who signed the order. But I don’t. I also don’t vote according to the economic conditions. I vote based on principles which are long-held and don’t change. I appreciate the viewpoints of people raised in other countries. I had an Iranian-American coworker that had long talks with me because he was intrigued that an American knew so much about his country’s history. I don’t agree with most of his opinions, but it was clear to me why he had them. I worked with a Pakistani who was stunned when I asked him a question about local religious traditions.

I guarantee I know more about other countries than 95% of Americans. I determined long ago to research things so that when I became involved in discussions, I could do so intelligently. Which makes me laugh out loud to myself at the simpleminded foolishness of Matrix’s statement. It is that kind of ignorance which is at the root of much war and suffering in our world.

April 29, 2008 Total Eclipse of the Sun. Is the sky falling?

by Hawk42 on Mar 25, 2009 4:09 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's not exactly

the USA which outsiders (like me) hate, it’s more like the past adminsitration and the excessive bigotry of many of it’s people. From the outside, it often seems like Americans simply refuse to accept the truth, or any faults of the USA. It’s not like there is no significance of being a WASP now, even though there shouldn’t be any.

Once upon a time the Suns got out on the break... and along came Steve sucKerr

by Murcy on Mar 25, 2009 5:16 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh and also

the first country to wipe out tribes of nations to get lands for their people. and the first country to drop an atomic bomb on someone else to show their power. don’t get me wrong, there have been MANY great things in the USa but one can never fully judge a country in which one is living in. I can’t judge my country. I hate it . Yes, Chavez IS a dictator. Nash does support him. how does that alter his basketball value???

Once upon a time the Suns got out on the break... and along came Steve sucKerr

by Murcy on Mar 25, 2009 5:14 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Really?
the first country to wipe out tribes of nations to get lands for their people.

That never happened before the Americans started expanding West in the 1800s? The French, British, Spanish and Dutch didn’t do that before 1776? The Romans never wiped out tribes of anyone? Alexander the Great? The Russian aristocracy? The Pelopenisian Wars? What about all that “300” stuff that’s so popular now? Who was invading? What about when David, et al., led the Hebrews into the Promised Land that was occupied by the Canaanites? Mongols? The wars to “unify” China? What about the bloodlust of the Maya? I know many Japanese that can’t stand Koreans, and this was the same country that gassed Manchuria. Come on …

I think there’s a strong argument to be made that the deplorable manner in which the Americans treated the native tribes may actually have been the best treatment a conquering nation has ever given to a conquered nation.

See … this is why politics and basketball don’t mix. I can’t help myself.

Mmmmm ... Guinness

by JSun on Mar 25, 2009 5:35 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

If we weren’t the first to use the bomb….who would have been the first? Germany? Russia? We knocked Germany out of that race and by our using the bomb Russia got a good damn look at what it can do and thank God that was enough to stay their unsteady hands.

As the Indians go, that’s history. What I’m concerned more about is how some modern Americans are currently living in poverty on government reservations based on their ethnicity. As far as I know no American living today had a hand in the Trail of Tears and most of us aren’t even related to anyone who helped carve up the Western United States. I’m very thankful for what very little Indian blood I have (on both my parents’ sides of the family, but several generations removed) because without even that little bit I would not be here today. I’m also thankful that history took the path it did, because again, I would not be here today (and none of you would have been, either) if it hadn’t. Can’t change history without changing the future and all that. So I think it’s very unfair to condemn America (or Germany or Iraq or Russia or Japan or Brittain or Spain or Italy or India or Greece or…..) for its past crimes. We are our parents children, but that doesn’t ever make us their keepers.

Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.

by SunDolphin on Mar 25, 2009 8:54 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

fair potins, all of them

however, not entirely correct: romans never wiped out tribes, they incorporated them as much as possible, as they needed a strong presence in the place with which tehy can cooperate, plus use their warriors as auxilliaries in their legions. The Greek wars between the city states were mainly concerned about the handling of money in the Delos Alliance (Athens stole most of it without warning anyone). Alexander the Great also tried to be as much a unifying king as a conqueror. However, you are absolutely right about the mongols, but what bothers me about the massacre of Indians is the manner in which it was done: governmentally justified genocide is not a too wonderful thing.

also: politics and basketball don’t mix, that’s true, but atheletes are, in the first place, humans with opinions. I can totally understand that this opinion for Americans is much more… confusing, or hateable than for Europeans (especially for leftists like me), however, I think he is entitled to it, even if it’s bullshit. And the Castro system is something that will NEVER be clear, it’s just too confusing and there are too many opinions about it to make a correct judgement of it.

peace

Once upon a time the Suns got out on the break... and along came Steve sucKerr

by Murcy on Mar 26, 2009 6:16 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Romans?

It was forced assimilation or death. Kind of like The Borg from Star Trek.

governmentally justified genocide

That’s essentially what a war is. No one hold the moral high ground there.

Mmmmm ... Guinness

by JSun on Mar 26, 2009 9:54 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

skills and brains, what a combo

First and foremost Steve Nash is a human, and as such he’s bound to do what humans do, i.e. think about things. In his case a lot thinking these days must be centered around getting his team into the playoffs, but when reading the papers (and not just the sports pages, but the headline news and stuff) he’s bound to formulate opinions about what’s being printed.

Is it so unthinkable that an athlete might have some thoughts on places like Cuba and Venezuela? Or that he might want to share a somewhat different take on those places when he hears it being presented, in this case via interviews conducted by Sean Penn?

I have to say props to Nash for passing on the info and putting it out there in case some of his fans, like me I guess, who are willing to let him have a say about things, including what some might interpret as politics. I think it’s just him encouraging us to keep an open mind and not necessarily accept wholesale what the mainstream feeds us on a regular basis.

Steve Nash was born overseas, grew up north of our borders (assuming Americans are mostly contributing to this discussion), so doesn’t it kind of make sense he see geopolitics a bit differently, and possibly more open-mindedly?

I typing this from Taiwan, and I just want to say as a Phoenix Suns fan and a Steve Nash fan, it’s refreshing to read someone who’s such a great b-ball player exercising his right to express himself, and in an intelligent way, which to me did not come across as pushy or confrontational.

Respect. Glad to have Nash on my favorite team—both in terms of his skills and his brains!

by radiant ridge on Mar 25, 2009 10:42 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Celebrities

Are coveted and coddled by these types of regimes. I remember Billy Graham coming back from the Soviet Union and claiming that there was religious liberty. He was brought to a commune filled with energetic young people enthusiastically working to serve the motherland. What he didn’t know is that the regular workers were bussed out and college students were brought in and they even dusted off the local cathedral that had been made into a warehouse to complete the show. Even in the last few years of the Bush administration, a similar thing was done in China to convince President Bush that there was liberty, even while hundreds of thousands languish in jails, some for such a small item as to distribute religious material. My point is, Steve and Sean are large targets for these governments, and they are using them to their best advantage.

Even so, Nobody has explained the rigged elections, confiscated lands, and jailed political opponents. I don’t see any body responding to that except those who aare just calling me names.

April 29, 2008 Total Eclipse of the Sun. Is the sky falling?

by Hawk42 on Mar 25, 2009 4:18 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

the problem is

that while this all true (I should know, living in a country which was a soviet satellite state), there are many dirty things in a democracy which are never spoken or publicized. there is still book censiorship, and also, most (repeat MOST) Americans make way too much fuss about worthless things out of bigotry (like in the case of Josh Howard smoking pot – so what? let him do it, if he wants to, it’s not like he commited some crime while under the influence of the green). Also: how about Guantanamo? And there is an abundance of things which I have not highlighted. This is not blak and white, it’s either gray (western perspective) or striped colorful (eastern perspective)

Once upon a time the Suns got out on the break... and along came Steve sucKerr

by Murcy on Mar 25, 2009 5:22 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

The point is,

that his opinion isn’t and shouldn’t be more important just because he’s a celebrity, not that he isn’t allowed to have one.

"I can shoot with my left hand, I can shoot with my right hand, I'm amphibious"

by Diosnomeama on Mar 25, 2009 10:51 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

He's allowed to have an opinion

But why does his get more pub than mine or your’s or anyone else’s? (I think we might be agreeing)

Mmmmm ... Guinness

by JSun on Mar 25, 2009 11:09 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Curt Schilling?

When he wasn’t pitching, his mouth was sure busy spouting his beliefs.

I would rather hear your opinion and the thoughts of others here than someone on a pedestal.

If the world was perfect, it wouldn't be.

by unnamedDBacksfan on Mar 25, 2009 11:44 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

but did anyone ever listen to Schilling?

That guy just sort of talked to hear himself speak. I’m not sure that anyone paid attention. Mainly he just annoyed people. Kind of like Jeremy Roenick.

Kind of like me … at work … at home … here

Mmmmm ... Guinness

by JSun on Mar 25, 2009 11:47 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL!

If the world was perfect, it wouldn't be.

by unnamedDBacksfan on Mar 25, 2009 11:59 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

It is the fault of the media

for giving these guys a soap box and asking the questions and publishing the….oh, wait… :)

by Seth Pollack on Mar 25, 2009 12:59 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

Why...

does his and most of the other celebs have to have LIBERAL opinions? Are John Wayne and Ronald Reagan really REALLY dead?

It’s almost impossible to believe that at one time Hollywood was almost entirely conservative.

Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.

by SunDolphin on Mar 25, 2009 9:04 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I follow the Chris Rock

school of thought. There are things I’m conservative about, and there are things I’m liberal about.

"I can shoot with my left hand, I can shoot with my right hand, I'm amphibious"

by Diosnomeama on Mar 25, 2009 9:39 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

You want conservative celebrities?

Try country music stars and Nascar drivers. Just sayin’.

by SoCalSun on Mar 26, 2009 10:08 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

True, too, but a small minority, as are a handful of actors, including Gary Sinise and Arnold Schwartzenegger. And their voices aren’t, in my opinion, loud enough or listened to often enough when they are.

Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.

by SunDolphin on Mar 26, 2009 2:45 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

probably because

the world of celebrities is full of drugs and scandals, but that’s just a hunch

Once upon a time the Suns got out on the break... and along came Steve sucKerr

by Murcy on Mar 26, 2009 5:43 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

We are

but I guess my comment wasn’t that clear.

"I can shoot with my left hand, I can shoot with my right hand, I'm amphibious"

by Diosnomeama on Mar 25, 2009 11:13 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

A couple of things

I think you did the right thing in posting this, Stan. If we (as a society) are going to post and read about Shaq’s tweets about his trips to dairy queen, I would think Nash’s tweets about an interesting article he read are fair game as well. If you just want to see Shaq or Nash or player X shut up and play, then I would think you could get that by just tuning into the game. By following them on twitter or signing into a message board I think you are making yourself a willing participant in the conversation. To quote Jules from Pulp Fiction, “If my answers upset you then you should stop asking me questions.”

For every person who lauds Tiger (or MJ, more originally) for just playing his game and keeping his trap shut, there is another faulting him for not using his influence to make a difference. I suppose it’s all good when they espouse views we agree with, but they must be ignorant a-holes when we don’t like what they have to say. Remember when Nash was in Dallas and dared to assert he was against the Iraq war? How’d that turn out again? Think he might get a different response if he wore that shirt again today?

by SoCalSun on Mar 25, 2009 11:25 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Leading by example?

If Tiger keeps his trap shut, but shows that through hard work and dedication you can succeed, hasn’t he used his position to influence others in a postive way?

If Magic Johnson invests in FatBurger and puts them in parts of towns where kids need jobs and the neighborhood needs economic rejuvenation, hasn’t he used his position as a positive influence? (At least I thought I read something about that — maybe it was just that he was eating there)?

I think there are always persons who want to use to a celebrity to push an agenda. To criticize for not pushing an agenda it misguided. So what if MJ doesn’t care about what so-and-so cares about?

So, just because someone is not speaking up about something, does not mean they are not making a positive impact.

Mmmmm ... Guinness

by JSun on Mar 25, 2009 11:37 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed, sort of

I was using the “keep your trap shut and just play” as a generic euphemism for athletes remaining neutral on an issue, not necessarily just referring to the act of speaking. I would definitely agree about Magic Johnson and his efforts to bring various franchises to economically challenged neighborhoods as using his influence to make a difference—I never heard about Fatburger, but I know he did that with Starbucks, and you’ll have to decide for yourself if having a new Starbucks in a neighborhood is a positive influence or not. He also speaks out on a number of issues, AIDS and HIV being the most obvious.

MJ had a famous response once when he was asked to speak up about a particular issue, “Republicans buy shoes, too.”—meaning his priority was marketing, not effecting change, which is his right to do.

Lastly, I’m not sure I buy the argument that the mere fact of being better at something than just about everyone else is in and of itself a positive motivator to other people to work hard and shoot for success. Have you read Malcolm Gladwell’s book “Outliers”? Very interesting ideas on how the super-successful are not just hard-working, gifted individuals, but that they benefit from extraordinary luck as well, in regards to opportunities, random meetings, etc. Good stuff.

by SoCalSun on Mar 25, 2009 12:45 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Outliers

Never read it,

But I do agree that success (or “good luck”) generally comes at the intersection of hard work and opportunity.

Not necessarily Tiger Woods, but I’ve done pretty well by hitting the right thing at the right time and taking advantage. I also like to think I’ve worked hard at it and/or I was the right person to take advantage of the opportunity presented.

Mmmmm ... Guinness

by JSun on Mar 25, 2009 2:06 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Being a retired Air Force

air traffic controller who has been around the globe including the Middle East and Bosnia, I will say one thing , Yes Steve Nash there is two sides to the story, and Your “main stream media” has a problem covering it.

"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"

by Grockcubs on Mar 25, 2009 11:37 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Nash Needs To Stick With Basketball

My family is Cuban, and I’m extremely educated on Cuba, its history, and its politics. The Castros are comparable to any other brutal regime (see North Korea), and have a history of murder, torture, and oppression, just for starters. For Nash to even suggest that the Castros are highly maligned by the media gets Steve promoted directly to douchebag. He should spend his millions on a real education instead of sympathizing with with other ignorant morons like Sean Penn.

It’s amazing how poorly educated people are about the Castros. People, please do some research before you go by yourself a Che Guevara t-shirt at The Gap.

by Ashlov on Apr 2, 2009 8:14 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

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