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In Regards to the Future

There has been much talk around here about what we think the Suns should do with the offseason.  While many people have differing views, I think one thing is certain: there needs to be certainty.  With this past season being broken up into different pieces (the "slow down and play defense" style, the "Porter gives up and turns the ball over to Nash" style, and the "7 Seconds or Shaq" style), it's been tough to really see what this group can do together.  We've all seen flashes of greatness (beating the Lakers after Amaré goes down with the eye injury), as well as moments of despair (losing to the worst team in the NBA while fighting for a playoff spot), but I'm here to offer my opinion as to what the Suns should do in the offseason.

First, I'll break down the roster:

Ed Note: Nice breakdown. Expect to see more of this after the season ends as well and especially after the May 19th lottery and we know who's drafting where and what deals might be appealing to move up in the draft.

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::STARTERS::

Steve Nash: If we can get a young (2-3 years experience), decently talented point guard in return, I say we go for it.  He's the heart and soul of the team, but after we decide what mode we'll be in next year (rebuilding or gut it out with the current roster), we can decide what to do with our aging veterans.

Jason Richardson: Here's the debate: he's put up sick numbers (minus the 2-11, 4 point performance against Utah) since the Barbosa injury, but is he really that vital to the team?  Can we get draft picks in return?  If we can, we should.

Grant Hill: We keep him.  He's found new life in his legs, and he's on track to play all 82 games, something he's never done in his career (I'm knocking on wood, don't worry).  He's rejuvenated, he likes Phoenix, and he likes the way things have gone since Gentry took over.  Why not keep him around, even if he does want a little more than the veteran's minimum?  If we're getting rid of some of our other marquee players, we'll have a little more money to throw at a guy who is more than deserving.

Amaré Stoudemire:
Oh, Amaré.  He has never ceased to be one of the most enigmatic players in the NBA.  The Gentry era started with a bang from him, until he was tragically sidelined with eye surgery.  From the way he's talked about it, and the way the doctors have urged him to be careful, I'm a little wary of that eye.  If he can come back (and actually commit to wearing the goggles full time) and dominate as usual, sure, hang onto the guy.  If not, might as well sell him for what we can.  In my opinion, he's the most unsure part of the Suns' picture right now.  Right now, he's our biggest piece.  He's the one we can get the most return for.  He's the one that, if we decide to rebuild, should be traded for future talents.

Shaquille O'Neal: We keep Shaq through his contract and see what he wants after that.  My guess is that no one will be offering him the $20 million he's making right now, even if he plays next year like he did this year.  He's playing better than his championship year in Miami, but honestly...$20 million is just too much.  I could see him getting something close to $13 million, if he can prove that he can keep up this years' pace (or improve on it).  We'll see once his contract expires.

::BENCH::

Leandro Barbosa: Keep him as long as possible.  Rarely do you find his talent, work ethic, and speed all in on package.  I don't think it's unfair to say that Barbosa is (or should be) the future of this franchise.  The willingness he shows to improve and work at his deficiencies impresses me.  And, on top of that, he's shown me this year that he actually might be able to play a little point guard.  He and Shaq work well together, and even though he's more of a combo guard, he can still run the point adequately.  Decision making has always been a problem of his, but I've seen that improve this year.

Matt Barnes:
If we can get him some serious treatment for his Kobebryantosis, I say we give him a shot.  When he's on, he's on.  He's proven that he can put up good numbers.  However, when he's off, he still thinks he's on, and therein lies the problem.  When he's not feelin' it, he still forces his shots, expecting them to fall.  If he can learn to differentiate between the two, I say we give him a small offer.  If he rejects that (or can't break out of his "I love to shoot the basketball, even if it's detrimental to the team" style), let him go.

Louis Amundson: The biggest surprise of the season.  Keep Amundson, so long as we can keep him for a reasonable price.  His free throw shooting is horrific (he makes shaq look like Steve Nash, at times), and his talent is a little iffy, but you won't find someone that gives as much effort as he does when he's on the court.  He's a very good bench player, and seems to have found his niche in the current Suns system.  If he can improve a few things this summer, I don't see why we don't take a chance on him.  Plus, he's a fan favorite, something we're going to need if we decide to blow things up and suck for a few years.

Jared Dudley:
I think we should keep Dudley for the rest of the contract we have for him, and then reevaluate.  He's a solid bench player, and even though he's not the most talented, can't jump the highest, and isn't the fastest player on the court, he does give effort.  He commits to grabbing rebounds.  He tries to make good decisions while he's on the floor.  That's more than we can say for a few of our other starters, at times...(ahem, Amaré).

Goran Dragic: I've always been high on Dragic.  He's always shown flashes of what he can do.  On top of that, he's one of our only true young prospects, and since he's been showing a little more confidence as of late, I've been impressed.  Keep him.

Robin Lopez: Here's the deal: we won't get anything of value in return for Lopez.  Maybe some cash considerations, maybe a second round draft pick, but after his less than stellar year, no one is going to want to take him off our hands.  We might as well see if he can start to put things together and be a rotation player.

Alando Tucker: If any of you have read anything else I post around here, you'll know how high I am on Tucker.  With Richardson and Barbosa around, he hasn't had much of a shot to really step into the role he was bound to get before his injury.  He's a smart player, he's unselfish, he's a hard worker, and he's a good locker room presence with his humorous attitude.  Keep him.

Stromile Swift: Eh, he was just a rental anyway.  Let him go.


::COACH::


Alvin Gentry: Keep Gentry and give him the full time offer.  He has shown that he knows who the hot hand is, and he has proven that he can still give the bench playing time and develop players and still win.  Since our bench hasn't had much actual playing time together, things are a bit chaotic at times, but even ESPN has noted the spark the bench has given us.

 

Alright.  Now that I've broken down the entire roster and given you more of my thoughts than you probably ever cared to hear (if you actually made it all the way through that, I give you major kudos), it's time to hear what you think.  I'm optimistic for the Suns' future, and I think that this offseason could keep us at a championship caliber, if we make the right moves.

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I think thats exactly it.

If we make the right moves (who knows what those really are) we stay at a contending level. Trying to figure out what moves to make to be the best we can be is about as hard as walking barefoot to the moon.

TO THE NBA - " Yeah, you have created a rift within me ; Now there have been ; several complications ; that have left me feeling nothing ; I might say, you were ; wrong to take it from me ; Left me feeling nothing " - Disturbed, "Numb"

by antiw0rm on Apr 1, 2009 4:19 PM MDT reply actions  

i wouldn’t be surprise to see Amare traded to Chicago for Hinrich/Thomas + picks

Sarver could kill two birds by getting a decent PG, PF(both of which play defense) and picks while not having to pick up Nash’s option and get under the lux tax

I think that is fairly possible, however, its not preferable

by bradley281 on Apr 1, 2009 5:41 PM MDT reply actions  

Other teams that may provide optimism or pessimism

For some optimism. Teams that were good, had a brief downfall, but are now relevant again:

Lakers
Jazz
Sixers
Nuggets
Heat
Blazers
Magic

Here’s for the pessimistic. Teams that were good, and have yet to recover:

Kings
Timberwolves
Pacers
Nets
Raptors
Wizards

So, if we gut the team and start from scratch, expect us to fall into the bottom list. But, if we can just make a few changes, get a little younger, but not completely revamp, we might be able to recover in a few years

by Funky Flapsack on Apr 1, 2009 5:52 PM MDT reply actions  

sac, min, ind, njn

all have good younggins.
the Craps and Wiz were just hurt all year.

Nuggets also got a great break when they get chauncey

by CCArvin on Apr 1, 2009 11:03 PM MDT up reply actions  

I agree with Funky....

completely gutting a team has never really worked except for a few teams in the past. And i do like bradley281’s Hinrich/Thomas/ Picks for amare. I know a lot of people in here are divided on amare with regards to his court value/ skills/ work ethic/ defenses. But i think his eye injury makes it the most compelling argument that he be traded. We’ve all seen the write ups regarding how serious the injury is and that wearing of goggles is not exactly an insurance against recurrence of the injury. Of course the other teams we want to trade with probably also realize this and lower his trade value…

by toto_l2003 on Apr 1, 2009 8:44 PM MDT reply actions  

i agree

on your post.
i truly believe that we should keep almost all the players, get a good rookie (Lawson or some center maybe?) and keep Gentry and we’ll be all good next year.

by CCArvin on Apr 1, 2009 11:05 PM MDT reply actions  

One other thing that Amare has to worry about is that microftracture surgery. I saw a stat that anyone thats had that surgery usually goes back under the knife within 5 years. Although he is less than 26 years old so its a mystery. You have to get talent back and/or high draft picks to part with a player that young and talented.

I have to disagree on Shaq, his stock will never be higher and now is the time to move him. Using his 20 million to sign other players that actually fit into the run and gun style would be better suited like a David Lee who can rebound and actually defend the pick and roll.

I agree on Richardson, this guy has crazy athleticism but does some boneheaded things such as lazy inbound passes, blowing defensive assisgnments (Roger Mason ring a bell), and getting swatted by LeBron trying to do a 360, and his off the court run ins with the law. IF THEY ONLY LANDED GERALD WALLACE INSTEAD.

Dudley has no athleticism and looks like a deer in head lights out there, I need to see more.

Dragic is another one who just does dumb things on the court and can you afford that at the point.

by Lefty3 on Apr 2, 2009 6:02 AM MDT reply actions  

Nash to Toronto?

It seems like there is now a growing openness to trading Nash.
What about offering him to Toronto for Jose Calderon and Andrea Bargnani? Calderon is a solid passer and outside shooter and Bargnani would seriously strengthen the bench and help spread the floor. I think both players could fit in well with our system.
I would like to think Toronto (and Bryan Colangelo) would be interested in the deal. Nash would bring a huge financial boost to the Raptors in ticket sales and marketing (and is obviously still one of the better PG’s in the game).

As for Shaq, I think it makes sense to hold on to him until the trade deadline. If Kwame Brown’s expiring contract can land Pau Gasol and Chris Wilcox/Joe Smith can get Tyson Chandler, I would hope the Suns would be able to land some serious talent in exchange for The Big Contract. And if there are no takers you just let Shaq’s deal expire and use that cash to go after some free agents in the off season.

I think if Kerr and Sarver play this right we should be able to re-tool and compete again for a trip to the Finals.

by AZ2DC on Apr 2, 2009 5:59 PM MDT reply actions  

yep

although i doubt Toronto would give us back Bargnani. Maybe we trade Nash and our pick for Calderon and their pick.

Dead on about Shaq

by Funky Flapsack on Apr 3, 2009 1:49 PM MDT up reply actions  

hmmmm...

I would like to think we could get more for our two time MVP (optimistic, I know).
Plus, Toronto would need to add around another $5M to make the contracts balance out.

by AZ2DC on Apr 3, 2009 6:01 PM MDT reply actions  

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