Kerr looks to keep Nash. Shaq and Amare?

any chance you can have the audio transcribed as a matter of SOP everytime? i’ve got poor internet connection.. and i’m missing a lot…

perhaps we can get Tucker to do it.. since he ain’t really doin much on the bench during games… lol

How many PGs need to lie on the ground to rest during games?

How many forwards can score, rebound and block like Amare?

And how many talents do we have that people are actually interested in getting?

We could get a high draft pick and Lee while letting Barbarossa run the point as he can still become better offensively and defensively.

The win over the Lakers without Nash is the most feasible Gentry blueprint.

Improving Lou and Lopez is not going to help us address our perimeter defence needs or guards are going to have career nights against us day in and day out.

You can call out Amare every single time he does not play enough defense but Nash gets a free pass half the time. And you expect the team to play defense with that bright example?

My point is – Nash is not going to last forever, He lies down almost all the time because of his back condition. Are you asking him to keep carrying the Suns forever? Or for how long?

I never said Barbarossa is a better player but he could run the point without Nash as could be seen in the few games they played without Nash. The win over the Lakers with LB at the point is by far the best and most meaningful win in this season.

If you don’t know what that victory means, then you are still trapped in the past with Nash leading the Suns to victory with 7SOL. I hope that you dun forget that only 3 members of the 7SOL team are around and we traded the defensive players, key role players and the coach who made all that possible.

Nash as a prototypical Sun? Hmm, you may want to talk to Barkley about that…

Knicks are in desperate straits becos of their lack of an all star PG with Duhon breaking down and D Antoni’s loves Nash and they are playing Nash game in New York. The Knicks are lottery bound for 1-2 more years and they may get high picks. Lee and Robinson are hardly untouchable where the management is concerned as they want cap space.

To be frank, I don’t know that much as compared to fans who write off the Suns from the play-offs when they were leading in the West because they are all so all knowing and cheering kerr’s moves and defending them to the bitter end. They must really know something that rest of the NBA league don’t know…

I only know that Suns fans can never underestimate our own team after doubting them and seeing them playing well and deep into the play-offs after they lost Amare to microsurgery a few years back.

Nash is 7SOL personified. And that’s the past.

If we want to play defense in a league that has got used to up-tempo, the Suns must rise in another direction and keep their faith in it.

Come on people, Please tell me how the suns can better by trading Steve Nash. They say he will be the first person in NBA history to record over 50%FG, 40%3P 90% in 3 seasons, and he will do that this year. He IS still a top 5 point guard in league any way you slice it, so unless they can get another top 5 point guard in return, the suns would be that much worst without him

I find it ridiculous that people keep saying he is declining. Why, because his stats are “slightly” down from the last 3 years? well he was stuck in Porter’ dump-a-shaq strategy for 2/3 of a season. He still HANDS DOWN one of the best passers and shooters in the game. I guarantee if Gentry was the coach for the full season, and he decided to take as many shots per game as Chris Paul, his stats would just as high as CP’s.

Sure he is not a great defender, but is that a big deal? Most point guards in the league are smaller and therefore not great defenders. steve nash blows by tony parker, just as much as tony parker blows by nash. The screen and roll is just about impossible to defend if you have the right point guard and finishers. Its like gentry says, whatever they do they are not going to be the spurs, the cavs or the celts. Cavs have the best defense, but the suns have the best offense. The suns just need to play average D to win, they don’t need to slow down all the time and play lockdown amazing on D just to win. They never will anyway with their current personnel.

I think what Kerr was saying is legit
“One of the things you have to do in this league is you have to have active big guys. There’s a reason Boston was so good defensively…Those guys jump out on pick and rolls, they trap, they recover and protect the rim. That’s why we drafted Robin and that’s why we signed Lou. We’re trying to get more mobile on the interior. We have to develop those guys and we have to continue to address the personnel issues”

The fact remains we have two of the softest, selfish laziest big men in the game on the defensive end. We get no weak side, or interior defense help EVER. Shaq is so slow on D, and and stands around most of the time thinking about how many “shaq-touches” he gets. And watching Amare get rolled over by just about any 1st string or second string PF in the league is cringe worthy.

I think we need to try to trade shaq for a more mobile defensive minded presence.
Amare can play D, but wont. Thats another huge problem and needs to be addressed.

But the truth of the matter is, he is not the one to be blamed for the disappointing season.

I see a lot of post saying that “shaq is not needed”, “dump Shaq to whomever will take him”, etc.

But let us take a look at the Suns record for a moment…45 wins. It’s really not that bad. If the Suns are in the East they will be in the 5th playoff spot. Of course, that is neither here nor there. The Suns are in the West, and they belong in the 9th spot. However, they will miss the playoff by only a few games behind the numbers 5-8 teams in the West. They could have been in the thick of things if they had won some key games which they should not have lost (considering that they beat the Lakers without Nash and Amare). If you look at the games where the Suns had a winning streak without Nash, Shaq dominated with more touches. Then Nash came back, Shaq fewer touches, all of a sudden 5 game losing streak (all the while Nash is attempting way more shots than his assists).

Nash averaged more than 9 assists a game the whole season, which is not bad (third among point guards), but in those games where the Suns lost, his assists were severely lacking in relation to his shot attempts. So, overall Nash had a decent assist output, but when it mattered most he chose to shoot.

Even after Shaq’s phenomenal season he is being made the scapegoat. Which is unfair. He leads the Suns in scoring,rebounds,blocks and field goal percentage. He is 3rd in the whole NBA in the center position in scoring. He leads the whole NBA in field goal percentage. He has better stats than Kevin Garnet. The only argument about Shaq is his age and his speed (or lack of it). Shaq is 37 years old, but he put up better numbers than most 25 year olds in the NBA. You want your center next season to be Lopez? Youth over experience and talent? Give me a freakin’ break!

Here are your scapegoats:
-Matt Barnes have been given a lot of responsibility on offense, but he failed miserably.
-J-Rich proved to be less productive than Diaw overall. Oh he can score, but like Kobe, he has to take lots of shots to do it.
-Steve Nash is a defensive liability.
-The Suns bench is crap. Very little production from Lopez,Amundson,Dragic, you know, your “younger” players.
-The Suns changed strategy mid-season, changed coaches, which is never a good thing. They would have done better if Gentry was selected as D’Antoni’s replacement from the start.
-Most of the Suns were so in-love with D’Antoni’s ways that they did not give Porter a chance, and in the process rebelled against him.
-Amare is so in-love with Amare.

My issue with Nash is that he is 35 and has back problems.

He also doesn’t play defense, which as the floor general, sets a bad example for the rest of the team

But my most important concern is that Nash deserves to play on a championship bound team.

He is wasted on a rebuilding team like our Suns.