Shaq finally gone?

Hmmmm

Not sure I like this and frankly what Shaq was saying at the ASG break to Paul doesn’t really seem relevant. The key point in this article is:

What we don’t have to date is any firm indication that the teams have even discussed Shaq scenarios.

Which puts this in the speculation category.

Now, having said that the concept of replacing Shaq with Chandler isn’t bad. I am not thrilled mostly due to health concerns but it does make some sense and frankly what are the chances that Shaq comes back and has another year like he did this year? About the same as Chandler coming here and being healthy. A toss up either way.

It does save about $4m next season and TC isn’t signed for too long so that’s not bad.

Like UASun said, Wright being part of the deal would make it much better. We certainly don’t want to take back two more SG’s in Butler and Brown. That’s the one position we already have a log jam unless you really think you can dump JRich on someone and basically are prepared to get very little in return.

Amare, TC, Hill, Nash, LB or Butler with Lopez, Dragic, Dudley, Lou, Wright and one or two picks isn’t bad. Not great but not bad.

Amare and TC together is a fit and TC w/ Nash in the pick and roll is a nice option. TC is also much more of the type of center Lopez can be. Very similar games which is nice. If anything, Lopez might have better post moves in a year or two.

In the end though any deal that we do that saves us money only adds money to the Hornets who are trying to get under the lux tax as well. It would take a 3rd team w/ cap space to make something work. Who might want Antonio Daniels for example at $6m? The Hawks?

Once again, the more you get into these things the more complicated they are. I don’t see this happening. That’s my $.02

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by Phoenix Stan on Apr 24, 2009 6:10 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

I've been thinking about the extra $$$

Why not the T-Wolves?
We’ve mentioned them here before
Daniels and Richardson, and our #1 goes to the Wolves, Madsen goes to the Hornets (for additional cap space) and we get their pick (#5, hopefully) in return. Obviously, if the wolves pick in the top 3 this deal doesn’t work.
Here’s why it would – all three of these owners/gms (Shinn, Sarver/Kerr, Taylor/McHale) have fairly quick to pull the trigger on deals. McHale has been known to pull the trigger on BAD deals. Shinn is losing money hand over fist.
Even if we take minnesota out of this, Shinn and Sarver would be two of the quickest owners right now in the NBA to sign off on a trade.
I’m 90% sure neither player (TC or Shaq) will be with the same team at the All-Start break that they started with. Might as well be for each other.

by UASun on Apr 24, 2009 6:24 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

I don't think that works

NOH would be adding $6m when they are trying to cut and they give up their only backup PG
Minnie would be taking on $16m and giving up a high pick
Suns are the only team that makes out in this…too one sided

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by Phoenix Stan on Apr 24, 2009 7:47 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

wouldn't a trade work at the deadline?

Because the Hornets would only be responsible for part of Shaq’s remaining contract and it would come off the books at the end of the year

by Funky Flapsack on Apr 24, 2009 9:36 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

One sided indeed

But so was the Gasol trade. It is one sided, just not entirely, totally, completely, ridiculously impossible. And that pathetic glimmer of hope is all I need

by UASun on Apr 25, 2009 1:16 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

gasol trade wasn't too one sided.

memphis now has a bunch of cap space to work with, and if gasol wasn’t in their long term plans, it works out awesome for them. they now have the freedom to keep building the way that they see fit, minus one (expensive) piece.

by iamtrevorpaxton on Apr 26, 2009 12:34 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Memphis having cap space is like a dog chasing a car..

once you get it, what are you going to do with it ??

It’s not like Memphis has Jerry West anymore.

"True glory consists of doing what deserves to be written, and writing what deserves to be read".

by Pliny the Elder on Apr 26, 2009 8:45 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sounds Like

You’re underestimating the power of cap space.

Wear your own fur.

by Sprankton on Apr 28, 2009 5:07 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

No.... I'm suggesting that the Memphis org is clueless..

that they wouldn’t know how to use the cao soace..

"True glory consists of doing what deserves to be written, and writing what deserves to be read".

by Pliny the Elder on Apr 28, 2009 11:06 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

They can use it to help us in a dump

I mean, they do have a penchant for making pointless, one-sided trades that don’t involve them receiving much particular benefit in return.

by felixthm on Apr 28, 2009 11:41 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

One can only hope.

"True glory consists of doing what deserves to be written, and writing what deserves to be read".

by Pliny the Elder on Apr 28, 2009 11:56 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Would Minnie really want Richardson while they have Miller?

If the Wolves can find a competent PG Miller’s numbers will go back to where they were and they’ll basically have no need for Richardson. I can’t see any way that Richardson goes to the Wolves while they still have Miller, they’d be paying $20 mil+ for a couple scoring two-guards.

by hcblankscreen on Apr 24, 2009 8:11 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

ill take

shaq and tucker for chandler, butler and daniels

by CCArvin on Apr 24, 2009 9:45 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

I'd do that trade every day of the week and twice on Sundays

Which is why it makes no sense for the Hornets.

Mmmmm ... Guinness

by JSun on Apr 25, 2009 9:53 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Sure it does.

1.Shaq returning home
2.Shaq’s marketability
3.Shaq just put up a remarkable season
4.Chandler’s injured
5.Shaq is an expiring

IF Shaq does not slim down and become the active guy we want him to be, and IF Chandler is healthy, then let’s do it.

Imagine Nash, Amare and Tyson running the pnr….http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gtk6Tl10fLo&feature=related

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Apr 25, 2009 10:01 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Shaq sells tickets

I’m sure NO would consider it with Shaq’s ability to fill the seats.

by bradley281 on Apr 25, 2009 11:21 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

+1

Shaq is costly up front but he brings lots of $ making opportunities down the line

by IrrationalAgent on Apr 25, 2009 4:18 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

- 1,000,000

Just because I’ve decided I’m against numerical values

Mmmmm ... Guinness

by JSun on Apr 26, 2009 2:15 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

+e

just ’cos I want to be irrational…

(rotfl… math joke…)

"True glory consists of doing what deserves to be written, and writing what deserves to be read".

by Pliny the Elder on Apr 26, 2009 3:23 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

+ (1/0)

by dCoye on Apr 26, 2009 7:52 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

+1/10 of an 1/8

Aprende epsañol y esto tendra mas sentido para ti.

by Diosnomeama on Apr 26, 2009 7:57 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

x 0

= 0

by brian13 on Apr 26, 2009 12:41 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't see him

filling $4m to $6m worth of seats…
besides, what do we do w/ another SG…or two. We certainly don’t want Daniels at $6m. That’s a horrible contract.

Guys, I really think you are going to end up seeing Amare, Nash and Shaq back to start the season.

Blogging Suns Basketball

by Phoenix Stan on Apr 25, 2009 4:18 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Daniels is expiring, no?

Don’t see how that’s “horrible”. And even though he’s old, he’s still a good PG defender.

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Apr 25, 2009 6:37 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Daniels...

has lost it, IMO. He was decent in his Seattle days and ok during his Washington days. Now he’s a part of the NO bench that is nonexistent. I particular remember him being eaten alive by Jared Bayless the last time they played Portland.

As PhxStan has said, Chandler is really a rich man’s Fropez. And from all I’ve heard, he doesn’t work too hard and folds in adversity.

With the 14th pick of the 2009 NBA draft, the Pheonix Suns select... 3 million dollars!

by gadogry on Apr 25, 2009 7:03 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

and maybe that's for the best

Jsun pointed out his his last post that Sarver wouldn’t be able to stomach a 20-win team. Well if he doesnt get value back for Amare or Shaq, then maybe he does stick with this core. Shaq comes off the books after this year anyways.

And maybe, just maybe, missing the playoffs lights a fire under the Suns’ asses. Maybe next year they come out with a purpose in every game. Maybe they start focusing on D. Maybe a full year ubder Gentry will bring some consistancy. Maybe the bench does get way better. Maybe we contend with this group next year.

by Funky Flapsack on Apr 25, 2009 7:34 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

mostly agree.

i think missing the playoffs will light a fire under the suns’ asses. i also agree with a few of your points.

i think a full year under gentry will bring back the winning ways. if he’s the coach for the whole season, there’s a very little chance that we miss the playoffs. given a summer league and a chance to really work with a coach that the players like, i think the bench will get better, particularly the rookies.

however, i don’t agree with a couple. i don’t think they’ll come out with a purpose in every game. that’s tough for any NBA team to do, and especially the suns. i’ve been following this group for years, and never have i seen an entire season where they were focused every time they stepped on the floor. i also don’t see them focusing on D. that’s just a given, though. if that happens, and gentry tries to make that happen, might as well just say goodbye to alvin.

here’s a few points of my own:

1. amaré will be wanting to get back into the action after missing the last part of the season and possibly helping us get to the playoffs.
2. assuming he stays, shaq will want to have another great year, as i know he’ll want to have high value once he hits the free agent market.
3. nash will continue to be an elite point guard so long as we’re in the run and gun style. i don’t foresee health issues coming from him, unless it’s a turned ankle or something minor (knocking on wood).

now some down points:

1. the suns missed the playoffs last year largely due to lack of a good direction, lack of focus, and an excess of egos. the drama came on in full force last year (as it has in so many years past), so who’s to say it won’t happen again next year, especially if we keep the same group around?
2. the suns lack a high draft pick, and with a (semi) weak draft coming up, we’re not bound to really get fresh legs with high talent. we’ll get fresh legs, but i doubt our 14 or 16 pick really gets much burn, especially if we are trying to push for the playoffs after missing one year. which doesn’t bode well for the rookie. no playing time = no development = another waste of a draft pick.
3. who knows how amaré will be after his eye surgery? it’s pretty uncertain he will ever be the same player. if he can come back (with goggles) and put up more performances like that of the november pacers’ game, awesome. if he comes back and seems worried that it’ll happen again, might as well prepare for another season of unfulfilled hopes.

by iamtrevorpaxton on Apr 26, 2009 12:47 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's what I said

Mmmmm ... Guinness

by JSun on Apr 26, 2009 2:14 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

And if my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle..

We will see a better effort, simply because the front office will stand behind Alvin G, because we’ll have a preseason together, and because these guys have something to prove after the gross underachievement of this past season.

Still, neither Nash nor JRich are going to suddenly develop into monster man-defenders, Shaq will still have trouble with both ends of the pick and roll, and Amare will continue to be the A.D.D poster boy.

"True glory consists of doing what deserves to be written, and writing what deserves to be read".

by Pliny the Elder on Apr 25, 2009 8:35 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

That's a really good one!

It’s offensive enough and perfectly fitting in describing Amare. Props to you, bro.

by felixthm on Apr 26, 2009 11:11 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Shaq > Chandler

If the Suns trade Shaq for Chandler, they would be making a huge mistake.

While Chandler is known as a good rebounder and shot blocker, he is barely better, if at all, than Shaq at these two. On average, this year, Chandler is averaging 8.7 rebounds and 1.2 blocks per game. Shaq, on the other hand, is averaging 8.4 rebounds, and 1.4 blocks. Shaq actually blocks MORE shots than Chandler, but does rebound .3 less per game. But, to qualify this, Shaq did have Amare for a good chunk of the season, and he did average 8.1 rebounds per game.

While its true that Shaq doesn’t mesh with Amare offensively, I don’t consider this an unsolveable problem. Amare has made himself into a deadly jump shooter, and while Shaq can only be effective in the low post, its not impossible to coordinate an offense around those two offensively strong guys. The real worry is on defense, where neither has really shown any intention of playing it. But, hopefully through trades or the draft, this can be cleared up.

Although I do agree, that if Amare is indeed the future of the franchise, Shaq needs to go, I don’t think that Chandler is the answer. Although billed as both a shot blocker and a rebounder, Shaq is, if not better, as good as him at those.

by darkdude on Apr 25, 2009 9:22 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Those barely even qualify as stats

You can’t seriously make an argument Shaq is a better defender based on year’s worth of two stats.
Chandler, when healthy, has average 2 blocks a game. Additionally, TC has averaged twice as many Offensive boards as Shaq, which the suns could use major help in.
Additionally, a team with Chandler manning the paint has averaged 6 less points in the paint for the past 4 years. Now, I grant you that this stat is contigent on more than just the one player, but I figured if you get to twist stats to prove your point, I get to too =).
Lastly, I just watched the Nuggets Hornets playoff game where a only semi-healthy Chandler was able to shut down the Nuggets pick and roll for several minutes at a time due to his length and tenacity. I don’t think the argument is whether or not Chandler is better than Shaq, but whether or not a trade is feasible

by UASun on Apr 26, 2009 1:30 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

I would agree with that

a healthy Chandler at his age and contract is a better long term option for the Suns then Shaq…that said, he’s not “better enough” to take on other bad contracts to make it happen.

Chandler, while good is the type of guy you can potentially find in the draft or hanging out on a rookie contract somwhere like a Ryan Hollins. The Suns can afford to have two or three low cost, inconsistent guys at center if they are basically can cover up for Amare, Nash and JRich…if the Suns decide to keep Amare.

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by Phoenix Stan on Apr 26, 2009 10:23 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

The NBA is as much about developing your players as it is about luck in finding/drafting them

In the ‘03 draft, the “Fab Four” didn’t actually include Wade, and look how he’s turned out. Brandon Roy was picked behind busts like Morrison and Shelden Williams. Some players can be random bench-warmers on one team and break into superstardom under a different environment. As much as I’d like to credit systems, people management, and other aspects of player development controlled by the organisation, I still feel that luck is a crucial factor that we just haven’t seem to have had.

If Fropez becomes a tenacious, mobile, athletic big man with gritty and solid defense, and even better if he’s giving us decent offensive production, this will turn out to be a great pick. Or he could be a bust, without the smarts, attitude, or desire to make it in this league. And he’d go down as just one of another of “Kerr’s/Sun’s front office’s” mistakes. Right now, whatever we say or speculate doesn’t have any impact on the events that will simply run their course. With the benefit of hindsight wisdom(probably a couple seasons later), we’d be able to either declare with gusto our enthusiasm and faith in him right from the start, or how we knew all along he’d be a bust/just didn’t have it in him.

Just be patient, guys.

by felixthm on Apr 26, 2009 11:21 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Fropez's floor is as a 7ft Brevin Knight..

a decent, intelligent, team oriented player. He played at Stanford, where they won’t let you in unless you’re smart. Bear in mind, our kind of team is probably one of the worst situations in which to develop talent.. i.e. A contending team, full of vets, and the organization isn’t focused on mentoring/developing players. Look what the Pistons did (or didn’t do) to Darko. Poor bastard never had a real shot, there.

I’d just point out both Dennis Rodman and Manu Ginobili, were both 2nd round picks. Greatness can come from anywhere.

"True glory consists of doing what deserves to be written, and writing what deserves to be read".

by Pliny the Elder on Apr 26, 2009 12:04 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, Larry Brown crushed Darko's spirit damn quick.

Don’t forget, Stanford also produced Jason/Jarron Collins, the two most undeserving millionaires I’ve ever seen.

Aprende epsañol y esto tendra mas sentido para ti.

by Diosnomeama on Apr 26, 2009 12:55 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

but they were smart enough to get the money...

Jason made $6.6M this year… Signing Boris for $9M/year doesn’t look too bad in comparison..

The Larry Brown point you made kind of reinforces my point, but Flip Saunders didn’t do any better.

The Pistons screwed up badly with Darko. They could have had a player (and he shows flashes every now and again.), but instead they created a chump.

Amare is only slightly different because he relied on his athleticism for his game. Now that he’s getting older and suffering injuries, he’s having to rely more on guile and experience. It’s mostly but not entirely his fault, btw. The Suns never really helped him with the mental aspects of the game, and so we’re beginning to see that the ceiling to his game is much lower than we expected or hoped. Amare needs to spend a summer with Karl Malone, and learn to grow up.

"True glory consists of doing what deserves to be written, and writing what deserves to be read".

by Pliny the Elder on Apr 26, 2009 1:18 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I was agreeing with you on the Darko point.

Maybe my English is getting worse in my old age.

Aprende epsañol y esto tendra mas sentido para ti.

by Diosnomeama on Apr 26, 2009 2:11 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

very well put

Amare was just raw talent. You can see his IQ growing over the years. His knee injurey forced him to work on his shooting. What could come from the eye? I have no idea. Only time will tell. But you’re absolutely right; Amare should spend time with Karl Malone or another big time vet. I wish Sir Charles worked with the team. We could use the Round Mound of Rebound to teach some people a few things.

by KnowGood on Apr 26, 2009 2:50 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nah.. Charles was another guy who wasted his talent..

and spent way too much time getting wasted and throwing midgets through glass windows.

"True glory consists of doing what deserves to be written, and writing what deserves to be read".

by Pliny the Elder on Apr 26, 2009 4:34 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

i think of sir charles and shaq on the same page.

while there were few people who worked as hard as barkley on the court, he relied on his raw talent and potential throughout his whole career. shaq is the same way. how can you be in the league for 15 years and still have a horrific FT%? if he were to take a summer and shoot 1,000 free throws every day (maybe even 750 or 500), i’m sure we’d see his percentage shoot up. there are just some players that i don’t really respect because of that. shaq is dominant, and probably always will be, but i would like to see a little more effort coming from his end of things.

amaré, on the other hand, has actually worked at his game. he had the knee surgery, so what did he do? he developed a solid outside shot. you can see him making better passes. his free throw percentage is one of the better on the team. when he started, he was a gerald green-esque player, who specialized in dunks and had this sort of aura of potential about him. now he’s a bona fide player, who, if he could only get over his own ego/mental issues, could be a legend.

by iamtrevorpaxton on Apr 26, 2009 6:46 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Karl would eat Amare alive

those two guys couldn’t be further apart…Karl was an old school hard nose rural hick who liked to work hard and destroy people. Amare is all about his own hype and glam…

Perhaps if Amare had played w/ a guy like Karl when he was 19…

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by Phoenix Stan on Apr 26, 2009 3:03 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

You're right..

you can’t teach drive or true meanness.

"True glory consists of doing what deserves to be written, and writing what deserves to be read".

by Pliny the Elder on Apr 26, 2009 4:06 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I thought getting routed/humiliated/having your ass whooped

Was supposed to do that for you.

I wonder if Amare would listen/be receptive to Karl. This is really an “if-all-else fails” situation for us, what’ve we got left to lose anyway.

by felixthm on Apr 26, 2009 9:06 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Karl Malone is the difference between

metaphorically having your ass beaten, and actually having your ass whooped, like a red-headed stepchild.

Amare can never get it, because he doesn’t have any humility. I’d have thought the year he missed, and the fact we played better without him, would have opened his eyes. But you can’t be humiliated if you think the universe revolves around you.. Someone needs to get Amare a high-school physics book, and get him to read the chapter on Copernicus.

"True glory consists of doing what deserves to be written, and writing what deserves to be read".

by Pliny the Elder on Apr 26, 2009 9:13 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hmm....Valid point about the humility

But I’m not entirely swayed yet. Shouldn’t the fact that scrubs like Jarron Collins are abusing and dunking on Amare(yes I have seen this happen all too many times) be humbling enough? Amare is routinely getting pulverised by players who’re otherwise non-factors. It’s not so much that he plays down to the competition, because he simply doesn’t compete. He’ll have a highlight block here and there then ball-watch a insert-team here layup line for the next 10 minutes on the floor.

Maybe in the year we played without him, he’d think that he’d have been the factor that pushed us over the top, and that would most probably be true in terms of the offensive threat. But getting abused by scrubs is not something that’s going to make me feel good about myself. I’d be exceedingly humbled if I was in his shoes and letting just about any NBA-bust/on-the-way-out-of-the-league guy waltz in and dunk on my rim repeatedly.

by felixthm on Apr 26, 2009 9:23 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hey how do I stop the words from being bolded?

It seems that I can’t use the * or " signs without the bracketed words being highlighted in bold font.

by felixthm on Apr 26, 2009 9:24 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Fortune favors the bold

"True glory consists of doing what deserves to be written, and writing what deserves to be read".

by Pliny the Elder on Apr 27, 2009 1:21 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

let's think back

2005 Western Conferance Finals. Amare averaged 37 points against the defense of the Spurs. His rebounding in those playoffs was better than a 10 average. Even though the Suns were easily disposed of in 5 games (mostly due to the Joe Johnson injury) i do remember in the one game that they won, there was an Amare block on Tim Duncan that sealed their victory. So Amare has shown he can have the defense needed to win big games

by Funky Flapsack on Apr 27, 2009 12:47 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Even the Sun Shines on a Dog's Ass Some Days

One blocked shot in one game doesn’t mean you know how to play defense..

I mean, Steve Nash made the single best defensive play I ever saw when he was in Dallas (it was Dallas vs Phoenix, might have been in 02-03, Marbury penetrating in the lane, at full speed, Steve staying with him from the 3 pt line all the way to the rim, forcing Stephon into a fade-away, and then blocking the shot). But I would never mistake Steve for, say, Scottie Pippen.

The thing is that Amare is no better now than the player he was in that season. Think about that. Even if you take the injuries into account, there’s been no significant overall improvement from the man in 5 years. Sure, he can shoot a little from around 18ft, but he almost never uses it. He takes more shots from the post, than from the rest of the floor combined. We already have Shaq to do that.

"True glory consists of doing what deserves to be written, and writing what deserves to be read".

by Pliny the Elder on Apr 27, 2009 1:19 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

lolwut?

You’re basing your assessment of his defense off of ONE blocked shot?

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Apr 28, 2009 1:28 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

yep

he actually tried, and won us that game with his D

by Funky Flapsack on Apr 29, 2009 3:34 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

word

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Apr 26, 2009 8:27 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Unhealthy Tyson Chandler is playing like crap in the NOOH series.

Is trading Shaq for him really the right idea?

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Apr 28, 2009 1:28 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Chandler's health

Phoenix is known for its healing powers: Nash, Grant Hill, Shaq, all came to Phoenix under the cloud of “injury prone” only to re-emerge, Phoenix like, under the care of Aaron Nelson. Let’s send Shaq to NO, who no doubt will be looking for an answer to the embarassment of the Nuggets spanking. His health will decline back to Miami levels, and Chandler (TC is reserved for a different Sun in my mind) will suddenly be more healthy than ever.

by tptman on Apr 28, 2009 5:05 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

i feel like we're placing one helluva lot of faith on aaron nelson.

don’t get me wrong. the guy has magic hands. the suns have one of the best medical staffs in the NBA (or professional sports world, even). i just don’t want to say, “oh, chandler will be healthy once he comes here, there’s no worrying about that.” because there still is.

if the trade happens (which i kind of doubt it will), it’s good to trust out medical staff, but i wouldn’t be absolutely banking on it. if he’s not healthy enough to produce on a basketball court by the time the trade happens, i wouldn’t sign him. it’s not smart to take on a player as a project, only to have it fail and have a half-injured center for an entire season.

by iamtrevorpaxton on Apr 30, 2009 12:34 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Lol. It's true

If Shaq goes to New Orleans he might very well play for 40 games at best. This is the valley of life. The land of re-birth. Players will rise like a Phoenix arising from the ashes and blablabla. I recalled there was a member with the nickname “don’t trade Aaron Nelson”. Aaron Nelson is our real MVP.

by felixthm on Apr 29, 2009 2:20 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

He's only

under contract for next season and supposedly is really close friends w/ D’Antoni. Of course, I also heard he has deep family roots here, kids in school etc. so…

It’s worth keeping an eye on for sure

Blogging Suns Basketball

by Phoenix Stan on Apr 29, 2009 8:43 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs