Open Gameday Thread - Suns vs Mavs
by Seth Pollack on Apr 5, 2009 12:30 PM MDT
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PrintPhoenix Suns at Dallas Mavericks, Apr 5, 2009 1:30 PM MDT
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Game info: 3:30 pm EDT Sun Apr 5, 2009
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Random thought:
I’m half listening to the Cavs-Spurs game, and there was a commercial for something called Flomax, which apparently helps guys pee more, or less, I’m note sure. One of the side effects was decrease in semen. Do you think that’s a worthwhile trade off?
"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee."
Drew Gooden.
Nah... definetely not worth it...
My body might be in Greece, but my mind and my heart is in Arizona. When the heck will I visit the Desert?
link
any link to the game transimiot on net?
My body might be in Greece, but my mind and my heart is in Arizona. When the heck will I visit the Desert?
Anyone reading should go ahead and bookmark that site.
They usually have every game linked to on there.
The color of fail.
"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee."
Drew Gooden.
damn
atdhe not working for me this time
Once upon a time the Suns got out on the break... and along came Steve sucKerr
espn360?
"Statistics mean nothing to the individual"
"You are what you eat and you clearly went out and devoured a big fat guy"
It is for me!
3 links!!! lol, two of them are working
My body might be in Greece, but my mind and my heart is in Arizona. When the heck will I visit the Desert?
actually...
all 3 of them work now
My body might be in Greece, but my mind and my heart is in Arizona. When the heck will I visit the Desert?
The man's name is Don Knobler...
He’s a real estate mogul who is also a die-hard Mavs fan. And yes he does wear ridiculous clothes to every game.
by Hater From Dallas on Apr 5, 2009 5:44 PM MDT up reply actions
Van Gundy+Jackson=worst commentating duo ever.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
He sucks.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
lol@Shaq
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Damn!
Look at Grant!
"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee."
Drew Gooden.
J-Rich SUCKS
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
+1
Keep saying that for the whole night and I’ll be a happy man :p
My body might be in Greece, but my mind and my heart is in Arizona. When the heck will I visit the Desert?
5000 moron points for Kerr
Remember when he tried to sell the whole “He’s an elite defender” crap?
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Lol, yes, it seems really hilarious now
I miss the Bell of the past… We did the right thing trading Bell this year as he had lost a step and was unhappy, but for the wrong player…
My body might be in Greece, but my mind and my heart is in Arizona. When the heck will I visit the Desert?
The first time he really sucked
was leaving Mason open for that 3 on Christmas. Just about made me cry.
It's not only that
What he brings is just not what we need
My body might be in Greece, but my mind and my heart is in Arizona. When the heck will I visit the Desert?
Yeah, leave Dirk open for 3.
Great defense there.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Even if every of those players was 5 years younger...
They still wouldn’t be able to play defense…
My body might be in Greece, but my mind and my heart is in Arizona. When the heck will I visit the Desert?
We need to man up and play some freakin D on Kidd when he posts up...
There is no way we should have to double him and leave wide open 3pt shooters.
I hate to say it because I think the Mavericks suck
but they are better than us. I mean, 36 points with 2 1/2 minutes to go in the first quarter in this game?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?
Every team looks better offensively playing against us
No matter how much they suck
My body might be in Greece, but my mind and my heart is in Arizona. When the heck will I visit the Desert?
frack this
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
where is the defensive effort?
am i asking for too much???
Good switch to the zone by Gentry.
But there is no way that Terry should have been wide open for three 3’s in the same exact spot.
I thought we'd come out better than this
We’ve been much more competitive lately, and against better teams than the mavs
LB is hitting the lights out
will this broadcasting team stop talking about the Tweeter????
Nice effort there
Good job 2nd unit…
My body might be in Greece, but my mind and my heart is in Arizona. When the heck will I visit the Desert?
down by 8
again….
I don’t see this team winning today…i just don’t…
WTF
Why does richardson never hustle back on transition D?? He just jogs back and lets the other team have an easy layup.
Fun game
For fans who aren’t from Dallas or Phoenix. Don’t really know who to root for; on one hand, Phoenix is more fun to watch and my prefered team of the two, on the other hand, if they do get the eighth seed you know that ESPN will have a field day with Shaq v Kobe and the thought of that makes me wanna hurl.
did richardson miss FT again?
can this guy shoot???
Because Nash can't handle being posted up
apparently.
Good thing Gentry took JRich out. The guy is such a liability than an asset
We’re getting the looks but not knocking them down. This game is such a let down.
Gentry should start the second half with the bench. We were within 1 before Nash and Co came in.
and poooooooooooooooof
there goes everything
Once upon a time the Suns got out on the break... and along came Steve sucKerr
um…we lost that game. and we may come back, but we NEVER win these games. we come back just enough to make it look like we care. when in reality, they don’t care one bit.
by ArizonaCactus on Apr 5, 2009 2:34 PM MDT up reply actions
Oh my...
I really hope these guys feel much ashamed for themselves right now… The inability to get something done can be accepted, but us fans demand at least some effort… Do they even realize they are fighting for a playoff spot?
My body might be in Greece, but my mind and my heart is in Arizona. When the heck will I visit the Desert?
They haven’t shown they care one bit for a long time
by ArizonaCactus on Apr 5, 2009 2:37 PM MDT up reply actions
we should just congratuate Kidd...
what’s the harm at this point?
when it's not your day, it's not your day
i guess that’s the nail to the coffin…
OK, that's ridiculous now
My body might be in Greece, but my mind and my heart is in Arizona. When the heck will I visit the Desert?
Kidd with 16 assists...
My body might be in Greece, but my mind and my heart is in Arizona. When the heck will I visit the Desert?
"That was my longest assist"
You just have to laugh.
And the Mavs are on pace to score 162
My body might be in Greece, but my mind and my heart is in Arizona. When the heck will I visit the Desert?
Sigh
The Suns on Sundays on ABC and orange unis are a disaster in the making. We are one disaster of a team.
let me thank Nash
for his service for the last 4 years. but this is it. this is the end of his brilliance as a Sun player. let him go somewhere else.
also, bless Grant Hill for being able to play every game in a regular season. too bad this is the season with the playoff.
Say bye bye to the Suns as we know it
After today, the talks of a compelte overhaul will begin. Who knows WTF are team will look like next year. Time to bring in the youth so we can have some hope again. Even if it takes years.
if Kerr/Sarver weren’t idiots they could bring back a good team next year. They have tradeable assets. If Kwame’s expiring can bring back Pau then I’m sure Shaq’s could bring something good back, Nash is valuable and so is Amare. I’m sure they will find a way to screw it up though.
Not that easy
Shaq’s contract isn’t as easy to trade as Kwame’s since it’s so huge, and LA gave up 2 first round picks, Marc Gasol (easily a top 10 rookie in a deep, deep rookie class), and Crittenton who turned into another first round pick for Memphis. Even then, the only reason LA got that deal is that they were the only team willing to go into luxury tax land.
He'll have value
I’m just saying don’t expect to get a player of Pau’s caliber, especially at the pg or center positions. And the Suns will probably have to take back some bad contracts to make the money work, the last thing you want as a rebuilding team.
Also
In this recession, with the luxury cap being even lower next year, the likelihood of someone taking on shaq’s contract is not great. Could happen, but makes it more difficult.
by ArizonaCactus on Apr 5, 2009 2:53 PM MDT up reply actions
May we wish the Blazers good forture in the playoffs
Do it because you are this blog’s second favorite team….and since you have like half of our draft picks on your team….
by ArizonaCactus on Apr 5, 2009 3:01 PM MDT up reply actions
Thanks
With this inevitable loss to Dallas, the Blazers clinch a playoff spot. If we beat the Rockets in Houston in a couple hours we have a good chance at homecourt.
Karma
Thanks, appreciated.
Come see us at Blazers Edge for the playoffs, there’s plenty of room on the bandwagon…
Pontiff of the Pryz for Prez Posse...
We lost our most important game of the season
(last one against the mavs) and we are looking for a repeat right now. That hurts.
The whole season hurts
All realistic hope was lost the last time we lost to Dallas. This is just the nail in the coffin.
Let's put Dragic, Barbosa, Hill, Dudley, and Lou out there to start the second half.
They’re the only guys that play adequate defense. Hell the only guys still with the team next year.
.My opinion of Steve Nash
Steve Nash has been a warrior for the Suns. Over the last four years, and many times this year, he has been the only player on our team that seems to put in maximal effort. We all know about his defensive shortcomings, but he tries to make up for that with his offensive skill set.
here is my concern, however.
He doesn’t seem to care about winning, per se. He seems to love competing, and by that I mean, he seems to enjoy getting down by a few points and then trying to mount the comeback. For example, reference the quotes where he talks of how a championship doesn’t mean that much to him, but simply playing as part of a team as well.
I know this will be considered blasphemy by most of the readers here, and I love Nash as a player, but I don’t think that you win a championship with him.
That being said, since we are nowhere close to winning a championship anytime soon, I say we try to bring him back next year, since he still is the most entertaining player (LB close second) to watch on our team.
"a championship doesn’t mean that much to him"
I think Nash said this only after realizing he may not win a championship with all the injuries and suspensions in the past few years…
In a way, I feel the same way. I mean…in my life, there are many things not going to my way. So I have learned to have my own definition of success, given so many other things are not within my control…
to clarify, i don’t think that winning a championship defines a player as a ‘success’ in the way nash would define ‘success’. Nash has made every player on his team much better. Players that independent of him clearly wouldn’t have been nearly as good. So i don’t mean to suggest that Nash isn’t/wasn’t a great player and overall my favorite player of the last 5 years to watch.
by ArizonaCactus on Apr 5, 2009 3:10 PM MDT up reply actions
My expert analysis
Keep LB GH and some of the role players, and get rid of everyone else and try to get blake griffin. Acquire some picks and come out a few seasons from now a transformed team
griffin is like
amare.
but amare has better j’s and fts.
so id rather have stat than blake.
yea but i think blake cares more about winning, and has a better work ethic
and besides amare couldnt shoot all that well when he entered the league either
by IrrationalAgent on Apr 5, 2009 3:09 PM MDT up reply actions
I think Amare has an underated work ethic. he has improved significantly his outside shooting, free throws, etc. Unfortunately, he hasn’t put the same effort in to getting better defensively. I remember thinking when he had that block against Duncan in the playoffs against San Antonio like 4-5 years ago, that he would be a defensive stopper. I was wrong
by ArizonaCactus on Apr 5, 2009 3:12 PM MDT up reply actions
+1
I’m guilty of ragging on him but when I do stop and think about it, the man has significantly improved areas of his game not to mention coming back from microfracture surgery.
He's improved his jumper, most definitely.
But he’s REGRESSED on defense and on the glass, if that’s possible.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
I think Amare needs motivation. You put him on a team with LeBron or some other dominant personality that won’t accept laziness, then I bet you would see a different player, defensively.
by ArizonaCactus on Apr 5, 2009 3:20 PM MDT up reply actions
That might be true, but it's indicative of a larger problem.
A 26-27 year old grown-@ss man should be self-motivated.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Yeah
I remember that block. It was one of the most beautiful things that I’ve seen as a basketball fan.
by Diego Queiroz on Apr 6, 2009 2:25 PM MDT up reply actions
I knew it'd be difficult
but I can’t believe this game was over at halftime. Pathetic effort by our players.
Well that was a fun season.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
The recap should be called.
Dallas sums up Suns season.
TO THE NBA - " Yeah, you have created a rift within me ; Now there have been ; several complications ; that have left me feeling nothing ; I might say, you were ; wrong to take it from me ; Left me feeling nothing " - Disturbed, "Numb"
Do the Suns keep the team together and try again next year?
Is anybody a free agent? Why not keep this same team and try again with a healthy Amare?
Karma
Nah, changes are needed
With Amare back, we’ll just a very little better offensively and even worse defensively
My body might be in Greece, but my mind and my heart is in Arizona. When the heck will I visit the Desert?
We're better defensively with Amare rather than Barnes.
He gives us size at the very least.
Size is pointless if he's never in position
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Lou is getting more minutes though
We are just in this situation because Kerr traded Boris…
My body might be in Greece, but my mind and my heart is in Arizona. When the heck will I visit the Desert?
This season the most unbelievable things have happened...
My body might be in Greece, but my mind and my heart is in Arizona. When the heck will I visit the Desert?
ME
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
I think everyone who watched the Suns in the year Amare was gone knew that Boris was a great player when Amare wasn’t on the team.
by ArizonaCactus on Apr 5, 2009 3:16 PM MDT up reply actions
He was a good player even when Amare WAS on the team.
That’s what I’d been preaching from the beginning of the season, and his inclusion in the trade is the main reason as to why I hated it. The Richardson deal is worse than the Shaq deal.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
+1
meant to say Boris was a great player and even more valuable when Amare’s not on the team….
by ArizonaCactus on Apr 5, 2009 3:22 PM MDT up reply actions
I am glad.
This group has no right to make playoffs. Biggest game of the year and they come out playing like this. I only wish that I could go to the last home game and just throw all my suns gear on the court.
Let's not lose our love for the Suns
This is just the way sports work, success is never guaranteed. Let’s just hope for a brighter future and cheer for our Suns
My body might be in Greece, but my mind and my heart is in Arizona. When the heck will I visit the Desert?
Well, I'm off guys
It’s getting late here and can’t stand watching this… Not to mention I’m tired and need to sleep… Have a good afternoon everyone
My body might be in Greece, but my mind and my heart is in Arizona. When the heck will I visit the Desert?
Blame Sarver/Kerr
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
I will always be a suns fan but lets face it
this particular configuration is through. Even with Amare we are a 5, 4 seed at the MOST, which still doesn’t justify (in sarver’s mind) being this far over the cap.
If we had won at Utah and Sac-town, this loss would be much more manageable...
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
I'm done watching this crap.
Take care, gentlemen.
"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee."
Drew Gooden.
same here
I was sticking around hoping for an epic 4th q comeback, but it didn’t happen
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
lol very true
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
i long for the days of jerry c.
i mean, we have as an owner who is a banker heavily involved in the subprime, mortgage-backed security, and credit default swaps that have helped ruin our economy and we expect him to be able to make good ownership decisions over an nba franchise?
i hope sarver goes bankrupt. and i hope steve kerr learns quickly that he’s way over his head….
by ArizonaCactus on Apr 5, 2009 3:45 PM MDT up reply actions
Sucks for me b/c this is the only sport I care for, haha
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
me too
maybe football.
but certainly not baseball. sports just got less entertaining for a LONG time.
by ArizonaCactus on Apr 5, 2009 3:46 PM MDT up reply actions
Just came back home
84-61?! Why?
With the 14th pick of the 2009 NBA draft, the Pheonix Suns select... 3 million dollars!
Goran looks good.
Hooray.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
F*CK DALLAS! F*CK TEXAS IN GERNERAL
I might be a Blazer Fan, but I have been pulling for you guys just as bad as us…. I hate Texas….
Couldn't we just play the Timberwolves again instead? That's like being beheaded with a Nerf bat. -Dave with the Laker game preview
Somebody call the UN b/c that was straight up genocide.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
I cant even begin to relate my anger.
This damned season just cant end fast enough.
"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness
Anyone got a secondary team they will be pulling for in the postseason
Im thinking either NO or portland
Charlotte all the way if they make it
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Anything but Lakers/Spurs
Actually I only mildly hate the Spurs, but I monumentally hate the Lakers.
With the 14th pick of the 2009 NBA draft, the Pheonix Suns select... 3 million dollars!
I monumentally hate the Suns right now.
"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee."
Drew Gooden.
Portland
They are our brothers in the fight against the Sp*rs and L*kers
by ArizonaCactus on Apr 5, 2009 5:16 PM MDT up reply actions
thanks
and I was pulling for you guys today. I can’t stand Dirk or half the Mavs for that matter, and I’ll always appreciate the Suns for the impact of SSOL. I hope you blow it up, because the sooner you begin the pain the sooner you’ll be through to the other side.
The Michael Ruffin of BlazersEdge, cuz Amlmart said so.
by BlazersOrBust on Apr 5, 2009 7:47 PM MDT up reply actions
Your Next Opponent...
The New Orleans Hornets are getting served by one of the league’s worst road teams in the Utah Jazz. Buzzer-beater vs. the Kings, dogfight against the Clippers, now this against the Jazz at home where they’re supposed to be good. What’s going on in the Crescent City?
by Hater From Dallas on Apr 5, 2009 6:59 PM MDT reply actions
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