as ;pretty much a “poor-man’s” richardson. Won’t give you much on defense, can supposedly create his own shot and drive the the basket, aka JRich. He hasn’t panned out as much as people thought he would with the Buklls, would he fit better in this system? I really like Tyrus though, I think he has some real upside to him and could be coachable and fit well into the suns system. He plays with energy.

With Shaq’s career winding down, though, can he be the new center?

it. Perhaps hate is not strong enough of a word.
Amare, when healthy and getting touches, is a first-team NBA, top ten player in the league. A top five scorer. And he’s what, 26?
I’m not opposed to trading him. You just better get more than a total gamble (Ty Thomas), dead weight (Tim Thomas) and one of the most selfish scorers in the league (Salmons).
Also, Salmons really is just is a poor-man’s richardson. And we don’t need J-Rich in the first place.
You need a future franchise building block in return for Amare, and Thomas is not it. It’ll need to be Gay, Smith, Biedrins, Kevin Martin, someone like that. I think Kerr knows that, and that’s why you didn’t see Amare go for 50 cents on the dollar at the trade deadline. They turned down Beasely and Marion for Amare right? Marion is twice the player Salmons is and Beasely has twice the potential Ty Thomas does.
Blech

with Amare’s ability to opt out you aren’t going to get top notch talent for him.

I am not sold on this deal w/ Chicago either but what I like is that it gives you options. In the short run, the team is better then it was after Amare went down w/ the injury so that’s a step up there. If Salmons and Tyrus don’t work out you’ve can get rid of them quickly and move on.

Smith worries me more actually b/c he’s signed to a long term deal and I am not convinced he’s ever going to be more more then he is now. Which isn’t bad but isn’t as good as Amare and is now on your roster until 2013.

Biedrins I would take. Rudy Gay as well. I don’t think the Kings would move Martin but I would love that too.

Salmons indeed is another selfish scorer which troubles me except that he could replace JRich in that role is we can dump him and that kind of scoring is great to have off the bench or as a 3rd or 4th option. I think he’s a better defensive player then Jason as well…which isn’t saying much.

As for Marion and Beasely, I am not so sure about that. I think Marion comes with other baggage that wouldn’t have been worth it for just a few months. At this point in his career I don’t know how much better then TT he really is. Beasely would have been the prize in that deal but again, I am not convinced his upside is greater then TT. He’s very immature and it will likely be 3 or 4 years before we really know enough about him. I think this deal is better then that one.

This is not a stellar deal but is one that I would not discount out of hand.

I am probably more inclined to see what Amare can do coming back w/ this group and w/ Gentry. It is certainly his last chance to shine in Phoenix though. If he wants the kind of money he’s asking for he’s going to have to really step it up early in the season and then means on both ends of the floor.

Then Tyrus is a gain for Phoenix. He’s one of the better weak-side defenders in the NBA, and his shotblocking abilities are pretty well-known by now.

Offensively, he has his moments of idiocy, but honestly the young guy has never been given a real coach or offensive system to thrive in. He has improved his jumpshot considerably, and with the right coach/PG his movement around the basket will improve.

Salmons is a pretty selfish scorer, there’s no way around it. You’re getting 17-18 points out of him, pretty much a cheaper Jason Richardson with better defense.

Look I appreciate the effort as much as anyone. Honestly, it is slightly intriguing. I mean, getting several solid players who can make the team better is a good thing. They’d definitely do better than some of our backups. However, I see problems everywhere…

First, the worst things about Amare: his defense and his propensity for injury. No doubt about it, Amare is not a quality defender. He is pretty decent on the block but thats about it. Moreover, you can never tell if Amare is going to miss some time because of an injury. The eye thing seemed to disappear for months then resurfaces right when things start to look up. I swear, this guy almost has a curse on him.

However…when Amare is on, he is a freaking monster. On some level I know this is because of the style of play but I cant help but wonder if we traded him away if we would end up kicking ourselves like we are always doing. House, Thomas (both Tim and Kurt), Rondo, Rodriguez, even Marion, Bell, and Diaw to some degree and now we are talking about trading Amare? If we do, I practically guarantee that he will reinvent and dominate where ever he goes and suns fans will be kicking themselves again. He brings waaaaaay too much to the offensive table to just let go for practically nothing.

Now, I understand the contract issue. Its tough. Yet I would rather than Amare jumped ship on his own after a solid year of giving him a change with Gentry and start fresh there then doing a sort of pseudo-start-over and basically crapping the team for the next 3 years. Interesting idea, but no go in my opinion.

Until Amare shows that he is fully recovered from his injury, no team will trade top talent for him. And nor should they.

Amare, from what I understand, still has blood in his eye, and is still unable to run, which means that he is not progressing as well as he should be. I’m not convinced that his long-term prognosis is that great. Lots of people with retinal hemorrhages continue to suffer from blind spots, blurry vision, etc. which means that he will need to prove his recovery prior to any trade.

I would not be mad at Sarver for trading somebody away for 3 mill cash :^)

You guys can at least get chicago´s 1st round pick and maybe another future pick too.
If phx did that and also traded J-Rich for AK47, the team would be a lot better.

We need to do this trade. I’d take a first round pick, also, but it’d be good enough as is.

Are you kidding me? I can see the team trying to trade Amare—-but for that garbage? I like Tyrus Thomas but we’ve already seen Tim Thomas here before. Remember? He left the Suns, when his value couldn’t be any higher than it was, to cash in for the Clips and be overweight and lazy. Do we really want him back here and being unmotivated on the Suns. He needs to find his way back to NY to play for DiAntoni again. That was the last time he was relavent.

As for the Bulls, they would be great trading partners with the Suns for Shaq or Amare. In return, the Suns are going to want either Gordon, Deng, Hinrich or Noah. Suns need to figure out who’s replacing Nash when he retires or leaves and Hinrich would be a solid replacement. The Suns were interested in Noah when he was drafted and also liked Deng enough to draft him years ago. Depending on how the lottery unfolds, I can see something happenning this summer. More than likely, Shaq will probably get traded because he has an expiring contract and wants to go out with a chance to win one more title. He had a great year and would fit perfectly with the Cavs. Cavs have nothing to lose and would like Lebron to stay. Shaq would put them over the top if they don’t win it this year.

Who knows. I can’t tell if you’re a fan of the Suns or a fan of the Bulls with this posting. Terrible trade for the Suns.

The Trailblazers might. They have a bunch of athletic guys that run up and down the court. If the Suns could pry LeMarcus Aldridge away for Shaq or Amare that would be more enticing. Could you imagine Shaq and Pryzbilla on the same team? Or trade Amare to the Thunder for 1st round draft pick and Earl Watson. They have a stockpile of picks (including our own).

If they do trade him, i would much rather trade him to the East.