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Rumor: Shaq to Chicago for Luol Deng

 

This rumor is reported by someone who has been very accurate in the past & is a main source of insider info to Bulls fans:

 

http://www.rumorpress.net/

 

There is a possibility Shaquille O’Neal could be in a Chicago Bulls uniform next season. In a rather surprising discovery, the Phoenix Suns and Bulls plan on engaging in trade talks that could send the future hall of fame center to Chicago, as soon as teams are allowed to talk after the playoffs. Suns GM Steve Kerr is looking to deal Shaq and is said to be interested in Loul Deng. The Suns would like to move the aging center mainly because he has slowed the up-tempo Suns down drastically. They feel Deng could bring some young, athletic energy back to the team. The Suns also feel Deng could still live up to his potential and contract if he can stay healthy

 

(MORE at link)

 

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That's the first post in this thread on RealGM( http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=908509 ). I think the deal may have some merit, but only if Kerr/Sarver don't screw it up. Shaq was great for us last season, but who knows if he'll be able to replicate that success next year. I'm confident in our training staff's ability to get Deng back to the level he was playing at just a few short years ago( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7N22f1L3yHc ) . However, I still believe that Shaq's All-NBA, All-Star, 21 million dollar expiring is worth more than Luol Deng, Jerome James(expiring contract, 80% covered by insurance making him financially appealing) and Tim Thomas(another expiring contract), which is the deal that most Chicago fans seem to be pushing. 

If we trade Shaq, we HAVE to get back another four/five starter to play next to Amare. Run/Gun is fun until you have our undersized front-court getting absolutely demolished by Al Jefferson, Pau Gasol/Lamar Odom/Andrew Bynum, Tim Duncan, Carlos Boozer/Memo Okur, Dirk/Dampier, Scola/Yao, Griffin/Randolph/Camby/Kaman, etc.

Thus, I propose the following trade. New Orleans gets an expiring contract for Chandler(what they tried to get for him at the deadline), Chicago gets Shaq+Jason RIchardson to add to their lineup and frees themselves of Deng's contract, and we roll out the following lineup:

 

PG: Nash/Hinrich/Dragic

SG: Deng/Barbosa

SF: Hill/Dudley

PF: Amare/Tim Thomas

C: Chandler/Lou/Lopez

 

I think that's a fantastic lineup. Hinrich adds defense and can either back up Nash or play alongside Nash at times. Deng/Hill are good perimeter defenders, and Chandler takes the dirty work in the post so Amare can wreak havoc. Under Gentry I think that lineup can actually go deep in the playoffs. The most important part of this trade is quite obviously the return of Tim Thomas, who provides phenomenal swag and may actually play like he gives a damn again since it's his contract year.

Of course, most Chicago fans don't want anything to do with Jason Richardson, and I understand that, so doing the deal without Richardson and Hinrich would be fine with me too, but then I don't know how we'd handle our starting lineup, because Deng should start over Richardson, and Hill plays so much better as a starter.

Anyways, what are your guys thoughts on a potential Shaq to Chicago deal?

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If the money works, then do it.

If we got Luol Deng he could play in the SF spot. Then we either let Hill go, or bring him off the bench.

I think our best bet at C would be to try and get Gortat off the Magic. Great complimentary center to Amare. Defends, cleans up the glass, and can shoot a solid Jumper.

by Funky Flapsack on May 27, 2009 8:09 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I like this trade. I’ve always been a fan of Luol Deng. Now that they have John Salmons, Chicago is much more willing to deal off Deng, I’m sure.

by jburning on May 27, 2009 8:48 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Deng is no SG. They don’t want J-Rich, they would do this trade to save money so they can re-sign Ben Gordon to a long term deal much like the one they are ridding themselves of in Deng.

I’m all for the original trade w/ Tim and Jerome’s insurance paid contract. Those contracts could hold trade value for us at a later date or in a 3 way.

Deng is what we are looking for and Shaq is expendable. Do it.

by bradley281 on May 27, 2009 10:55 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

The question remains...

what we do about a CENTER! Cmon guys as much as Shaq is a deficit in the defense, we dont have a center to back him up. This was the problem with Marion and I dont want it to return. Unless we can pull some deal to get a center in the mix, no Shaq trade should happen. We cannot afford to pull in more shooters but push Amare into the 5 spot. It wont work.

Go read a book!

by N8lol on May 28, 2009 8:36 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

thats why we go get Gortat

by Funky Flapsack on May 28, 2009 11:09 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

seconded on Gortat

that crazy Pole can play

by Fritzy on May 28, 2009 12:16 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

We just can't help pouring on the draft mistakes...

Isn’t Gortat one of our traded picks?

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by presbot on May 28, 2009 1:02 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know about Gortat...

…but Deng is in fact one of our traded draft picks.

by Mike Lisboa on May 28, 2009 1:12 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

yup.. for cash considerations.

2nd round, 57th overall, 2005

by brian13 on May 28, 2009 2:20 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

350K

the cash considerations ended up being 350,000. So we essentially traded the rights for Gortat for a measly 350K. Typical …

"The mustard is off the hot dog!"

by Billy Hoyle on May 29, 2009 1:06 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh you're right

Shaq didn’t work out, so centers are worthless. I say the Suns should never try to go for a true big man ever again. They are too tall and rebound too well

by Funky Flapsack on May 29, 2009 4:42 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

i still don't understand

why would the young chicago team want an old guy like shaq??? totally unfit in my opinion.

by sonicking on May 28, 2009 9:17 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

They want his contract

21 million dollars expiring=massive 2010 cap space

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on May 28, 2009 9:30 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because he is instantly the best player on the team...

Rose’s upside and quick assention will be ridiculous, but if the trade happened right now, Shaq would be the best player on the Bulls. To foolishly dismiss him as “old” is lazy, at best

"I’m tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money. I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok." ~Shaq

by Max_in_Missouri on May 29, 2009 3:09 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Luol Deng makes 60 million over the next 5 years.

The Bulls would love to get out from under that contract. I’m a big fan of Deng’s game but I just don’t think the Suns should take it. It’s time to get out from under all of these big contracts, not add a new one.

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by SoulHonky on Jun 4, 2009 9:39 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I got an idea

You want true Run-n-Gun Suns back? Let’s resign Marion. And keep Shaq. That would be an elite team

by Funky Flapsack on May 28, 2009 11:13 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

We don't have the money

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on May 28, 2009 1:41 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

He won't come back to PHX for the MLE

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on May 28, 2009 7:54 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Even if he would

the Suns aren’t using the MLE to pay twofold in lux. tax.

Purchasing my Dragic jersey

by rosewood on May 29, 2009 12:11 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Truth

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on May 29, 2009 12:42 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Like the idea

I would LOVE to see Hinrich in the Pheonix uni. That guy is a player.

I don’t want breakaway speed. I want break-some-poor-fool-as-I-bowl-you-over power getting 6 yards off a play that should have been stopped for 2 at most.

by sadaraine on May 28, 2009 12:05 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I really like that lineup

it would at least be entertaining. we’d probably lead the league in ally-oops.

by IrrationalAgent on May 28, 2009 8:20 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

"Plan on engaging???"
Phoenix Suns and Bulls plan on engaging in trade talks

"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal

by timbo on May 28, 2009 8:20 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Digging

We have dug ourselves a shaq sized hole in the last season and a half, i think this is the perfect way to get out of said hole. Getting a servicable centre like Gortat who doesn’t need offensive touches would be the perfect fit next to Amare.
We already have an offensive weapon in Amare, we don’t need another big man who can score, we need a big man who can play D, and pound the boards. anything else will just get in Amare’s way.

I’m not a huge fan of Deng, but i am a huge fan of getting rid of shaq, so i am all for the trade. (tho if we don’t sign a servicable centre, and Amare has to slide to the 5 we’ll be in big big trouble)

by Chucko667 on May 28, 2009 11:44 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

ok its off season and we have nothing to do and nothing substantial to discuss. This of course, would never happen straight up, and for us to pick up someone with upside like Deng would require us to give something pretty decent in return for the aging, lumbering, etc. blah blah blah Shaq. But sure, in a second i’d do it, but not if its giving up our #1 this year as well.

by RD74 on May 28, 2009 11:48 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Do It!

And do it now! CHI probably wouldn’t want to have both Gordon and Richardson (esp with their contracts) at the same time so that seems like kind of a pipe dream. I also agree that Deng can’t play the two but the rest of that lineup looks incredible.

by turs12 on May 29, 2009 2:26 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I’m keeping my fingers crossed. I’d take Deng, Hinrech, and Chandler.

Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.

by SunDolphin on May 29, 2009 9:12 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Deng is good, but overrated

Are people stuck in the mindset of 2 year ago when it seemed like Deng’s ceiling was the sky?? He has definitely leveled off, if not regressed. Certainly injuires played a role in his demise last season, but what you see with Deng is what you get. Given his contract and the fact that he doesn’t seem to be improving, this is a horrible trade for the Suns.

Plus, no one wants j-rich. I love the guy as a person and his hustle on the court, but his situation is pretty similar to Deng’s. He was a guy who came in to the league with freakish athleticism and limitless potential, improved vastly over first few years in the league, got an albatross of a contract, and then pretty much never got any better.

Besides, I haven’t done all the math, but it looks like that shit would cost a lot more than Sarver’s cheapass is willing to dole out. Especially when the proposed revamped roster is still not that scary looking, except for by name recognition.

"I’m tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money. I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok." ~Shaq

by Max_in_Missouri on May 29, 2009 3:15 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

You love J Rich as a person?

Yeah, his reckless drink driving is really endearing….

by Chucko667 on May 31, 2009 8:27 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok so he kinda sucks...

but my point was that no other team wants him.

"I’m tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money. I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok." ~Shaq

by Max_in_Missouri on Jun 1, 2009 2:43 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

@Max

I rekon JRich has proven that he can carry an offense and be a good scorer from his time in Charlotte where he pretty much single handedly ran their offense.
I think he could see a good role in Toronto after Bosh leaves, the Kings, or any other team who needs a guy who can create his own shot.

He would probably do well in New York since D’Antoni doesn’t care that his players don’t play D.

It’s all about shopping him around and seeing what other teams can bring to the table.

by Chucko667 on Jun 1, 2009 8:43 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

All Surgical Squad

Amare → Deng -→Chandler —> Hill -→ Nash What are the odds this group could play 30 games together?

by dCoye on May 29, 2009 10:29 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

help

The link to the trade machine won’t work. Can someone please post whom the Suns/Hornets/Bulls are sending to each other? Thanks guys. :)

by phxsun on Jun 3, 2009 10:30 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

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