Phoenix Suns All-Star forward Amare Stoudemire possibly headed to the Minnesota Timberwolves?
Amare Stoudemire has been at the top of the rumor list for sometime now. He has been criticized for his lack of effort on the defensive side of the court but nobody can deny that he is one of the best scoring forwards in the game. Then newest rumor circulating is sending Amare to the Minnesota Timberwolves for Al Jefferson and the 6th overall pick in the draft. This trade works out well for both teams and is in discussion between the two franchises. Let’s break down this deal from both angles and see how it can benefit both teams.
The Wolves would receive one of the best scoring power forwards in the game today and instantly receive name recognition in the NBA that they have so badly wanted. They have not had that star since deciding to depart with Kevin Garnett a couple years back. We all know how that deal went for both teams. They would have an immediately unstoppable scoring presence on the inside. Amare for his career is averaging 21.4 points 8.10 rebounds and 2.0 assists per game and is under contract next year for $16,378,325 and has a player option for the following season that would pay him $17,686,100. Amare is entering his seventh year in the league after making the jump straight from high school and will be seeking a max contract after this season from any team willing to show him the money. However they will have to make more deals then that to make them a playoff potential team.
After the Timberwolves decided to part ways with Kevin McHale today it is obvious that the team is looking to go in a new direction under their new President of Basketball Operations David Kahn. This trade could put them in that new direction and they would have a pivotal player to build a team around.
The Suns would receive the services of Al Jefferson who was traded a couple years ago from Boston in exchange for Kevin Garnett. He is a defensive and rebounding upgrade from Amare Stoudemire but does not possess the same athleticism and offensive ability that Stat can bring for you. Big Al has averaged 23.1 points 11.0 rebounds and 1.6 assists per game throughout his career and is under contract for the next four years at $12,000,000 per season and increasing $1,000,000 per year thereafter. Al is entering his fifth year in the NBA and could add a great defensive toughness to the Phoenix Suns. He has the potential to be a star in this league for years to come.
Another issue to discuss with this potential deal is the major injuries that both of these players are currently recovering from. Amare partially tore his retina and suffered optic nerve damage during the season and missed the last half. This is a very serious injury and if it does not heal properly could inhibit his vision for the rest of his life. However the good news is that all indications are that Stat will have a full recovery and be ready to go come preseason. Because of the severity of his injury he has vowed to wear eye protection for the rest of his career. Big Al suffered one of the worst injuries a basketball player can get. He is currently recovering from a torn ACL but also is ahead of schedule and should be back to 100% by preseason. It is also worth mentioning that Amare has already previously suffered a very dangerous knee injury by recovering from his micro fracture surgery from a few years ago. These injuries are issues that both teams should closely look at before making this potential deal.
The other pivotal point to this trade that really entices the Phoenix Suns is that it includes the Wolves 6th overall pick in this year’s draft. This deal would give the Suns the 6th and the 14th overall pick. This would allow them to pick up young talent and start the rebuilding process since everyone knows as constructed this is not a championship team. There are a handful of great point guards and athletic big men available in this draft and could be a huge opportunity to begin to rebuild this team for the future.
Both teams can see how this trade can send them in the new direction they are desperately seeking and overall this trade can benefit both teams greatly. What are your opinions on this potentially franchise changing move that is in discussion by these two teams?
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by RGreyslak on Jun 17, 2009 10:32 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
took my thunder
i was just about to post a link to this story, but you presented it in a much more thought out way. I love it. If it happens then we should draft Jennings for sure
by Funky Flapsack on Jun 17, 2009 10:39 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
re: took my thunder
I like Jennings too he has an aggessiveness and huge upside. I hope he is just not all flash. He does seem to want to play strong defense and is always conscerned with his steals. . It’s such a touch decision with so many 1 and 2 guards in the draft it is hard to tell who will be the next Rondo dwade or bust. I hope they make some good decisions this year and please dont keep the same team.
by RGreyslak on Jun 17, 2009 10:49 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great deal for the Suns
I do have my doubts about Big Al but I like a Lopez/Jefferson frontcourt and they could add their PG of the future or use the #6 along with Shaq’s expiring deal to bring back some talent. Maybe use Nash, the #6, and something else to make a run at Chris Bosh?
I really don’t know what Minny is thinking. Would Stoudemire really re-sign to stay in Minnesota?
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by SoulHonky on Jun 17, 2009 10:49 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Re: Great deal for the suns
I was thinking the same thing? how could they keep stat there? we can trick him with a sign and trade :)
by RGreyslak on Jun 17, 2009 10:53 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where did you hear this rumour????
This would be a knockout deal for the suns and a horrible deal for the Grizzlies. In my opinion, Jefferson is already better than Amare. Plus the number 6? I would do Amare and the 14 for jefferson.
Man I hope this happens
by UASun on Jun 17, 2009 11:41 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Re: where did you hear this rumor???
several sources but the most credible being:
this would be a great deal!
by RGreyslak on Jun 17, 2009 11:48 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's originally from the Boston Globe
And a guy on the Wolves blog (Poor Dick) brought up an interesting idea; maybe this is a little jab from Danny Ainge for the Wolves dumping his friend Kevin McHale.
“I was willing to come back, but they never offered me a contract,” McHale said. “They told me last night they were going in a different direction. I told them I know it’s been a tough couple of years but that the team is starting to build and that they had some good progress last year when Al (Jefferson) was healthy.”
Wouldn’t put it past Ainge to float a rumor to hurt Kahn’s public image.
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by SoulHonky on Jun 17, 2009 11:53 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why would the T-Wolves do this?
Frankly, Amare isn’t enough of an upgrade over Jefferson to make this work for them. Adding the 6th pick makes this insanely imbalanced in the Suns’ favor. Yeah, I would love this for Phoenix, but not so much for Minn. Jefferson rebounds significantly better than Amare, but my understanding is that he isn’t exactly a defensive gem either. Great rumor from this side of the fence.
by BrewDude on Jun 17, 2009 11:56 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
I don’t see how in the world this makes sense for Minnie unless they really really don’t like Al Jeff for some reason and want to get rid of him for a short team contract
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by Phoenix Stan on Jun 18, 2009 12:12 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gambo From twitter...
These Amare to Minnesota for Jefferson and the #6 rumor is total BS. There have been NO discussions with Minny on this. It’s total crap
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by presbot on Jun 18, 2009 12:15 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly
How is the world they give up Jefferson and the 6th overall for Amare and his injury issues?
Stop with this nonsense. T-Wolves have 3 No. 1’s, maybe they give up there lowest No.1 and swap with our 14th. But to give up the 6th overall, not in a million years.
Rumors like this do not justify print.
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by Grockcubs on Jun 19, 2009 3:29 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I vote maybe
I like it….but at the same time I don’t. My question is whether or not shaq would be teamed up Jefferson or would this coincide with another big trade?
I think that’s the only thing holding me back from approving this
by Batmanthesunsfan on Jun 18, 2009 12:53 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Forgot...
to put with before Jefferson.
by Batmanthesunsfan on Jun 18, 2009 12:55 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nevermind
I vote yes!
But of course Kahn had to turn it down
Damn you David Kahn!
by Batmanthesunsfan on Jun 18, 2009 11:56 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
im a huge amare fan but even i would have to do this..I still think Amare is better almost the same numbers and he was the 3rd option most of the season..If we dont make this deal we should buy another draft pick..it looks like Jennings will fall to us and i’d take Daye or Clark or Johnson with the other pick we buy
by Lebrontophx2010 on Jun 18, 2009 1:31 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Suns should do this...
in a flash if it really is available. i have same doubts as other posts above… why would wolves do this?? At this stage Al is the better, more reliable player… unless there’s something wolves know that we dont regarding extent of his injury… then getting stoudemire who may opt out will be good for them salary cap-wise
by toto_l2003 on Jun 18, 2009 1:53 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Suns should make this trade in a heartbeat
It’s the first trade rumor that makes sense for Phoenix and really improve the team so I say just do it while Kahn is enough foolish to trade big Al and the draft pick for Stoudemire!
by Drucci on Jun 18, 2009 6:21 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
GAMBO
The source is legit, Marc Spears of the Boston GLobe. Gambo may just be mad that he wasn’t informed, plus he is half tarded. This may or may not be true but isn’t it fun to think about, regardless, the source is connected.
Amare is better than Jeff but I like this deal. Both of their injuries make me nervous though.
by bradley281 on Jun 18, 2009 7:55 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
agreed
i’ll take marc spears’ word over gambo’s any day
that being said, this makes no sense at all for minny
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
by rsavaj on Jun 18, 2009 8:26 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think if you get in the head of their GM, it makes sense. The TWolves are a franchise in desperate need of revitalization, and I think they’ll probably do whatever it takes at this point. Al’s great, but he’s not flashy, and I think the TWolves want flashy right now. They aren’t going to be able to be a player in the 2010 free agent market, so might as well try to trade for one of those guys now. The only problem is getting Amare to re-sign, but I wonder if Amare cares more about a max contract or where he’s playing? I have a feeling he’d play wherever was paying him the max money.
by jburning on Jun 18, 2009 8:36 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Show amare the money and I think he will play. But keeping him there could be tough
by RGreyslak on Jun 18, 2009 9:33 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
With Amare's ego ...
I think he’d just love to be “the man” somewhere, anywhere. If he were the #1 option in Minny, and was making $18mil/year, he’d be in heaven, I think, even if they were losing.
by jburning on Jun 18, 2009 9:37 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gambo
Not sure if anyone was listening to G&A the day the Shaq trade went down, but i was. And i remember the topic of the day was what trade should the Suns make for Marion. A caller suggested Marion for Shaq, and Gambo and Ash called him ridiculous; they thought it was the dumbest trade idea of the day. 2 hours later it went down. So who knows if he knows what he’s talking about
by Funky Flapsack on Jun 18, 2009 11:05 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
This deal is fantastic for the Suns.
I’m a big Al Jefferson fan, and the #6 pick just sweetens it up a lot. About the only reason I think the TWolves would do this is because new GM David Kahn has said a number of times he wants to make a splash on draft day, and this would certainly be a splash. Obtain a “superstar” to replace Garnett, who was traded away for what, at the time, looked like chump change in a deal that was widely derided by McHale-haters …
by jburning on Jun 18, 2009 7:59 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Sportscenter just said that the Wolves' GM said no way.
by stampchez on Jun 18, 2009 9:47 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
NO kidding
he would be fired.
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by Grockcubs on Jun 19, 2009 3:30 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
no go :(
http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/extras/celtics_blog/2009/06/jefferson_stayi.html
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
by rsavaj on Jun 18, 2009 9:58 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
re: no go :(
oh well we all can dream. I would have done that is a second
by RGreyslak on Jun 18, 2009 10:11 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I'm disappointed...
For a moment I really believed that this was going to happen… I thought that the Suns were going to take advantage of the new Wolves GM’s first big mistake but unfortunately it seems that only the Lakers can steal other teams in trade.
by Drucci on Jun 18, 2009 11:08 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Here's the latest from the Wolves' side of things:
http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/wolves/2009/06/18/the-amare-rumor/
David Kahn just called Al Jefferson this morning and assured him the Wolves are not trading him and the sixth pick to Phoenix for Amare Stoudemire.
The Boston Globe’s Marc Spears put the rumor up on his blog, but the Wolves have refuted it, saying the Suns called with the offer and Kahn turned it down.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Jun 18, 2009 11:30 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah...
I have no clue as to why people thought that this trade would happen.
Jefferson is better defensively, and on the boards, as well scores just about as many PPG while making ~5 million less a season.
So how would Jefferson + 6th overall have made any sense for the twolves?
If anything the Suns would be the team that would have to give up a first to get this to happen.
by Adi C on Jun 18, 2009 1:05 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
It didn't make any sense for Minny
But in 07/08(their last full seasons), Jefferson was the only big who was ranked statistically behind Amare defensively, so that’s not in his favor. But I agree; rebounding, his attitude, his contract, his age, and his relative health + the pick made it a lopsided trade.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
by rsavaj on Jun 18, 2009 1:35 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
The T-Wolves would do this
because they’re the T-Wolves. A history of stupid moves from this team. Look at last year, wehn they traded Mayo for Kevin Love. They could of had Mayo and Jefferson, and built around those guys and they would of been set for years.
by Funky Flapsack on Jun 18, 2009 2:09 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
You may not have noticed...
…but there was a press conference yesterday with a new GM and McHale leaving.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Jun 18, 2009 6:08 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
i noticed
doesnt change ownership
by Funky Flapsack on Jun 18, 2009 6:42 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
right...
….because losing rondo, joe johnson, and a host of others while only reaching the wcf is so much more functional. it’s a glass house with ownership talk.
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by Stop-n-Pop on Jun 18, 2009 9:56 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
the suns
have reached the playoffs almost consecutively for like 20 years or more, only missing a few times. Its the opposite for Minny
by Funky Flapsack on Jun 19, 2009 11:51 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do we really
need to pick a flame war with the Timberwolves? Lets save our hatred for the Lakers or Spurs.
They are nice folks up in Minnesota and they run a great blog at Canis Hoopus
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by Phoenix Stan on Jun 19, 2009 12:18 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is there *any* team out there that would trade for Amare..
Doesn’t his injury history just make him untradeable ?
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by Pliny the Elder on Jun 18, 2009 3:54 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Sorta...
… that’s actually why the Suns should consider themselves lucky, since he can walk after this season and they can wash their hands of him. They should avoid signing him to a max extension at all costs, unless it’s a sign-and-trade.
by jburning on Jun 18, 2009 4:03 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I feel like the only option left...
is New York sadly.
He grew up there, Mike D’antoni is the coach. Plus they want expiring contracts for 2010 so what do you know? A superstar with a year lease.
Of course this is just an idea….expand on it if you want. I don’t really care for much of the knicks roster…but I do like that 8th pick along with the 14th. Just saying
by Batmanthesunsfan on Jun 18, 2009 4:14 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
re:
I like sending Amare to New York, we could get David Lee sign and trade deal 8th pick and filler. Then suns still have 8th and 14th pick.
by RGreyslak on Jun 18, 2009 4:37 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
David Lee is one of only two I like on that roster. Him and Wilson Chandler and the 8th possibly?
by Batmanthesunsfan on Jun 18, 2009 5:13 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
and the suns
only give up Amare, come on guys
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by Grockcubs on Jun 19, 2009 3:32 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well...
I’ll admit that this idea isn’t very well thought out.
How would you propose we do it?
by Batmanthesunsfan on Jun 19, 2009 8:54 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Flip flop picks
They get the 14 and we get the 8.
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by Grockcubs on Jun 20, 2009 5:47 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alright
More reasonable…….but is this a good trade over all? and is it fair for both sides?
by Batmanthesunsfan on Jun 21, 2009 10:19 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, in the newspaper here in Minnesota, it says...
David Kahn made that whole thing up and he just started that rumor to show that he will be willing to make any trade and that anything could happen- something along those lines.
by KGMN on Jun 21, 2009 12:10 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

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