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Are the Phoenix Suns trading away another draft pick?

Are the Phoenix Suns going to trade away another draft pick?

The Phoenix Suns have been known for their draft day blunders throughout the last few years. Some picks the team have given up are Rudy Fernandez of the Portland Trailblazers, Rajon Rondo of the Championship winning Boston Celtics, Luol Deng of the Bull or Andre Iguodala who was also available with Deng’s pick, and Marcin Gortat just to name a few. They are known for trading their draft picks for cash which has led the franchise to where it is today. The previous coach and General Manager Mike D’Antoni had no interest in playing rookies or draft picks and this has ultimately hurt the franchise in the long run without ever rewarding them with a championship. They are now stuck with one foot in and one foot out of the rebuilding door with virtually little young talent to build off and only large contract tradable assets.

 With the Suns history over the past few years and all the disheartened fans would you ever think that they would trade this year’s 14th pick away? This is the newest rumor circulating around the Suns that most NBA insiders claim is not fading away.

Star-divide

 

The Suns are rumored to be in discussion with the Oklahoma City Thunder. Now before you get too excited and think the Suns are looking for one of their young studs or their top draft pick think again. This move actually would give the Thunder the Suns 14th pick in this years draft in exchange for their 25th overall pick and return the Suns their unprotected draft pick for next season. There are many people who did not even realize that the Suns gave up next years unprotected first round pick to the then Seattle Supersonics as virtually a throw in to shed themselves of Kurt Thomas’s contract. Another bad decision solely based on financial restrictions.

 

On the surface this deal could upset many fans in leading them to believe they are throwing away another draft pick. However, with a deeper look the signs that this deal would lead to could ultimately give Suns fans what they have been asking for all summer.

 

The Suns have stated they are not completely in love with any of the players that would more than likely be available to them with the 14th selection. Some of these rumored players that the Suns are interested in include Earl Clark, Austin Daye, James Johnson, and even Brandon Jennings. But the real studs they like probably would not be around at 14. They have expressed interest in some other players though that could be available later in the draft that could turn out to be as good or better then anyone selected at 14. This draft is so deep with players after the first few picks that it is very difficult to gage who could be a star and who could be a bust. If the Suns could get someone at 25 that they feel has as much potential to be a star as a player at 14 they might take that deal, provided that some great player does not miraculously slip down the draft to them.

 

The other great part of this deal is that by returning the unprotected draft pick for next year that they foolishly gave up could help prevent any worries of beginning to rebuild this team and not making the playoffs again next year. Could you imagine if the team started to rebuild this season or kept the same team and performed even worse next year? The only benefit to a lousy season in the potential lottery pick you can receive. If the Suns had a sub par season and didn’t get to benefit from the draft pick it could be devastating to the fans well as the franchise. The good part about making this deal is it allows the team to stop putting off the inevitable in fear of giving up a lottery pick for next season.

 

If the Suns do pull of this deal don’t expect it to happen until they confirm that one of the players they like doesn’t slip down to the 14th selection. If nobody is there don’t be surprised to see it happen. The other good sign to this trade to most Suns fans is the fact that the owner might finally be acknowledging the team needs to be rebuilt. If they retain their pick there would be nothing to hold them back. They could make all the moves they wanted to this season with out fear of giving up that first unprotected pick next year.

 

The only real way this move makes sense for the Suns is if they are now ready to make trades for some of their larger assets. Amare Stoudemire, Shaquille O’Neal, Jason Richardson, and Steve Nash have all been considered potential trade assets the Suns can use to rebuild with. Steve Kerr has expressed his interest in holding onto Steve Nash and even extending his contract. This would not make sense with the Suns in rebuild mode and Steve Nash does not want to play for a team in that position. This would be a great opportunity for the Suns to make moves now and put themselves in a position to compete with the better teams of the future.

 

With the Spurs acquiring Richard Jefferson yesterday and still keeping there big 3, as well as the Lakers, Nuggets, and Rockets being as good as they are the Suns are nowhere near ready to compete with these teams. There is no reason to put off the inevitable anymore when you can become proactive in rebuilding your team. Otherwise they will be stuck with the possibility of having another bad year and a team of veterans that are one more year older. The only benefit to letting any of those players fall off the books would be getting someone in free agency but you can’t be sure that you could actually lure a big name player to the valley. Why take that chance if you can use those pieces now to substantially improve your franchise for the future? Most fans have been begging for the Suns to make this decision and if they do decide to make a draft day trade with Thunder it could start this process without fear for the team.

 

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Poll
Do you see the benefit of this deal for the Phoenix Suns?
Yes it will help give the team confidence in the rebuilding process
78 votes
No it's another situation where the Suns are giving up another draft pick and potential future allstar
121 votes

199 votes | Poll has closed

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thank you i appreciate the compliment coming from you.

by RGreyslak on Jun 24, 2009 9:42 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

If Kerr does this

I say we toilet paper his house.

April 29, 2008 Total Eclipse of the Sun. Is the sky falling?

by Hawk42 on Jun 24, 2009 10:17 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I think it makes sense, but could you imagine Steve Kerr trying to sell this move to the masses? The average fan doesn’t know about next year’s pick and doesn’t care. So I could see some serious backlash. But you know what, we aren’t Laker or Knicks fans. It’s time to toughen up and deal with reality.

Kerr may simply be waiting for the right deal to come along, but he has never professed to being in “rebuilding” mode. He can’t say that while he’s trying to sell season tickets. Still, the writing’s on the wall, we had our window, and now we can’t compete with the top West teams without some changes-major changes.

Nothing will surprise me in the coming weeks/months.

by RD74 on Jun 24, 2009 10:32 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Potential trade

This is a trade that would work out perfectly for Phoenix, especially when you consider that there doesn’t seem to be a dramatic dropoff in talent from around 12-30. The team could potentially have two late 1st rounders (if Shaq to Cleveland happens), and the team could pick from names like Young, Daye, Ellington, Teague, and Jerebko. Any of these players could easily produce at the same level as someone selected in the mid-teens.

by J Trull on Jun 24, 2009 10:30 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

wow

this is it. Welcome to a team rebuilding. This is the first time ive done it, but now i would like to go ahead and blame all of this on Steve Kerr. Instead of being smart, like the Spurs, and figure out creative ways to make this team relevant, he went and took our team from being a few suspensions away from a title to a team with no clear future. Absolutely ridiculous

by Funky Flapsack on Jun 24, 2009 10:43 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Did we get back Shawn Marion?

April 29, 2008 Total Eclipse of the Sun. Is the sky falling?

by Hawk42 on Jun 24, 2009 10:44 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Sorry, no.

But if you take pick #46 and…

no, sorry.
Doesn’t work.
You got back a soon to be retired Ben Wallace, and an alright (at best) wing in Sasha Pavlovic.

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 24, 2009 10:46 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Paul Coro reporting that Shaq has been traded to Cleveland.

Deal will finalize Thursday.

The Suns have traded Shaquille O’Neal to the Cleveland Cavaliers for Ben Wallace, Sasha Pavlovic, a 2009 second round pick (46th overall) and $500,000.

by Gorilla Game on Jun 24, 2009 10:45 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

yep

just came here to say the same thing

by KnowGood on Jun 24, 2009 10:48 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

The pick

meaning #14?
Doesn’t this make it more likely that they trade it to get back their unprotected pick from next year?

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 24, 2009 10:49 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Correct

My bad I meant to say “trading” the pick back for next years.

by runningdonut on Jun 24, 2009 10:55 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

That

seems like the most likely scenario now.

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 24, 2009 10:56 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

Does this mean they draft BJ Mullens?

April 29, 2008 Total Eclipse of the Sun. Is the sky falling?

by Hawk42 on Jun 24, 2009 10:46 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I mean was Cleveland really the best trade partner out there?

Or did Stern call Sarver and explain that he really needs this trade to happen, so we can have a good story line for next years Lebron/Shaq vs Kobe/Gasol finals?

by Funky Flapsack on Jun 24, 2009 10:50 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

re: shaq trade

So in the frist attempt at rebuilding the team they trade shaq for financial reasons? Unless there is a free agent they are after why not save his expiring money for the big free agent frenzy the next year. How does this make them a better team?

by RGreyslak on Jun 24, 2009 10:50 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Yep

Not quite sure why they need the cap space if they’re going to rebuild. Maybe they go after someone like David Lee or (gulp) Paul Millsap?

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 24, 2009 10:57 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

absolutely

Nash wants to stay and the only way he’ll sign an extension is if he can keep the R&G. Shaq did his thing for us, but that was his thing he did, and we need to do our thing…and our thing is to play faster and more offensively efficient than you.

So this basically says Amare is staying as well?
Can we still try to move JRich please? Find a mid-level but solid defender and rebounder and a young PG for him?

by KnowGood on Jun 24, 2009 10:57 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

It makes us worse

And in all likelihood, we trade Nash and Amare. After that, the next step is to do the OKC trade. Then we can ensure next year that we will have what will sure to be a lottery pick

by Funky Flapsack on Jun 24, 2009 10:54 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Only the Cavs wanted Shaq?

I’m curious why another team couldn’t beat this deal. I think this confirms the Suns did it for financial reasons only.

by runningdonut on Jun 24, 2009 10:59 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I bet that Nash wanted Shaq gone.

Having Shaq just exposes Nash more for what he lacks. It was obvious that those two cannot play together, oil and water. I really think that the Suns FO wanted too much for Stat. His market value is low and Nash is not on the moving block period.

by Gorilla Game on Jun 24, 2009 10:56 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

So, as it currently stands, we have 4 draft picks right…

  1. and 3 second-rounders, right?

by ArizonaCactus on Jun 24, 2009 10:58 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Whats expected from this trade?

Are we really expecting Big Ben to retire and take a buyout? Whats the plan with Sasha? I feel like this is really just a precursor trade. Its setting up money and space for another move. Is this just wishful thinking?

I really wouldnt mind Wallace not retiring and bringing his toughness to our team. I think he’d do good things in his final days; passing on the wisdom type. Imagine Ben’s mind and attitude rubbing off and sticking to Amare. Dude will become indestructable!

by KnowGood on Jun 24, 2009 11:05 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

re;

big ben is a joke now, the suns should pray that he retires or requests a buy out for that salary. worse than Shaq

by RGreyslak on Jun 24, 2009 11:07 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Welp here we go. I honestly think we should just concede and get over the patch work we have been doing these past years. This is obviously the first move towards that. I love nash to death but he needs to be next. We are so afraid to lose him, but we all know that there is no move out there that is going to bring us a championship next year. Dont give him an extension, trade him while he has value. Lets get our pick back for OKC too

No day but today

by RyanMarcus on Jun 24, 2009 11:06 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

This is the final run

We’re gonna put the pedal all the way to the floor and go as fast as we can and use up every bit of gas we have left in the tank. If we dont reach the finish line then we have to just wait for the next race after we tinker with our car. Do you (or anyone) really think that any trades we do this season will result in a championship or even making it relatively deep into the playoffs? I think our best bet right now is to give it all we got with what we got. Go for broke.

by KnowGood on Jun 24, 2009 11:20 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Going all for broke......

It’ll be a good time to sign Nash to a big 1-year contract and not a multiple year deal that will tie up money during rebuilding.

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by blzrfan on Jun 24, 2009 11:30 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just curious

if you’re going back to the run-and-gun (or shoot, I guess), AK seems like he’d fit the squad.

Any chance the Suns try to trade for him?

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by UtesFan89 on Jun 24, 2009 11:23 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Can we start a new poll for a new trade

something like Who (if anyone) should be traded next? Or what other team has players that dont fit but would fit with us? I dont know. I feel like this trade was just the start of something else.

by KnowGood on Jun 24, 2009 11:30 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I would agree.

I guess we will have to wait and see what happens tomorrow if anything. This seems like part one of something else.

by Gorilla Game on Jun 24, 2009 11:46 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Next move

Fire Kerr. This move admits he screwed up. We can’t have the GM doing such stupid moves. Before you all start piling on, tell me that Griffin will do worse? We can’t take a chance, or else you guys are gonna be watching ping pong balls for the next ten years.

Kerr has less brains than Brian Bozworth.

April 29, 2008 Total Eclipse of the Sun. Is the sky falling?

by Hawk42 on Jun 24, 2009 11:51 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

And if the OKC trade goes down

then that’s 2 Kerr moves that he is taking back essentially. Problem is, now we have nothing to show for it

by Funky Flapsack on Jun 25, 2009 12:39 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

kerr hasent learned his lesson..everytime we trade a player or draft pick we never get the better of it..just keep the pick and by another one..Jennings can be good when nash is gone and earl clark can be a good pick..take a chance on them two..both wont kill our payroll..the 14th pick get 1.4 million thats just a little more than the vets min..and if we get another pick 18..it will be less than the l.4..

by Lebrontophx2010 on Jun 25, 2009 12:45 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Letter to Jerry Colangelo

Robert Sarver
Owner, Phoenix Suns Basketball Team
Phoenix, Arizona

Dear Jerry

I am very upset. I want to throw things. My basketball team that YOU sold me doesn’t go zoom-zoom anymore. YOU said it would practically run itself. You agreed with your buddy Jerry Jones that I could find 500 people to run it and they would still be fun. How would I know that I found the 501st guy? I want my money back. All these fans do is yell at me. I wave my big purple finger in support of the team, and everybody just waves their finger back at me. This team is more trouble that it is worth. And now my wife says I should start counting ping pong balls. I did my best to be a generous owner. I did not think those other GMs had enough draft picks. I gave the pogo stick man a busload of money, but he keeps getting hurt and won’t play defense. Now the little guy who won those two trophies is telling me what to do. I told my GM to draft a big man, and he came back with Bozo the clown. Man, I didn’t know Bozo was seven feet tall! Me and my GM were at the hotel, and I had a lot of luggage, and I told him to go get a porter. How was I to know he was going to let him coach!
Now we missed the playoffs, and all I see when I lay down to sleep is those ping pong balls. Can you give me my $400 million back?
Your friend,
Robert

April 29, 2008 Total Eclipse of the Sun. Is the sky falling?

by Hawk42 on Jun 25, 2009 12:54 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Love it

LOL very funny, but also probably extreamly accurate portrayal of Mr Sarver’s thoughts.

by nash-n-burn on Jun 25, 2009 4:58 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

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