Suns in love and back for more heartache
The Suns have issues when it comes to the draft. I have been racking my brain trying to find the source of their problems and to me it comes down to the fact that they fall in love too easily. If this were a teen movie, they'd be the nerdy kid who is head-over-heels in love with the most popular girl in school even though his best friend is just as hot and somebody who he A) actually has a chance with and B) could actually get along with. I have come to this conclusion after going back and reading excuse after excuse for their mistakes in the past 4 (5 if you include last night) drafts.
The Suns always try and convince us that they got the guy they were hoping for...why? Because they find a guy that they like and put the blinders on. It doesn't matter that the perfect girl who not only knows how to make them happy but who could allow them to continue to be themselves is there batting her eyes with her top two buttons undone just hoping that they look at her. Originally this post was going to be a running diary of last night's draft as experienced by my buddy Jermaine and me at the Suns "Twaft" party...but I'm too fired up so let's get straight to the point.

With the 14th pick the Suns selected Earl Clark.
From the first mock drafts everybody had the Suns taking Clark here. Didn't matter who else was on the board, the Suns were in love. The only conclusion I can come to is that this draft was all about Kerr trying to make up for the Marion/Shaq trade.
We all know about the trade to get Shaq the hell out of here and judging by the comments that they made the Suns brass see Clark as a Marion type who is a SF but who can play PF while being able to guard multiple positions on the floor.
Suns fans, Kerr is sorry for effing everything we had going for us up with the trade that brought over the Big Ego. The problem with this pick...the Suns are full of wing players! We had two major needs - a C who is long, athletic and can stay out of Amare's way and a backup PG who can be our PG of the future.
Even if you think Dragic can become a serviceable backup (which I still highly doubt), we need a PG who can step in when Steve Nash is gone. The Suns left multiple PGs who could fill this need for us on the board to take a player that doesn't really do anything for us that we aren't getting elsewhere. Jrue Holiday, Ty Lawson, Jeff Teague, Darren Collison and Eric Maynor were all on the board.
I'm not going to lie to you, I WANTED JRUE HOLIDAY. Holiday is a long 6'4" G who played at UCLA. He played off the ball in a system that wasn't really designed to showcase the immense talent that this guy possesses. Remember Russell Westbrook? Jrue Holiday was this year's Russell Westbrook only taller with better defensive tendencies. Holiday was there for the taking but again, the Suns had fallen in love and were not about to change course just because a "better" option was available. My exact notes from right after the Suns made the pick..."Earl Clark with Holiday on the board! Kerr is a dumb ass - HOLIDAY WAS ON THE BOARD!"
Now as you read this you might be saying something to the effect of "well the Suns are planning on trading for Curry anyway, so the pick wasn't so much about who fits now but who'll fit when Curry gets here and Amare's gone." Have you ever heard of the term "have your cake and eat it too?" They could've had a PG of the future in Holiday (basically what Curry would be - each has a lot of upside Curry's probably a bit more of a sure thing - not by much though) and kept Amare!
Plus, with all of the complications involved in that trade, there is definitely no guarantee that it's going to happen so why not take the PG anyway? Worst case scenario is you have two very talented guards who can each spend time at the 2 spot!
You also have to realize that if the Amare trade goes down and sends the Suns down into mediocrity, nothing is going to be here that'll make Steve Nash want to stick around and we'll need another PG anyway! My point is, this was a draft that although it wasn't a great draft talent wise, was stacked with quality PGs - a position the Suns need to patch up and they decided to swing for the fences to bring in a wing - a position the Suns have pretty well covered. Don't get me wrong, I think Clark has a lot of talent, I just think that there were better options for this Suns team available at 14.
While we're on the subject of Clark (a player who some feel is a top "talent" in this draft class), there are two things that worry me about him as a pro. First, he's compared to Lamar Odom and Tim Thomas. Those two players have the "talent" to be All-Stars in the L but lack what it takes to be great and live up to their talent. Both have great years here and there (basically anytime their contract is up) but fail to do it year in and year out. Clark seems to fit the mold and that isn't a good thing...well, at least until his rookie contract is coming to an end.
Second, he played at Louisville under Rick Pitino. Historically, players who seemed great under Pitino at Louisville have ultimately led to disappointment. I don't know what it is but for some reason his players games don't translate to the NBA - maybe that's why he's better suited to coach in the NCAA.
"With the 48th pick in the 2009 NBA Draft, the Phoenix Suns select...Taylor Griffin!" What the hell! What the hell, what the hell, WHAT THE HELL! Taylor effing Griffin. Taylor "nobody would know my name if it weren't for my brother who got all of the talent in the family" Griffin. Taylor "Maybe I'll become my brother's agent when I don't get drafted" Griffin. Taylor...tired yet? I've got a million...just one more...last one I promise...Taylor "I don't have a single skill that translates to the NBA game" Griffin.
Look, I understand it's the second round and you're basically just taking a shot and hoping for the best, I understand that. But still, Taylor Griffin is another player that doesn't fill a single need for the Suns. On the board were Patrick Mills (who played great last year for the Australian olympic team), Jack McClinton (who was a solid college PG) and AJ Price (a long shot to do much in the pros, but I would guess he could challenge Dragic for the backup PG minutes). Yet the Suns took Taylor "Hey, I used to beat Blake at 1-on-1 when we were kids" Griffin. Sorry, I couldn't resist.
Now, I'm sure the Suns will be quick to tell you that Earl Clark is going to fill multiple positions for them, or that he'll bring up the defensive intensity or that Earl Clark and Blake Griffin pulled a "Face/Off" and each is secretly the other because Griffin couldn't bare the thought of playing for the Clips and Clark wanted to know what it feels like to be #1.
And I'm sure they'll try and convince you that Taylor Griffin was higher on their board than his brother Blake or that he completely dominated the still chair during workouts. But the simple truth is that the Suns are just a bunch of hopeless romantics looking for the fairytale ending where they go home with the prom queen but repeatedly ending up with nothing more than heartbreak and a slap in the face as they stand alone in the dance floor watching Rondo, Deng, Fernandez, Garcia, Robinson and now Holiday dancing happily around them.
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clark could be a massive bust
or he could be fantastic
time will tell
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
by rsavaj on Jun 26, 2009 2:40 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
lol
way to cover your bases
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
by SunDolphin on Jun 26, 2009 9:23 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
i do my best :)
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
by rsavaj on Jun 26, 2009 9:34 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Clark, Taylor Griffin was a joke though, you have got to be kidding me. Patrick Mills was the obvious choice.
No day but today
by RyanMarcus on Jun 26, 2009 2:43 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
hah - well said watdogg
Who are these guys again?
by ZonaFlash on Jun 26, 2009 2:43 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Terrance Williams had the Barbie backpack not Clark
No day but today
by RyanMarcus on Jun 26, 2009 3:06 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I messed that up...
I removed it though.
by watdogg10 on Jun 26, 2009 3:10 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone see this...
I know it’s useless, but I think it’s interesting in a funny ha ha way that we drafted a player that the Globetrotters thought would be awesome for them…
by ArizonaCactus on Jun 26, 2009 3:08 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
what happens if he gets relegated to the Globetrotters D-League affiliate in Washington?
Mmmmm ... Guinness
by JSun on Jun 26, 2009 3:16 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
a steady paycheck?
Who are these guys again?
by ZonaFlash on Jun 26, 2009 3:23 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe I should start a Globetrotter Upside blog.
by ArizonaCactus on Jun 26, 2009 3:26 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
=D at least you'd win a lot more
Who are these guys again?
by ZonaFlash on Jun 26, 2009 3:34 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
I pretty much agree with this analysis. Get a good PG in in a PG-heavy draft and stay away from a player heralded as the next Time Thomas. Hard to argue with that.
Mmmmm ... Guinness
by JSun on Jun 26, 2009 3:33 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Patrick Mills wtf!!! You gotta draft him
No day but today
by RyanMarcus on Jun 26, 2009 3:35 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
you guys should listen to steve kerr right now on ktar talking about taylor griffin.
“well he is versatile 6 8 230” wtf!! so is every other wing player!!
No day but today
by RyanMarcus on Jun 26, 2009 3:36 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Great rant post.
Those were exactly my thoughts as the draft unfolded. In a draft filled with great PGs, we took a player that DraftExpress compares to Marvin Williams as best case scenario. Not to mention Taylor Griffin, who didn’t even have a profile on most draft websites. Preldzic at #57 was a good choice for a change, but they sold him.
by troglodytes on Jun 26, 2009 3:41 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Well...well, said
Great job making your point and for those that don’t know Mr Wattdogg came to our attention after starting the Cut Goran Dragic blog so he’s got some history here :)
As for your points, I am going to pass on commenting on Taylor b/c I am totally unqualified to judge 2nd round picks in that I never watch college ball. That of course also precludes me from really predicting if Holiday will be the better player then Clark (something that we have to give two or three years to decided on – as is the case with all rookies).
What I can talk about are the Suns needs and I don’t agree that we have a lot of wing players. What we have are a couple of decent back up wing players. Jared is a nice player and a great guy but he will never (should never) be a starter on a good team. He’s not athletic enough to play the 3 and not big enough to play the four. He makes up for it with energy and hustle and he can shoot a bit too. I love him. He’s not a future starter.
Amundson is the inverse of Dudley. If you could put Dudley’s brains and shooting ability into Amundson’s athletic body you would have an all-star. I am pretty sure Aaron Nelson can’t do that though so…another back up PF. A good back up but a back up.
Clark has the skill set to be a starter at the 3 or 4 and given that our only other wing player is Grant Almost over the Hill it is a good pick from a need perspective AND he can play defense. You are right that he’s a mulligan on Marion but Shawn wasn’t going to stay anyway. He wanted too much money and very well could have opted out the year we traded him. Almost everyone was happy to see him traded (myself excluded) so it’s not fair to put it all on Kerr for moving him and certainly not fair for getting a guy that potentially could replace him.
As for the point guard spot, yes – we are going to need a starting PG. You and I differ on Dragic in that I am higher on him then you are (or at least more patient) but I agree that he is not likely a starter any time soon and by that I mean 5 yrs. Point guards though take time to develop with the rare exceptions we’ve seen at the top of the draft.
The Suns seem hell bent on getting Curry and they clearly had that worked out before drafting Clark. A gamble? Certainly and I would have been happy with Holiday as well but don’t forget that we also have Leandro on this roster for two more years. He is improving every year and can also fill that combo guard role and he is much more NBA ready then Holiday (goes without saying).
So once again I am going to preach patience. Let’s see how this all plays out.
The Suns were headed down hill when they brought in Shaq. Now he’s gone and we will see what happens with Amare and Nash.
Oh, as for Amare you forget that it’s not as simple as keeping him or not keeping him. It comes down to extending him for a big contract or letting him walk for nothing. Having seen this 27 year old for 7 yrs now I think it is fair to say that the potential has been reached. He will have a few more good seasons offensively but he is not a guy I want to see the Suns commit to long term. I really think he will end up like Vince Carter or T-Mac in 3 – 5 yrs. Over paid and under producing as a team leader.
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by Phoenix Stan on Jun 26, 2009 7:52 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
patty mills
This bloke was Australia’s best player by far in the olympics. He burnt chris paul to get into the paint numerous times for god sake! yes he’s skinny but an off season in the gym will fix that and he has speed to burn… you cant teach that.
i don’t know anything about brother Griffin but as an Aussie and avid suns fan my heart broke when the suns didn/t pick Mills! Maybe he would of been a layby purchase, where we give him a couple of years to develop ( which we don’t really have i know) but if you asked most Aussies that knew basketball they would say that he is, (or has the potential to be) Australia’s best player…
by sad97 on Jun 27, 2009 2:27 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I can actually feel your emotion when I read that. You won me over. Griffin was a bad choice when Mills was there, even if we do already have way too many guards, and possibly may be getting more. I’m just going to hold to the thought that the Suns would have sold Mills for cash considerations or some shit like that. Shoot.
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
by SunDolphin on Jun 27, 2009 6:19 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

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