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Amare Trade Rumor Analysis w/ Golden State Warriors

The Amare Stoudemire trade rumors are in full swing as a result of the reported pending deal during the coverage of the 2009 NBA Draft on ESPN. The deal involves sending Amare Stoudemire to the Golden State Warriors in exchange for essentially Andris Beidrins and the #7 pick of the draft, Stephen Curry. Brandan Wright, Marco Belinelli and Kelena Azuibuke have also been mentioned as part of the deal.

The core of the rumor suggests the Phoenix Suns are primarily interested in bringing Andris Biedrins and Stephen Curry over to the team. There seems to be crowds on both sides of the fence regarding this deal and rightfully so. But the fact of the matter is Amare needs to be traded and Both teams should be happy to make this deal on July 8th (the earlierst date this deal can be made).

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Why the Suns Like This Deal

Amare Stoudemire has been the building block of the Phoenix Suns for recent years. He's an All-Star that can dominate the game offensively and does so efficiently. In Amare's best 2 offensive games last season he scored 42 points on 20 shots and 49 points on just 21 shots. In his worst 2 offensive games last year he scored 3 points on 0-7 shooting and 11 points on 13 shots. I'm leaving out the time he scored just 8 points because he did it in 11 minutes on just 6 shots.

The point is that Amare is instant offense and even on his worst nights the number of shots he takes is limited which allows for the other players to adjust and give the rest of the team an opportunity at better shot selection. This is something the Warriors need, not the Suns.

I don't know if the rest of you remember a guy by the name of Tim Thomas. Yeah. He used to be considered the cancer of the Bulls until he came to Phoenix where Steve Nash put him in the spotlight just long enough to bait the Clippers into paying him a bloated salary Phoenix wasn't about to match. Steve Nash tends to do that. He's the choreographer of the offensive madness that goes on during games.

Phoenix can score. We saw that last year after Amare got injured so why keep him? Will the team miss his defense? Will the team get frustrated watching him go up against the pick and roll? With Amare losing interest in the Suns, we either get what we can out of him while he is still valuable or watch him leave for nothing. Amare wants to extend his deal with a max contract and that goes against the interest of the Suns.

With Shaq gone, we either hope we can trade Ben Wallace for Tyson Chandler or pull the trigger on this deal and bring in Andris Biedrins. With Tyson Chandler our best bet is for him to avoid his injury issues and turn his game around to average the numbers he used to have which, by the way, Andreis Biedrins already does.

Andris Biedrins brings in a young, under the radar center that is an absolute beast on the boards. Last year he averaged over 11 rebounds a game and throughout his career shoots over 60%. That's exactly what you want your center to do and that's precisely the void we fill as a result of sending Shaq to the Cavaliers.

As an added bonus to the deal, the possibility of bringing over Stephen Curry makes the decision on the Suns end fairly easy. Granted, Stephen Curry wasn't on the best of college teams but whenever he did go up against some of the bigger forces in college, he stepped up his game and played to their level. As far as sheer amount of talent coming out of the draft, many feel he is top 2 and Dickie V feels he'll win rookie of the year. I don't know I'd go that far but the excitement of bringing over a future star in Curry as well as filling a desperately needed hole in exchange for Amare is the best possible deal for the Suns at this point in time.

Why the Warriors Like This Deal

Even Golden State Warriors fans love the Amare Stoudemire rumor. Despite the excitement of bringing over a guard to potentially replace Monta Ellis, Curry is still a project. That's just the way the draft works in the NBA. Some guys just don't pan out like they were supposed to. That's the reason why Michael Jordan wasn't picked first in the draft and Kwame Brown was.

The Golden State Warriors need to shake things up and turn their team around now. They need to start heading in the right direction and start working with pieces that will give them the best opportunity to win right now. You can hope for draft picks to singlehandedly turn your team around at some point in the future but it's not something in which you should rely. You don't know how that pick is going to turn out and you don't know if they will even re-sign by the time they are good enough.

As long as the Warriors are willing to extend Amare's contract and pay him what he wants, he can be the guy the Warriors depend on to get them back on track to the playoffs.

Why Both Teams Like This Deal

Obviously Phoenix minimizes the risk of having Amare leave in 2010 for a team in a better position to pay him what he wants. They fill starting center spot and are not forced on relying on Robin Lopez to start at the center position which gives him more time to develop as a player. The Suns allow more room at the 3 and 4 position to develop the young talent they already have as well as rely on Steve Nash to get the most amount of offense as possible. This also allows for more defensive aware players to get more minutes which is something that Alvin Gentry has hoped to obtain. The Suns would also receive a potential future stud to increase their success in the long term without jepeordizing much success in the short term.

This trade allows Golden State to fulfil their need of getting back on track and heading in the right direction toward the ultimate goal. When the ultimate goal is always a championship for the team, sometimes you need to focus on heading in the right direction now instead of potentially heading in the right direction in the future. The Warriors also minimize loss because relying on a #7 draft pick to be their future star is not only questionable but only buys hope. Instead of relying on hope, sometimes it's best to guarantee success.

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Both Teams Benefit Equally
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Trade Nash for Curry and Biedrins.

Nelson would do it because it’s Steph Curry already developed. They can buy out Law and Claxton and sign a reliable 5. Phoenix would do it because they love Steph Curry. I would do it if I were Steve Kerr, because, well, I love Steph Curry as a player.

by hookedonphoenix on Jun 27, 2009 7:36 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I’ve been thinking “Why not throw Nash into the mix” too and I think what you said should be fair game. Is Nash/Amare too much? Or just Nash? Who has more value and how much is their value together?

Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.

by SunDolphin on Jun 27, 2009 8:51 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s very dynamic right now, all of the rumors and speculation and possibilities.

Question: Is it more important to get Curry to Phoenix, or for him to learn from Nash if he ends up here?

Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.

by SunDolphin on Jun 27, 2009 10:00 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL! YOU'RE SO FUNNY!

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Jun 27, 2009 12:32 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sacrilege I know, it pains me to write..

but Nash is getting older and his value is going down – I would not like the trade if we had to give up Nash, but I would still do it. We need youth and to rebuild – that means youth and talent – and if we have a great offer for Nash, I think the franchise owes it to itself to seize the opportunity.

by egp the great on Jun 27, 2009 2:49 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nash

One possible problem with trading Nash is the team that Phoenix would be sending him to would seemingly want to extend his deal. Since he’s made it known that he’d like to play for D’Antoni and the Knicks, I wonder if he’d be willing to sign an extension with a team that isn’t Phoenix or New York.

by J Trull on Jun 27, 2009 2:56 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly

I don’t HATE Nash, but I don’t drink his koolaid anymore becuase he is getting to the end of his career. What’s more important, Nash for another year or two, dwindling, or a guy who could be with us for the next 10-15 and be as good (dare I say better?). These are the decisions that hurt but must be made.

The Braves had to let both John Smoltz and Tom Glavine go this past year, and both of those guys, in terms of greatness in their respective sport, are twice as good as Nash could have ever been. But the Braves made the decision and it worked. Hold on too long and you sink with the ship.

Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.

by SunDolphin on Jun 27, 2009 3:43 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dont much like that comparison

Nash is right up there with pretty much everybody in my book, but my point exactly. I would like Nash to win a championship though – even if it is not with us.

by egp the great on Jun 27, 2009 4:07 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not saying he isn't great...

I wrote a long post and deleted it to say this: Nash can still play, Smoltz and Glavine can’t, I understand where you’re coming from.

Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.

by SunDolphin on Jun 27, 2009 9:35 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh wow this was meant in response to robbin down below

what with his “you don’t get anyone LOL”

misunderstanding, i wouldn’t pull out the sarcastic “LOL” on you my man

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Jun 27, 2009 3:03 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for clearing that up, I was confused!

Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.

by SunDolphin on Jun 27, 2009 3:44 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Curry by himself here wouldn't work out well imo

He needs a mentor. We can rebuild like crazy and just throw out anyone over 26-27, but there needs to be a stabilizing vet on the team, a guiding force, and i hope Nash/Hill stick around.

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Jun 27, 2009 12:31 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

So do I,

but should we compromise rebuilding to keep them? I am not so sure.

by egp the great on Jun 27, 2009 2:50 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think that is true and false

Who did Nash have as a mentor? And Curry is a smart kid. Not all of the great or average players had mentors and sometimes the entire mentor thing is overrated to begin with. How do you know Nash wants to be a mentor, or is mature enough to do so, and how do we know Curry is the type of guy to take to a mentor? Not everyone likes the opportunity to have help and to be that help.

I’m not disagreeing, just putting ideas out there. I don’t think it’s the end of the world if Nash and Hill go and leave our young players with no one to help them, but I don’t think it hurts if they stay either.

Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.

by SunDolphin on Jun 27, 2009 3:48 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nash had Kidd and KJ :) !

Greatest PG platoon in league history

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Jun 27, 2009 5:02 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah man!

i’ll try to dig up some old box scores but we’d roll out a 3 PG lineup sometimes

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Jun 27, 2009 5:54 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

That would've been a team to see

Probably what Minnesota was gunning for in the draft this year

by egp the great on Jun 27, 2009 6:22 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kevin Johnson?

Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.

by SunDolphin on Jun 27, 2009 9:28 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL! YOU'RE SO FUNNY!

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Jun 27, 2009 12:32 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

ignore this

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Jun 27, 2009 3:01 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Keep amare add Tyson Chandler to make up for amare defensive abilities the same way we’re going to get somebody to make up for nash’s inabilities..the warriors arent going to send curry and without him we’ll have no scoring..lets trade j-rich..

by Lebrontophx2010 on Jun 27, 2009 8:29 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

tht would be ideal

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Jun 27, 2009 12:31 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

The other possibility I forgot to mention was if instead of Stephen Curry, the Warriors added Anthony Randolph in the deal. While writing this article I saw the Nelly quote saying Curry was going to stay with the Warriors but didn’t put much credit to it seeing as how it’s not exactly his decision.

by binarybasketball on Jun 27, 2009 9:00 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Just wondering

Who would we rather have – Randolph or Curry?
Curry is a lights-out shooter, high iq, smallish guard. Randolph is a tall, versatile, THIN, forward with a lot of upside. Didn’t we just draft one of those?
Now I love both, Randolph really has physical tools and skills, lots of potential, but 7.9 pts, 5.8 rebounds, .8 assists – decent but not great for a rookie. I think that Curry has the potential to far exceed that on a regular basis, with a similar room for improvement as Randolph.
I would be thrilled with either however, especially as there would be a substantial lack of a starting pf if the trade went down, but others thoughts?

by egp the great on Jun 27, 2009 9:51 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Since I see Curry as POTENTIALLY the next Reggie Miller, I’d much rather have Curry. Guys like Randolph are everywhere. If Randolph is what we want, then we might as well keep Amare.

Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.

by SunDolphin on Jun 27, 2009 10:02 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Potential is to vague

Randolph could be the next KG, Curry the next Miller. Who knows?

by egp the great on Jun 27, 2009 10:08 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

hahaha

Randolph over Curry anyday anyhour anysecond -bigs always are more valuable
This all from rookie season -blame Nellie for not playing him and also check stats per 36

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by Lat We N Trash on Jun 27, 2009 10:11 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Buddy, Jordon was a basketball player, not a golfer

Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.

by SunDolphin on Jun 27, 2009 3:49 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes i've heard

Phil Jordon in 58-59 was putting up pretty good numbers

PS -MJ comparisments always are way off reality -because he was and still is exception

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by Lat We N Trash on Jun 27, 2009 4:53 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

your funny if you think GSW is giving up AR or Curry.

Mnay think AR will be better than Amare all by himself. Nice try! But GSW is not Memphis.

by Dungeness Crab Dribble on Jun 27, 2009 3:48 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

And many at GSoM think that Amare is better than AR all by himself

Duh. AR may become better than Amare, but he’s a long, long, LOOOOONNNNG way aways from doing that. He also may become better than Mike Jordan, KG, and Magic combined winning 17 consecutive championships and MVP awards…

Members of BSoS, move along, nothing to see here.

You have been DFiBrillated.

by Dubs fan in Boston on Jun 29, 2009 2:07 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

You get

Neither. LOL!

by robbin on Jun 27, 2009 11:26 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

insert "you're so funny" here

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Jun 27, 2009 3:02 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Curry/Randolph

Randolph is a freak of nature, the guy has grown to 7’ and has put on 20 pounds of muscle:

His handles are that of a 6’ point guard, his speed is faster than a gazelle, his rebounds with blinding speed, and he’s got an outside shot, he was in Nellie’s dog house last year and played sporadic min so his stats don’t tell the story: There is no one in the league like this guy physically and maybe never has been, I think back to Ralph Sampson but AR is more athletic:

However, I think Curry will be a superstar in the league right away: and to have him tutored under Nash would be a dream situation, his game is tailored made for the NBA, his ranger is Miller like and his passing is picture perfect, he’s only 18 and says he’s still growing, I see him at 6’4 to 6’5, his brother is going to paly for Duke next year and he’s a bit bigger I believe:

He carried his College team on his back last year and showed amazing leadership qualities, I think he’s a no brainer, and how he slipped to th 7th pick is unreal, many had him on the board as the #2 pick: the looks skinny but is deceptively strong, he said yesterday that he was going to add some muscle now that he’s entering the NBA.

I think AB and SC alone for Amare would be a steal for the Suns, but the GSW have a history of giving away future stars in bad trades so I wouldn’t be surprised to see them let him go:

by ForestGrump on Jun 27, 2009 12:33 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Ok here is what I don't get

The Warriors wanna keep two guys (Curry and Randolph) who to them are young franchise players supposedly. But Randolph never had consistent minutes and I’m gonna assume the same will happen with Curry. It just seems like they wanna keep these two just for the sake of saying they have them on their team and nothing else. They’re sticking to their well established guns, which I’ll admit they should do, but you still have to give the young guys more of a chance to prove themselves. It just sounds like a waste of some major talent

by Batmanthesunsfan on Jun 27, 2009 1:13 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Randolph

had a tough time last season facing the fact that you’ve got to work hard to get on the court in NBA and Nellie as a coach is not a birthsdays present -at least for rookie with a cocky attitude

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by Lat We N Trash on Jun 27, 2009 1:26 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds like superman

Handles of a point guard, speed of a gazelle, leaps skyscrapers in a single bound, rebounds with blinding speed…..

by egp the great on Jun 27, 2009 2:52 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

And...

He EATS lightning, and CRAPS thunder!!!

"I'm gonna make you cry...I'm gonna make you cry and dip my cookie in your tears!!!"

by mutleyil on Jun 27, 2009 4:37 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Naw...

He eats galaxies and craps supernovas. Get your “Anthony Randolph facts” straight!

You have been DFiBrillated.

by Dubs fan in Boston on Jun 29, 2009 2:09 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Randolph

It was painful for the rookie but needed, because he was very cocky:

I lived for years in the Vally of the Sun and also in Northern Ca: so the GSW and Suns are the teams I root for:

I think the only reason the Dubs would trade AB and SC ,BW etc is to change the face of the franchise, Is it a good move for Golden state or one of desperation since they dissembled the we believe team two years ago?

It could be out of desperation and that’s never a good way to enter into trade talks, they just gave AH away last year for a guy they gave away this year, they have a history of making bone head moves:

As a Warriors fan I would love to give Amare a shot at showing he cam take a team to the finals, but he is a bit of a risk, he’s had some hard luck and has had a lot to overcome physically, but for the right price GS will take the chance:

if SC is in the trade the Sons might ask for BW, KA, and MB and leave AB at home: I think that would work:

What do you guys think?

by ForestGrump on Jun 27, 2009 1:57 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Amare:

Forget it, that would not work salary wise:

by ForestGrump on Jun 27, 2009 1:59 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Thats funny that everyone believes that the Warriors were gonna

give up 5 good players for one Amare. Rumors are just that but in reality the Warriors are not going to give up more than Biedrins, Bellinelli and Wright. Its a take ot or leave it and quite franklyNO other team will give up more for an aging, complaining, damaged, PF that is getting close to past his prime. If I was Kerr I would take it and get on with rebuilding this team afetr all he has ZERO leverage in trading Amare.

by Dungeness Crab Dribble on Jun 27, 2009 3:45 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Yesterday in fornt of the whole world Nelson said that Curry was not going anywhere

and that he coudl relax and go out and buy a house. What is it you guys didn;t understand. Also this just in… Randolph is untouchable.

by Dungeness Crab Dribble on Jun 27, 2009 3:50 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Did it ever occur to you that...

Nelson is just lying? You think he is openly gonna admit using curry in a trade? He’s not that stupid (or is he?). You warrior fans are so trusting….

by Batmanthesunsfan on Jun 27, 2009 4:10 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Okay, I wanted to comment Dungeness before I left for work but didn’t, and now reading you Batman, I want to say:

I’ve heard Nelly isn’t all there and from what I’ve heard should I trust ANYTHING he says? Even the AVERAGE GM/coach cannot be taken at face value, no matter how forceful their words are.

I’m not saying he was or was not telling the truth, but I am not gonna listen to what the coaches/gms say, I’m gonna listen to what comes out Wednesday.

Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.

by SunDolphin on Jun 27, 2009 9:39 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're a very smart man SunDolphin.

I’ll admit too that i’ve been kinda stubborn and forcing myself to believe what GMs and writers and whoever else has said. It’s all speculation and we won’t have anything definitive until FA period starts or whenever Beidrins contract allows it.

by Batmanthesunsfan on Jun 27, 2009 9:44 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nellie is notoriously flippant with the media

He says whatever he wants whenever he wants. He’ll say things like “There’s no way we’re making the playoffs” (only to see his team go 16-5, make the playoffs, and upset the Mavs). He’ll say things like “Hey, Jordan Hill, there’s no way we’re not drafting you if you’re there at #7”, and then not pick them. He’ll also drink crappy beer, smoke cigars, and dream of Maui…
So yeah, he’s “not all there” and you should take your heaping boulder of salt with a grain of whatever spews forth from Nellie’s mouth.

You have been DFiBrillated.

by Dubs fan in Boston on Jun 29, 2009 2:13 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

We get the Randolph thing

Few people were considering this a real possibility. I was merely discussing the merits of the individual players. And if you believe (or respect) Nelson at all times, you are a far more trusting man than me

by egp the great on Jun 27, 2009 4:11 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

would there be any way...

we could package amare to get randolph, curry, wright and bierdens?? they are all young and have massive upsides! would it be stupid to suggest barbosa and amare? or amare and nash. i know the salaries are huge on amare and nash but how could we make it work?? and would the warriors even consider a massive blow up like that??

by sad97 on Jun 27, 2009 5:07 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

would there be any way...

there absolute is no way this happening -you’re dreaming about a robbery
what would be W’s frontcourt like -amare Turiaf and left thumb of Don Nelson???

30 Y 197 cm 115 kg 0 IQ

by Lat We N Trash on Jun 27, 2009 5:13 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Don't you get it?

Amar’e or not you aren’t gonna be able to compete for a title. With Amar’e there is a better chance of the Warriors getting to the playoffs. What everyone needs to learn is championship teams aren’t made in a day (except 07-08 Boston which is the closest thing) Neither Suns or Warriors have the pieces to become a contender anytime soon. this swap is good for both. I still love Amar’e and would like him to stay but I’ve embraced this is most likely gonna happen

by Batmanthesunsfan on Jun 27, 2009 5:18 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

my comment was response to sad97

but what’s about

Amar’e or not you aren’t gonna be able to compete for a title. With Amar’e there is a better chance of the Warriors getting to the playoffs

i agree with it and i think this deal is about Nelson as HOF member (that’s about his coach record -prolly longshot but i’d still bet on it) +full seats in Oracle

-actually my point here was -there is no way W’s would give away AB AR BR + Curry for amare + Nash or even more amare + Barbosa

30 Y 197 cm 115 kg 0 IQ

by Lat We N Trash on Jun 27, 2009 5:34 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you, this is one of the first clear statements I have heard today.

Both teams are in transition, GSW has some pieces that can get them into the playoffs and the Suns are trying to get some pieces to get them back, by rebuilding with some young talent.

There are few truths when it comes to rumors and trade talks. But what we can agree on is that Curry is probably not going to help the Warriors get any better next year. GSW are guard HEAVY and need to unload. Sure Curry might be a player in this league, might not. Players don’t always pan out like they are supposed to sometimes. If you need evidence look at MJ or Kobe, where they number 1 picks? no. There is alot of parody in the NBA. And most drafts are a crap shoot, but I think GSW get significantly better with Amare next year, you trot out a line up of Ellis, Jackson, Randloph, Amare your going to give teams fits.

You can even go Super Nelli ball and put Amare at the 5 like he did with the suns in 2005 and have randolph play the 4.

What im really trying to say is that the trade would make both teams happy in the long run. Personally I love Amare but if the brain trust thinks we need to do this then fine ill roll with it as long as we have a vision.

No day but today

by RyanMarcus on Jun 27, 2009 5:43 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

randolph+amare=dual devastation

how can’t the dubs WANT that?

just give us curry and gtfo

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Jun 27, 2009 5:54 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

gtfo hahaha i love it

No day but today

by RyanMarcus on Jun 27, 2009 9:37 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

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