BREAKING NEWS: GRANT HILL STAYING AND MUCH MUCH MORE!
Wow. I certainly didn't expect that. ALso noted by Wojnarowski:
- Channing Frye close to signing
- Steve Nash close to extension.
Is Steve Kerr close to redeeming himself? Has he been reading BSOTS?
Read it for yourself!
[Note by Phoenix Stan, 07/10/09 12:55 PM MST ]
Gambo on twitter reports:
Channing Frye deal for 2 yrs and 1.9 each is expected to be done today. Suns likely done after this but could add one more when Pavlovic cut
and
Steve Nash and his agent will meet with Suns brass next week in Vegas to finalize a 2-year extension for 20 mill. He has 1 year left at 13.
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Nash, Frye, Hill
Sounds like they are standing pat to ride the season out to me. Now if we could just get Chandler, the season would not be totally lost, as much as I would prefer blowing it up at this point.
by egp the great on Jul 10, 2009 10:56 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Chandler isn't coming. Suns think he is seriously damaged goods.
by stampchez on Jul 10, 2009 11:17 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
shaq was damaged goods
and we traded our most versatile player for him.
by Aluminum Foyle on Jul 10, 2009 11:50 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shaq sure produced ...
For such a piece of damaged goods. I think Shaq’s “damage” was more mental. He just didn’t give a crap anymore in Miami.
by jburning on Jul 10, 2009 11:56 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
mentally yes...
but he was also physically damaged too, but got into better shape. if they could make the shaq/matrix trade, then the absolutely damaged ben wallace for the potentially hurt tyson chandler is not a bad deal.
by Aluminum Foyle on Jul 10, 2009 11:59 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
The difference w/ Tyson and Shaq...
Shaq had a temporary and normal injury and treatment and conditioning fixed.
If Chandler’s foot is really that bad he could be damaged goods for the long run. No amount of stretching and what not can fix structural damage.
I don’t know that’s the case but you have to think the Suns do
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by Phoenix Stan on Jul 10, 2009 12:16 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like it a lot. I have a feeling there is more to come as well in the next few weeks, although I doubt Tyson Chandler will be part of anything. I think Frye will fit in nice at the 5 on a team that likes to run.
Adrian W better have this right.
by Wil Cantrell on Jul 10, 2009 11:02 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
awoj is money… his track record this summer has been incredible
by Ben. on Jul 10, 2009 11:06 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can’t find anything else on this, so I’d qualify him is true INSIDER
by Wil Cantrell on Jul 10, 2009 11:07 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
as…you can tell I’m all in a fervor about this.
by Wil Cantrell on Jul 10, 2009 11:07 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now I feel like an total ass for my last comment
And I’ll thank kerr for that
by Batmanthesunsfan on Jul 10, 2009 11:01 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Anyways
Frye:Good pick up
Hill: All I can say is finally!
Nash: Please tell me his extension means more good things
by Batmanthesunsfan on Jul 10, 2009 11:19 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not bad...
If we can also get rid of J-Rich I’ll be quite satisfied
My body might be in Greece, but my mind and my heart is in Arizona. When the heck will I visit the Desert?
by Giannaros on Jul 10, 2009 11:13 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
J-Rich staying isn't the worst thing in the world.
Yes, he’s an overpaid cap killer, but he’s at least a young, athletic overpaid cap killer capable of some serious offense. As far as youth movements go, you could do a lot worse than Richardson, Stoudemire (I’m increasingly of the mind that extending him, even for the max, isn’t a bad idea), Barbosa, Dudley, Amundson, Clark, Dudley, and Lopez. Granted, you could probably do a lot better as well, but we’re not called “Bright Side of the Sun” for nothing.
by Mike Lisboa on Jul 10, 2009 11:22 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed. I think J-Rich is poised for a solid season. I think a day in jail wakes a man up, plus a whole training camp with Nash and Co. will get him more acclimated to the offense.
I also don’t think we’d be selling high on him which would net us something much worse.
by Wil Cantrell on Jul 10, 2009 11:26 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm content with the roster...
I just don’t think we need J-Rich, especially with Barbosa behind him. Heck, I even want Tucker to get some minutes…
My body might be in Greece, but my mind and my heart is in Arizona. When the heck will I visit the Desert?
by Giannaros on Jul 10, 2009 11:34 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Respectfully have to disagree with you. Barbosa can’t guard a regular sized SG and he can’t post up like J-Rich. Heck, we may even see both on the court at the same time.
I do think Tucker is going to see some regular minutes this season.
by Wil Cantrell on Jul 10, 2009 11:46 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough
Barbosa’s defense though has improved. While J-Rich is a good offensive player, I don’t want to get away touches from the other guys for him to be decent, while he makes our biggest problem (defense) even worse…
My body might be in Greece, but my mind and my heart is in Arizona. When the heck will I visit the Desert?
by Giannaros on Jul 10, 2009 11:55 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
ditto
barbosa> J-rich
surprisingly Better at guarding 2 guards as well.
by dontTradeAaronNelson! on Jul 10, 2009 12:02 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
JRich just needs to be included in play early.
I noticed last year that if he was a go to guy right away he had decent games. However if he was not used included right away he would kind of just fade into the background. A lot like the Boris Diwow syndrome.
by Gorilla Game on Jul 10, 2009 11:32 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
It looks like the Nash extension is 11M a year...
which is much better then what his agent was talking about not that long ago. Maybe he took less so we can extend Stoudemire??
by AltReal7 on Jul 10, 2009 11:39 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
is that official? haven't seen that break anywhere yet
by Fritzy on Jul 10, 2009 11:45 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope. I’m looking everywhere for another source, too.
by Wil Cantrell on Jul 10, 2009 11:46 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
At the bottom of the Wojnarowski article...
It says: “The terms of the Nash extension are unclear, although one source believes it is a three-year deal worth about $33 million.”
by AltReal7 on Jul 10, 2009 11:50 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I still think ...
Nash needs to be paid around 7-8m for his extension, but still, I believe $11m a year is a decline in pay, so every little bit helps.
by jburning on Jul 10, 2009 11:57 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
did it not say
two-year deal @ 33 Million?
Whats up doc?
by RottPhiler on Jul 10, 2009 1:20 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats 16.5 Million a year :)
Whats up doc?
by RottPhiler on Jul 10, 2009 1:21 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
it is kinda unbelievable thats why i'm making sure i got it right
The terms of the Nash extension are unclear, although one source believes it is a two-year deal worth about $33 million.
Whats up doc?
by RottPhiler on Jul 10, 2009 1:22 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope that's not the actual deal, or I might have an aneurysm.
That’s like paying 20K for an old, run down car. It still runs ok, but there are better models for a more reasonable price.
"I have made good judgments in the past. I have made good judgments in the future."-George W. Bush
by Diosnomeama on Jul 10, 2009 1:23 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't get me wrong, I love Nash, but his best days are behind him.
The sad thing is, nobody in the organization has the balls to tell him.
"I have made good judgments in the past. I have made good judgments in the future."-George W. Bush
by Diosnomeama on Jul 10, 2009 1:32 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, it's not a two year extension for $33M...
It was reported as a 3 year $33M deal, and now it looks like he will make $13M next year (which was the last year of his contract) and the extension will be $10M a year for two years (for a total of $33M).
by AltReal7 on Jul 10, 2009 9:19 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
This phrase clearly outlines the state of things in Phoenix "But for now the organization seem perfectly content to wait and watch while others do what they can not or will not."
For me the problem is Nash, not Stat, not Hill, not JRich, Nash, Nash only.
The not knowing yet whether he will stay or not is conditioning all negotiations and that is intolerable in a professional team. Because we are not talking about a 20-25 player years who is a superstar, we talk about a player in the twilight of his career.
The free agents aren´t getting the contracts they wanted (in terms of money), all are signed by less than they wanted or imagined. Nash, what makes you think that you can get more money than others?
Moreover, does anyone know if Chandler is healthy?
Does anyone know if Wallace wants to keep playing?
At the moment we have only 1 pivot on the roster, Lopez. Clearly insufficient. Is it possible to acquire another quality pivot? I see very few.
If there is someone who sees things differently, write now and try to convince me.
by matrix7 on Jul 10, 2009 11:52 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, something is something. If these rumors I’ve just read are confirmed my comment doesn´t make much sense, but I still think we need another center.
by matrix7 on Jul 10, 2009 12:01 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
My heart is really glad that Hill and Nash are staying
But my brain has asploded. Why re-sign these guys unless we’re going to make a serious run in the playoffs? Without another big piece, we’re not anything other then second round players at BEST…this half rebuild, half compete strategy will get you nowhere. Go hard or get out, and so far we’re somewhat in between.
If this is the start of a “SSOL LIVES ON!” type of revival, then we need somebody else on this roster, and I don’t think that Tyson Chandler is healthy. I’d prefer Camby to Chandler since Chandler takes 12 million dollars of 2010 cap space.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
by rsavaj on Jul 10, 2009 12:11 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Camby would be great!
Maybe he would be available if MEMPHIS dint take Randolf off their hands….
by dontTradeAaronNelson! on Jul 10, 2009 12:19 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here’s a stab at what I think they are doing:
1-Keeping a core of quality, experienced players for this season (Nash, Hill, Stoudamire, Barbosa, J-Rich). THis gives time for the youngsters with promise (Dragic, Tucker, Clark, Lopez) to get some more time to develop with limited backup limits. Guys like Dudley and Amundson are the hustle, dirt workers who don’t need to put up big numbers.
2-Not simply extending Stoudamire based on his “Top 10 NBA” status forces him to get on the court and play angry, thus the team benefits, his trade value increases, and in the case we want to extend him, he proves he’s healthy, motivated, and deserves the money.
3-Keeping a playoff contending team together makes us much more attractive to FA’s next year and beyond. If we are only a few pieces away from contending in the West, guys will be more interested (see Grant Hill 2 yrs ago).
4-A winning team increases attendance and obviously the team makes more money so they can sign better players and have a chance to compete.
5-Blowing this team up right now is suicide for Sarver and Kerr. Sarver is hemorraging from the economy, and Kerr’s career is on the line based on some of the rookie mistakes he’s made. They both need a playoff season this year.
by Wil Cantrell on Jul 10, 2009 12:25 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
EXACTLY!!!!
well said and organized. I am a big fan of the bullet point (and its cousin the numbered list). They teach a whole segment on it in MBA school
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by Phoenix Stan on Jul 10, 2009 12:48 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not a big fan of business schools, in general.
As Ben Rich once said, 2/3 HBS = BS.
"True glory consists of doing what deserves to be written, and writing what deserves to be read".
by Pliny the Elder on Jul 10, 2009 8:09 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, without draft picks, its not like they can rebuild soon anyway
Who are these guys again?
by ZonaFlash on Jul 10, 2009 12:59 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kinda what i've been thinking:
http://dimemag.com/2009/07/steve-kerr-needs-to-sht-or-get-off-the-pot/
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
by rsavaj on Jul 10, 2009 1:45 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Keeping Nash and Hill may need to be looked at differently.
Resigning Nash allows the team to have some type of appeal. Players always seem to say how they look forward to playing with Nash. I am sure Hill has some of that pull as well just not as much. By keeping these two it allows the team to make a playoff run this year and would allow Phoenix to at least be looked at by future players. Without Nash I am sure any FA’s would not even glance towards Phoenix. Plus how much would Stat want to stay if Nash was gone.
by Gorilla Game on Jul 10, 2009 12:17 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
I totally agree and look I am very down on Nash after last season under Porter.
But with Gentry and this system and with the uncertainty around Amare, having Nash for 3 more years provides stability while you develop the younger guys (Lopez, Clark, Dragic, Dudley) and then you can go either way with Amare.
The Suns couldn’t afford to lose both but they can afford to replace Amare with young talent if Nash is here OR they can afford to play it out next season w/ Amare and punt on an extension until he proves himself. The risk is he walks at the end of 2010 but you hope for a sign and trade to get something and then you have a TON of cap space to replace him (not with a super star but with solid guys).
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by Phoenix Stan on Jul 10, 2009 12:21 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh and Hill is just
icing…he’s great to have around and doesn’t cost much. Next year he helps transition and develop the young guys and makes the team better. Keeping Hill is a no-brainer b/c there’s no opportunity cost to it.
And I like Channing Frye. I think he’s going to be better then people think and at the 5 will provide a different look w/ Amare vs Lopez.
He’s soft and doesn’t rebound though so Amare and Frye together is potent offensively but scary bad on the boards unless Frye improves with more minutes and a bigger role
Blogging Suns Basketball
by Phoenix Stan on Jul 10, 2009 12:23 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wilcox
I am curious to see where things end of for Wilcox. He would have been better then Frye (he boards) but I am guessing was too expensive
Also, don’t rule out another potential move if Wallace takes a buy out which would free up salary and we still have Sasha’s contract which is VERY valuable in any trade
Blogging Suns Basketball
by Phoenix Stan on Jul 10, 2009 12:24 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sasha
Kerr seemed to hint that they are going to get something for Sasha on KTAR… hopefully it’s either someone good , or at least some draft picks
Mark West Should be a Hall of Famer-----maybe
by jpartington99 on Jul 10, 2009 12:26 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
And to buy time to replenish the draft picks we currently don't have
Who are these guys again?
by ZonaFlash on Jul 10, 2009 12:58 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
The best option-
This is good news. Bringing in Frye will be good too so that we don’t have to rely on ROLO all year. The suns have no reason to blow it up this year since they don’t have a draft pick, OKC owns it. If Amare stays healthy the Suns will make the playoffs. If they bring in Chandler or someone else, they will make the 2nd or 3rd round… Once this year is over, they can go after someone. This Year > Last Year.
Kerr—- good job not screwing everything up, just almost everything.
Mark West Should be a Hall of Famer-----maybe
by jpartington99 on Jul 10, 2009 12:22 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
It is amazing how the mood was in this place
over the past week. Hearing all of the teams making moves right away and trying to better themselves. Then watching Karver sitting by with nothing new to report. Now a story breaks out of a possibility that some players are being resigned/extended and the entire mood lifts. People in here really are die hard fans!
by Gorilla Game on Jul 10, 2009 12:42 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
RE
you got the correct…Suns fan for over 20 years and why not? except I still dont care for the owner.
by RogerM on Jul 10, 2009 12:47 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
and...
steve kerr, and previous GM’s
by Aluminum Foyle on Jul 10, 2009 2:32 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love Steve Kerr
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
by SunDolphin on Jul 10, 2009 3:26 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Confirmation on Hill, Frye...
but is says Nash is close to a two year extension.
http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/articles/2009/07/10/20090710clarkonline0711.html
by AltReal7 on Jul 10, 2009 12:27 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
hmmm
better 2 than 3 years
Mark West Should be a Hall of Famer-----maybe
by jpartington99 on Jul 10, 2009 12:29 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's 3 more years of Nash, btw.
Next year is a team option year, then the two year extension kicks in.
"True glory consists of doing what deserves to be written, and writing what deserves to be read".
by Pliny the Elder on Jul 10, 2009 1:12 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
RE
I beleive I read that in the paragragh about Frye and not nash… Frye taking some sort of 203 year mid level what ever…
by RogerM on Jul 10, 2009 12:51 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, it's definitely about Nash...
it says, “It meant more because Nash, Hill’s good friend, appears to be close to coming to terms on a two-year extension with the Suns.”
by AltReal7 on Jul 10, 2009 12:59 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alight!
Definately sign Hill and Nash. Keep Stoudamire to. Run and gun all the way. Richardson in the mix and we have three guys how can shoot 3-pointers in the starting unit. All we need now is an athletic 7-footer who can get us 12-points and 10-rebounds a game. If Chandler can play effectively, let’s get him to! Come on, we can be competitive and win games this year and even possibly make a run. We’ve got a decent young bench which can be better if we keep Barbosa and Barnes.
I don’t know about Frye…I think he’d be alright off the bench along with Lopez. But if we really want to compete, we need a solid 7-footer like Chandler…or maybe try to get Camby. Run and gun all the way!!!!
Geo
by Galvara1022 on Jul 10, 2009 12:46 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
werd up
With a solid center, and an inspired Amare i can see us being a 4-6 seed. SSOL is still successful in the regular season. Teams like the Lakers still have problems defending it. Here’s how i predict the seeds will fall in order for next season:
1. Lakers
2. Denver
3.Dallas
4.San Antonio
5.Portland
6.Phoenix
7.New Orleans
8. Utah
Let the fools have their tartar sauce!
by Funky Flapsack on Jul 10, 2009 1:22 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think denvers too high.
I just think their going to have a drop off.
by dontTradeAaronNelson! on Jul 10, 2009 1:27 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
might be right about that
SA may be too low but i can see them not taking the regular season seriously like they never do
Let the fools have their tartar sauce!
by Funky Flapsack on Jul 10, 2009 1:38 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, what a great day for me
I awoke to the breaking open of my newly acquired Upper Deck 08/09 Ultimate box and a box of 07/08 Sweet Shot. I grabbed some nice things out of those, including a Kevin Durant Rookie Auto (on piece of ball) #d to 299, and a Quad Jersey card of the Heat (Beasley, Haslem, Wright, and Mourning) #d to 35. More on that if asked.
But then the news breaks that Hill stays. Wow, I love this guy. With what he was offered in a team like Boston, and then to be given the option to join the Knicks with rumored pressure from the Mrs. Nope, dude is sticking it out with us. Much love, G.
Nash I always expected to sign an extension. Why would you want to leave a place where you get BJs anytime you want?!
Channing Frye. The jury’s still out, but at least its not somebody I’d be upset with. He doesnt strike me as a C, much like Amare. But I do think that running with Frye and Amare switching on and off from PF and C would be really REALLY good. Almost lethal. How can somebody guard that? You have no idea when or where the attack is coming.
by KnowGood on Jul 10, 2009 12:55 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Good times... ( I think!)
Who are these guys again?
by ZonaFlash on Jul 10, 2009 12:58 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
So....
Basically, both Hill AND Nash have used D’Antoni to bid up the price for the Suns.
Your hotdog dollars and UAC parking dollars at work!
Who are these guys again?
by ZonaFlash on Jul 10, 2009 1:02 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
It is obvious some people know when they have the upper hand.
by Gorilla Game on Jul 10, 2009 1:04 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also good news: Amare is untradeable as long as Boozer is on the block
Okur got an extension, so I’m not sure that means he is more tradeable (cant walk out on new team) or less (no longer expiring contract, fixed liability).
Who are these guys again?
by ZonaFlash on Jul 10, 2009 1:10 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Wait how does that make Amar'e untradeable?
by Batmanthesunsfan on Jul 10, 2009 1:18 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
My guess ...
Is that since they’re both all-star power forwards, they’d be in competition with each other. Boozer isn’t expecting a max extension, I’m sure, and I would be more willing to take 14-16m a year, and Boozer has shown he’s still healthy.
by jburning on Jul 10, 2009 2:43 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's sign Kurt Thomas and Gerald Green and effing ROLL!
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
by rsavaj on Jul 10, 2009 1:20 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
KT after he's cut*
Or trade Pavlovic for him.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
by rsavaj on Jul 10, 2009 1:20 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or trade Pavs for someone better.
But I still want Kurt Thomas.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
by rsavaj on Jul 10, 2009 1:20 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
watch KT
cost us 2 more first round picks
by Aluminum Foyle on Jul 10, 2009 2:35 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Praise the Lord
Its nice to see Hill back!!!
by Spit_Fire on Jul 10, 2009 1:35 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
frye = nice guy
i really dont know much about frye, but he seems to me like a good guy
a local portland blogger called Frye “the Blazers’ best blogger and second best PF” and points out that “Frye’s stay in Portland will probably best be remembered by his deep love for the city, and less for his limited time spent on court. He was the only Blazers player to make Portland his full-time home during the off-season, and was, without question, the nicest/funniest voice in the locker room.”
along with hill and nash and other guys, seems like we have a pretty classy squad. only thing is, we definitely won’t have the TOUGHNESS that we had last season with shaq and barnes (especially since frye seems like a very “soft” type of player—one that mightve fit in very well with the old SSOL). Hopefully we can use wallace+pavlovic to get someone who can beef up the toughness of our squad.
by yanyanman2 on Jul 10, 2009 1:53 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
Not so hot on the lack of toughness thing. Apparently Frye is a jump shooter not a banger. sigh
We need tough guys. Maybe Shaq wore off a bit on RoLo and we’ll see a bit of angst from him next year.
Maybe Horry would come out of retirement for us and toss a towel or a hip check or two (ducks from flying objects at the suggestion)
by eagleheart on Jul 10, 2009 2:02 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I met Frye once
back when he was with New York. Saw him at the chandler mall. Liked my U of A hat. Go figure
by Batmanthesunsfan on Jul 10, 2009 3:53 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's supposed to be a REALLY
nice guy. But also has a rep for being soft on the court. We are going to do a Q and A w/ Blazers Edge and get the full scoop
Blogging Suns Basketball
by Phoenix Stan on Jul 10, 2009 3:55 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
just got home
AND FINALLY saw some Good news about our Suns!
by CCArvin on Jul 10, 2009 1:54 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Nash & Stat's raise
i hope nash won’t demand much on his demand for a salary raise, that raise would affect the max entension that stat also demands,
i dont believe in giving them both the raise they want since both of them are a liability on defence
by Spit_Fire on Jul 10, 2009 2:03 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
that good ol' feeling
Great article from Coro with more details
http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/articles/2009/07/10/20090710clarkonline0711.html
To me, all of this is good news not only because of Hill and Frye, but also the message that our players are sending us: “We are not abandoning you, Phoenix.” In the article, it says that one of Hills main reasons for coming back are that he felt that he had “unfinished business” in Phoenix. Fancy that, that’s how us fans feel as well!!
Aside from that, the fact that Nash called Hill to convince him to stay also says something about Nash’s desire to play as a Sun. I know these guys are old, but they are also damn good and if they are really this motivated to play with each other here in Phoenix then maybe that could make up for lack of youth.
Speaking of youth, who knew that Grant and Amare were close friends? According to the article, Amare’s future is apparently of concern to Grant. To me this can only be good news. A young player with HUGE potential but major immaturity/selfishness issues being friends with one of the most mature/selfless players in the game who also once had that same star-potential?? Perhaps Grant can teach STAT something about character and team play if they both stay here in Phoenix—and play some good basketball while they are at it.
Having players and management dedicated to a team and a city—dedicated to winning for the fans in that city and for each other—that’s all I can really ask.
by yanyanman2 on Jul 10, 2009 2:07 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
If you can have any current veteran help out on younger players, who better for the job than Grant Hill. Talk about love for the game. When a player says “unfinished business” that usually means they’re looking to do some avenging. Grant could’ve been THE star, if it werent for his bad luck injuries. Seeing him play every game last year says a lot about how committed he is and how great our staff is.
Its not always about money or winning a title. Grant Hill deserves a title more than everyone else in the league, and he could’ve easily grabbed that opportunity by signing with the Celts. Maybe he believes something many other do not about this team.
But the big point is that Hill staying with us does so many tremendous things for our young players. We dont have any mids. We have so many youngsters that can learn so many great things on and off the court from players like Hill and Nash.
This makes me feel so bipolar cause I’m so happy with this team right now and yesterday I thought they were the worst team of all. All we need now is to drop Richardson and pick up a big somewhere. Whats Skinner up to these days?
by KnowGood on Jul 10, 2009 2:52 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
agreed- probably no championship this year.. but at least it won’t be a train wreck
Mark West Should be a Hall of Famer-----maybe
by jpartington99 on Jul 10, 2009 3:34 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just want to say
That I’m happier than I was yesterday…!
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
by PanamaSun on Jul 10, 2009 2:15 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm happy in way
the Suns are obviously working to be good next year (even if it’s fruitless).
But I’m worried that Jason Richardson is probably our best rebounder.
Purchasing my Dragic jersey
by rosewood on Jul 10, 2009 3:13 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
This is the team you will see in Nov.
The suns are done in the offseason. It is unfortunate, but I think we all underestimate how good amare and Nash are together without Shaq complicating things. Richardson is basically the new Matrix (without defense but better from behind the arc.)
It is true, the suns will not beat the lakers, mavs or nuggest next season.. But to everyone who thinks we should blow up the team I ask you this very basic question: “What blow up a team when do not own your draft pick next year?”
That makes no sense… if you want to rebuild- wait till 2010-
Also- the 33mil deal would mean 2009-2010 13 mil, 2010- 10mil, 2011- 10mil.
Mark West Should be a Hall of Famer-----maybe
by jpartington99 on Jul 10, 2009 3:16 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Unless, of course,
you could have turned one of your All-Star veterans (Nash, Amare, or Shaq) in a 2010 pick (among other assets).
The idea would be to get usable parts like a 2010 pick. That’s how/why you blow up it b/c once these assets leave (Amare), lose value (an aging Nash), or already gone (Shaq), you can’t get value any more.
Purchasing my Dragic jersey
by rosewood on Jul 10, 2009 3:20 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nash's extension
If the suns really believe in Dragic (which I frankly do for some unknown reason) this is the best thing to ever happen to him, he can now feel pretty secure that he will be the back-up pg for the next 2 years at least.
Mark West Should be a Hall of Famer-----maybe
by jpartington99 on Jul 10, 2009 3:17 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
absolutely
and I’d like to see Nash work more closely with Goran. If Dragic can pick up some of the things that made Nash so Nashty, then he’ll be one really good PG. Dude can dunk; you dont see PGs do that too often. He’s a sleeper.
by KnowGood on Jul 10, 2009 3:24 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Completely agree
Dude is a true sleeper… I think by the end of this year we will be seeing him as one of the best back up pg out there (except maybe for Pargo in Chicago). He has a lot of the skills nash has, with a bit more length. When everyone gets down on Dragic, they should remember that Steve Nash was the 15th pick in the draft , Dragic was a 2nd rounder and avg take a look at the comparison of their rookie years:
Dragic
GP ↓ GS ↓ MPG ↓ FG% ↓ 3P% ↓ FT% ↓ RPG ↓ APG ↓ SPG ↓ BPG ↓ PPG ↓
55 1 13.2 .393 .370 .769 1.9 2.0 .5 .1 4.5
Nash
GP ↓ GS ↓ MPG ↓ FG% ↓ 3P% ↓ FT% ↓ RPG ↓ APG ↓ SPG ↓ BPG ↓ PPG ↓
65 2 10.5 .423 .418 .824 1.0 2.1 .3 .0 3.3
Mark West Should be a Hall of Famer-----maybe
by jpartington99 on Jul 10, 2009 3:33 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meh
We’ll see how the season plays out. I’m neither excited or disapointed. We still have so much work to do and I’m way more concerned with how the rookies do.
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
by SunDolphin on Jul 10, 2009 3:29 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
2009-2010 Suns
1st unit- Nash, Richardson, Hill, Amare, Lopez/Frye
2nd unit- Dragic, Barbossa, Dudley, Lou, Lopez/Frye
blowout/injury insert (in this order) : Clark, Tucker, Griffin
Pretty scared about the Lopez/Frye contingent- but other than that, I think it’s better than most of the west, save for Lakers
Mark West Should be a Hall of Famer-----maybe
by jpartington99 on Jul 10, 2009 3:34 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Grant Hill Staying....
Finally some good news! And if the Frye rumor is true, then we’re suddenly looking at Nash, Barbosa, Hill, Frye and Stat as likely starting 5. There’s still some sorting out to do with JRich and Barnes, and with Amundson, Dudley, Dragic, Lopez, Clark and Tucker off the bench, this is a competive team with upside. I still think we need a strong 2 or 3 that can shoot and play D, and maybe JRich can still be that guy. And Dragic will have to step up and be able to spell Nash, since I think Barbosa is a better 2 than back-up 1. But suddently things are looking bright and we could actually be in for some fun with the Suns in the fall!
by FunInTheSun on Jul 10, 2009 3:38 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
GOOD LUCK FRYE!
I like the Suns a little more now!
M 80- So what does Portland give up? Big D- Nothing, Pritchard is such a genius that teams just give him players for free. (Comments from Blog a Bull on July 9, 2009)
by JWise on Jul 10, 2009 6:43 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I think....
That Clark is going to be more ready than people think. I wouldn’t be surprised to see the rook get some serious minutes and make the most of them.
I would love to see Clark get heavy minutes at the 4 w/ Amare at the 5. I am really high on this kid after watching him so much this year. Go youtube him and you’ll see what I mean.
by bradley281 on Jul 10, 2009 7:53 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
YouTubes are like job references
they only show the good parts
Blogging Suns Basketball
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