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New Rule: No wild and crazy trade ideas without...


For weeks now I've watched in horror awe as our Fan Posts have turned into a steady stream one wild trade idea after another.

Don't get me wrong, I am all for throwing out trade ideas. I've been known to bounce a few off the walls myself but seriously folks, I don't think the Cavs are going to trade LeBron James for Lou Amundson as much as you might think Lou looks like Drew Carry and therefor would be a fan favorite in Cleveland. So...

New Rule - No Trade Ideas Without a Little Footwork

If you are going to throw something against the wall it must contain some basic elements to at least show you've put serious thought into it. Your trade idea post must include the following:

  • Benefits to both teams on the court and in other ways as applicable
  • Analysis of the financial impact to both side showing that the deal is at least plausible under the rules of the CBA

See, that's not too much to ask for is it? Put a little thought into it and if you come up with something interesting and plausible people will discuss the merits. If you are are just throwing out random thoughts please first visit your dog or cat to get their reaction before sharing with us.

Trade ideas that don't meet this highly rigid and Orwellian standard are subject to destruction.

Sincerely,

The Depart of Free Speech is a Right Only Guaranteed by the Government and We are Not the Government

Poll
Do you like the New Rule?
Yes. (Good, you may stay)
129 votes
No. (Nice knowing you)
6 votes
Who died and made you Intergalactic Overlord of Random Trade Ideas?
47 votes

182 votes | Poll has closed

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yes.

it would be nice to know, as a fan who visits the site constantly, that a trade idea is at least financially plausible since I am not the most knowledgeable about financial plausibility.

Also, last time I checked blogs aren’t a democracy. Thanks for trying to clean it up a little and raise all of our standards! The only people that would be upset about this are the lazy ones.

by PHXgp on Jul 23, 2009 4:52 PM MST reply actions  

Admittedly,

part of the reason I’ve been reading a little bit less the past few weeks is the endless deluge of trade ideas, a good chunk of which would never, ever happen in anything except NBA Live and dream world. So good call.

by Azreous on Jul 23, 2009 5:17 PM MST reply actions  

So, you’re saying that Lebron James is available for a package that revolves around “Lightning Lou” if we can sweeten the deal?

Just kidding, I like the new ‘rule’

by ArizonaCactus on Jul 23, 2009 5:25 PM MST reply actions  

Thank God

that someone finally said it. I was waiting and waiting and waiting…

Go read a book!

by N8lol on Jul 23, 2009 5:40 PM MST reply actions  

aw man

i was just putting the finishing touches on my Steve Nash for the starting line up of the 1978 Philidelphia Flyers trade..I had it all worked out and everything.. ( it was a 3 way trade that required the buyout of a team of cyborgs with chainsaw hands )

rats.

by Fritzy on Jul 23, 2009 5:50 PM MST reply actions  

Man,

why would any GM buy out cyborgs with chainsaw hands? I would build a team around them.

by Azreous on Jul 23, 2009 10:33 PM MST up reply actions  

well the way refs call handchecking

you’d be down to your bench in no time..

by Fritzy on Jul 23, 2009 10:56 PM MST up reply actions  

Had to do the same thing at TDS

It’s so tedious having to remove everything that goes up, because you figure people are just, well, smarter.

And oddly enough, The Dream Shake’s abbreviation said aloud is “tedious.”

The Dream Shake ...on Twitter.
"I think girls are probably just better shooters." - Steve Novak

by Tom Martin on Jul 23, 2009 6:11 PM MST reply actions  

Great Rule...

…Especially for a rare supporter of Jason Richardson such as myself. And I would love to meet the guy who came up with the “James-for-Amundson” scenario. Hahaha.

They're trying to take my tortillas!

by N-Temp on Jul 23, 2009 6:44 PM MST reply actions  

Thank you

I too felt that this is getting out of hand.

Hmm. Speaking about bad trades, now I feel like going to ESPN’s Trade Machine and get us some Lebron and Howard and Chris Paul. And Hollinger is going to say that that will increase our projected wins by 50, so we’re going to win 96 games next season!!!

by gadogry on Jul 23, 2009 7:15 PM MST reply actions  

Done!

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=lol7bh

Outgoing: Nash, Amar’e, LB and JRich
Incoming: Lebron, Brendon Roy, Chris Paul, Aldridge, Oden, Przybilla, David West, Fernandez.

With that ESPN says we win 52 extra games next season…

(and yeah, Goran is still our backup PG…)

by gadogry on Jul 23, 2009 7:35 PM MST up reply actions  

Great

Material for a new signature!

According to John Hollinger's analysis, "Goran Dragic can be the backup PG of a 98-win team.":"SB Nation":http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=lol7bh

by gadogry on Jul 24, 2009 5:29 PM MST up reply actions  

Didn't work, try again

According to John Hollinger's analysis, "*Goran Dragic can be the backup PG of a 98-win team.*":http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=lol7bh

by gadogry on Jul 24, 2009 5:30 PM MST up reply actions  

haha

adress of the idea contains “lol”. nice :D

Libertarianism is just Anarchy for rich people

by Murcy on Jul 25, 2009 5:40 AM MST up reply actions  

Booooooooo, this was the best entertainment over here. Well, after the Mercury coverage of course.

We specialize in misinformation around here. Facts and stats just get in the way.

by Wayne Vore (ATS) on Jul 23, 2009 7:57 PM MST reply actions  

Says who?

First,

The Depart of Free Speech is a Right Only Guaranteed by the Government and We are Not the Government

The Constitution guarantees the right to free speech. The Constitution is a restriction on the government. Citizens often file lawsuits to prevent the government from infringing on this right. Don’t trust the government!

Second,

“Arguably” any trade that passes the ESPN trade machine is good for each time.

I could argue for any trade; I’m not saying every argument would be a good argument, but who died and made you Overlord of Random Trade Ideas?

I propose one rule, condensing the two, that would preserve everyone’s right to free speech (even though the Constitution only restricts the government, not private persons):

If it passes ESPN Trade Machine muster you can propose the trade as long as you try to make your point.

Mmmmm ... Guinness

by JSun on Jul 23, 2009 8:26 PM MST reply actions  

I somewhat agree

I don’t have a problem with random trade ideas, it makes sense to see if they even work financially and within the CBA. But without the odd random trade post there may not be any “news” at all going on so I don’t mind the odd idea as it gives us fans something to talk about when the news is slow. When we’re talking, we’re laying out how we value so-and-so’s ability to do something and how player X on team Y would be a better fit because our guys are getting it done.

Just discussin’

by eagleheart on Jul 24, 2009 12:11 AM MST up reply actions  

and where

exactly is the freedom of speech guaranteed in the Big C?

by Seth Pollack on Jul 24, 2009 7:46 AM MST up reply actions  

First Amendment?

I think. Not so sure, though. Go find a good lawyer

Mmmmm ... Guinness

by JSun on Jul 24, 2009 3:01 PM MST up reply actions  

I think

We should just send out CBA mechanics tests every three months and people who don’t pass can’t post. And not a multiple choice test either. Essay, baby.

The way I look at it is if you know the CBA at least decently well, then you’re a) decently smart and b) really into basketball. And based on those two factors I’d say you’ll probably have a readable trade post.

Don't feel bad, Channing. We can't rebound either.

by rosewood on Jul 23, 2009 10:15 PM MST reply actions  

Everyone but you would fail

That’s why I like the cheat-sheet machine.

Otherwise, you’d be the only person discussing trades. And, given that they’d probably make a ton of sense, we wouldn’t have anything to do but nod.

Mmmmm ... Guinness

by JSun on Jul 24, 2009 3:03 PM MST up reply actions  

Bron for Jared Dudley.

Jared Dudley is gonna be fresh. The Cavs should do it.

Who are these guys again?

by ZonaFlash on Jul 24, 2009 12:15 AM MST reply actions  

I don't like giving up Dudley

Can we trade Shaq instead? Oh wait…..Dang.

http://themeanderingtruth.evony.com/ ve watched, loved, and rooted for the Suns for half my life! I hate smug and hypocritical Laker fans.

by felixthm on Jul 24, 2009 7:47 AM MST up reply actions  

Hey, feel free to make up any trade for Matt Bonner/Michael Finley!

AKA: Linix129

by sw12 on Jul 24, 2009 7:58 AM MST reply actions  

I have never suggested a trade since I do not have the financial information or the access to individaul stats or who is playing how at any given time to make an informed decision. I try to limit myself to general team type posts or coaching theories.
Some trades suggested do sound fanciful I agree but we are at a point where nothing is happening and a lot of people a getting wound up waiting for the season to commence.
Maybe I am over sensitive but this poll/post makes me uncomfortable. Reading it makes me feel just a little bit elitest.
As long as the posts are polite and non confrontational I don’t have a problem.

by overthere on Jul 24, 2009 11:18 AM MST reply actions  

I back the trade ban.

I don’t think there’s anything elitist about managing content on the site. And the trade proposals were getting out of hand. I read through them (just like I read everything on the site) and it was just a drag. Just because a trade passes Trade Machine muster does not make it viable for discussion. If there is no demonstrable value to the trade other than the Suns get Superstar X (who is killing it in the Intergalactic D-League right now), then it’s not worthy of showing up on our front page.

And we’ll do our best to keep you entertained as we enter the doldrums of the offseason.

by Mike Lisboa on Jul 24, 2009 12:36 PM MST reply actions  

Entertainment?

If people would make decent plausible proposals, than we could actually have a nice discussion and get some dialogue. Otherwise it is just meaningless prattle. Personally I would rather see fewer good quality posts than a billion dumb trades.

by egp the great on Jul 24, 2009 12:44 PM MST up reply actions  

I read them all as well and ok they can be a drag but we are just sitting around having a beer and blowing smoke right. It’s not like we are talking about anything really important.
Again maybe I’m over sensitive but I am cautious of the ‘slippery slope’ in all situations that suggest limiting discussion.
Any proposal that gets 85% support should always be challenged.

Even this is enteraining

by overthere on Jul 24, 2009 1:44 PM MST up reply actions  

Valid points

and honestly the threat of deletion is a bit tongue in cheek as was the entire Rule. I am hoping to clean it up a bit moving forward and at least have some more thought and effort put into random trade proposals.

To date, the only comments or posts deleted from this site have been either obvious spam or out of the bounds of acceptable internet decency (which are not exactly the Queens Rules of decorum)

by Seth Pollack on Jul 24, 2009 1:50 PM MST up reply actions  

Trade Machine Rule

That works. Well, I think so.

If the only governing rule is that it is within the realm of possibilities, there is no harm in instituting such a rule.

And … it’s easy to enforce. Provide the link or the screenshot or your post gets sent into the Phantom Zone to endlessly torture General Zod and his cronies.

Mmmmm ... Guinness

by JSun on Jul 24, 2009 3:06 PM MST up reply actions  

Outside of my usual contrariness which started me off, my concern is that since this site is the only one I invest any time in…’cause it is generally well thoughtout, well mannered and civilized….I want it to remain so.
Even if I have to read flakey comments….. such as my own.

by overthere on Jul 24, 2009 2:05 PM MST reply actions  

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