Reevaluating the Phoenix Suns off season options
Round about mid-May we took a look at five options for the Suns this summer and gave odds for each. Ranking Trade Shaq as the fourth option and giving it 10% odds might (might) not have been my finest moment as a keyboard GM.
Since May the Suns have let Shaq move along to the more royal confines of Cleveland and have come close to trading Amare to Golden State. A deal which is by no means completely dead although I would say it seems to be on life support at the moment with a Do Not Resuscitate order pinned to its gown. Given my track record that means it will be done by July 9th.
With the 14th pick, Steve Kerr and his sidekick David Griffin drafted Earl Clark (passing on the surprisingly still available Jrue Holiday) and in the second round took Other Brother Griffin and some Bosnian kid who was sold to the Cavs too fast for me to remember his name. More likely then not in three or four years we will all know his name just like Marcin Gortat who was drafted with the 57th pick and sold by the Suns in 2005.
And to drive the draft nail in a little deeper, the 2nd round pick the Suns traded to the Spurs to jump up and get Dragic turned into DeJuan Blair. I hate to wish for anyone's knees to implode, but for the sanity of all Suns fans it would be best if Blair doesn't have a good NBA career.
The free agency period started with a bang whimper as the the Pistons used all that cap space to land Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva; the Lakers swapped a young stud defender for an old crazy one that likes to dominate the ball; and the Clippers pulled off the trade of the summer by dumping Zach Randolph's $33m on the Grizzlies young locker room and got back the very serviceable Quentin Richardson and his expiring $8.7m contract.
The dust hasn't settled yet as Hedo was Trailblazer for a few hours until his wife found out and now he looks to be headed to the European Raptors. Gortat and Kidd seemed destined for the Mavericks and Carlos Boozer shocked the Wasatch Mountain faithful by staying with the Jazz.
That leaves a ton of big names still out there as of today including: Bass, Sheed, Milsap, Lee, Robinson, Childress, Felton, Miller, Bibby, Sessions, Zaza, Birdman, Marion, Iverson, Odom, Von Wafer (just calling him Wafer seems wrong), Gooden and the handful of bigs that the Suns are supposedly interested in: McDyess, Frye, Wilcox (who I love if we can get him cheap enough), Joe Smith and of course Mr. Grant Hill. oh, and don't forget Stephon Marbury.
With all that having gone down so far, here's a reevaluation and updating of the Suns options as of today, July 4th, 2009.
Oh, and Happy Birthday America! You don't look a day over 217!
Option 1 - Standing Pat
There's a great thing about the Standing Pat option, it is always available. No matter where you are, you can always decide that you've reached your (temporary) destination and stop moving forward. Sometimes it makes sense to take a break on your journey and fight with the Army you have and sometimes you must continue onwards. Knowing the difference between the two is why those guys in the glass offices on Jefferson St. in downtown Phoenix get paid the big dollars. Second guessing them is why this guy in his mother's basement gets paid squat.
In the original Standing Pat assessment I felt that the Suns were 70% likely to do nothing much this off season beyond trying to resign Grant Hill and the draft. Turns out that saving ~$11m by trading salary dumping Shaq was of a higher importance then I considered.
In retrospect this makes sense. Why not let Shaq go play in Cleveland and avoid paying him $21m to get in the way of whatever comes next. Sure, it would have been nice to get a little bit more out of him (like a 1st round pick) but that train has passed and in the list of things to get bent out of shape over, that ranks pretty low. Besides, between Wallace's potential buy out and Pavlovic's valuable contract the fruits of this deal are not yet known. But more on that later.
Right now anyway, Standing Pat mostly means resigning Hill, not trading Amare or Nash, hanging on to Wallace and waiving Sasha to save that $5.5m. With Amundson's team option picked up the only roster uncertainty is if Taylor Griffin makes the team. He can be signed for the rookie minimum but he could also be let go or traded for some other late round rookie if someone catches the Suns' eye in Vegas.
I am out of the odds making game, but my gut says that there's more moves to come before October.
Option 2 - Trading Amare
I feel like we've beat this horse to death and then ground up the meat and gave it to the dogs which were then feed to North Korean children as part of a UN famine prevention program. But here's some more gristle...
- Amare to the Warriors for Biedrins and some other young folk - seems dead since Amare in a bit of fantastic irony feels like the Warriors are giving up too much to get him and therefor isn't interested in signing an extension or sign and trade to make the deal a go
- Amare to the Bulls - this one has not been rumored anywhere except in my mind. I still like some combination of Tyrus Thomas, Jerome James insurance covered contract, and John Salmons. This is a deal that I can get behind if Amare can't be kept in Phoenix and Amare should be interested in Chicago and playing with Rose. So far though, I haven't heard even a whisper of this deal so you might as well not even consider it. Forget I even mentioned it. Wipe it from your mind. But I am not deleting the actual words preceding these.
- Amare to who knows where but maybe the Celtics or Detroit or even Atlanta (despite there being no real good options for any of those)
Of course, not doing anything with Amare is also an option. The Suns reportedly will be meeting with Stoudemire in the coming weeks to discuss his future in Phoenix and perhaps resigning him to a decent contract is a the best option at this point. If Amare would agree to a ~$15m per year deal, that's probably fine. If he's still insisting on the max (~$20m) then we are right back where we were last February. I've said it many times and nothing has yet to change my mind that signing Amare to a bad contract is a bigger long term risk then trading him now for what might appear on the surface as less then fair value.
We'll just have to wait and see how bad teams want Amare and how highly Amare values Amare's worth.
Option 3 - Trading Nash
We hit this one pretty hard yesterday talking about Nash's desire to play in New York and the Suns (hopefully) desire to not over pay him for a three year extension.
I think it goes without saying that the Suns with Amare and Nash along with Richardson, Barbosa and some solid rotation players are a competitive team next season. The loss of Shaq (assuming no other center is acquired) will make the Suns once again highly vulnerable on the glass and in the paint but there's little question that if healthy, that group can put up some points and win a lot of games.
But without either Nash or Amare the team will be worse in the short term and this fact seems to tie the fates of Amare and Nash together.
Option 4 - Trade JRich
I am just going to paste in most of what I wrote back in May. Nothing's changed except that the Timberwolves need Richardson even more now then they did then when they had Foye and Miller. With Rubio staying in Spain for two years and rookie Flynn running the point a back court vet like Richardson makes more sense for Minnesota then any other deal I've seen in a long time.
Jason Richardson to me is the most movable. Not because there are teams banging down Steve Kerr's door to pay $28m over two years for a guy that has been exposed as being a poor defensive player who needs the ball (a lot) to be productive but because the Suns could most easily replace him next season.
In fact, I would argue that the Suns could be a better team with a defensive guard like Dahntay Jones, Anthony Parker or Thabo Sefolosha playing next to Nash then with Richardson.
There aren't too many teams I can think of that would really benefit from Richardson. The Timberwolves keep coming to mind as the best destination. They have inside presence with Jefferson and Love but are lacking any kind of reliable outside threat that can shoot and create. Foye is decent but young and inconsistent and now gone Adding Richardson makes the Wolves better and with 3 first round picks and a couple of contracts like
Mike MillerEtan Thomas and Ryan Gomes a deal is possible.The good news with Richardson is that he didn't cause problems with his lessor role on the Suns. He was by all accounts a decent enough team mate and if anything was too passive in the offense. If he can come back with improved on the ball defense and a better sense of when to be aggressive with his shot and when to defer he can still give the Suns plenty of production.
Unless I am missing something, the T-wolves still have about $8m in cap space which means they could trade Etan Thomas ($7m expiring) and maybe one young player like Pecherov or Wayne Ellington for JRich.
I still think this is a very doable trade that makes sense for both teams. I've said that a few times haven't I?
Option 5 - Free Agents/Other Trades
Assuming no other changes to the roster, the biggest needs for the Suns are small forward and center. This is why Grant Hill is a the team's number one priority and all indications are that he's going to return. But, I would not be surprised if Grant is looking at all this mess and wondering what the Suns are up to. Would he really want to come back to Phoenix if Amare or Nash are gone? He certainly could sign (probably for more money) in Boston, Denver or Cleveland.
To play behind (or ahead of) Lopez, the Suns are reportedly looking at McDyess, Channing Frye, Joe Smith and Chris Wilcox. In my mind there's no question that Chris Wilcox is the best player of that bunch. He's Amare like in his athleticsm with more of Amare's tendencies to not play hard. I question that Wilcox would sign here for what the Suns would likely be able to pay. Maybe $2m? From there, I like Channing Frye. He is long and mobile and has some range with his mid-range shot. Mostly though he's young and I have no real interest in seeing McDyess or Smith come in an reprise the role Jalen Rose played at the end of his career.
The Suns do have (if they were so inclined to use it) the very tradable contract of Sasha Pavlovic that still could be used in a deal with a team more desperate then Phoenix to save money. Is there a guy out there for about $4m to $6m that the Suns really covet and is playing a for team not going anywhere? Sasha's contract could be used to grab him. Mostly likely this chip will be saved as long as possible to see how the various other dominoes fall. That's what I would do anyway and as you know you are getting all the best GM advise you are paying for on this blog.
Then finally there's still the option of trading Wallace to the Hornets for Chandler. Again, I think this is an option that can wait to see how everything else plays out. Some people argue that making this deal makes a lot of sense if Amare and Nash stay and I would agree with that. But what if Amare and/or Nash is gone? At that point do the Suns really want to bring in Chandler and his largeish contract for two more years? I doubt it. And of course no one outside of Wallace and hopefully Kerr know what Big Ben's plans for this season actually are.
Writing this has brought into focus just how interconnected all of the Suns options are. You can't say "trade Wallace for Chandler" without first knowing what you are doing with Amare. You can't consider a deal for Richardson until you know what's happening with Nash. Grant Hill is a key piece but like Nash seems to be waiting to see what everyone else does. It's a pretty complex picture and is no where near being resolved.
I think Nash is the first key piece and not Amare. If he gets extended for 3 years then you have that to build around for the short term and you have a guy that free agents are going to want to come play with. He needs to be the first domino to fall one way or another before everything else can fall into place.
To help make all of these interconnected options make more sense I've created an easy to follow visual aid...
It's no wonder Kerr looks like he's aged 10 years in the last six months.
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Haha! Nice chart
I’m not sure why Nash would really want to go tank for 2010 in NY with his buddy Mike D. The Jazz want to trade Boozer, AK, or Okur to make room for Millsap. PHX should be clamoring to get a deal done with J-Rich.
by runningdonut on Jul 4, 2009 2:29 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Also, good call on the Jazz making a play for J-Rich-
Maybe swap him for Okur? Talk about a good center for our sytsem.
by UASun on Jul 4, 2009 2:36 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea i do agree it seems like you gotta either keep nash and amare or trade nash and amare..i would give amare a contract around 15-16 mil a season with incentives that could possibly pay him max for that season..that would keep amare motivated..not sure if they can do that but if they can both parties win amare still gets guaranted money and phx gets him actually playing for his value cuz he can be a real special player..I say get chandler a front court of him Earl Clark and Amare are intriging you got defense and scoring..I think the bench needs to improve they are real good on defense but other than barbosa really struggled to score..And I’d trade J-rich if we can get something good weather a future draft pick and expiring contract..i was reading on twitter amare fabolous jay-z lebron was all partying together maybe he can convice Lebron or a big free agent to come here next yr..
by Lebrontophx2010 on Jul 4, 2009 2:31 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Never thought about trading Pavlovic
I think that’s a great idea – what if we trade Pavlovic to the Blazers for Outlaw? They have a glut of SF, don’t seem committed to Outlaw, and they could immediately wave Pavlovic and add a couple more million to their cap space, so they could sign Marion or Sesions or something. I love Outlaw. In a unreasonable manner.
by UASun on Jul 4, 2009 2:35 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Keep Amare
Keep Nash
Wallace For Chandler
J Rich to Minnesota…..make Barbosa a starter and maybe get a first round pick next year.
Either Sign grant hill or just start Dudley at small forward.
Don’t sign Matt Barnes.
by cabezonication on Jul 4, 2009 2:55 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
agree
the hardest part will be getting Chandler from the hornets. Either they seem reluctant to play ball with us or we have been in so much flux the last few weeks that we had no idea what we really wanted. J-rich to MN works for me; getting a 1st back would be spectacular. I don’t think Dudley is ready to start though. He really came on in the last couple months but Hill is still a significant improvement.
If 4 out of 5 people SUFFER from diarrhea... does that mean that one enjoys it?
by jacksonian on Jul 4, 2009 3:01 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hi
In my head, i imagine Nash and Amare calling up the Matrix and saying “bro. We couldn’t do it without each other. Come back to us, and let’s give this thing another try.” So, Marion swallows his pride and signs for the MLE (or a portion of it so we can bring Hill back). Marion isn’t the same player without Nash and the Suns aren’t the same team without Marion.
Let the fools have their tartar sauce!
by Funky Flapsack on Jul 4, 2009 2:59 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Marion
He could be signed and traded from Toronto. I think that’s what they are trying to do. He’s looking for money and will try to rip someone off before giving someone a discount like he should
by runningdonut on Jul 4, 2009 4:46 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
by SunDolphin on Jul 5, 2009 5:47 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heh,
Marion swallows his pride and signs for MLE
Heh
by egp the great on Jul 5, 2009 9:18 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
all the people say Marion isn´t the same player without Nash, but last season he made 13p-8,5r in a team who plays slow tempo. But I do not want him back.
Wilcox is a bad copy of Amare
by matrix7 on Jul 4, 2009 3:13 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
All of the above
is that an option?
by Batmanthesunsfan on Jul 4, 2009 3:31 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Generally
I agree with the sentiment that JRich isn’t the best fit for this team, but I don’t think he’s such a bad fit that Wayne Ellington + Etan Thomas makes sense. Even with JRich, we should still have useful cap room in the 2010 offseason unless we sign Nash to a ridiculous extension and Amare opts-in to his last year unmodified by an extension.
I mean, JRich is a bad fit but he is not that bad of a fit.
Purchasing my Dragic jersey
by rosewood on Jul 4, 2009 3:34 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I kind of see it this way...
If you keep Amare and Nash then the cap space you gain by making this kind of deal w/ Minnie makes sense to me. If you aren’t keeping Amare and Nash then keep JRich…that’s an over simplification but all this really is…
btw Mr Rosewood. I have a question for you. I am doing some research and came across the details of the 2004 trade w/ the Knicks that sent Penny and Starbury to NY. In that deal it appears we received a 1st round pick that was protected this way:
2006 protected first round pick (top 25 in 2006, top 24 in 2007, top 23 in 2008, top 22 in 2009, unprotected 2010)
The Knicks having sucked since 2004 had that pick protect but it seems like we will get it in 2010 whereas everyone is thinking we don’t have a pick in 2010.
This would be great news I think if true. Can you verify this since you are so good at this stuff?
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by Seth Pollack on Jul 4, 2009 3:53 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
Let me check. That would be nothing but pure awesomeness. But I’m pretty sure the Jazz have the Knicks 2010 pick, which means at some point we must have given it away. Let me find out.
Purchasing my Dragic jersey
by rosewood on Jul 4, 2009 3:59 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup
We traded it to the Jazz with Gugliotta and our 2004 pick in Feb. 2004 to clear cap space. Good times.
Purchasing my Dragic jersey
by rosewood on Jul 4, 2009 4:02 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I got pretty excited
and then I kept reading.
What a disappointment
by Batmanthesunsfan on Jul 4, 2009 4:43 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup...missed that
darn
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by Seth Pollack on Jul 4, 2009 4:53 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can’t say I understand why JRich is a bad fit for us. If he’s not good for us, then he’s not good for anyone. Unless it’s his contract that’s not good for us.
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
by SunDolphin on Jul 5, 2009 5:48 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Phoenix's chance through questions
Can the Suns win the championship now? No.
Can the Suns win with Steve Nash now or until his contract ends? No.
Does the franchise seek to win a championship? Yes
What must be done? Change! Yes, we can!
Trading Steve Nash shall dishearten Phoenix Suns fans… but he is NOT the future. He is becoming old and decrepit. Amare though childish and inconsistent defensively can lead to the future. If the Suns are to compete… they must trade JRich and Steve Nash for a chance at the future draft class… ie.. a chance at any potential Dwights, Bosh’s, Derons, CP3s or Brandon Roys.
Portland, Houston, New Orleans and Orlando have all struggled… but through drafts like Brandon Roy, Yao Ming, CP3 and Dwight Howard they have all climbed up. That is Phoenix’s only chance.
by SimpleTruth on Jul 4, 2009 4:32 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Steve Nash
Steve Nash’s chances of winning a championship with Robert Horry’s first to his face.
by SimpleTruth on Jul 4, 2009 4:32 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bring the Running Rebel back
Shawn Marion was the heart and soul of the Suns.He made Raja better,because he allowed Raja to overplay and not worry about getting beat because Shawn was behind him saving his butt. Shawn made so many steals and started the fast break which padded Steves Nash’s assist totals.Shawn guarded the opposing teams best player and always did a great job.Marion was the best offensive rebounder and defensive rebounder.It was foolish to let him go and it has been the biggest mistake Kerr’s ever made.I wish the Suns would do everything they can to bring him back.I would also like to see the team bring Grant hill back, He finally had a full season and did a Fantastic job.As far as going after a center I would like to see the Suns go after Varajeo,he is young and atheletic and would be aggresive on defense.He can play the pick and roll defense pretty good at least better than Shaq ever did.If they were to sign this guy,the team would basically be swapping centers with Clevland .Nash,Richardson,Marion,Stoudimire,and Varajeo would be a better team than last years team and you could have Hill,Drajic,Barbosa,Dudley,Amundson and Lopez as backup players and still have room to incorporate Tucker, Clark,and possibly Griffin into the team. I really think this team would be a playoff team. It would be young and energetic team that could bring back the excitement to PHX. Suns basketball.
by RowdyReno on Jul 4, 2009 4:38 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
marian turned down
30 million for 4 years with toronto. I saw that CAVS are thinking about using the full MLE for him, as well as Portland ability to offer more then the MLE.
If hes willing to only take the MLE we should definitely do it!
by dontTradeAaronNelson! on Jul 4, 2009 5:02 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought the Raptors
took the money off of the table because of Turkolu?
"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"
by Grockcubs on Jul 4, 2009 6:47 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
oops...
didn’t really make my self very clear. I meant to show that he rejected that tentative offer last week so It seems unlikely he believes hes only a Mid level Exception type of player.
by dontTradeAaronNelson! on Jul 4, 2009 7:10 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am usually
a glass half full guy, however with the Suns I just don’t see it that way.
1. Standing pat with the roster as is, I just don’t see any marked improvement to the point that they can get into the 7th or 8th seed.
So in that case I would trade both Nash and Amare, to get younger and to get No. 1 picks.
Bring in Beads, David Lee, Azebuke, sign Sessions.
The only problem getting picks, and making these deals is that Steve Kerr is in charge or Sarver is telling the boy what to do.
The Suns have put themselves into a tough corner. I just don’t see a Nash/Amare led team will make a run, not with the Spurs, Lakers, Denver, and Portland in the West. I think there are hard times ahead if the Suns hold onto to Nash and Amare. Time to cut the losses.
I hate to say it, but this team needs a over haul, players and cap space, that is the only way to bring a NBA championship to the valley.
"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"
by Grockcubs on Jul 4, 2009 6:59 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
People say we can't make it with Nash and Amare
But there is no way in a hundred years that Sessions and Lee EVER get CLOSE to the level Nash and Amare play at. We’re talking about a two time MVP and an perennial All-Star. I don’t see Lee, Sessions, or Beadrins ever making the all star team. We may not have the best chance to win a title, but entertaining is still worth something.
by UASun on Jul 4, 2009 9:29 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
The key is to get picks
The Suns have screwed themselves numerous times by treating draft picks as salary dumps. This has comeback hard and has hurt this team. Sure the players we may get for Nash and Amare may not be All Stars, but besides entertainment value how many championships or for that matter how many appearances in the finals has this squad produced?
Suns need picks and need to get younger.
"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"
by Grockcubs on Jul 5, 2009 5:08 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
This made my head hurt.
Read this on Real GM for Minnesota’s 2010 1st round pick. Maybe it’s the wine, but there were too many words here and I got confused
2010 first round draft pick from Utah
Utah’s own 2010 1st round pick to Minnesota via Philadelphia (top 15 protected in 2010, top 17 protected in 2011, top 16 protected in 2012, and top 16 protected in the 2013 Draft). However, if Utah’s own 2010 first round draft is not protected, and if Utah is entitled to receive New York’s own 2010 first round draft pick, then Utah shall convey to Minnesota via Philadelphia the least favorable of its own 2010 first round draft pick and New York’s 2010 first round draft pick. If Minnesota via Philadelphia does not receive a first round draft pick from Utah pursuant to the foregoing in any of the Drafts from 2009 through 2013, then Utah’s obligation to send a first round draft pick to Minnesota via Philadelphia shall be extinguished and Utah shall instead convey to Minnesota via Philadelphia Utah’s own 2014 second round draft pick and pay to Philadelphia cash. [Philadelphia – Utah, 12/29/2007 and then Minnesota – Philadelphia, 7/9/2008]
by ArizonaCactus on Jul 4, 2009 10:05 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
DO NOT READ ABOVE COMMENT
Possible side affects are Permanent Brain-Damage and/or Death
Just kidding.
but seriously….what the hell does that even mean? I thought my head was gonna explode trying to make sense of that
by Batmanthesunsfan on Jul 4, 2009 10:15 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
RE
Nice centerpiece. I’m beginning to wonder if this type of management style was forged with the Moyer Gretzky affair. Can you see the similarities?
by RogerM on Jul 5, 2009 9:17 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Stand Pat LOL
Options 2&3 are a no way in hell. lets face it the playes we can get back in exchange for trading Nash and Amare and not even decent. if Nash or Amare gets traded before we play the first game of the season then i will be suprised.
Amare is a top 5 PF and Nash is a top 4 PG in the league and we should at least keep them for this season so that we can have a good team and a chance to reach the playoffs(probably 8th spot since Houston have no ming and mcgrady for the first half of the season)
Reason being Sarvar needs a winning product on the floor so he can sell tickets and he can at least make even ( i read somewhere last season if we played a couple of home games in the playoffs then he would have made even).
im open to trade jrich only problem is his contract, he played ok since the trade nothing wow or nothing bad, if we can get 1 year expiring contracts then great and a 2010 pick would be even better.
speaking of 2010 draft we can not for any reason tank. if we make the playoffs and have a 50 win season then our 2010 draft pick position(which OCK own) will be in the 20’s and im ok with that any wins lower than 50 then OKC will become one of the upcomming teams(proably the best put togeather) in the league.
Nash will only sign if Amare is on the roster this year and if we find big men in free agency.
Gortat,Puchulia, Fry, varejao, skinner in that order for a big man.
Hill, Marion for SF. i dont know anyone else maybe get barnes back
after doing some research i would opt for Rodney Carney as a back up plan. or my d-league favourite Othyus Jeffers ( d-league rookie of the year, kind of like a poor mans trevor ariza)
choose your prefered players for the links below
http://www.rotoevil.com/nba/2009-free-agents-small-forwards
http://www.rotoevil.com/nba/2009-free-agents-centers
i guess it depends on the Ben Wallace situation or if managment decides to trade him for chandler i guess we will find out in the next couple of months
by phxuk: Ap on Jul 5, 2009 3:48 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I am thinking
that an alternate title to this post could have been “The Phoenix Suns summer of Depends”
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by Seth Pollack on Jul 5, 2009 5:08 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lets do this
Tyson Chandler-C-Hornets Jul. 5 – 5:30 pm et
According to a recent Twitter post by Ric Bucher, the Suns can trade Ben Wallace to the Hornets for Tyson Chandler “any time they want.”
“[The Suns] are checking all other options before going down that road,” writes Bucher. The Hornets have $77.5 million in committed salaries for next season, one of the highest payrolls in the NBA. They have reached out to free agents Brandon Bass and Jannero Pargo but don’t have much room to maneuver financially.
Source: Twitter
by GobbleforCyoung on Jul 5, 2009 7:04 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
love the flow chart, that is exactly what's happening
Clearly mgmt is open to all options at this point, and so are the players.
Who are these guys again?
by ZonaFlash on Jul 5, 2009 7:15 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Option 1
I think its right to stand pat at this point. Under different circumstances I would say trade jRich and I still think that to some degree. However, I dont think we will get a good trade for him anywhere (not withstanding the large numbers of Ak47 for JRich people…like thats going to happen). Get Chandler for Wallace indeed. But with the Lakes signing Artest and the Celtics signing Sheed and the Cavs getting Shaq…we are definitely out of the loop. IF we keep Rich then next season we lose his salary and can pour some money into a prime free agent. With Amare Nash Chandler, who wouldn’t want to come here especially if our team does even moderately well this coming season.
Go read a book!
by N8lol on Jul 6, 2009 11:08 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

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