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Maybe we're not a championship team right now, but we absolutely have the potential to rebuild quickly. I think signing Shawn Marion would be a step backwards, and perhaps what we might want to consider is jumping on the youth bandwagon, which basically created, in the early 2000's, the SSoL Suns we came to know and love. Who says we can't do it again? I think signing anyone over 24 or 25, even, is dangerous, like Grant Hill or Shawn Marion.

In other words, trading Nash, J-Rich and even Amare might help a lot. I think it would be dangerous to trade for anyone drafted in 2004 or earlier.

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I'm going to rattle off a list of prospects for you in the coming months, years, drafts, free agencies, whatever. You decide.

2009 free agency

-Marvin Williams. Yes, we all know him as the guy that came before Deron Williams and Chris Paul in '05, but he's still got some improving to do. His 3PT shot is coming along. He can at least be a solid role player.

2010 draft

Noted on ESPN to be one of the strongest in history, to capitalize here might be a serious asset.

-John Wall. Think Derrick Rose. Then think of Derrick Rose finishing every shot. Then think of Derrick Rose with Ty Lawson speed. Then think of 10 APG. Now you have John Wall.

-Derrick Favors. 20/10/1 BLK/1 STL every single night. This kid could do us wonders one day.

-Ed Davis. Think of all the 4's that could get you 1 BLK. Now, how many could get you two? This is why I like Ed Davis.

-Cole Aldrich. You've seen this guy already. He went a little unnoticed thanks to B-Griff, but he put up stats that were just as mindblowing (15/11/1 BLK) last year. Plus, King Cole's 6'11" and a natural 4.

-Willie Warren. I feel like he's more of a 2, but he could probably run the point pretty well too. He was the best freshman in the country last year, though, and he could crack the top 3.

-Greg Monroe. Greg Monroe is a 6'10" Matrix. I will repeat: Greg Monroe is a 6'10" Matrix. Imagine how many rebounds Shawn Marion could've brought down had he been 6'10".

2010 free agency

- (sucks up air) Rajon Rondo, Tyrus Thomas, Carl Landry, Mario Chalmers, Randy Foye (for instance). We all know what these guys bring to the table.

The trick is to fit in with the ten roles of basketball which I can explain upon further demand (shooter, scorer, guard-like, forward-like, banger, distributor, specialist, defender, instant offense, variety show). Once you have one of each on a ten-man rotation, you essentially have the perfect basketball team. Teams have come close, but none yet have accomplished it.

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Interesting theory on the ten roles. Where did you hear of it? Or did you invent it?

I like Marvin Williams a lot, and agree he is getting better.

by RD74 on Jul 7, 2009 5:20 PM MDT reply actions  

yeah...

i’m actually really intrigued. interesting concept.

by Trevor Paxton on Jul 7, 2009 7:16 PM MDT up reply actions  

i really like your strategy

much rather have him than marion and hes only 23 and improving. how much money is he going for? i think he would be a solid addition to the suns

hopefully clark turns into a solid pf or better which would give us 2 young stars assuming williams keeps improving plus whoever we aquire through trades

also think we should make the trade for chandler and if our training staff say they cant fix him after examination we do what the thunder did and send him back

by cap space on Jul 7, 2009 8:19 PM MDT reply actions  

The ten roles

I’ve never played a game of organized basketball in my life, but I’ve been studying it a long time. I know what a perfect team takes, and I’ve realized that the idea is not to pile up on any one statistic, any one characteristic. We shoot the ball really well, but we sacrifice on defense. The Bobcats play defense, but they don’t have any scoring. Once you learn to balance your stats and characteristics, you have a championship team.

There are ten basic types of players. Kobe and LeBron and some of the greatest names in the game have been many of these, but that just means they can be any one of the things they are and add some versatility.

Shooter- someone who can give you 50% FG, 40% 3PT, and 90% FT, or close. Ray Allen comes to mind. Typically should start at the 2. Code: SH.

Scorer- someone who can score 30 PPG, and give you 50 at will. Allen Iverson comes to mind. Typically should start at the 3. Think Elgin Baylor or Dr. J. Code: SC.

Distributor- someone who can give you plenty of assists and less than 3 turnovers. Muggsy Bogues is the ultimate example. 89-90= 10.8 AST, 1.8 TO. Perfect. Doesn’t have to shoot well. Typically starts at the 1. Code: DIST.

Guard-like- a forward who plays like a guard. Often, he’ll give you a STL, or a 3, or more than 3 AST. Kevin Garnett comes to mind. Typically starts at the 4. Code: GL.

Banger- someone who gives you lots of rebounds and blocks, regardless of scoring or decent percentages. Shaquille O’Neal works well here. Typically starts at the 5. Code: BANG.

Instant offense- just add water. Someone who doesn’t need a lot of minutes to score 10-15 pts. JR Smith is an example. Typically comes off the bench at the 2. Code: IO.

Forward-like- a guard who plays like a forward. Often, he’ll give you 5 rebounds and 5 ast, a couple points or more, and possibly a block or a steal. Percentages are, again, discounted. Jason Kidd and Mike Miller come to mind. Kobe Bryant sort of fits the definition; then again, he’s Kobe Bryant. He fits plenty of definitions. Typically comes off the bench at the 3 or the 1. Code: FL.

Variety show- someone who gives you a little bit of everything. 1 blk, 1 stl and 1 3PT, 2 blk 2 stl guys are the perfect example. Shawn Marion doesn’t come off the bench, but he does this well. Mostly comes off the bench at any position but the 5. Code: VS.

Defender- a hard-nosed, sometimes called “dirty” player who simply mans somebody up well. Bruce Bowen comes to mind. Mostly comes off the bench at the 3, but sometimes at the 2. Code: DE.

Specialist- does one thing, and does it well. Chris Andersen is a block specialist. Trevor Ariza is a steal specialist. Comes off the bench at any position. Code: SP.

Our depth chart looks like this:

Nash/Dragic
J-Rich/Barbosa
(Hill?)/Barnes
Clark/Amundson
Stoudemire/Lopez

until further notice. But it also looks like:

DIST/IO
SC/IO
IO/IO
GL/IO
BANG/DF

That’s a lot of instant offense. That doesn’t surprise me, considering we’re great on offense. Steve Nash counts as a shooter, but he doesn’t really shoot the ball all that often. We would need:

a shooter
a specialist
a variety show
a forward-like

In other words, we’re missing 4/10. The more you’re missing, the more you stink.

I think signing a guy like Tyrus Thomas might be beneficial. I think dealing a guy like J-Rich might be beneficial. I think finding a way to deal Stoudemire to the Warriors with Curry (somehow), maybe even at the sacrifice of Biedrins if we can put a Chandler/Wallace deal together, might be beneficial. I think now you can see why.

Just so you don’t think I’m crazy, let’s take a look at the Celtics, 07-08.

Rondo/House
R. Allen/T. Allen
Pierce/Posey
Garnett/Powe
Perkins/Brown

which also looks like:

FL/IO
SH/IO
SC/IO
GL/BANG
DF/BANG

The thing is, their starting lineup was pretty much perfect. Whenever the starters came in, as you noticed, they wrapped things up. Only when it came to the second unit did things start to fall apart. They were missing a true distributor and a variety show. Not so bad. The thing is, they were actually better this year with KG. Without KG, they were horribly worse.

It’s a theory I made up myself, and it holds true. No team has ever come up with the perfect 10 role system, and unless someone besides me figures it out, no team will.

by hookedonphoenix on Jul 8, 2009 9:15 PM MDT reply actions  

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