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Rudy Fernandez, who's place as the NBA's most beloved Spaniard was threatened by Rubio's adorable boyish charm is believed to have offered Ricky's parents and undisclosed sum for the boy-band leader/point guard to remain in Europe for at least two more years

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Rudy Fernandez, who's place as the NBA's most beloved Spaniard was threatened by Rubio's adorable boyish charm is believed to have offered Ricky's parents and undisclosed sum for the boy-band leader/point guard to remain in Europe for at least two more years

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All this Rubio talk has to have Johnny Flynn wondering if they think he’s worth his pick… based on what I’ve seen (and it’s not that much!), I think Flynn is gonna be a sick PG in the NBA; probably better than Rubio, at least rookie vs rookie

by SunsFTW on Sep 1, 2009 11:07 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

No sympathy for the T-Wolves..

Rubio didn’t want to be drafted by the T-Wolves, said as much, and they drafted him anyway. Now they’re complaining.

In any case, it’s time to get rid of the draft. It’s a relic, a fascist system and, for the most part, doesn’t work as intended. The teams that are crappy now, are the same teams that were crappy 5 and 10 years ago. Good players, on those teams, simply move on via free-agency or trade.

Replace the draft with a limited number of rookie roster slots. Allow one slot/year to be special, where you can sign a player for 3 years, guaranteed, on a normal salary scale, and the rest to be one year, minimum salary slots.

Also add the provision that if a team signs you to a 1 year slot, another team is allowed to sign you to a 3 year slot, within a certain time period, so that players are allowed to move freely, within that time period, if their contracts are not guaranteed.

If you want to have an event, have a signing day, or negotiation week, where those contracts are announced, and during which these transactions can take place. Contracts in place at the end of the week then become binding.

"True glory consists of doing what deserves to be written, and writing what deserves to be read".

by Pliny the Elder on Sep 1, 2009 3:19 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

So rookies

at some point (based on age or whatever) what simply become free agents and it would be a free for all?

That would make the balance between the have’s and have not’s even worse unless there was a serious and hard salary cap (without all the exceptions and the ability to rich teams to pay a lux tax)

Look at how the Sonics and Blazers have used the draft to rebuild their teams…I wouldn’t call the draft a bust.

by Seth Pollack on Sep 1, 2009 4:04 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

except the salary cap still applies.

so, what you’d get is teams bidding against each other for the services of a rookie. In the case of a rookie slot, I’d support capping the value of the slot if the team is over the cap, where such teams would be able to offer less money than a more fiscally well behaved organization, and the more you’re over the cap, the less you’d be able to offer. The only concession I’d make for being a rookie is to limit each contract to 3 years, for a premium slot player, and maybe 2 years for other rookie players.

In that case, rookies would have to choose between teams who can pay them, can offer them a lower value premium slot, or a minimum salary contract with the team of their choice, providing, of course, that team wants to sign them.

Even if you gave each team an unlimited number of premium slots, they still couldn’t sign all the players they wanted, for the same reason teams can’t do that with regular players: the salary cap, playing time, playing styles, etc….

Furthermore, I don’t believe in age limits, especially for the purpose of supporting the NCAA. LeBron was good enough at 18 to play in the NBA, and if any other players come along, who are capable of doing the same thing, they should be allowed to play without restriction.

In no other country do they have such a system. All soccer players in Europe, for instance, sign with a team, as a junior player. They either play in the 2nd team (equivalent of the NBA’s D league), or they play for the main team.

You mention the Sonics and the Blazers. But the Blazers have historically been a good organization, and have consistently, over time, made the playoffs, and deep runs into the playoffs including a few finals appearances. As for the Thunder, well I’m not sure how encouraged they should be about a 23 & 59 record.

What I want to stop happening is for good talent to be exiled to bad organizations such as the Timberwolves, Clippers or Memphis, organizations that have barely touched the playoffs, over the course of their existence, and are mediocre/bad, year in and year out.

"True glory consists of doing what deserves to be written, and writing what deserves to be read".

by Pliny the Elder on Sep 1, 2009 8:45 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

european soccer clubs

turn out a lot of less-talented players who end up squandering their primes chasing an unrealistic dream who then end up working for peanuts without an education

oh … I guess that is like Div-I sports

Mmmmm ... Guinness

by JSun on Sep 2, 2009 10:15 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't get me started about Div-I or the rest of the NCAA..

A system where coaches make multi-million dollar salaries, and college players careers are ended for accepting even a free cheeseburger. Corrupt doesn’t even being to cover it.

"True glory consists of doing what deserves to be written, and writing what deserves to be read".

by Pliny the Elder on Sep 2, 2009 11:44 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

The entire concept

of “student athletes” as “amateurs” is seriously out-dated….and a total racket

by Seth Pollack on Sep 2, 2009 11:45 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

only in some sports

it’s not a racket for the swim team, and the womens’ softball team is not getting abused by the system

Mmmmm ... Guinness

by JSun on Sep 2, 2009 2:15 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good point

the big money sports like..mainly men’s college football and basketball

by Seth Pollack on Sep 2, 2009 2:22 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

not completely true...

even in the case of swimming or other sports whose cycle is defined by global events like the Olympics, the same kind of thing still goes on, even though it’s at a reduced level. It depends on the school, and on the sport.

The irony of it all, is that while the NCAA aims to be protecting the integrity of the sports in question, the reason for doing so is for gamblers to be able to make bets fairly. The NCAA doesn’t really care about the integrity of sports: it only cares about the revenue those sports generate. Title IX didn’t originate with the NCAA, it was forced on them by law.

"True glory consists of doing what deserves to be written, and writing what deserves to be read".

by Pliny the Elder on Sep 2, 2009 5:16 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

Man, I love the draft...

Granted it aint perfect by any means but its a good system that keeps from having a league where all of the top rookie talent goes to the teams with lots of money in big markets that don’t mind luxury penalties. If you don’t believe that the draft can make a difference, clearly you weren’t paying attention during the 2003 NBA draft. Plus, you complain that bottom teams stay at the bottom in this system, what happens in the system you propose? All of the top talent is going to go to established teams and teams such as Minnesota/Indiana are going to have to struggle because players aren’t exactly lining up to play in those places – the only way they get top talent is through trade or draft because FA’s go to better climate’s/bigger markets and you’d basically be turning rookies into FA’s.

by watdogg10 on Sep 1, 2009 4:05 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed. There is probably no good alternative.

by lonesomepoint on Sep 1, 2009 8:07 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

teams like the Clippers should not be rewarded for continually sucking.

The draft, per se does nothing. It’s the players who make the difference, and those players would still be available in what I’m proposing. Actually, I’d add a rule to prevent teams from signing rookies (and doing other transactions) until the season is over.

So, instead of a draft, you’d have an auction, except that teams would be limited by the salary cap, and rookies would choose what offers to accept or decline. Basically, free-agency with some restrictions.

Does it really matter, except sentimentally, that LeBron signed with Cleveland instead of the Knicks, for instance? Don’t you think he should have been allowed to earn a full salary, back then? especially with all the people (David Stern, cough) who used him to make money.

"True glory consists of doing what deserves to be written, and writing what deserves to be read".

by Pliny the Elder on Sep 1, 2009 8:56 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

The change I would like to see

is more use of the “developmental” league for young players. This is more cultural than anything else, but in baseball drafted players spend several years in the minors.

In the NBA fans, etc expect too much of rookies too soon. It would be hard to change that but having more of the rookies spend a year or two in the NBA minor’s would be a big benefit. Of course it would cost the teams more $ too…

by Seth Pollack on Sep 1, 2009 4:12 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Absolutely!

Goran Dragic should not be in an NBA uniform until at least next year…but they didn’t send him to the D-League to develop and didn’t leave him in Europe to develop. Instead they suited him up too early and hyped/paid him WAY too much. Unfortunately, the Suns aren’t alone in making these types of mistakes.

by watdogg10 on Sep 1, 2009 4:20 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ricky Rubio makes me uncomfortable. I am wondering if he’s a snob.

by lonesomepoint on Sep 1, 2009 8:06 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

he's a one-man boy band

Stop blamin' Sarver/Kerr/Shaq/Amare/Stern for a bit. It gets old =D

by ZonaFlash on Sep 1, 2009 8:18 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I suppose so—I have hardly paid enough attention to boy bands to know. He needs a blasted haircut, but at least he shaves..

by lonesomepoint on Sep 2, 2009 12:02 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

Go read a book!

by N8lol on Sep 2, 2009 8:12 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh…until now, I had no idea Rubio was in a boy band.

by lonesomepoint on Sep 2, 2009 7:26 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Huh?

Whats with the Wiz being number 10? If thats not the biggest turn around in NBA history what is?

Go read a book!

by N8lol on Sep 2, 2009 8:13 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

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