Sir Goran Dragic and the great battle...
by watdogg10 on Sep 23, 2009 12:54 PM MDT
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For the past year, our noble King Stan has championed for Sir Goran Dragic - a noble knight that was brought to our land from another world. This young knight brought with him hope, a hope for a brighter future once our beloved Steve the Great leaves the kingdom after having fought his final battle. Sir Goran came to our land amidst much fan fare and with great expectations.
However, not everyone in the kingdom saw the same attributes in the young knight that caused the noble King to hope. Rumblings were heard throughout the kingdom. At first, these rumblings were small…nothing more than the bitter regrets often heard on the lips of old men after much drink. Slowly, the rumblings began to grow louder until they reached a point where it was necessary for somebody to stand up to the great king. But who? Nobody dare stand up to His Highness lest they should be banished from the great kingdom and forced to fend for themselves in the coldest and darkest regions of great Empire of the Internet. As time passed the calls for opposition to the King reached a point where finally, a lowly peasant known only as the Dog of Watt stood up and declared aloud his opposition.
The line was drawn as both sides declared their positions. The Great King pleaded for patience, “I pray you, give our young Champion time and he shall prove to be the chosen hero prophesied by the great Mystics.” The Dog of Watt retorted “Enough time has passed old man! The young knight must go for surely a better option shall present itself to us.” The clash was so great and terrible that all within the kingdom were forced to choose sides. Just as the kingdom was about to be torn in half, it was decided that enough blood had been shed and that surely a peaceful arrangement could be reached. King Stan met with the peasant and negotiated for the space of many hours. Finally, an agreement treaty agreement was reached and terms set forth. Continue reading and then choose your side.
The terms of the treaty agreement are as follows:
Article I: Sir Goran Dragic must average over 10 minutes each battle as the military captain (PG) during the latter third of this the year of Our Lord Two Thousand and Ten.
Article II: The army must be on the verge of conquering all foes (in the playoff hunt).
Article III: Should Sir Goran Dragic prove to be a worthy military captain, the Great King Stan shall be proclaimed the victor but in the event that Sir Goran Dragic is unable to prove himself, the Dog of Watt will stand victorious.
Article IV: Should the army be unable to prove itself a worthy conquerer in Stern’s empire, the wager shall become void.
The prize to be won:
Article I: The loser of the wager must admit defeat and NEVER mention the name of Sir Goran Dragic in the great kingdom again…punishable by death!
It is said that the biggest of men are those who stick to their principles when push comes to shove while being able to admit their mistakes when they are wrong. The time is now, who will come out victorious and who will have to come to grips with his mistake. What say you?
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Article I: The loser of the wager shall claim victory while the loser must admit defeat and NEVER mention the name of Sir Goran Dragic in the great kingdom again…punishable by death!
the loser claims victory?
+.. 10 minutes??? he played 13.2 minutes per game last season..
lol
by BJabs on Sep 23, 2009 1:34 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
But he only played in 55 games...
I think the idea is that he is the “primary” backup at PG, meaning he sees those 10+ minutes every night.
by ajotanelsona on Sep 23, 2009 1:50 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
you edited it..gee I wish I can edit my post
why can’t we edit our posts? I’ve never seen a blog besides for this one where you can’t edit your comments
by BJabs on Sep 23, 2009 4:01 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a good point
SBN has a list of requested features and that is high on that list along with being able to subscribe to the comments so you get updates via email….
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by Phoenix Stan on Sep 23, 2009 4:39 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha made me laugh
I’m the first in support of the Great Dog of Watt
This season will be even better as long as I'm drinking while watching!
by ZonaFlash on Sep 23, 2009 1:36 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Well done, good sir
the contest begins
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by Phoenix Stan on Sep 23, 2009 5:27 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
This is pretty dang funny and well thought out.
"I’m tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money. I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok." ~Shaq
by Max_in_Missouri on Sep 30, 2009 12:43 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
tis the offseason
and I’ve not the time atm for eurobaskets nor, sadly, winbas.
This season will be even better as long as I'm drinking while watching!
by ZonaFlash on Sep 23, 2009 1:38 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
How is Article III to be determined? By what standard shall Sir Goran be judged?
This season will be even better as long as I'm drinking while watching!
by ZonaFlash on Sep 23, 2009 1:42 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Basically...
Goran has to play over 10 minutes as the point guard. This means he has to run the offense on the floor and be the primary ball handler. No passing it to somebody up high then running to the wing to hide…no giving it to Lopez when he’s pressured in the backcourt (which he actually did on more than 1 occasion last season) – he has to be the Point Guard…Stan and I will get together probably with the other featured bloggers/editors/bloggers in chief to hash out who actually wins the bet starting at some point towards the end of the season.
by watdogg10 on Sep 23, 2009 1:45 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I volunteer PanamaSun, as an internationally reknown PG to be the arbiter.
If PanamaSun cannot spot good work at the PG spot, no one can.
This season will be even better as long as I'm drinking while watching!
by ZonaFlash on Sep 23, 2009 1:48 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I suspect
that there won’t be much disagreement when the time comes…he’ll either deliver or he wont
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by Phoenix Stan on Sep 23, 2009 5:28 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I suspect we will be spending next offseason exactly like this one...
completely on the fence about Dragic.
This season will be even better as long as I'm drinking while watching!
by ZonaFlash on Sep 23, 2009 10:47 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is not that easy
You see, we are still talking about Goran and all of us have different opinions about him. Some of us feel he did a good job for a rookie and some of us disagree with that. I’ll pay close attention to him this season and I’ll gather supporting information to see who wins the bet. It’s on baby!
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
by PanamaSun on Sep 24, 2009 10:04 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
sorry but...
It’s a dumb bet. Shouldn’t it be tied more into meaningful stats like points/assists/to’s/steals? Why is it just 10 mpg? Of course he’ll play 10 minutes per game. And, during those minutes of course he will be depended on to be the primary ball-handler (when Nash is out). Wha tis more important is if they will be productive minutes.
by willthehawk on Sep 23, 2009 1:49 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Then it looks like...
I’ve already lost…oh well lets just wait and see anyway.
by watdogg10 on Sep 23, 2009 1:50 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think those concerns have already been addressed, yeah?
PSN ID- presbot
by presbot on Sep 23, 2009 2:05 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
wager!
if Dragic becomes a NBA point guard for the future Watdogg you must forever call him sir. Dragic.
if he doesn’t pan out Stan must call him tragic….
by dontTradeAaronNelson! on Sep 23, 2009 1:55 PM MDT reply actions 2 recs
He probably has other things to do, but I notice that Stan hasn’t answered this.
by Species8472 on Sep 23, 2009 3:24 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Not to worry...
This isn’t some wager I’m making with him behind his back. All of the origins of this wager can be found here:
http://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2009/9/14/1029289/lowering-our-expectations-dragic#21287824
by watdogg10 on Sep 23, 2009 3:29 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes...busy day
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by Phoenix Stan on Sep 23, 2009 5:29 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
skillz
is what you need. I don’t see the raw talent there, and never really have except in 2-3 minute stretches in junk time.
Dog of Watt, I’m with you on this one. Just this once.
by PHXgp on Sep 23, 2009 4:51 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the support...
Does this mean that you generally hate me (or the persona I have on this site), but are okay with me in this one instance? Not that there’s anything wrong with that, just wondering.
by watdogg10 on Sep 23, 2009 5:31 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Love you Dog of Watt.
Your comic strips ctack me up. Have not been as successful as you in getting my suggested blog. On the other hand, have not as yet been banished to the forbidden forrest, as has been threatened by King Stan for having a different “point” of view.
I play the game and am a student of the game. This knight does not have a clue how to play the point. It’s JUST NOT HIS GAME. His game is to play off the ball. Look at his horrific point record for the Suns and more recently in Euro ball. This “knight” consistently gets MORE turnovers than assists. Look at his +/- stat!!!! Play him at the point at the risk of the team? Like the twin, I vote to leave him out of our 10-man rotation and confine his play to practice and slop time. Only if Coach Gentry sees the knight grow before his very eyes, should we allow him to play with the team. What he can do is drive the lane. Suns already have MANY better options for the 2 spot. What to do for a back up to Nash? Sign Zabian or take Sean back and have them duel it out in practice? Trade for a better prospect for the team? The better man wins. But our owner does not want to spend another cent. Forget, in his mind, what is good for the team. THIS leaves us with making the best of what we have. BEST IDEA at point is to have LB who, like the “knight”, does not possess true point skills, play 40 minutes. THIS plan involves far LESS RISK for the team. Approximately one-third of his playing time to be devoyed to backing Nash. Rest of LB’s playing time should be used to start and ALSO finish the game at the 2 spot. He has by far the MOST stamina and energy on the team.
MUST start and ALSO finish with the Brazilian Blur. Let’s go SUNS!!!!.
by BCrayZ on Sep 24, 2009 11:08 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
If it’s one thing Goran has, it’s raw talent. Translating that to consistent talent or consistent play and then wins is a different matter.
by Wil Cantrell on Sep 24, 2009 7:08 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually watdogg thinks Goran hath not talent
and I think it’s likely he will not work as hard as Nash did in the gym, not b/c he’s bad, but because few work as hard as Nash did.
This season will be even better as long as I'm drinking while watching!
by ZonaFlash on Sep 24, 2009 9:17 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know the guy obviously. I suppose it would depend on how badly he wants to make it in the NBA.
by Wil Cantrell on Sep 24, 2009 1:50 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Latter third of 2011?
Do you mean Sep through Dec two years from now? He only needs to get 10 minutes in preseason and early regular season games two years from now?
How is anyone going to remember that you guys even made a bet?
Mmmmm ... Guinness
by JSun on Sep 23, 2009 5:19 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
It's supposed to be this season...
Not sure who edited it but it’s the end of this coming season…2010.
by watdogg10 on Sep 23, 2009 5:23 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I editted it
since yes, it will be 2011 when the crucial judgment time comes…you can edit it back or otherwise clarify that we mean this season 2010/11
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by Phoenix Stan on Sep 23, 2009 5:30 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
uh...
well…yes…but…what time is it?…uh…the king has no clothes…hmmmm…uh…
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by Phoenix Stan on Sep 23, 2009 5:49 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
2nd quarter of 2010, right?
that would be April through June of 2010
Mmmmm ... Guinness
by JSun on Sep 23, 2009 5:57 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Goran Dragic doubles his per-36-minute production from last year...
And if somehow he gets 15 minutes a game…he’ll average 10 points, 4 assists, and 6 turnovers a game!
"I always believe there's a reason why you go through everything." -John Elway
by LACK on Sep 23, 2009 9:23 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Good stuff, Dog of Watt.
If Stan is King, who are the Knights who say ni? I want to be one of them.
by Wil Cantrell on Sep 24, 2009 7:10 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
I personally want to be a knight who says iki iki iki butang zuboing….
Go read a book!
by N8lol on Sep 24, 2009 7:28 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed. You be him. I’ve changed my mind. I want to be Lancelot as he slaughters all of the wedding party-twice.
by Wil Cantrell on Sep 24, 2009 1:51 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I as a member of the opressed
support you, mighty Dog of Watt! However pleased I am with the King’s work in most of his kingdom, the support of Sir Dragic is mind-boggling. Sir Dragic the Not-Quite-So-Brave-As-Sir-Nash, who had nearly fought the fierce Parker of San Antonio, almost stood to the vicious chicken of Denver, and personally wet himself at the Battle for Staples Center, is, quite frankly a peasant disguising himself as a knight.
Go Watt Revolution!
Libertarianism is just Anarchy for rich people
by Murcy on Sep 24, 2009 7:58 AM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Huh?
Who’s the vicious chicken of Denver? Carmelo Anthony, for hitting someone and then backpedaling?
by Species8472 on Sep 24, 2009 5:57 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Glad to see the people support their king...
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by Phoenix Stan on Sep 24, 2009 9:32 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Here's to hoping Sir Goran isn't Sir Lancelot.
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
by SunDolphin on Sep 25, 2009 6:01 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm still a Goran fan
Steve Kerr isn’t a moron and they saw something in Goran Dragic to make them believe he can make it. If he doesn’t make it, it’s not because the talent Kerr and Co. saw wasn’t there at all, but because coach couldn’t coach up.
But of course if that’s the case, Kerr is a much better judge of talent than he is a judge of coaching and either way it’s bad.
Of course I also trust in Alven Gentry, being blinded by my utter faith and loyalty to my team. I even believe in Stat right now. All will change come January or February when we see what we’ve got, or later if we crack towards the end, but it’s preseason and I’m in reset mode.
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
by SunDolphin on Sep 25, 2009 6:06 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m with you dude! I’m blinded by loyalty and truly believe we have a shot to go deep in the playoffs & get to the finals (assuming someone upsets the lakers and/or spurs) as long as everyone stays healthy and the team gels with each other. I just can’t wait for pre-season to start!
by SunsFTW on Sep 25, 2009 12:12 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Injuries, what are those?
Bad things that happen to other teams.
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
by SunDolphin on Sep 25, 2009 12:19 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m with you too. I mean, I “cheerfully” sat through the entire 2003-04 season. Wonder why Jahidi White didn’t stick.
by Species8472 on Sep 25, 2009 3:42 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
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