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Sarver losing bank, literally.

Actually, despite the pomp and circumstance, the article also says the parent bank run personally by Sarver had to make a $200 million dollar public issue in July, in the middle of a recession. He, by selling a piece of his bank in the midst of a recession, basically lost his shirt as well as some bank.

Stop blamin' Sarver/Kerr/Shaq/Amare/Stern for a bit. It gets old =D

by ZonaFlash on Sep 3, 2009 4:30 PM MDT reply actions  

Huh?

I he was able to sell stock on the public market he personally took in that money (assuming it was stock he owned). I don’t know what the issue price was and perhaps you could argue he could have made more later, but cash in hand is cash in hand

by Seth Pollack on Sep 3, 2009 4:38 PM MDT up reply actions  

You don't sell in a down market, unless you are desperate.

When people are hoarding cash, getting them to give you 200 million of it will take a very profitable deal, for them. More for them, less for you.

Stop blamin' Sarver/Kerr/Shaq/Amare/Stern for a bit. It gets old =D

by ZonaFlash on Sep 3, 2009 4:50 PM MDT up reply actions  

Your killing me

with your B-school thinking. That kind of “profit maximization” mentality is what got us into this mess.

He found a buyer for his paper. He sold the potential for future returns. Someone(s) spent money today on a promise.

Don’t look a gift investor in the mouth just b/c you might have been able to get more in the future. $200m is still a lot of $

by Seth Pollack on Sep 3, 2009 6:05 PM MDT up reply actions  

I'm just telling you what it looks like from thousands of public issues in the last 30 years.

Seasoned Equity Offerings and the 1B Assets under Management aside, not sure how one could conclude that Sarver has made or is currently making “bank” here.

1B assets under management when the real interest rate is negative is not particularly indicative of profitability. The company lost $14.1 million in Q2.

As for the SEO, we are not talking about an internet IPO pipe dream, we are talking about a seasoned company and a good operation. If it recovers, then the price for the stock was cheap. If the company goes under, then that just shows how treacherous the situation is for Sarver.

And yes, Western Alliance Bancorp (NYSE: WAL) stock has fallen from $40/share in 2006 and is now at $6.80. It was at $9 before the SEO announcement, so it’s lost 20% since the public stock sale. It’s now in penny stock price territory.

Despite the losses, the upside is that they were able to retire half their TARP warrants.

Stop blamin' Sarver/Kerr/Shaq/Amare/Stern for a bit. It gets old =D

by ZonaFlash on Sep 3, 2009 9:09 PM MDT up reply actions  

He didn't lose his shirt..

maybe a button or two.

"True glory consists of doing what deserves to be written, and writing what deserves to be read".

by Pliny the Elder on Sep 3, 2009 9:10 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

???

im kinda slow and didnt get the Sarvar article, so in simple terms did he make $200million or did he loose $200million

by phxuk: Ap on Sep 3, 2009 6:17 PM MDT reply actions  

He took in 200 million? I don’t know if that means he profited, because he could have also lost more than that, but his having 1 billion in assets sure sounds like he’s making money.

by lonesomepoint on Sep 4, 2009 12:01 PM MDT up reply actions  

On second thought, what do I know about making money?—my degree is in English Literature. Ignore me.

by lonesomepoint on Sep 4, 2009 12:03 PM MDT up reply actions  

Sorry for the flip response

we clearly don’t have agreement on what this means…

by Seth Pollack on Sep 4, 2009 3:57 PM MDT up reply actions  

Nash in China ???

sounds like the name of some avant-garde ballet.

"True glory consists of doing what deserves to be written, and writing what deserves to be read".

by Pliny the Elder on Sep 3, 2009 9:08 PM MDT reply actions  

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