The Future

Umm everyone but Steve Nash? In this trade we lose all of our back court size we already can’t guard any of the two guards in the league this would make it worse raja bell isn’t the same raja bell that clotheslined Kobe anymore even though I like curry i wouldn’t want to give much to get him because hes definitely too small to play the two and he would make our D worse at least J-Rich is tough and helps on the boards. Claxton is old and Anthony Randolphs mind has been destroyed by nellie hes a complete nutcase now I don’t want an Amare-lite when we already got the real thing. So yeah I dont like this trade at all when RoLo gets in the rotation regularly (which seems to be the plan) and Earl Clark starts to see the floor our future is going to be looking bright again with Amare entering his prime, dragic looking like a future starter barbosa being barbosa, j-rich isnt that old, channing frye has lots of basketball in front of him, dudley is young, lou is young and serviceable too.

and then no again. No draft picks. Suns have to acquire picks, no giving them up. We have been down this road to many times how the Suns have just butchered the drafts since 2002. Acquire not trade away please.

where ESPN put the Suns in the “future power rankings” in 2004?

Next subject.

Nash said it best – the team, as compromised, is not more talented than the Grizz. Why do we settle for that? This is the same fan base that was not satisfied with anything less than a championship. Now we are supposed to settle for 50 wins and C+ talent?
This team, as compromised, is the SAME EXACT team we had with Kidd in the beginning of the decade. One extremely talented point guard, one semi-star (Marion then, STAT now) and a bunch of role players combining for 50 wins and a first round exit. What the hell is the point in that?

Also, the comparison to 2004 is silly. We had a little thing called cap space back then. We have none of it now. No youth, no cap space, no championship aspirations.

Most of all, I feel like we owe it to Nash to give him a real shot. I’m proud of the way this team has done at times. I am. But Nash deserves better, and we should roll the dice for him

WHY would we do this? Giving up or future 1 and 4 for a n aging J rich, average Clark, a late 1st rounder and expirings? Are you shi*ing me?

But I’m going to side (mostly) with UASun, here.

I agree with you, NSU Stud, that our team is no longer the “old” team we were touted as a few years ago. Though, when your most important player (I don’t care what you say, Nash is our most important player, tonight against the Kings proved that…not that it needed much proving) is 36 and a player you just extended for two years is 37, you’ve got to wonder how much they have left in the tank. Grant Hill can still fill it up, and is playing with tremendous heart, but he shows his age at times.

And, I don’t think I can say that Frye is better than those two. Curry is a rookie and Randolph is a sophomore. Both are bound to make mistakes. And, when you’re in about as messed up as a system as you can get under Don Nelson, not knowing when you’ll be on the court or when you’ll be pulled, it’s hard to find your niche.

As for Clark, Dudley, Lopez, and Dragic, you can play the comparison game all you want (a la “Dragic plays physical defense!”, “Dudley is the league leader in three point accuracy!”, “Clark just needs time to develop!”, “Curry is too small!”, etc.), but what it boils down to is getting the right players for the system. That’s the ONLY reason you’re saying Frye is a better player than Randolph is. I guarantee that if Frye was still on Portland, you would not be saying those things about Channing. And don’t get me wrong, I am a huge Channing Frye fan. I think his game is invaluable to this system.

But…does that mean I wouldn’t trade him in an attempt to possibly land a fantastic player? No. There comes a point in every fan’s life when you have to stop looking at how entertaining your team is, and ask yourself the brutally honest question: are we even in the contention for the championship? If the answer is no, you can still shake things up. No one should be content with a perennial playoff team that gets bounced in the first or second round. Yes, we have it much better than some other teams (Clippers, Bucks, basically any team in the East that’s not in the top 4), but still, we can improve.

I’m pretty sure that was the only intention of this post. To try and get the ideas flowing about how we can improve ourselves for the future, and set ourselves up for long term success.

Is the worst rebounding center in the league. Channing is a god when compared to him

You probably need a better defense of this trade from the Golden State perspective than stating that their front office is a total “SNAFU.” I mean, if that’s the end of your logic then there’s not much point in discussing this trade at all. The idea that GS would give up its expiring contracts in addition to Curry and Randolph seems fairly untenable to me.

Also, keep in mind that Bell at most will play a month + playoffs this year and it’s still possible he won’t play at all. So inserting his present value to the Suns into the mix probably should be avoided.

For all of the ripping I’ve got for this trade (most of it well-deserved) somebody just posted a J-Rich and Earl Clark for Arenas swap. Give me some credit people.

quite the little brouhaha you all had going here….sorry I missed it (not really)

favorite moment of the day was that “brouhaha” was in my spell check. That’s just awesome