Amare Stoudemire to Golden State Warriors For Corey Maggette?
by Seth Pollack on Jan 28, 2010 9:46 AM MST
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There was a time that I might have been hesitant to post such a thinly sourced rumor but if Chad Ford can drop random references to "locker room tension" on ESPN.com then really, are we doing anything more than following the leader?
No seriously, we still have our standards. This "rumor" comes from an anonymous source on a message board, but he/she has proven over the years to have gotten some things right. And really, if you want to split hairs over Internet ethics just call this "speculation" instead of "rumor".
RealGM • View topic - All Amare Trade Talk Here
GSW are talking again....Oh, I should add GSW wants us taking Maggette's contract, +
On the surface, the Amare to Warriors rumors don't make sense for the same reason they didn't happen this summer. Amare doesn't want to go a team that isn't headed in the right direction and it is impossible to consider the Warriors current ownership as committed to building a winner.
BUT - now we have confirmation of long-time whispers that Oracle's Larry Ellison is trying to buy the Warriors.
This has the potential to change things in two ways.
1) The current ownership group might be willing to take on Amare as an expiring contract if they think that getting rid of Maggette's longer term contract if it helps the team's sale value by reducing liabilities on the books. With long term contracts committed to Ellis and Biedrins as well, it would make sense that they might want to rid themselves of a long-term Maggette deal.
2) The new ownership group might think they can convince Amare to stay by showing how much money they are willing to spend to build a winner. There would also be no better way for a new owner to make a big splash than to sign a free agent of Amare's caliber.
What would a possible trade look like?
Corey Maggette is slated to make about $10m per year over the next three seasons (thru 2012/13). For the Suns to take on that contract they would have to be enticed with some young talent and or picks.
I am no Maggette fan. Over the course of his career he's a guy with a ton of talent who's both struggled to stay healthy. He's played fewer than 70 games in 6 of the last 10 years. Even more worrisome is his tendency to not play team basketball and to shoot any time he touches the ball - and not all that efficiently.
Over his career, Maggette has shot around 44% from the field but for this season is up to 52%. That could be a result of his getting a lot of fast break opportunities playing Nellie ball. It could be a result of his playing the Four which matches him up with guys that can't cover him. But it seems to me that it also is a result of him just hitting more of his shots. It should be noted that Maggette is a career 32% three-point shoot (and is under 25% for the last two seasons).
Maggette's strength has always been his strength. He's an extremely powerful offensive player who can bull by smaller small forwards and as a result gets to the line frequently. He's averaging about nine free throws per game over the last six seasons.
At age 30, with his history of injuries and his very un-Suns like style of play it would certainly take some sweeteners for the Suns to take on Maggette. Or at least on would assume...
The Warriors have two young studs in Stephen Curry and Anthony Randolph.
Randolph is very young and raw but extremely talented and could step in to replace Amare in the front court when he returns from injury. Randolph has, "has two torn ligaments on the outside of the ankle and an avulsion fracture where an inside ligament pulled away from the bone. He'll be in a protective boot for three weeks before starting rehabilitation, which usually takes at least four weeks for similar injuries." The injury occurred on the 9th of January so if he returns this season it will be in early March at best.
Obviously, the Suns would want a full medical report on that, but assuming it is an injury that he can fully recover from there are still other concerns I have about Randolph. He's very young, but when I interviewed him in Vegas during summer league I wasn't overly impressed with his leadership skills or demeanor. He struck me as a me-first type player. I would think that's something else the Suns front office would need to consider but he's young and on a rookie contract and the talent-upside is tremendous so it wouldn't be a huge risk.
Stephen Curry on the other hand, has all the feel of a guy that's going to develop into a top notch NBA point guard. I know the Suns absolutely love him and his continued development this season has been impressive. He's passed Jennings statistically and is now considered by many to be the second best rookie in his class behind Tyreke Evans.
Of course, the Warriors love him too so prying him out of Golden State might be a trick. If the Suns were able to get him they would have a glut in the back-court but for a player like Curry that's a problem you deal with down the road by trading someone else.
Bottom line
As much as I don't like Corey Maggette, if the Warriors were willing to package Curry AND Randolph with him that's a deal the Suns have to do. I seriously doubt the Warriors would be that desperate however so it would come down to either getting Randolph and a good draft pick like the Warriors first round pick from 2010.
If they were to offer Curry than I would be happy with a "worse" pick. The Warriors 2nd round pick from 2010 is already promised to the Nets as is their 1st round pick for 2012 (which means they can't trade their 1st round pick from 2011).
Discuss.
[Note by Seth Pollack, 01/28/10 1:11 PM MST ]
Here's what our sister site Golden State of Mind has to say....looks like they want to hang on to Curry and Randolph
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I'm with you
I don’t like Magette’s style of play and I don’t like his contract, but if they threw in Curry and Randolph, I’d do it in a heartbeat. Plus, this might even be a trade that would keep us in the playoffs this year, as well as setting us up nicely in the future.
This move would take us out of the Free Agent market this Summer
Although we may not have a great shot at landing one of the big names I wouldn’t want to completely take us out of it.
And Magette is the type of player we'd get with 6 or 7 mil to spend.
So it works out. Plus, we’d get two players we’ve coveted for a while now. It’d be totally worth it.
No way I'm trading STAT straight-up for that expiring.
I’d tell Miami to go to hell if they’re not willing to deal Beasley.
How is it better to get an expiring contract rather than having Amare opt out?
Is there a difference?
Not true. Getting an expiring contract the same amount as Amare's salary next year
would be the same thing. The idea is that you get a cheap asset (a rookie, a pick) in addition to the expiring contract. So that you still get MOST of Amare’s salary off the books, but you picked up something you can use as well.
Yep
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
No I don't think that makes sense.
Let’s say if you trade Amare for Jermaine O’Neal and a pick. Amare makes like 18 mill, Jermaine makes 22. In the end, Jermaine comes off the books at the end of this season anyways, just like Amare.
So it would be like (our payroll) + Jermaine’s deal – Jermaine’s deal(when he expires)=our payroll
Amare: (our payroll)+Amare-Amare=our payroll
Same difference.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
You may be able to get a pick with the expiring.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
how is that better?
having Stat for the rest of the year is worse than having JOneal for the rest of the year?
by dontTradeAaronNelson! on Jan 28, 2010 1:05 PM MST up reply actions
If we were going to kill ourselves,
we would have already done so after 16 years where getiing slammed in the second round was our only highlight and only trip to the playoffs. Giving up Curry AND Randolph without a commitment from Amare is out of the question, and its seems a little too much even with him locked up. Randolph and a draft pick or Randolph plus a pick em’ of CJ Watson, Brandan Wright, Kelenna Azibuike, or Ronny Turiaf would seem to be a lot more fair for both sides.
Thing B
Boise State, BCS Champions 2010...
by warriorsscore110 on Jan 28, 2010 6:21 PM MST up reply actions
I am not down
with Magette at all. Way to me first type of player and not one that I want playing for us the next three years. The only way this looks even remotely attractive is if they throw in Curry. Not Randolph either. The kid is good, but not that good. My question for GS is how they intend on playing both Curry and Ellis. Both want the ball and handle it pretty well. At some point they are going to have to choose. I might be willing to take Ellis off of their hands but I am not sure yet.
Still anything that has Magette in it I am not cool with.
Reading is good...
Correction on Warrior picks
as a result of a reconfiguration of the picks in the Marcus Williams trade, the Nets have 1) the Warriors second round pick in 2011 (not 2010); and the Warriors first round pick in 2012, protected 1-7 in both 2011 and 2012, 1-6 in 2013. If the pick still hasn’t been transferred by 2013, the Nets get the Warriors second round picks in 2013 and 2015.
thanks
hard to keep up w/ this stuff. The site I checked didn’t have this. Do you have a link to confirm?
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by Seth Pollack on Jan 28, 2010 10:08 AM MST up reply actions
if Steve Kerr could finagle Stephon Curry AND Anthony Randolph out of GS
in a trade for Amar’e Stoudemire, I would give him GM of the Year without even blinking.
I don’t think Phoenix could even get one of those two.
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by Chris Child's Fist on Jan 28, 2010 10:09 AM MST reply actions
Depends.
The team (GSW) is now beginning to sound more and more desperate to (a) make a change in general, and (b) cut costs. Magette’s contract is perhaps their worst, so they might go to great lengths to unload him.
sure they want to make some changes
but Randolph and Curry are their untouchables. They have said they would consider moving Ellis for the right deal, along with other guys, but even though Nelson hasnt played Randolph as much as he prob should be, they see him and Curry as cornerstones.
"you're the Rod Thorn in my Chris Bosh side."
by Chris Child's Fist on Jan 28, 2010 10:15 AM MST up reply actions
The reports
are that the Warriors don’t consider anyone untouchable right now…but yeah, it would be tough for them to part w/ both Curry and AR. That’s a long shot for sure…
But if the Suns could get just Curry I would still do it. I love that kid. If it’s just Corey and AR…that would be tough w/o a good draft pick as well
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by Seth Pollack on Jan 28, 2010 10:20 AM MST up reply actions
I think I'm with you about Curry.
But I think I might also do it if it were just for Randolph. I think Golden State would do it in a second if I were just for Randolph, Magette, Claxton’s expiring and some picks.
Yeah, and thats why I say if Kerr can get both, GM of the Year.
I think if you manage to get either one, that would automatically become the “Best Deal Available”. Take it before they change their minds.
"you're the Rod Thorn in my Chris Bosh side."
by Chris Child's Fist on Jan 28, 2010 10:33 AM MST up reply actions
It depends on if they think they can keep amar'e
If they’re treating him as an expiring contract then i don’t see them giving us both Curry and Randolph, if they think he’ll stay then i think they’d be more likely to give up both.
Either way in an amar’e trade with GS we definitely need Randolph and either Curry or a first-round pick.
Well he wants a big market and he wants to win
can the warriors provide either of those?
I'd say San Fran is a big market
Seriously what is a big market LA, NY, CHI, BOS? Other than those San Fran would have to be the next biggest market. Its certainly bigger than Miami.
desperate? desparate?
TheSuns are the deparate team. They will get nothing if they do not deal. The W’s have ALL the negotiating leverage. Your deal will be Maggette, Randolph (headcase), and an expiring or Maggette and Monta. The W’s do have 1 untradeable and it is Curry. He is going NOWHERE!
by Eschew Obfuscation on Jan 28, 2010 1:44 PM MST up reply actions
Neither are the Dubs
We are about to owned by the 4th richest man int he world. Its gonna happen. Then F the salary cap. The W’s will be a destination for star players!
by Eschew Obfuscation on Jan 28, 2010 1:46 PM MST up reply actions
That doesn't make GSW a winner.
New York just threw money at players for years, massive payroll, and not much to show for it. till they finally wised up and started dumping shitty contracts.
The fans are desparate - not the Suns
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
^desperate... you made me spell it wrong you chump..
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
the point here
is that the Warriors might not care if he leaves…that’s the point of the story. That was written. Above. Thanks for reading it.
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by Seth Pollack on Jan 28, 2010 10:34 AM MST up reply actions
cool dude, that still doesn’t matter. if he doesn’t want to play there, he’ll veto the vote and it won’t happen.
by kuato lives on Jan 28, 2010 10:37 AM MST up reply actions
Amare can't veto a trade
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by Wil Cantrell on Jan 28, 2010 10:37 AM MST up reply actions
i’m pretty sure that’s what has been said.
by kuato lives on Jan 28, 2010 10:39 AM MST up reply actions
Amare can't veto a trade.
The point was that for most teams, they’d want him to re-sign. And if he said he didn’t want to re-sign with him, those teams would pull out of a trade. Not an official veto, but more using his leverage to influence the trade.
However if the receiving team only really views him as an expiring contract, then Amare has no leverage whatsoever.
man, i’m too high on this purp. i just really don’t think that will happen, kinda like the rumor of us getting jermaine o’neal for amare.
by kuato lives on Jan 28, 2010 10:45 AM MST up reply actions
I dunno
I think Golden State would love to trade Magette for Stoudemire, just depends on how much sweetener they’d want to throw in.
well think of a bad trade, and i’m sure that’s the one kerr is aiming for.
by kuato lives on Jan 28, 2010 10:53 AM MST up reply actions
Hypothetically
If a deal for Curry does go down.. How does our back court work? Do we move LB? Do we move Dragic?
We’d have at PG – Nash/Curry/Dragic/…LB
I think it could work well while LB is injured and out… in that interim it would look like this
PG – Nash/Curry
SG – Richardson/Dragic
We could potentially rest Nash a lot more and have two extremely crafty and great shooting guards in the game at all times -
BUT
When LB comes back – he will need minutes. All of our guards would need consistent minutes to productively contribute.
So what does everyone think we could do?
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Move LB
I have been saying this for weeks. LB is holding us back on so many levels. We have to pander to his insecurities all the time. He makes bad decisions offensively, isn’t great defensively, and offers really no other upside to his contract. Time to move. We have a glut at the G position and we need to downsize in a major way. LB should be the first to go.
Reading is good...
Right now yes.
And then J-Rich. I’m tired of watching his lack of perimeter D for big shots.
TO THE NBA - " Yeah, you have created a rift within me ; Now there have been ; several complications ; that have left me feeling nothing ; I might say, you were ; wrong to take it from me ; Left me feeling nothing " - Disturbed, "Numb"
Check that.
If Amare goes trade the whole team. The question we have to ask is will undercover GM Nash approve? If not forget about it.
TO THE NBA - " Yeah, you have created a rift within me ; Now there have been ; several complications ; that have left me feeling nothing ; I might say, you were ; wrong to take it from me ; Left me feeling nothing " - Disturbed, "Numb"
Next season J-Rich will be an expiring
I think we’ll be able to get something pretty decent for him, so I’d look into moving him first.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Yeah From the summer Richardson will be super valuable
we actually have a lot of expiring contracts in 2011. Carmelo Anthony anyone?
Thats what I'm saying Paul Pierce...
Everyone who signed huge name free agents will probably want to shed some cap space and Richardson could provide production while also achieving cap reduction.
Question about JRich
How many of us are willing to keep JRich this year and use him in a very valuable trade for an expiring contract next year? I see his value as being pretty big but now for pieces right now, but in the future. Sure we have to kind of “get by” for the next half a year, but next year we will be sitting pretty with teams climbing over themselves to get 12mil off the books by the time the summer of 2011 comes along.
Reading is good...
This might be our only choice.
No one seems to want to take him now. I’d rather use him as an expiring contract next year than have to take on a crappy contract for him now.
me too
Since it seems that the Suns are willing to take a massive hit in trading Amare then it follows we should settle for mediocre results for at least a year then take full advantage of Rich’s expiring contract to get picks or a lot of cap space in 2011.
Reading is good...
Nobody from the Suns office is implying we are willing to take a hit trading Amare
We are not THAT eager to trade him…
I don't care what they say
no offers I have heard are anything close to being equal. We are taking a hit, why on earth would the front office acknowledge that…its bad for business.
Reading is good...
No one seems to want him?
How are you so sure?
When Kerr was asked about him he strongly dodged the question.
I personally would like to see JRich stay.
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
No one on our team is consistent right now
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
actually that’s kind of true…i’m not even gonna turn on the tv tonight. :(
by kuato lives on Jan 28, 2010 11:08 AM MST up reply actions
Too bad for you
You’ll miss the Goran Dragic show..
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
yeah, but i don’t like seeing us get killed.
by kuato lives on Jan 28, 2010 11:14 AM MST up reply actions
Eh....
Not at the salary he is at now. Its not worth it. We need more youth at his position and someone playing better defense. Not that he is horrible…but youth would be nice.
Reading is good...
Andre Iguadala for Amare?
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
I like that
We’d have to take on Brand or Dally but I dont think Brand would be a bust here, we can work some magic to get him healthy.
Not so fast
Gambo (a dork imo) reports today that the Sixers are seriously considering an Iggy for Amare deal – no Brand included
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
I would love iggy
but i actually think dalembert would be good for us.
When he’s motivated he’s a good rebounder/post defender and he can hit the mid range J so he doesn’t clog the lane on offense.
Why would they do that? They have plenty of biggs
Dalembert would be a nice fit here he could get 20 min while lopez gets 28 at C, can play Dalembert when we go small, and he is under contract for only 1 more year.
what about iggy filler and their draft pick this year?
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It would probably be a 2nd round pick
We could score their first if there is no filler included MAYBE
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Iggy's a nice piece
Better than NJ’s pieces, that’s for sure.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
I think if our medical staff checked Brand out
To make sure he wasn’t a walking time bomb I’d take him. He’d give us a nice post presence when we got him healthy, his contract wouldnt look so bad if he was producing either…!
He just doesn't fit our system
plus if we’re rebuilding do you really want $15million a year going to brand for the next 4 years? I’d rather pay amar’e $20million
Our "system" is the problem sir.
Run and gun open floor spread shooters pick and roll we have seen doesnt work in the playoffs…. Brand can play the pick and roll/ pick and pop. But it would be nice to have that post presence for when Nash is out of the game. I dont think he’s making quite that much money… Plus we’d get Iggy he’s as close to Lebron as you can get.
Its not me you have to convince about the system
it’s Kerr and Sarver. They think our system is the way to go. Even so brand doesn’t fit with Nash which means that as long as nash is here Brand is VERY unlikely to be acquired in trade. He’s to slow to run the floor.
As for Iggy i’d absolutely love to have him, he’s a great defender and a perfect second bannana. However i wouldn’t take brand just to get him, especially if i thought that we could do the deal with Dalembert instead, who is more likely to fit our system AND has a shorter contract.
I don't think Kerr thinks it's the way to go.
I think he just realized that it was the system that best fit our personnel. Notice his draft picks … Lopez, Clark, Dragic … all touted as good defenders.
If Kerr is the GM when Nash and Amare move on
You can bet we’ll be a defensive-minded team when we’re rebuilt in his image.
I agree totally
but having Brand is not the worst possibility if we get IGGY. And as I posted earlier, having one system and one view on how to run our offense is why we get mopped by SA every year. With Brand we could certainly throw teams different looks when Nash was out of the game, we could run our offense through him more or less. Also Iggy would fit into our current system nicely.
hate Brand on his bloated contract
Would rather take Dalembert
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by Seth Pollack on Jan 28, 2010 2:56 PM MST up reply actions
Stan/Seth do you think its a possibility
Amar’e for Iggy + Brand/Dalembert?
a 6Mill contract would have to be added to fit the $$
a 6Mill contract like… BARBOSA’S
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
I think you are missing the point
If brand HAD to be included to get Iggy I say we take our chances to get him healthy and see if he will produce.
damn...
I don’t know about that…that’s a LOT of contract left
$51m over the next 3 yrs. That’s a BIG burden/risk
Love Iggy but not that much.
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by Seth Pollack on Jan 28, 2010 3:03 PM MST up reply actions
Am i right in thinking Iggy went to UofA like Frye and Kerr
bet that influences Kerrs decision making
I don't care
Just knowing he will be gone makes me happy?
TO THE NBA - " Yeah, you have created a rift within me ; Now there have been ; several complications ; that have left me feeling nothing ; I might say, you were ; wrong to take it from me ; Left me feeling nothing " - Disturbed, "Numb"
Brandan Wright
I would take him as a piece back from GS. How come no one is talking about him in a potential trade.
He's injured+he hasn't shown much when he's healthy. Tons of upside though.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
He's probably got more upside and a better attitude than Randolph
Before he got injured Nellie’s plan was to start Wright because he had more potential than Randolph.
Randolph has rubbed Nellie the wrong way
Dude’s been in his doghouse for a long time. I don’t know why.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
because Nellie's a horses ass?
thats a technical term y’know.
The Warriors surprisingly have some pretty good pieces. I think they are bad because their pieces don’t fit well together because they have a ton of scorers.
The other pieces I wouldn’t mind getting back in a trade are Wright, Azubuike, or Morrow.
Azubuike and Morrow are both deadly shooters and would be a good throw in to any potential trade.
also how is this going to work salary wise? wouldnt we have to take back Biedrens, Maggette or some other high paid player to make the salaries work
taking one of those guys would make GS less willing to throw in a good young prospect
That's the only way a Golden State trade works, is if we take back a big contract.
Last year, getting Biedrins seemed like a good thing, because we didn’t have a defensive center. Lopez is starting to show he can be that guy, so now it seems like getting Biedrins might be a mistake. So we’d have to take Ellis or Maggette.
The point of this story is that maybe Golden State WANTS to get rid of their big contracts, and rather than be less willing to throw in a good young prospect, would be more willing to do it to entice a team to take on one of their bad contracts.
Right
but I would MUCH more be willing to take Ellis than Magette…I am not sure what Monta’s contract is like, but he is worth more than Magette.
Reading is good...
Yeah at this point I view him as their "franchise player"
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
I'd rather have Maggette than Ellis
We have a stacked backcourt and are pretty thin at SF. I know Maggette’s contract is a horse but ellis’ isn’t much better and ellis seems to have a serious attitude problem.
Ellis's contract doesnt grow over time...
We’d definately have the ability to dump JRich this summer if we landed Ellis and dump Barbosa as well, that should bring in some decent talent…
Yeah but Ellis has only really got the size to play PG and he doesn't want to get off the bench
Playing ellis as our long-term Point is going to be much more detrimental to the team than playing Maggette as our long-term SF
What makes you think he wouldn't come off the bench?
He wouldn’t really have to put him at the 2 where he belongs. We’d obviously have to do some rearranging with our G position since we’d have 5 or 6.
He just seems like the sort of player who would object to being a sixth man
plus do you relly wanna play a sixth man $11 million a year
Realistically...
Stat
for
Biedrens, Wright, and Azubuike
wouldn’t be bad….
Wright is essentially the same player Stat is but at an earlier stage in his career, Biedrens is a really good rebounder and can run the floor, and Azubuike is a great shooter at the 3
I disagree about Wright.
He could potentially become the same player Amare is, but…he’s been far too injured to prove anything.
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by Trevor Paxton on Jan 28, 2010 12:06 PM MST up reply actions
Yeah Wright (and Azibuike) have been injured all season
theres no telling what players are going to be like when they’ve been injured for a long time. Some come back fine, but others are never the same.
GS Ain't Trading Curry
Dude, if you think GS would trade Curry you are absolutely insane. Curry is already better than Amare, just look at his ridiculous 3 PT% AS A ROOKIE. Curry also has an above retard level IQ.
The best we could get is some of their second tier young guys (Morrow, Watson, Wright), an expiring (Raja, Speedy Claxton) and a draft pick. A combination of those guys probably wouldn’t be half bad at this point.
Too bad we weren’t able to get Curry and Biedrins before the season started.
Curry is already better than Amare?
lol come on man. I’m a Stoudemire critic but that’s absolutely ridiculous.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
the retard comment was uncalled for.
Despite that I still dont agree with your thesis. 3pt% doesn’t make a player. That number can go down.
Reading is good...
He’s not desperately needed, but it can’t hurt to have two good centers, so he should not be unacceptable..
by species8473 on Jan 28, 2010 11:23 AM MST up reply actions
He's a rebounding beast though
can lopez play PF? imagine a twin towers line-up of Biedrins and Lopez. On second thoughts our spacing would be messed up but it’s interesting to think about.
Could be used down the stretch for defensive purposes
But I’d imagine under most circumstances Lopez would be killed by other PF’s speed.
I say no to ANY GS offer that doesn't include either Curry or Randolph.
by Lorenzo Franceschi Bicchierai on Jan 28, 2010 11:24 AM MST reply actions
I'd do that too
Although Randolph+Curry would be absolutely stupendous.
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Randolph and Curry would give us a post-nash future
imagine that…
I know
It’s an amazing thing to hope for, isn’t it?
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just stop
you just arent getting randolph and curry. Its like us thinking we’d have a shot at Amare for VladRad, Claxton and Bell.
Thing A
I think we understand that
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Amare and Barbosa for Beans, Maggette, Curry and a 2nd round pick. I would find it hard to get a 1st round pick out of them if they give us back Curry. Ellis and Amare would make an aggressive, scarry, offensive combo for GS.
Ellis and Amare would make an aggressive, scarry, offensive combo for GS.
That also would be a defensive blackhole. Goodluck to them making stops when needed.
Since when...
GS wants to make stops?
by Lorenzo Franceschi Bicchierai on Jan 28, 2010 11:36 AM MST up reply actions
I do not want Beans contract
I think its like 10-12 mill over the next 4-5 years.
I’d rather take their injured PFs off their hands
9m for 5 years. Its as bad as the contract we gave Boris. He would really help us on the boards though. I would consider him.
I was more interested in Biens
before Robin started playing well…
You can’t play Robin and Biedrins together b/c neither can shoot a lick so you end up starting Biedrins and playing Robin behind him and frankly at this point I think Robin has a much higher upside then Beins does
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by Seth Pollack on Jan 28, 2010 11:33 AM MST up reply actions
I agree
Robin should be given the priority in starting position because at this early stage in his career he still can develop a jump shot or a go-to post move.
I wouldn't go that far
but maybe more like a KT jump shot…Z’s got great range
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by Seth Pollack on Jan 28, 2010 12:16 PM MST up reply actions
KT is automatic when he's on - that's a good compliment
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
I think it is possibly
but several years away…
I actually asked Robin about this after practice once. It is in his goals to become that kind of pick and pop mid-range player
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by Seth Pollack on Jan 28, 2010 2:37 PM MST up reply actions
That would be saweet
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
I’m good with anything with Randolph so long as we don’t trade Dragic, Lopez, Lou and Clark. I hope Kerr can pull this one off. I also hope LB is next to be traded.
Then you want this...
Amare+Barbosa for Maggette+Randolph+Curry+Bell. Lorenzo for GM of the year if that happens?
by Lorenzo Franceschi Bicchierai on Jan 28, 2010 11:37 AM MST up reply actions
Yep
But remember he only has 5 millions on his contract.
by Lorenzo Franceschi Bicchierai on Jan 28, 2010 11:39 AM MST up reply actions
LB
In trading LB, the only “problem” would be sentimental attachment. He’s not a great player, but has been here even before the Nash era, is by all accounts a nice fellow, and has never demanded a huge contract from the Suns.
by species8473 on Jan 28, 2010 11:39 AM MST up reply actions
yeah i'd hate to see him go,
but i think he’d play much better if he was on a different team that had help defense behind him.
I agree...
I love Barbosa, I really do. But let’s be honest, he might have hit the ceiling of his career, actually he has regressed (although it might have to do with his injury) and if we get Curry we don’t need him anymore.
by Lorenzo Franceschi Bicchierai on Jan 28, 2010 11:40 AM MST up reply actions
I disagree on the ceiling
He could be a 20+ point scorer on a different team we all know he can go off for 30 or 40 he is just too small to guard other 2’s
Yep he never demanded a huge contract or even playing time
but wouldn’t we want someone who can at least hold his own on the defensive end?
LB
Listen, it’s a tough world out there, and while LB is a sweet kid, the quicker he learns that he is a commodity, the better for him.
And for us fans, maybe it’s difficult to say goodbye, but get over it. We’re talking wins and losses here and LB isn’t bringing many W’s home for us (even when he was healthy)
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by Wil Cantrell on Jan 28, 2010 12:02 PM MST up reply actions
Well, during his last healthy season he was pretty efficient
So I’d wait to see what he can do when he’s healthy again
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It just depends on the return
Like any of these other considerations…I think Nash and Hill could be the only untouchables, and perhaps for good reason or not, but I’m not sure LB’s value will be getting any higher, even if he comes back and plays great. He’s not good enough to be a PG and he’s too small to be your starting 2. Really, what would you expect in return?
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by Wil Cantrell on Jan 28, 2010 12:21 PM MST up reply actions
LB's value wont be getting higher
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by Wil Cantrell on Jan 28, 2010 12:21 PM MST up reply actions
Would you give them Dragic
if it meant getting curry?
Tough Q
I think Curry has a higher ceiling than Dragic but…I love Goran :(
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Kirilenko
This certainly wouldn’t happen, because there would be no financial incentive for either team and because Jerry Sloan would probably find Amare Stoudemire’s lack of hustle or defense unacceptable, but too bad Stoudemire can’t be traded for Andrei Kirilenko, whom I’ve always liked. But his contract is, if I recall, virtually identical to Stoudemire’s—that’s why I say there is no financial incentive.
Yeah now he looks like an old Russian woman
It’s really freaking me out
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Haha hilarious.
Seriously, I do like his game a bit, but man, he needs to go back to the douche gelled look.
I've always like AK as well
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Sloan can't make miracles...
by Lorenzo Franceschi Bicchierai on Jan 28, 2010 11:47 AM MST up reply actions
Yep
Thats what I have been trying to say too. Guy has his deficiencies but he is by no means lazy. Given the right impetus, he could be great at everything in the game.
Reading is good...
Amare has the pieces
To improve. He just won’t do it here. Change of scenery time, time for him to learn from a coach like Sloan. I’d rather trade him to the East though
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by Wil Cantrell on Jan 28, 2010 12:04 PM MST up reply actions
No, but I still consider him the best coach in the league, the best I’ve ever seen at getting something out of nothing (although he has good players at the moment).
by species8473 on Jan 28, 2010 12:00 PM MST up reply actions
I do kind of agree with this.
I think a lot of Amare’s problems boil down to him never having a coach who taught him how to properly play defense and, better yet, enjoy playing defense. He came right out of high school, very raw, and was told SCORE SCORE SCORE!!!
Thank you JB
If you are under D-antoni for your whole career where are you going to learn to play d?
A front line of
Lopez, Randolph, and Clark would be terrific in a few years. Long, lean, aggressive defenders. Extremely young and full of potential. Their offense would take a while to develop but the Bynum, Gasol, Odom front line is going to be impossible to beat for the next few years until Gasol and Odom slow down anyway.
Prying Randolph away from GS would be a priority if I were Kerr. Taking back Maggette would be worth it if that’s what it takes IMO
They're not going to give up Curry and Randolph both
It would be PR suicide for Larry Riley with their fan base and the media.
dragic has the PG position covered
we’re trading a PF so let the focus be on getting a PF in return which is Randolph
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Our everyday reality is shattered
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It may only last a moment, an hour, or an afternoon,
but that doesn't diminish its value,
because we are left with memories
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Dragic is a natural SG.
He’s being trained to be our future PG cos we don’t have another sucession plan, but his natural position would be SG. he’s perfect for it.
Nope
He’s a natural PG who can also play SG
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by Seth Pollack on Jan 28, 2010 3:05 PM MST up reply actions
says you?
because that’s not what he played in Europe…
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Because that's his natural position
In fact I specifically asked Nash about this a few weeks ago as well. He calls him a natural PG but said it takes young players longer to learn the point than off guard
He’s got great vision. Passes the ball well. He’s a point.
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by Seth Pollack on Jan 28, 2010 3:08 PM MST up reply actions
I agree
My original reply was to Chucko
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Come on man
i love Dragic, but he’s never going to be as good as Hondo.
You never know -
Did you think Nash would be one of the greatest point guards ever to play the game after his first year and half in the league. No you didn’t.
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Exactly...
Nobody did. Which, obviously doesn’t mean it’ll be the same with Dragic. It only means young players take time to develop and we all need patience with this kid. And, if we are all honest, is already better than almost everybody thought after his tragic first season (which wasn’t his fault. It was the expectations and Porter’s fault, btw)
by Lorenzo Franceschi Bicchierai on Jan 28, 2010 4:10 PM MST up reply actions
Hondo?
No, no. I meant former Sun Jeff Hornacek, not Celtics great John Havlicek. Hornacek had the worst nickname is NBA history—“Horny.”
Horny =/= Hondo
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Long, lean, aggressive defenders
and very mobile
We all want to fall in love. Why?
Because that experience makes us feel completely alive,
where every sense is heightened,
and every emotion is magnified.
Our everyday reality is shattered
and we are flying into the heavens.
It may only last a moment, an hour, or an afternoon,
but that doesn't diminish its value,
because we are left with memories
that we treasure for the rest of our lives.
Absolutely
Randolph: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CDefTdwIx0
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The crazy thing is that he's grown an inch since then
If you look at him next to Beans, Randolph is a 6’11-7 footer
Holy gods.
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And I just realized he's younger than I am
Wow.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Just watched that highlight reel..
When he shoots his jumper, his noodle arms look like they’re about 2 feet longer than they should be.
GS fans say that he is actually now 7 feet tall
Draftexpress lists him with a 7’3 wingspan
Can you imagine?
SF-Earl Clark, 6’9, 7’2.5 inch wingpsan
PF-Anthony Randolph 7’0 (or heck, 6’11, who cares!)
C-Robin Lopez 7’0 I’m assuming his wingspan is the same as Brook’s since they’re genetically identical: 7’5 inches
And they’re all 22 and under.
Daaaaaayum.
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that why I think he should be the focus of any trade with GSW
an almost seven-footer with handles is a very rare species
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Because that experience makes us feel completely alive,
where every sense is heightened,
and every emotion is magnified.
Our everyday reality is shattered
and we are flying into the heavens.
It may only last a moment, an hour, or an afternoon,
but that doesn't diminish its value,
because we are left with memories
that we treasure for the rest of our lives.
+1
Randolph+Curry would bring tears of joy to my eyes, but anything with Randolph in it is the best offer we have as of now.
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after seeing this highlight reel
im way impressed. hes got a shot, he can rebound, and if he put weight on, man hed be ballin. oh not to mention hes left handed. i dont know what lefthanders do, but they are almost all good.
Its because
most NBA defenders never remember a guys left-handed.
Dragic is a lefty too
as am I
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by Seth Pollack on Jan 28, 2010 2:37 PM MST up reply actions
As long as he doesn't get into the realm of david thompson/lenny bias
then i honestly don’t care that much. He’s a 20yr old guy who suddenly became a millionare last year. Obviously you don’t want a guy doing drugs on your team but if its in the past then i can live with it.
Did Beasley just get injured?
I though I saw a ticker that he busted his knee last night or something?
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Yeah he injured his knee
I don’t know how bad it is
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Hyperextended.
Tried to come back, couldn’t play at all in the second half. No word yet on how serious, at least from what I’ve seen.
A lot of those blocks came off of mistakes by him.
But when was the last time you saw Amare make a mistake, hustle back, and make a huge defensive play on a smaller guard on the break?
I agree here. The kid is special. And playing with Nash, he’ll get a sense for team basketball.
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by Trevor Paxton on Jan 28, 2010 12:19 PM MST up reply actions
reminds me of
marion but with a better looking shot? i know hes way young, but hes taking that path.
the main reason a GS trade would be good...
…is because is would not necessarily make the Warriors a powerful force in the division, especially if Golden State gave up some good players to get Stoudemire. They would still be the Golden State Pacifists.
I guess the big question is that IF GS was to offer Maggette+Randolph
Would Sarver take the financial hit?
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Didn't think of that...
We are screwed.
by Lorenzo Franceschi Bicchierai on Jan 28, 2010 12:05 PM MST up reply actions
I think he would.
We’d still have to have something else in the deal, like Claxton’s expiring. That’d put us very close to the luxury tax line (don’t know the math). The real savings comes next year when JRich comes off.
Bell's expiring
Wouldn’t Kerr wants Bell back? It would be an emotional boost and please Nash
Maggette+Randolph+Bell for Amare. Works in the trade machine.
Bell
Isn’t the same guy we remember from 2005, etc. I don’t know what’s left in the tank, he could hang on in a Bruce Bowen type of role, but I don’t think he is a Bowen level defender. he’d have to resort to studying Spur game films and learn the intricacies of knee opponents in the sack and subtly stepping on a shooters foot…Its possible i suppose.
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by Wil Cantrell on Jan 28, 2010 12:14 PM MST up reply actions
can Bell suit up for this season?
We all want to fall in love. Why?
Because that experience makes us feel completely alive,
where every sense is heightened,
and every emotion is magnified.
Our everyday reality is shattered
and we are flying into the heavens.
It may only last a moment, an hour, or an afternoon,
but that doesn't diminish its value,
because we are left with memories
that we treasure for the rest of our lives.
No he's out for the season I think
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It would just be nice to have him back in the lockerroom
I’d like him to retire here
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Yeah and the locker room is overrated
The floor is where you win games, yes? Shaq’s so called presence was not a positive. Nash and Hill’s presence aren’t translating to wins.
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by Wil Cantrell on Jan 28, 2010 12:19 PM MST up reply actions
That was because he was pissed about Porter.
I imagine if we’re still committed to the 7SOL style, he’d be happy to come back.
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by Trevor Paxton on Jan 28, 2010 12:20 PM MST up reply actions
I just don't believe
in looking backwards and thinking this guy or that guy that was once here and productive would return and be the same guy. (Nash was the rare exception). Unless they do what they did with Majerele-bringing him back to teach D and for sentimental purposes when there was an open spot, there isn’t any purpose in doing so unless a guy can really help the team.
The Suns don’t need anymore aging leadership. They need young talent to build on
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by Wil Cantrell on Jan 28, 2010 12:24 PM MST up reply actions
sure. fine.
but Bell’s contract is expiring. We’d be bringing him back for 30 games.
Bell is out for the season i thought
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by Wil Cantrell on Jan 28, 2010 12:31 PM MST up reply actions
Just saying that he'd be a buoy to Nash's spirits
And yeah, maybe next season we can re-sign him and he can play the Bowen role. Everyone loved Raja, and Kerr would be smart to re-sign a fan favorite.
Of course, GS really likes Raja too, so they probably wouldn’t trade him, but either way, I hope we look into bringing him back this summer.
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ha
sign a fan favorite. isnt that what the diamondbacks did with eric byrnes???
that turned out well.
Yeah except they gave him a crap contract
I’m talking like LLE or vet min
Raja>>>>>Byrnes.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
There was an article last season
basically saying Bell was pissed because they traded him and then they went back to playing 7SOL.
The front office and ownership
Intrigues me to no end. Sarver being a banker and all must think first about the chedda, secondly about a good basketball move.
Again, who the hell knows what that guy is thinking. I wonder if Kerr hits brick walls trying to deal with him (even though Kerr does have a stake in the team).
And further, really, what are they are attempting to do? They don’t want to alienate fans by making unpopular moves, because that decreases revenue at the gates, Kerr still thinks the Suns can compete for the playoffs this season, so virtually any move they make contradicts one of their philosophies.
Add to that the trade market for Stat kind of sucks. His deficiencies are no secret.
I like that Steve Kerr is holding out for the best possible deal…Or maybe a serious offer hasn’t even been made… Meanwhile, Amare is tanking the past few games. His mind can’t be straight as he ponders the next 10,000 square foot house he’ll buy while he attempts to remember the game plan, and that he’s a max player.
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by Wil Cantrell on Jan 28, 2010 12:12 PM MST up reply actions
josh howard
anyone see this link…I’ve always known josh howard was an idiot…this is kind of funny though
http://drunkathlete.com/2008/09/06/josh-howard-having-way-too-much-fun/
That is the only reason I would not want to accept Howard in any trade with the Mavericks—he’s an ignorant idiot and a casual drug user.
by species8473 on Jan 28, 2010 12:15 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
The main bad thing about getting Magette
Is that it would stunt Clark’s development a bit, since they play the same position.
then we should try and trade him once we get him
We all want to fall in love. Why?
Because that experience makes us feel completely alive,
where every sense is heightened,
and every emotion is magnified.
Our everyday reality is shattered
and we are flying into the heavens.
It may only last a moment, an hour, or an afternoon,
but that doesn't diminish its value,
because we are left with memories
that we treasure for the rest of our lives.
Since Randolph is injured
If this trade went through I wonder if we’d start Channing next to Lopez or play Maggette as a small 4.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Or you could play Maggette at the 2
and in a few years have a big lineup of Lopez-Randolph-Clark-Maggette-Dragic, no player under 6-5 and 4 decent defenders.
He doesn’t play defense, does he? And to boot, he has a huge head.
by species8473 on Jan 28, 2010 12:16 PM MST up reply actions
nope
We all want to fall in love. Why?
Because that experience makes us feel completely alive,
where every sense is heightened,
and every emotion is magnified.
Our everyday reality is shattered
and we are flying into the heavens.
It may only last a moment, an hour, or an afternoon,
but that doesn't diminish its value,
because we are left with memories
that we treasure for the rest of our lives.
I'd love him in theory
But Dragic is no two, neither is Ellis. There aren’t enough minutes in a game for all of them now.
Not sure what Ellis’ contract is like now, but he’s going to be demanding big money soon if he hasn’t already.
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ya i definitely wouldnt want that contract
if he sudden drops in production, hes destined to be dropped. kinda like iverson.
i like him though, hes got a nice shot, drives without fear and can finish.
He isn’t? I was wondering about that, Mr. Cantrell—about how much of a pure point guard Dragic is. All I can tell is that even for not being Steve Nash, Dragic’s assist numbers aren’t very big.
by species8473 on Jan 28, 2010 12:21 PM MST up reply actions
He’s averaging 30ppg at the 2 spot isn’t he. It’s like Barbosa; he’s too small, but can play it anyway.
and the rest would have to attempt 5 to 7 shots
We all want to fall in love. Why?
Because that experience makes us feel completely alive,
where every sense is heightened,
and every emotion is magnified.
Our everyday reality is shattered
and we are flying into the heavens.
It may only last a moment, an hour, or an afternoon,
but that doesn't diminish its value,
because we are left with memories
that we treasure for the rest of our lives.
I think Dragic is a pure point guard.
In the same mold of Mo Williams. Mo Williams can have 10+ assists nights, but he largely hovers around 5 per game. And, to be honest, I think (post-Nash) having Dragic at the point and keeping JRich at the two would be fantastic. We all know what JRich can do when he’s given the opportunity to run the team. Having a PG around that will defer to him, but take over when necessary could be a good thing.
Put the starting 5 (assuming GS gives us Maggette, Randolph, and a 1st round pick) at…
PG: Dragic
SG: Richardson
SF: Maggette (I would try to move him…I can’t stand the guy)
PF: Randolph
C: Lopez
Aside from Maggette, now that’s a starting five. If we somehow find a way to move him (assuming this trade goes through), I say we throw Clark into the fire. See what he’s made of.
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by Trevor Paxton on Jan 28, 2010 12:26 PM MST up reply actions
If the GS trade were to go through.
Keep in mind, this is all post-Nash talk. As in, 2 years down the line.
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by Trevor Paxton on Jan 28, 2010 12:28 PM MST up reply actions
2 years down the line Richardson will not be under contract
I wonder what we’ll do with him. Trade him next season or re-sign him?
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
If Nash leaves and Dragic takes over the point,
I wouldn’t mind having Richardson around. He’s a great ball player, and he can lead a team. Would we try and trade for a young up and comer, or would we stick with the veteran mentality while the rest of the starting 5 were so young?
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by Trevor Paxton on Jan 28, 2010 12:30 PM MST up reply actions
I bet we could keep J-Rich for under the MLE
when his contract expires
He'd rather come back to the Bay
He’s said as much
by Eschew Obfuscation on Jan 28, 2010 1:53 PM MST up reply actions
Probably not under.
I think we could sign him for about 6-7mil after his contract’s up, depending on what kind of financial changes the league undergoes in the next few years.
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by Trevor Paxton on Jan 28, 2010 6:07 PM MST up reply actions
yep I'd put Clark into the starting lineup
and have Maggette play for the 2nd unit. That way the second unit has someone who can provide the offense.
We all want to fall in love. Why?
Because that experience makes us feel completely alive,
where every sense is heightened,
and every emotion is magnified.
Our everyday reality is shattered
and we are flying into the heavens.
It may only last a moment, an hour, or an afternoon,
but that doesn't diminish its value,
because we are left with memories
that we treasure for the rest of our lives.
That's an interesting idea
All Maggette does is score, score, score, so that would be nice to have off the bench. He’d make a great 6th man.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Hm...
And Maggette has come off the bench before, right? So it wouldn’t be bruising his ego to give him 6th man duty?
That actually may work.
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by Trevor Paxton on Jan 28, 2010 12:35 PM MST up reply actions
Dragic...
Is not a pure point guard in the sense that his natural ability is to score…The remaining piece he has to pick up is to learn his teammates, know where they are going to be, and get them the ball in places they can be successful. Basically do what Nash does. And he won’t be able to do exactly what Nash does, no one can.
He may have the offensive game for a 2, but imagine him trying to hold Kobe to under 50. It’s not to say Dragic doesn’t have the potential to become a great defender-he’s got an insane wingspan for his size, and he’s very quick, but right now he would be outmuscled every night….It’s not to say that during certain stretches the matchup is OK and he can hang for 6-7 minutes with Nash running the point…But to consider him the 2 of the future is wishful thinking.
That’s why JRICH is pretty vital, even when he isn’t shooting. He has the size to deal with the big 2’s of the league and can post up on the smaller ones. He can also muscle in for some rebounds.
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by Wil Cantrell on Jan 28, 2010 12:29 PM MST up reply actions
disagree on Dragic
I think he is a natural point guard as does Nash actually…his tendency is not to score but to set up his guys and he’s had to be prodded into being more aggressive getting his shot just like Nash
He is young and not as good in the pg skills as the others but that takes the longest to develop and we’ve clearly seen improvement…no reason to think he can’t be a pure PG that can also score. Will he be Nash? Never
And I doubt he will even be in the all-star range but he could be very solid in the mid-tier of PG’s in a couple of years.
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by Seth Pollack on Jan 28, 2010 12:47 PM MST up reply actions
that's shows how much the fan cares for their team
We all want to fall in love. Why?
Because that experience makes us feel completely alive,
where every sense is heightened,
and every emotion is magnified.
Our everyday reality is shattered
and we are flying into the heavens.
It may only last a moment, an hour, or an afternoon,
but that doesn't diminish its value,
because we are left with memories
that we treasure for the rest of our lives.
Haha we're obsessed
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
I wish the Front Office cares as much as we do...
by Lorenzo Franceschi Bicchierai on Jan 28, 2010 12:23 PM MST up reply actions
come on
that’s kind of silly. Of course they care and since it is their lives and jobs I can’t imagine they care less than us
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by Seth Pollack on Jan 28, 2010 12:48 PM MST up reply actions
Definitely. It's pretty sad.
As lame as it is, I’ve had a hard time sleeping the past couple of nights, because all of this junk keeps going through my head.
Which is why I kinda want them to get the trade over with
Rather than play chicken all the way up to the trade deadline.
I think Kerr cares, but Sarver just doesn’t understand basketball. He’s the guy with the final say. Sometimes I think Sarver has Kerr in hand cuffs; like the Kurt Thomas trade to Seattle for instance. I don’t think Kerr wanted to trade him. Saver thinks about money first and Basketball second and when he does think about Basketball he makes the wrong decision like overpaying Diaw and Banks.
You know at the time I was all in favor of both of those moves
I thought Banks would pan out and I really liked the idea of a bulldog that we could put on Parker.
And I think that Boris is worth his money.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
i do too
i read jack mccullems book seven seconds or less and freak diaw was a beast. like 26 points, 7 assists and 7 rebounds? id rather have that than amare.
Yeah me too but you are going to get that 1/10 games
Not something you can rely on like you can with Amare
*sucks that Banks was a massive bust though
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
True.
Just not worth his money for being a backup PF/C. Which is essentially what he boiled down to here.
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by Trevor Paxton on Jan 28, 2010 12:29 PM MST up reply actions
ya they basically
paid him for his performance in the playoffs against dallas. the right thing to do would be to wait and see him play with amare. but we jumped the gun.
Not after just one good season. You have to see if the guy can continue it. GM’s make those mistakes too many times.
Last season in Charlotte, he was playing pretty damn well.
The thing with Boris is that he’s got a tendency to get lazy.
When he’s on, though, he’s really on. Such a unique talent.
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by Trevor Paxton on Jan 28, 2010 12:32 PM MST up reply actions
the Parker stopper that never was
Notwithstanding that I’ve heard he had an attitude problem, poor Marcus Banks. If he had been used properly, he could have been great. I was thinking exactly what rsavaj said—that Banks could have shut down Tony Parker.
by species8473 on Jan 28, 2010 12:31 PM MST up reply actions
Yeah, this thing is going off.
Shouldn’t we all be working or something?
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by Wil Cantrell on Jan 28, 2010 12:30 PM MST up reply actions
Jesus, we've all learned the reply button...I was responding to species
great work BSOTSers
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by Wil Cantrell on Jan 28, 2010 12:30 PM MST up reply actions
For sure.
Sitting in class learning about psychology? Nope. I’d rather look at trade talk.
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by Trevor Paxton on Jan 28, 2010 12:32 PM MST up reply actions
That would be the most badass major ever.
Although, I think the real life version of that is called “Be a GM of an NBA Team”.
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by Trevor Paxton on Jan 28, 2010 12:34 PM MST up reply actions
Boo.
I prefer 2k over NBA Live. Haha.
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by Trevor Paxton on Jan 28, 2010 12:35 PM MST up reply actions
NBA Jam was where it was at.
And 2k player since 2004. I’m not a huge gamer.
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by Trevor Paxton on Jan 28, 2010 12:38 PM MST up reply actions
I was big on NBA Live 94,95,96
NBA Jam Tournament Edition was the bee’s knees. Same thing with NBA Hangtime!
I’ve been a 2k guy ever since the 2k line started on the Dreamcast.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Yep.
Though I started on 2k on XBox.
Hooray for basketball games!
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by Trevor Paxton on Jan 28, 2010 12:40 PM MST up reply actions
Dear God
I might have to buy a Wii specifically for that game.
Bright Side of the Sun, where Suns basketball never looked so good.
by Trevor Paxton on Jan 28, 2010 12:41 PM MST up reply actions
heres so info
http://www.wiinintendo.net/2010/01/14/nba-jam-wii-more-details/
you can vote for the 3 players on each team right now i think. i remember reading it somewhere.
i have nba live 07 right now
and i play that with my roomates. man steve kerr is an idiot announcer.
Hell yeah
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by Wil Cantrell on Jan 28, 2010 12:32 PM MST up reply actions
lol ~240 comments in just under 3 hours
80 comments an hour!
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Do you think Kerr ever peruses the blogs just to see what fans are saying?
I can just imagine him reading this and thinking, “You idiots…this hasn’t even been discussed.”
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
I can see him checking every once in awhile.
Just not faithfully, like us. Haha.
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by Trevor Paxton on Jan 28, 2010 12:36 PM MST up reply actions
And by faithfully you mean...
obsessively :p
by Lorenzo Franceschi Bicchierai on Jan 28, 2010 12:37 PM MST up reply actions
I was trying to avoid admitting that.
But yes. Haha.
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by Trevor Paxton on Jan 28, 2010 12:37 PM MST up reply actions
I'm looking for a job if you guys have any spots open
Come on Steve, DO IT!
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
We aren’t going to get anything near what you guys are hoping for, for Amare.
It is entirely possible the Suns just resign him to a reasonable deal. With a new CBA coming soon and the players union expected to make concessions I don’t think there will be as much money to go around from the other teams in the league. I don’t think any team will offer Amare a max deal and the Suns will get him for a reasonable price.
The W's have 1 untradable
You will not get Curry so get over that. You will get Monta and Maggette and be grateful at that!
by Eschew Obfuscation on Jan 28, 2010 1:49 PM MST reply actions
id be all over that
if you gave us your first round picks for the next 5 years…
Banzai!
by Suns' Sensei on Jan 28, 2010 1:53 PM MST up reply actions
Latest rumor is Amare to
Miami for O’Neal straght up. Wow! I am underwhelmed at that. Its obvious that the value for Amare is far less now then it was the off Season.
by Eschew Obfuscation on Jan 28, 2010 2:19 PM MST reply actions
hater, maybe not - homer-who-is-in-man-love-with-steph-curry-like-the-rest-of-the-world-and-is-scared-his-horrible-team's-frontoffice-is-going-to-trade-him-away.... yes
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
We are about owned by the 4th richest guy in the world
and you guys have?……..Sarver? hahahhahahaha I sense a major shift in power coming.
by Eschew Obfuscation on Jan 28, 2010 2:38 PM MST up reply actions
In case you didn't hear - your team is up for sale fyi
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
btw -
It’s so cool your team was formally owned by the 4th richest guy in the world – I bet you guys loved being in the playoffs almost every year and contending for a title. I’m super jealous.
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Correct me if Im wrong
but O’Neal’s contract is expiring right? So we would only have him for a bit then be rid of his contract? Why is that so bad. Then we have a ton of cap space at the end or can resign him for less
Reading is good...
Theres an article on Yahoo sports
that says the says the suns aren’t worried about losing amar’e for nothing, but are worried about him opting-in and staying, so they want to tade him for a properly expiring contract.
I thought it was total bullcrap, but make of it what you will.
Numbers don't work straight up
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
man
I really can’t spend much time here until after the all star break … it’s much too depressing.
TO THE NBA - " Yeah, you have created a rift within me ; Now there have been ; several complications ; that have left me feeling nothing ; I might say, you were ; wrong to take it from me ; Left me feeling nothing " - Disturbed, "Numb"
I hate the suggestions from Golden State of Mind.
They’re acting like we WANT Maggette. No, Maggette’s the thrown-in guys. Randolph and/or Curry are the reason we do the trade.
Funny?
You all have a guy who is gonna leave in a few months where you get NOTHING, yet you think you can strip the Dubs of all its young talent for an aging malcontent. Your lucky to be getting Maggette.
by Eschew Obfuscation on Jan 28, 2010 2:35 PM MST up reply actions
And you are the warriors... end of story
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Again, you misunderstand: we do not WANT Maggette.
If we took him, it’d be the price we paid to snag Randolph and/or Curry.
haha made me smile out loud - sol?
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Exactly! Thats the problem though. The team does NOT want to resign him.
by Eschew Obfuscation on Jan 28, 2010 3:08 PM MST up reply actions
We don't want to re-sign him at max money
But we want to re-sign him.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
if amare is aging
then you mean the warriors have veteran talent :)
Banzai!
by Suns' Sensei on Jan 28, 2010 2:46 PM MST up reply actions
Yes.
Corey Maggette will be our savior. He will revolutionize basketball. He will cure cancer. And all while under a reasonable contract.
IGGY for AMARE?
I mentioned this above but I’ll start anew here -
So here is the dig from KTAR.com
The Suns have had discussions with the Philadelphia 76ers – particularly interested in Andre Iguodala. The shooting guard is averaging 17.5 points per game this season and has three years left on his current contract.
Looking in to it – the way this could work is if we send Amare to Philadelphia, we potentially get back,
1)Andre Iguadala
2)Draft pick/s – (the 76ers have all of their picks through 2012 to give, 1st and 2nd rounders)
or
1)Andre Iguadala
2)Cap filler in the form of either – Rodney Carney or big C Primoz Brezec
or IF THEY ARE REALLY DESPERATE to shed bills,
1)Andre Iguadala
2)Either Speights or Jason Smith ( I doubt the give JRue Holiday)
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Good!
I’d like to have Iguodala, except that he plays the positions of Richardson, Hill, Dudley and Clark.
Should start him at the 3
and then either bring Hill of the bench with less minutes (he’d be more effective that way) or send him to a contender for an expiring contract and a pick.
We had Hill on the bench last year remember
He is too old to get warmed up and then get cold on the bench to then get warmed back up to play. His production doubled when we had him starting over Barns remember?
Yeah but thats over Matt Barnes
I’d accept a reduced production from hill if he was behing Iggy. Or we could make him a token starter and play him 20 mins a game with iggy getting the most minutes.
I agree with that as well
But he can defend well why not throw him at the SG since the west is stacked in that position…?
Well you'd put him on the oppositions best wing, as long as it's not Lebron/Carmelo/Durant J-rich has the size to guard most 3s
but mainly i’d play him at the 3 because i think hill is too old to play major minutes and still be a contributor. Especially on b2bs.
Yeah definately exeptions
But i really like JRIch in the second unit and Iggy is a way better defender.
Iggy can definitely guard all those guys sufficiently
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
igg would be a killer 2 for us w/ e.clark moving into starting at 3
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i just want to know how serious this rumor is
because i’m getting quite excited.
Today its serious
tomorrow it will be old news and something else will be serious
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by Seth Pollack on Jan 28, 2010 3:54 PM MST up reply actions
Thats really dumb.
They already have Speights, Brand, and Dalembert in their frontcourt. Why would they trade a wing for a position they are crowded at?
Thats why we would have to take a front court player.
Its not going to be IGGY for STAT straight up, we will have to take Dalembert or Brand in the deal
Richardson+Amare
for Iggy+Dalembert+Picks
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
I don't think they'd want richardson, maybe Barbosa?
I think the main reason philly would do this deal would be in the hope STAT opts out for cap-relief, unless they envision him playing center with Brand at the 4.
JRich's money is too much to ship conjointly with STAT
The point of a 76er’s trade is so that they can shed some bills – not add them.
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Actually
the only way this makes sense for Philly is if they trade Iggy and Brand for Amare and JRich.
JRich only has $14.4m for next year and Amare will opt out so they would be trading $51m from Brand and $56m owed to Iggy. That’s a huge salary dump if they are looking to sell their team.
I don’t know that I do that though for the Suns. Brand is averaging 15 and 5 and can’t jump at all. I would want more from Philly to sweeten the deal. 1st rd pick at least
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by Seth Pollack on Jan 28, 2010 3:41 PM MST up reply actions
first rounder and speights or thad young
I’m down with getting those guys
I really liked Brand as a Clipper, but post-injury he really just….does not amuse me at all.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
The suns medical staff does work wonders
maybe we could keep him for a year, show everyone he can produce when given the chance and then send him to a contender for an expiring contract.
You'd be for it
but would sarver and Kerr? Thats the million dollar question.
give us igg, speights, first round unprotected, and ugly contract for amare and whatever filler they want. pick
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I like that
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
We don't HAVE to take one of their big men,
But they do have to get rid of them.
If we did take either Dalembert or Brand we would need to include Barbosa in the deal
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Iggy+Speights!
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
I honestly think philly would give us every player on their roster
if we took brand. I’m talking holiday, speights, young, iggy EVERYBODY. but i still don’t think it’s worth it to get locked up by brands contract.
Brand's contract=death
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Every player on their roster eh?
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yzlw64f
SHAZAM!
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Its kind of funny
on the GS boards they would rather get JRich back over Amare, they loved that dude I say trade JRich to GS as well for pieces.
Amare is viewed as a lazy PF who is half the player he used to be.
That is the perception accurate or not.
by Eschew Obfuscation on Jan 28, 2010 3:03 PM MST reply actions
I won't feed this troll anymore
He just continues to chant the same toll road warnings… I half expect him to ask “What is your favorite color!”
haha (any M.Python fans in the house?)
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Monty Python is awesome
lets talk about the merits of life of brian over king arthur and the holy grail instead of these boring trade posts!
How do you know so much about swallows?!
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Lol
He’s not the son of god, he’s a very naughty boy!
But I'm not dead yet!!
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
But you haven't got any arms!
No, tis but a scratch!
It's just a flesh wound!
What are you going to do? BLEED ON ME?
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
But I want the girl that I marry to have acertain, special something...
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by Wil Cantrell on Jan 28, 2010 5:57 PM MST up reply actions
Hey I'm just saying what the perception is. Thats not trolling.
by Eschew Obfuscation on Jan 28, 2010 3:06 PM MST reply actions
I'm just saying -
You should probably cut and paste it one more time so we all can read it again – I forgot the details the first 6 times you posted your interpreted perception.
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
question
When you receive a player, how long before you can trade him again? I was thinking about how that would limit the ability to promptly flip players received in trades.
We need Iggy and the 76ers unprotected first round pick, then give us whatever filler. maybe speights could be thrown in. we could give up someone else to cover the differences. I would rather get sammy the elton but i want lopez to get those minutes and see what he can do.
"Stop denying the inevitable, the time has come to rebuild"
rgreyslak@gmail.com twitter @rgreyslak
From the talks on the GSW board Randolph is going to want a huge contract
apparently his agent has already stated that, although I believe he has at least 2 years left on his contract currently
His agent
might want to consider the whole CBA-expiring thing before he gets Randolph’s head filled with dreams of bathtubs full of money.
You can speculate on the new CBA
But you dont know how it will pan out… I very much doubt salaries are going to drop at all…
Nah
I mean that’s plenty of time to see what he’s worth and besides, the new CBA will likely make the “max” much lower. Even now, a players 1st max contract isn’t in the 20m range. Look at Paul, DWill, Roy…$13m escalating to $17m just like Amare.
The second free agent contract is where it gets nuts. That’s where you ended up Marbury, T-Mac, Rashard, etc.
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by Seth Pollack on Jan 28, 2010 3:44 PM MST up reply actions
Im just saying that if we develop Randolph
We will be in the same Amare situation next year when we start debating whether or not to move him because we dont want to pay him…. we all know if we pick him up playing with Nash he will average 20+ a night so he will want a max type deal as well and we will be in the same place we are at now…
Who knows what'll happen though
He might actually prove himself worthy of big, big money. He’s still very young.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Randolph has huge upside.
if we got GSW,
Dragic PG
scurry sg
Earl Clark sf
a randolph ph
rlopez z
that would be interresting to watch develop and if we suck for a few years keep those draft picks. that would be awesome
"Stop denying the inevitable, the time has come to rebuild"
rgreyslak@gmail.com twitter @rgreyslak
True but you think the odds that he will be better than Amare are that good?
I do not and since we are unwilling to give amare a max we aren’t going to pay big money to someone not as good as amare when his deal runs out
I think it's worth a chance
"Stop denying the inevitable, the time has come to rebuild"
rgreyslak@gmail.com twitter @rgreyslak
we wouldn't have to pay him right away
"Stop denying the inevitable, the time has come to rebuild"
rgreyslak@gmail.com twitter @rgreyslak
But
The new CBA will likely lower the limit of Randolph’s max contract anyway. However, it might also lower the salary cap relative to the new max contract, so might be the same bind, just on a lower scale.
Who is going to lower the salary caps? Give me a break
Stern is not going to do that and risk talent loss to Euroupe…
Nothing that extreme.
But there’s no way Stern’s going to watch players make $25 million a year on a $60 million salary cap either.
I'd lock Lebron up for the entire salary cap
surround him with d-leaguers and he’d STILL be better than half the teams in the league.
so you're saying he is stat reincarnated...
"Stop denying the inevitable, the time has come to rebuild"
rgreyslak@gmail.com twitter @rgreyslak
Phi – we need igg , unprotected pick, and filler. we will throw in other players to get speights.
GSW – great trade would love to have randolph, steph, and whatever crap they want to throw our way. they suck they must have draft picks 2
"Stop denying the inevitable, the time has come to rebuild"
rgreyslak@gmail.com twitter @rgreyslak
See
I am ok with Brand. The dude has been playing well lately and in LAC he was an All Star. If he can play that well again then great. With Iggy or Speights it would be filler. I dont like Brand’s contract, but its not that bad especially a we will be losing Rich’s next year.
Reading is good...
Yeah.
When he plays well…which means in any system not as haphazardly thrown together as the 76ers…he is really good. Very efficient…very smart.
Reading is good...
haha
I am tripping all over this 76ers IGGY trade idea… It just seems too good to be possible. I think IGGY is amazing and would ABSOLUTELY THRIVE playing along side Steve Nash.
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Iggy is a great rebounder and defender.
whatchutalkinbout willis?
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Am I right in thinking that when healthy, Brand is like Kurt Thomas, but better (as opposed to Stoudemire)?
I always got the impression he's like Al Jefferson but older.
More of a back to the basket guy, can hit the mid-range J
dubs fan here. trust me, you don’t want any of our players — save curry
i subject myself to punishment every time i watch these guys play
Oh, but we do.
We really do.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
I just hope
all you people show up tonight to talk about….THE GAME
Insane # of comments….
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I'd watch it,
because I’m a masochist, but I’ll be at work. I’ll probably still sneak some peeks just to torture myself.
My ILP doesn't work for live games
so i have to watch it tomorow when its already happened.
I'll be playing a game myself tonight
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Has Maggette ever been on a winning team? It’s always hard to predict how someone will change once they’re on a winning team…not that it will be dramatic, but you never know exactly.
True enough.
Maggette has always been on teams where he HAD to put his head down and score a lot, because no one else could.
He was pretty productive on the 05/06 Clips team that almost beat us in the semis
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
He could be the next Jamal Crawford
spend years losing but then when he’s in the right situation they flourish.
Just like JRich changed when he came here to Phx?
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
I just want this whole thing to end quickly one way or another
The wait is killer.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
seems like our source over at RealGM is getting PO'd
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It happens to every single one of them
He’s our third so far. First one was pretty amazing in that he would seemingly get real-time updates from whoever he knew in the FO. Then Gambo started quoting HIM and his threads, so he bounced.
Second guy was…kind of insane. Grew a little power-hungry and started making up ish just for the heck of it. He was everywhere and then suddenly he went dark. Talking to the other mods, it seems like a serious possibility that the FO was trying to find the mole. Maybe they found him? Either way, he was crazy.
Third man is legit, but he can only pass along what he hears, and some people freak out when he doesn’t give them enough(even though he doesn’t have to tell us anything). He’s a really reasonable dude though.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
how often do they last normally?
like have we had 3 in 3 years, 5 years, this year?
If this is a reliable source, I can’t believe any Suns fan would want to mess that up.
Well let us know if there’s anything we need to know.
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I've only been there for about 3 years now
So once a year generally. Hopefully traxxe sticks around. Some people just take this stuff too seriously haha.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
"some people" being the posters who are haranguing him, not traxxe himself*
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
right, exactly.
well i can kinda feel a trade in my bones sometime in the next week. when trade talk/speculation gets this crazy, something usually happens soon after.
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Sorry, something happened and that posted before I finished typing it. What I meant to say it, Rsavaj, do you have any idea how bizarre that sounded? It was just short of being hilarious. Power hungry? Suddenly he went dark? Find the mole? Have you been watching 24 nonstop?
My e-life is so exciting!
And last November was my 8th year of watching 24 :o….
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
forums down
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Yep
The terrorists have hacked into our server
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
you ARE into 24....
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Any possibility for a 3-team deal?
I highly doubt this will happen but if the Warriors or Suns were to send a pick or cash to the 76ers the Suns could make off with a pretty good haul.
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yf46m6b
by MarauderMania44 on Jan 28, 2010 4:47 PM MST reply actions
Like I said...
I highly doubt it would happen but the Warriors would get hometown hero richardson back and a good nellieball player in Barbosa
by MarauderMania44 on Jan 28, 2010 6:01 PM MST up reply actions
so today's game
mavs + TNT curse…I’m predicting a Suns win.
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by PHXgp on Jan 28, 2010 5:11 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
preview
Have a guest preview coming soon…as in a preview written by a guest writer
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by Seth Pollack on Jan 28, 2010 5:12 PM MST up reply actions
oh..that's awhat a guest preview is.
I thought you were going to preview a guest at first.
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I think either of those guys could shift over to the 2.
Then we’d probably work to trade LB or JRich.
some perspective
Per 36 minute numbers-
Maggette
24.0 pts 7.1 rebs 2.9 asts 3.0 to’s .1 blk 1.0 stls .630 TS%
Stoudemire
21.4 pts 8.7 rebs 1.1 asts 2.7 to’s 1.0 blk .8 stls .606 TS%
THIS year Maggette is as good of a basketball player as Amare Stoudemire at about half the cost. Sure its not great to have 3 more years committed to an injury prone guy who just turned 30, but he’s not the one thats gonna demand a max contract next season. Any talk of landing Curry AND Randolph in addition to Maggette is madness. The Warriors front office hasn’t historically been very smart, but they arent that dumb. The idea that Maggette’s contract is terrible has been repeated so many times that everyone now assumes it to be true without actually thinking about it any more. As a GS fan I hated the Maggette signing from day 1 and until this year I was all for dumping him for whatever we could get. But right now he’s a very good basketball player, and I’d be disappointed to see him shipped out of town with a top young player for a similar player with similar history of poor health who will command twice as much money.
Thing A
funny
GSW homer here.
Funny reading both sides. Our headline made it look like you guys wanted Maggette as much as we want to get rid of him. You guys obviously value Stoudemire way more then we do. We doubt he would resign with us, so it’s just another salary dump. Most of us just want to sell high on Maggette, the fans would love JRich back, but I doubt the FO wants anything to do with his contract. When we traded him it was basically a salary dump.
No way you’re getting Curry, but I wouldn’t put it past management to throw in Randolph. If they wouldn’t move an unproven Curry on draft day, why would they move him now that he’s show flashes of greatness? I’m a huge Randolph fan and would like to see him become a star, be it on the Warriors or another team (but preferably with us, Ha).
All us GS fans are all fired up at the possibility of an ownership change with Larry “Winning is not enough, all others must lose” Ellison taking charge. Then after we trade for Stoudemire, he’d see how committed we are to suddenly winning and resign with enough cap room to sign . So, obviously our masterplan will unfold flawlessly and we’ll be conference champ contenders next year!
And just to quote TNT from tonight.
Kenny: “What do you call a power forward that doesn’t get 10 rebounds a game?”
Charles: “A small forward.”
Warriors Fan here too
Yoshi summed it up nicely. You guys value STAT more than we do and you are also underestimating how much we love Curry. Curry is our Steve Nash. Randolph is our…we don’t know, but he’s young and raw and we want to see him develop something, anything in GS.
That being said, Curry is out of the question. Randolph, maybe not so much.
But hey, we’ll give you the rare opportunity of having Devean George! Proven Championship Experience, baby!
Confident Marco Belinelli supporter
You Warriors guys are missing the point
which is if (BIG IF) the Warriors want to dump Corey’s contract in return for Amare’s expiring so they can drop payroll to sell the company…
So in this scenario the Warriors current owner (Cohen) wants us to help him out by taking on Maggette’s obligation and the price for the Suns to do that is young talent and/or picks.
Curry and Randolph is a dream package for sure and not likely. Beyond that…Do you know how desperate Cohen is to shed payroll? I don’t.
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by Seth Pollack on Jan 29, 2010 1:38 PM MST up reply actions
Definitely not missing the point, sir. I understand it is really about a salary dump for the Warriors and for Phoenix to be able to get something in return before Stoudemire walks.
However, I don’t think the move should be considered a pre-cursor to the sale of the team. I think Cohan just wants to shed payroll because he’s in big financial trouble. The Warriors might be his one source of revenue but revenue is definitely down this year. He had an IRS problem a while ago but sources say that may or may not have gone away.
Cohan’s tenure hasn’t been about being cheap, just about making really bad decisions. The bad decisions might have finally caught up to him where he is now desperate to minimize the financial hemorrhaging.
If this is a pre-cursor to selling the team to Ellison, hallelujah! But, I think at this point it is unlikely.
Confident Marco Belinelli supporter
by Doctor Kajita on Jan 29, 2010 1:54 PM MST up reply actions
This move would probably be compounded by more bad decisions by Warriors FO instead of the sale of the team.
It’s like when Baron Davis opted out, they were given all this cap space to play around with. They tried to overpay for Brand, Arenas, and then eventually settled for Maggette. All three of those signings would have been bad.
Confident Marco Belinelli supporter
by Doctor Kajita on Jan 29, 2010 2:03 PM MST up reply actions
Isn’t everything in these threads a “BIG IF”? Obviously none of us work for the Suns or Warriors FO, no one knows what the Warriors true intentions are or what the Suns are willing to take back for Amare. All we can do is speculate and add in our all fan pipe-dreams to fuel the discussion. So, I don’t really see what point I’m missing.
The majority of Warriors fans hated the Maggette signing and have wanted to dump his contract since, though he has changed many opinions as of late with his stellar efficient play the past month or two. We know you want back youth or picks back for Amare, because realistically I don’t see you getting comparable talent.
by Yoshi on Jan 29, 2010 3:12 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
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