Breaking Down a Potential Bulls-Suns Deal for Amare
by Wil Cantrell on Jan 30, 2010 6:46 PM MST
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The Chicago Bulls are a potential trade partner in an Amare Stoudemire deal. The most recent speculation was that the Bulls and Suns had spoken, and afterwards, the Bulls interest was said to have "wavered." Still, since there are a lot of feasible options, it's worth exploring.
Amare's Big Market
The Bulls meet Amare's criteria for signing an extension based on Chicago's big market. To play in the house where Jordan played, and along side Derrick Rose would no doubt motivate Amare to ink his name on a deal that would be more to his market value instead of his MAX delusion.
Trade Pieces:
The Bulls have some dead weight in expiring contracts the Suns could take off their hands. They also have some intriguing young talent.
Every rumored trade scenario thus far has included Tyrus Thomas (yawn).
Joakim Noah and Derrick Rose are untouchable at this point.
Here are some possible pieces in a deal:
- Tyrus Thomas $4.8 million expiring
- Luol Deng $61,675,000 remaining through the 2013/2014 season
- Brad Miller expiring $12.5 million
- John Salmons $6.7 million dollar player option
- Kirk Hinrich $21 million through 2012
- Jerome James expiring
- Taj Gibson
- James Johnson
The Bulls are probably not interested in giving up any young, cheap talent (Gibson, Johnson). A deal whereby the Suns pick up Thomas, the expiring of a Pargo, Jerome James, and or Brad Miller would work cap wise. But Thomas does little to make up for Amare's offensive production.
At USC he broke a school career-record with 253 blocked shots, which was the third-highest total in Pac-10 Conference history. Gibson ranks second on the school career-record list with 896 rebounds.
As a rookie, Gibson is putting up fairly good numbers, averaging a block a game and 6 rebounds per contest. I also like the 48.5% from the field, which from a rookie, is pretty good.
Another potential piece in a deal with the Bulls is James Johnson-another cheap youngster. Johnson was a college PF but projects as a future NBA SF, comparable in build to Ron Artest. Johnson's scouting report sounds a lot like Earl Clark's. His college numbers look similar, his size is similar, and his "tendency to fall asleep" during games sounds a bit like Clark. Johnson is more of a project than Gibson, but his athleticism is encouraging.
Another thought could be to add Barbosa as a sweetener. We may be able to pull more than one useful chip along with an expiring. Adding both Thomas in the mix with Gibson and possibly including Heinrich would be a decent haul. Heinrich's pretty much a PG, which would create a log jam now, however I could see the suns shuffling lineups and working through it. Adding his defense and play making ability would be a positive. Of course Heinrich's contract is big and may prove to be a barrier in his inclusion.
Draft Picks
The Bulls have a first round pick in 2010, but most likely wouldn't package it in any deal as their 2nd goes to Portland.
Options
There are manydifferent ways the Suns could go, depending on whether they wanted to add Barbosa to the mix:
Option 1: Salmons, Tyrus, James For Amare
Option 2: Hinrich and Salmons and Bulls 1st for Amare
Option 3: Hinrich, James, Salmons, Gibson for Amare and Leandro
Option 4: Deng, Salmons, James for Amare and Leandro
There are certainly plenty of other options, so if these are unappealing, feel free to share, cause sharing is caring.
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If Tyrus Thomas comes back for Amar'e....
I will flip the hell out. I cannot stand that guy. We already had Stromile Swift.
http://seasonsofdiscontent.com/
I think the Bulls feel the same way
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by Wil Cantrell on Jan 30, 2010 6:54 PM MST up reply actions
Why? Is he a slacker? Please explain—all I’ve heard is that he is a great athlete, plays defense, and might be a head case.
by species8473 on Jan 30, 2010 10:43 PM MST up reply actions
I think he's a guy who has a lot of tools at his disposal
But doesn’t have a high enough bball IQ to use them properly, much like Stromile Swift.
Just a quick correction
It’s Hinrich, no e
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
I was using the alternate spelling, but I suppose this is no place for it...
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by Wil Cantrell on Jan 30, 2010 7:13 PM MST up reply actions
Why the fuck would we want Brand?
I like that 3rd option. Kirk is one of my favourite players. Salmons would be a nice throw in. Taj is a very good role player. But we’d still lack one great player to be a playoff team.
I like option 3 because we get defense in return. As for option 1; I hate it. We don’t want Thomas.
As far as teh Philly rumors go. I heard that Iggy is available as long as the team also takes Dalembart’s contract. A Suns6ers trade seems to be possible. They would have to include Speights though or at least a 1st rounder.
Why would we want Speights?
Doesn’t he play center? I’m actually quite pleased with what Lopez has been doing lately.
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by iamtrevorpaxton on Jan 31, 2010 9:02 PM MST up reply actions
Definitely my least favorite trade partner.
I like Deng, but yes, quite overpaid. Thomas is okay as a throw-in to see if he develops, but I’d rather have Taj Gibson or James Johnson. Hinrich is good, but again, overpaid.
by jburning on Jan 30, 2010 7:36 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
+1
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
The more the days go by
the more I think the Suns are going to keep Amare. I think he walks after this year.
His trade value is not as strong as it was 2 months ago. Actually for an All star it is weak.
I want him gone, but I just see any team making a move unless it is for a salary dump.
I just really don't see what the Suns would gain from letting him walk.
Except maybe a better chance at making the playoffs this year. But if it came down to it, I think the Suns would move him for minimal assets, as long as a draft pick and expiring contracts were involved. I just see letting him walk as the last resort. I’d see an extension for him before I see letting him walk for nothing.
Agreed but....
Why make a bad deal just to make a deal? And why spend money to avoid the unknown?
What you say makes sense in a way. Obviously getting nothing is bad. But what I see going on is kind of a bad chess match, maybe even a checkers game.
It’s so clear to everyone in the NBA that Amare isn’t a max guy, still he wants the money and won’t relent, which says to me he wants to opt out, get a new, longer deal with a team of his choosing. Kerr is doing the right thing in sticking to his guns.
To use another analogous phrase, this is about who blinks first, and Amare wins either way. If Kerr gets nervous (which I doubt he will), Amare gets what he wants or close to, and he gets to stay in his comfort zone. If Kerr can’t get a decent deal for the Suns, Amare gets to walk.
There will be someone who wants to pay him good money (not max money) over an extended period of time, and it won’t be the Suns. Don’t let Amare’s words fool you. It isn’t about the winning, it’s about the chedda. How long before the Nets are a quality team? For him to say he’d go there says more about his personal ambitions than money. He sees they would build around him and Devin Harris, (if he doesn’t get dealt), and Brooke Lopez. Those may be decent pieces for NJ, but they are far from being a playoff team.
The Suns know what this guy brings to the table here in PHX and he’s not worth what he says he thinks he’s worth. I think Amare doesn’t want to stay, so why would he make it easy on the Suns and come down from his MAX request?
Further, Amare has time whereas the Suns do not if they are worried about him walking.
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by Wil Cantrell on Jan 30, 2010 10:06 PM MST up reply actions
Agree
about the “chedda” Amare is all about that.
What I hear out of New York/Jersey, ( I am an East Coast guy, listen to a lot of New York sports) the Nets are not to happy with Harris and he could be moved.
Kerr is in a corner here. I just hope Amare is gone, and the Suns get a 1 and one solid player in return.
why would Amar'e walk?
$17 million to stay, and free agency in 20011. If he gets 5 years $55 million now, that is the same as 4 years $38 million next summer. The latter is FAR more realistic (it is 2 million less per year), no?
Do the math, and no matter which way you work it, Amar’e walking on $17 million is cuckoo.
Many a Athlete
has turn down the dollar that you and I would think " This guy is crazy" and get a better deal and for the most part a bad deal, just ask Johnny Damon of the Yankees.
Kerr is in a really tough spot. He has to make a move, because Amare wants the dollar that he really is not worth. Suns have to deal him.
Theres a new CBA agreement in 2011 and salaries could go down dramatically.
Also, more teams would have cap space this summer so he’s more likely to get a bigger deal from a team that has missed out on the big 3 of Bosh, Lebron and Wade and wants something to show for their cap space. Oh and i think amar’es going to get a lot more than 5years 55million, if he only wanted that i’d sign him in an instant.
Ben Gordon Signed for 5/55 last summer
you don’t think Amar’e is better than Ben Gordon? Its only $11mil a year, he’s getting $16million this year.
Its not a question of whether that was a dumb signing or not
But Amar’e is going to sign somewhere for way more than that, He’s worth $13-$14 mill a year definitely.
Amare is easily worth 11 mill a year,
I’m a bulls fan looking in though, I think you’re being a little overly critical just because he’s been with the Suns so long. It’s easy to nitpick when you’ve been able to see every flaw for 8 years.
by BigBabyCollin on Feb 1, 2010 9:23 PM MST up reply actions
I would pay Amare $55 million for 5 years.
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by iamtrevorpaxton on Jan 31, 2010 9:10 PM MST up reply actions
I don’t know if the Suns will keep Stoudemire, but I feel positive that they aren’t on the very edge of trading him, for lack of a good deal. EVery rumor and discussion has been smoke.
Also, he doesn’t seem to particularly want to leave, and isn’t disrupting the team in some way. So those potential motivations to trade him are not there.
by species8473 on Jan 30, 2010 10:48 PM MST up reply actions
I’m actually hoping for a deal with the 76ers. It is a possibility, but we won’t know until the deadline to where Amar’e gets traded. I’m just hoping its with this team.
Possible deals include:
Amare and Barbosa for Iggy, Sam and Speights.
Amare and J-Rich for Iggy, Sam and Speights.
They both work money wise. I think the 76ers would rather take Barbosa’s contract instead of J-Rich though. Either way I think this deal makes us better. Iggy is a really good defender from what I’ve heard and Speights is a young guy with potential. After all, Kerr said he will only make a deal if it makes us better. The only way I see that happening through an Amare trade is if we get good defense in return.
It wouldn't be the worst thing in the world if we took Brand
Especially if we were compensated with a pick. Remember that Gentry coached Brand for a while with the clippers so the front office would know what they’re getting into.
I think with the new CBA coming up it would be unwise to take on a contract like Brand's
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
I know that would suck
it’s just that i saw the lakers-Philly game on friday and was impressed by Brand. I was under the impression that he was pretty much a stiff but he was looking pretty mobile and active.
Ive actually liked tyrus thomas i think he could do a lot of things defensively that matrix did..I wouldnt trade stat to get him..If we trade Stat out of respect we have to trade Nash and Hill to contenders..I kind of dont understand the reason for re-signing them if we’re in rebuild mode..However i dont think stat gets traded but I do think if we find a partner j-rich does
DONT WASTE OUR TIME
No more Chicago trade rumours. This is the end, I completely shut down this post, the easiest thing to do is assume that since contracts work out that we should make a trade with Chicago, Kerr is an intelligent man there is no way he is doing business with Chi Town I would rathar see Amare walk than see Deng in a Suns Jersey and Kerr agrees with our great city (plus our lightrail) on this one.
Nash can make ANOYONE a 20+ scorer but lets make it easier on the guy and give him someone easy to work with.
I’d rather trade amare to Boston for Sheed and Allen and then release Allen so he can resign with Boston.
At least YOU WOULD FINALLY SHUT UP, NOBODY DID THIS TRADE LAST YEAR NOBODY IS GOING TO DO IT THIS YEAR.
AS A COMPLEMENT TO ALL OF US SUNS FANS I AM TAKING THIS AWFUL POST DOWN
Um Yeah Mr. Howard
Just a little something to have fun with. If it isn’t for you, best sit this play out.
Oh and only PHX Seth/Stan can take a post down.
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by Wil Cantrell on Jan 31, 2010 9:35 AM MST up reply actions
jesus christ
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
What does the light rail have anything to do with this?
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by iamtrevorpaxton on Jan 31, 2010 9:16 PM MST up reply actions
Lets Stop Living in a Dream World and get back to Reality
They will never trade Deng or Gibson for Amare. It’s not going to happen. They both play defense and play very hard; and actually care about getting better.
Amare is a waste of potential. I think the Suns would just be better off letting him go to another team for expiring contracts and a draft pick. That’s the best they will be getting.
Let’s get real here -
Amare will not resign with a team that is not in a big city; or is capable of winning it all. So that crosses almost all teams off the list.
Miami is not going to give up Beasley for him. Lets stop dreaming.
Amare is not going to resign with Sacramento, Golden State, Washington – so let’s stop this Butler, Monte, etc… talk
New York has no interest in Amare
New Jersey is so pathetic that they will be scared to watch Amare leave
Chicago is playing very well right now; and they care about players who plays defense. That’s not Amare. Chicago is waiting for Bosh or Wade.
Amare is a pampered princess who sulks when not getting his way. He also wants max money while only playing half the game “offense”. He will need future knee surgery. His eyes are wacked. Wow. What a treasure.
It’s hopeless. Just let him leave on his own. And be done with it. Suns will get nothing for him.
Of course they'd trade Deng and Gibson for Amare
If you said “Rose” or “Noah”, then yeah, I’d agree with you.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Bulls would not
trade both of those players for Amare. Suns would be lucky to get Deng, Miller and a No 1 for STAT
If they'd trade Deng+Tyrus, they'd trade Deng+Gibson
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Its a hell of a lot more likely
that we’d get Deng + Gibson than Deng + a first rounder.
I watch every single bulls game,
and you are waaaaaaaaaay overrating Taj Gibson, he’s a solid backup, that’s it, yes he’s a rookie. But he’s also nearly 25.
by BigBabyCollin on Feb 1, 2010 9:28 PM MST up reply actions
We do not live in the 90s anymore
I’m glad we do not trade him for any of the aweful trades listed above, western medicine is beautiful in that someone who is properly taken care of can come back from microfacture surgery (uhhhh Kobe).
You don’t know your Amare trivia I see from your above post, go back to the LA forum chump
LOL!!
What a fool. I’m a Suns fan. I’ve actually watched Amare play this year. I guess you haven’t cause you make no sense.
Samboy
out of the closet to call the fool.
I believe Kerr knows this situation better than all of us. He understands if Amare walks with no return would be a brutal situation for the Suns. He needs to get something done, I believe he will.
But
Then why are we seeing the de-emphasization of Amare in the Suns game plan, as this is lowering rather than raising his trade value?
Does it matter?
That picks gone, a player is going to be picked with it and they’re not coming to phoenix. It makes no sense to do something that adversely affects our team because of resentment that OKC has our pick. I really hope Kerr doesn’t turn down trades which will improve our future in favour of trades which won’t be as good long term but will keep us in the playoff hunt this year just because he doesn’t want OKC to get a high pick.
Miss my point
The OKC pick is what happen in the past and a sad reminder of what this franchise has done to numerous picks, basically gave them away for cap space and or save money.
Kerr will move Amare to better this team. He has become a distraction because of his demands.
Got to win games
If you wanted to move Amare in Feb and get max return value, wouldnt YOU make him look good? (think Nash)
Yeah Kobe's never had MF
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
One more thing...
There is NO WAY in the world Iguodala is traded unless a team takes back either Brand or Dalambert. No way in hell. Iguodala is pure sweetener for agreeing to take a bad contract.
I'd trade Richardson+Amare for Iggy+Dalembert
And then try to flip Dalmebert to Sacramento for Kenny Thomas’s expiring.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
I went on the 76ers blog yesterday
and apparently some fans there are as sick of Iggy as some people here are sick of Amar’e. Apparently they think he should be doing than 18/6/6.
I guess the grass is always greener on the other side, eh?
We’re going to miss Amare when he leaves, but bottom line is that we can’t pay max money for a guy who is not a max player. That’s the end of it :(
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Yeah i'll miss STAT
maybe if we get Michael Beasley for him he can give us something that’ll help us forget.
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Amare
Has every reason in the world to play his guts out right now. He’s coming off the eye surgery and the knee is always an issue.
His trade value isn’t good now because teams understand he’s a defensive liability. He’s had a few strings of good games, that is, games in which he rebounded and scored, but for the most part he’s the same old Amare.
Interesting font you got going there.
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by Wil Cantrell on Jan 31, 2010 9:32 AM MST up reply actions
Amare has zero reasons to play his heart out for Suns in the past month
1] Because by shopping him, Suns management has made it clear that they don’t want the team to make the play-offs and that a salary dump is more important.
2] The Suns management and even many of the fans don’t want him. Amare averaged 20-10 for a stretch of 10 games before Suns made it known they were shopping him and that they do not want want him.
3] Amare is still recovering from injuries and he is the best player when it comes to recovery. Big men are injured all the time and I’m willing to gamble on someone who comes back from his injuries better than before.
No
1] Because by shopping him, Suns management has made it clear that they don’t want the team to make the play-offs and that a salary dump is more important.
Where do you come up with this? Shopping Amare does NOT equate to Management not wanting the team to make the playoffs. They are doing their job like any other front office would. Doing nothing and letting the guy walk is bad business and incompetent managing. They made their offer and attempted to negotiate. Amare didn’t want it. So do they do nothing now?
2] The Suns management and even many of the fans don’t want him. Amare averaged 20-10 for a stretch of 10 games before Suns made it known they were shopping him and that they do not want want him.
Been to a game recently in Phoenix? Suns fans applaud Amare’s introduction louder than anyone, or perhaps equal to Nash. If they didn’t want him, why act like you do? I think any of us would want Amare, for the right price., and that’s not the price he’s asking.
3] Amare is still recovering from injuries and he is the best player when it comes to recovery. Big men are injured all the time and I’m willing to gamble on someone who comes back from his injuries better than before.
He’s the best player when it comes to recovery? What does that even mean? If he’s not recovered from microfacture surgery then yeah, I’d say he will never be. But we’d know it if his knee was still bothering him. And his eye, well, I don’t think there’s any evidence to show he hasn’t recovered. He’s averaging near his career averages, Amare is healthy.
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by Wil Cantrell on Jan 31, 2010 4:56 PM MST up reply actions
Will, no way the Suns make this play-offs without Amare
1] That’s why he has not been playing hard recently if the goal is not to make the play-offs if the management wants to blow up the team mid-season.
2] Amare is not asking for Max. He’s asking for Gasol’s second fiddle 3-year package, not Kobe’s max package.
3] Fans trade mongering online is a lot more repressive than fans cheering at the game. Just imagine if you are Amare and the first thing u look online is news about him being shopped with fans piling on.
4] Amare is a resilient player in that he recovers quickly from injury faster than most players. That’s a plus, especially if he ends up playing better than before if we take the example of his recovery from microsurgery. If we traded him for Garnett 3 years past, well you can see just how well he’s doing at Boston now.
A Bulls trade just doesn't excite me
I’m excited by the prospect of Steph Curry or Anthony Randolph.
Didn't mean to post that
What i meant to say was that a Bulls Trade doesn’t really give any hope for our future. Trades with the 76ers/Warriors/Heat (whether they exist or are just rumors) at least make it feel like we are building towards something. Abulls trade would just wreak of the Suns management wanting to get something/anything for Amar’e before he walked.
Can we stop talking about trades to the Bulls or GS?
They are not going to happen. Period.
If they could happen, they would have happen last season or during the off-season.
And we would go straight to the lottery because the West won’t give our team time to make the transition to a new cornerstone mid-season.
????????????
the West won’t give our team time to make the transition to a new cornerstone mid-season.
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by Wil Cantrell on Jan 31, 2010 4:58 PM MST up reply actions
I mean the competition from the other teams in the West
Are we expecting our team to make an instant successful transition if we swop Amare for another player?
I have a trade idea!
If the Trade Machine says it works, then let’s do it!
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yzlao9u
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by iamtrevorpaxton on Jan 31, 2010 10:03 PM MST reply actions
LOVE IT!
Where do I need to sign for that to happen? Actually, what family member do I have to sell to make that happen?
by Lorenzo Franceschi Bicchierai on Feb 1, 2010 2:17 AM MST up reply actions
Lol the Thunder will eat that crap up.
I especially like the -19 win projection.
by BigBabyCollin on Feb 1, 2010 9:34 PM MST up reply actions
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