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Phoenix Suns Vs. Denver Nuggets Preview

In the pre-season finale, the Suns will test their Amar'e-less, newly re-constructed squad and front office for realz against the Nuggets at U.S. Airways Arena tonight.

Josh Childress is out for this one with an injured finger. Other than that, we should see the real rotation, and hopefully a semblance of the real Suns we will see in the 2010-11 season.

Or maybe not. We have been smacked over the face this Summer by everyone from me to Alvin Gentry to Steve Nash talking about establishing chemistry and acclimating the new guys, adjusting to this and that. The bar has been set low, and it is understandable. There is really no reason to set it high, or for anyone to publicize their feelings of optimism. The underdog role suited the Suns just fine last season. Of course we fans would like a nice Bob Sarver autographed purple and orange teddy bear for us to cuddle up with for some solace and piece of mind. Unfortunately it's not going to happen

I'm sure you have seen the early season schedule for the Suns, and it is absolutely motherscratching brutal:

  • Game 1 @PTL
  • Game 2 @UTAH
  • Game 3 LAKERS
  • Game 4 SPURS

WTF? Are you kidding me? Am I whining like a prepubescent little girl? YES.

And after a pseudo lull consisting of Memphis, Atlanta, and Sacramento, it's back to insanity:

@Lakers-Denver-@Miami-@Orlando-@Charlotte-@Houston-Chicago.

Sadistic.

Evidence that the boys in NBA front offices still hate the Suns for one reason or another. Or is it evidence that virtually every game will be a struggle for the Suns until they find their legs and solidify their rotation and chemistry, if that happens at all.

Apologies for the pessimistic and very un-journalistic preview, but I think our Suns need another month of camp:

  • For Frye to find his shooting touch
  • For J-Chill to get healthy
  • For Warrick to turn into a rebounder. 
  • For Hedo to turn into a rebounder.
  • For the Suns to hit Big Surf for some more team bonding.

    Nevermind, let's get it on!

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Star-divide

Game day Links:

Bob Young: Odds Say Phoenix Suns May Fizzle

Even Steve Nash concedes that the Suns might take months, not games, to hit their stride. "Chemistry is going to take time when you bring new pieces to the table - really sort of an abundance of them this year," he said Thursday. "In some ways it's a shame to make our way almost to the top of the mountain last year and four or five months later start at the bottom again.

SB Nation: Suns Finish Preseason With A Little Denver Nugget Fun, 7 P.M. AZT

Other big Nuggets news includes a fancy new neck tattoo for Chris Andersen, J.R. Smith being cleared by the Denver police in a choking incident (he allegedly choked a person, not a clutch shot), and Ty Lawson putting up better preseason numbers than Chauncey Billups.

Denver Stiffs

I am certain a preview will be posted soon.

Ridiculousness

According to a source familiar with the situation, [New York Knicks GM Donnie] Walsh has been motivated by information from Lee, a Knicks season-ticket-holder, that Anthony's first choice is far and away the Knicks. According to the source, Anthony has had several conversations in recent weeks with Lee, who has in turn informed Knicks brass of Anthony's feelings.

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Relevant to nothing here, but...

I just read that Sasha Vujabitch is now engaged to the lovely and talented Maria Sharapova. I’m irritated by this turn of events.

"One defends when his strength is inadequate, he attacks when it is abundant."
~Sun Tzu

by East Bay Ray on Oct 22, 2010 10:43 AM MST reply actions  

you've ruined the whole preview now, EBR

Why not tweet your sadness? This preview was once pure, now tainted by your jealousy.

Oh and isn’t always true that the girl you like ends up with a DB? Why does that always happen?

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by Wil Cantrell on Oct 22, 2010 10:45 AM MST up reply actions  

Because DBs get girls

I would think it obvious by now

by jc79 on Oct 22, 2010 11:03 AM MST up reply actions  

Check the website Hot Chicks with DBags

If you haven’t already seen it. I’d link to it but think it might be a blocked site at work. You can Google it. Hilarious pictures that prove this point.

"One defends when his strength is inadequate, he attacks when it is abundant."
~Sun Tzu

by East Bay Ray on Oct 22, 2010 11:09 AM MST up reply actions  

it's true my chick is hot and I'm a total Dbag

"I’ve been in the league 14 years and I don’t think I’ve been called for a carry yet. It’s news to me," "I’ve never heard anyone complain about me carrying the ball. The best coach in the league Gregg Popovich didn’t have a problem with it last week."

by 2NASHTY on Oct 22, 2010 11:44 AM MST up reply actions  

wait arent u a girl?

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by Wil Cantrell on Oct 22, 2010 3:01 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

uhm....

how bout no, but thanks for asking. and if i was I think I’d still be into hot chicks.

"I’ve been in the league 14 years and I don’t think I’ve been called for a carry yet. It’s news to me," "I’ve never heard anyone complain about me carrying the ball. The best coach in the league Gregg Popovich didn’t have a problem with it last week."

by 2NASHTY on Oct 22, 2010 4:34 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Great answer.

Auntie Em: Hate you, hate Kansas, taking the dog.
Dorothy

by haremoor on Oct 22, 2010 5:06 PM MST up reply actions  

haha

"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
Tweetin' at @JaxisZ

by Jaxis on Oct 22, 2010 6:31 PM MST up reply actions  

You know, I just don't understand it.

Sure, I can see why he may be appealing to her.
He’s a basketball player (usually an attractive quality), he has lots of money (if you’re into that sort of thing) and he’s not exactly ugly (I am by no means implying that I think he is attractive. I am merely stating that he isn’t ugly).
But at some point, don’t those things become not as important as personality?
Sasha Vujacic is just not a nice man. I mean, what kind of person has it out for Goran Dragic?
Besides, some of his own teammates don’t even like him. This news was very perplexing to me and I actually spent a lot of time thinking about it.
There has to be something about him that we as just fans don’t see. And who knows. Maybe Im being totally unfair and him and Maria Sharapova have a fabulous relationship.
But I still don’t get it.

"If the Suns can shock the world
Goran Dragic is the name."

by Dragic_is_Magic on Oct 22, 2010 3:02 PM MST up reply actions  

Maybe Sasha is a good listener.

That goes a long way.

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by Wil Cantrell on Oct 22, 2010 3:10 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah,

I guess…
But still. It’s not exactly high standards to want a man who does more than just listen, right? lol
Maybe im being totally mean about this.
But if I was in her position… well, I probably wouldn’t have dated him to begin with.
It just seems weird to me! Maybe im just putting way too much thought into this.
Yeah, that’s probably it.

"If the Suns can shock the world
Goran Dragic is the name."

by Dragic_is_Magic on Oct 22, 2010 3:17 PM MST up reply actions  

no your right it’s weird…mostly because he probably thinks he’s prettier then her

"I’ve been in the league 14 years and I don’t think I’ve been called for a carry yet. It’s news to me," "I’ve never heard anyone complain about me carrying the ball. The best coach in the league Gregg Popovich didn’t have a problem with it last week."

by 2NASHTY on Oct 22, 2010 4:37 PM MST up reply actions  

Tall, rich, famous

I have no idea why she might like him, either

by jc79 on Oct 22, 2010 3:59 PM MST up reply actions  

well, it could be...

that she’s just a terrible judge of character…or that she has very low standards. Either way I think it says alot more about her than him…

/there go my plans to marry Sharapova…

by Fritzy on Oct 22, 2010 4:06 PM MST up reply actions  

Maybe

She’s a horrible person herself.

by hcblankscreen on Oct 22, 2010 4:10 PM MST up reply actions  

That's true, I suppose.

"If the Suns can shock the world
Goran Dragic is the name."

by Dragic_is_Magic on Oct 22, 2010 4:17 PM MST up reply actions  

I'm just glad the pre-season is almost over

For the most part it has been an exercise in torture.

Gentry has juggled the rotation just enough to expose/verify most of our weaknesses without revealing his hand as to how he plans to deal with it.

Giving heavy minutes to players that will most likely (hopefully) never play a meaningful minute of basketball this season didn’t really do it for me. I thought that with the anticipated level of difficulty of the early schedule that it might have been more prudent to play the regular rotation more significant minutes.

As it stands, the Suns are running out of the gate with a pack of dobermans on their collective ass and I still don’t have much of a clue as to how they’re going to handle it.

by Jim Coughenour on Oct 22, 2010 10:57 AM MST reply actions  

Damn inconsiderate of Gentry to not let us in on his game plan.

Still, I think – I’m not sure – that we might try to score more points than the other team. Don’t tell anybody, though… it’s a secret.

Auntie Em: Hate you, hate Kansas, taking the dog.
Dorothy

by haremoor on Oct 22, 2010 11:49 AM MST up reply actions  

The best trick the devil ever played

was making people think he didn’t exist.

Are you insinuating that Gentry is sandbagging? It seems to me more like we have Steve Nash telling us that it is going to take a long time for the players on the team to mesh together and develop chemistry which I think will be exacerbated by the fact that they’ve sat on the bench through most of the pre-season while Gentry gave auditions for 12th man.

I ran out of happy pills. I got fired and my health insurance got cancelled so I can’t afford them anymore. Then my dog (which was lovingly named STAT) ate the rest of the last bottle I had and it died.

by Jim Coughenour on Oct 22, 2010 12:11 PM MST up reply actions  

The Prince of Darkness is a gentleman...

Nash, Gentry, Hill… nice polite guys… just sayin’

"True glory consists of doing what deserves to be written, and writing what deserves to be read".

by Pliny the Elder on Oct 22, 2010 12:18 PM MST up reply actions  

Sometimes I start to worry about this team...

And then I stop. Cause the crazyeyes of Grant Hill give me hope.

"We didn’t go for coffee and this kind of stuff."
-El Dragon on his relationship with Sasha Vujacic

by RMason on Oct 22, 2010 11:10 AM MST reply actions   1 recs

Recc'ed for 'crazyeyes'.

It is indeed one word.

Auntie Em: Hate you, hate Kansas, taking the dog.
Dorothy

by haremoor on Oct 22, 2010 11:44 AM MST up reply actions  

for me it's the ears

those big goofy ass ears

"I’ve been in the league 14 years and I don’t think I’ve been called for a carry yet. It’s news to me," "I’ve never heard anyone complain about me carrying the ball. The best coach in the league Gregg Popovich didn’t have a problem with it last week."

by 2NASHTY on Oct 22, 2010 11:48 AM MST up reply actions  

I think we will hover around .500 up until mid-season before the team finally gets the chemistry right and than we cruise right into the playoffs.

Don't trade Dudley!

by Beavis 25 on Oct 22, 2010 11:15 AM MST reply actions  

Who will get Childress's minutes?

"One defends when his strength is inadequate, he attacks when it is abundant."
~Sun Tzu

by East Bay Ray on Oct 22, 2010 11:18 AM MST reply actions  

Janning

DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMED

by jc79 on Oct 22, 2010 11:30 AM MST up reply actions  

+1

"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
Tweetin' at @JaxisZ

by Jaxis on Oct 22, 2010 4:18 PM MST up reply actions  

According to a source familiar with the situation, [New York Knicks GM Donnie] Walsh has been motivated by information from Lee, a Knicks season-ticket-holder, that Anthony’s first choice is far and away the Knicks. According to the source, Anthony has had several conversations in recent weeks with Lee, who has in turn informed Knicks brass of Anthony’s feelings.

I can see Mello and Amar’e together. Add Paul to that group next summer. The Knicks are going to be good. I just hope they don’t get a Championship before we do.

Don't trade Dudley!

by Beavis 25 on Oct 22, 2010 11:59 AM MST reply actions  

oh please

there’s telling the biggest Knicks fan in the history of Knicks fans that you’re favorite team is also his… and there’s taking the biggest money and the best opportunity. Those are not the same thing.

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by Alex Laugan on Oct 22, 2010 12:15 PM MST up reply actions  

also

Amare + Melo = 6-8 seed in East. Who is their leader? Who pulls them up by their bootstraps and keeps them on the same page?

Chris Paul can’t possibly get there till 2012, even if he wanted to. The Knicks have no available draft picks until late in the decade. They don’t even have enough talent outside Amare to trade for Melo, let alone Melo AND Paul.

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by Alex Laugan on Oct 22, 2010 12:18 PM MST up reply actions  

I think Randolf, Gallinari, Eddy Curry with a 1st round pick is a good deal. I’d take it if I was Denver. One thing I’ve learned about being a Suns fan is that you never wait to trade a player that doesn’t want to be on your team. It amazes me that we got better offers for Marion back in 07 than we ever did for Amar’e. Marion should’ve been traded during the summer for the sake of chemistry. Not held onto and traded for Shaq.

Don't trade Dudley!

by Beavis 25 on Oct 22, 2010 12:33 PM MST up reply actions  

sure that's a good deal for Denver

but what does that leave NY?

Melo, Amare and a bunch of fringe talent. I’m not a Felton fan in that offense, and I think D’Antoni will realize that Felton isn’t the answer. Lots of mixing and matching and little to no money or draft picks to improve further.

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by Alex Laugan on Oct 22, 2010 12:55 PM MST up reply actions  

Amare + Melo =

3-4 seed in the East, depending on who they give up to get Melo.

"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
Tweetin' at @JaxisZ

by Jaxis on Oct 22, 2010 4:18 PM MST up reply actions  

no way

ahead of who? Miami, Orlando, Boston, Atlanta, Chicago?

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by Alex Laugan on Oct 22, 2010 5:00 PM MST up reply actions  

Miami
Orlando
Boston
New York
Chicago
Atlanta
Milwaukee
Charlotte
I said depending on who they give up, if it’s just Randolph, a pick and Curry then, Knicks still have a pretty good team, they could go with a small ball lineup like this…
C – Amare
PF – Gallinari
SF – Melo
SG- Buike
PG – Felton

"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
Tweetin' at @JaxisZ

by Jaxis on Oct 22, 2010 6:35 PM MST up reply actions  

I agree, about MIA, ORL, and BOS being better

and yes, CHI and ATL can be argued, but Atlanta doesn’t have good management, I have have no clue about their chemistry, plus, Boozer is out for Chicago, and who is their starting SG?

"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
Tweetin' at @JaxisZ

by Jaxis on Oct 22, 2010 8:28 PM MST up reply actions  

Wouldn't this count as tampering??

Spike is as close to the Knicks organization as anyone not directly employed by them.. What would people think if Steve Nash went & talked to Jack Nicholson about wanting to play for the Lakers?

"True glory consists of doing what deserves to be written, and writing what deserves to be read".

by Pliny the Elder on Oct 22, 2010 12:20 PM MST up reply actions  

yes, but the league is too busy worrying about cutting player’s salaries.

Don't trade Dudley!

by Beavis 25 on Oct 22, 2010 7:43 PM MST up reply actions  

Better to play all those teams at the start of the season...

when they’re all a little disorganized, and maybe steal a game or two, rather than face those teams when they’re 100%, and we’re not.

"True glory consists of doing what deserves to be written, and writing what deserves to be read".

by Pliny the Elder on Oct 22, 2010 12:23 PM MST reply actions  

I actually think that's very possible

Kobe will be on light minutes and Bynum is out. Depends on whether the Suns play really hard a night after facing Utah.

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by Alex Laugan on Oct 22, 2010 12:56 PM MST up reply actions  

when I did a schedule prediction in August

I thought the Suns would be 8-6 after 14 games. Now maybe I’d say 6-8 or 7-7.

It all depends on the first few games – I expected that 2 tough roadies + 2 tough homies + 1 easier homie would end up 3-2.

Pride plays a big part in stopping the bleeding, so I don’t see the Suns laying 5 eggs here, or even 4. Portland has a healthy Roy, but otherwise is same as the playoffs. Lakers are without Bynum and limited on Kobe. Utah is a tough place to win, but the Suns didn’t show them anything in preseason for a reason. Utah just might take the Suns too lightly.

If they survive the first 5 games at 3-2 or 2-3, then I’m feeling good.

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by Alex Laugan on Oct 22, 2010 12:27 PM MST reply actions  

2 tough homies.

Are you talking about Steve and Grant?

Peyton Manning= Better.

by JesusNinja13 on Oct 22, 2010 1:43 PM MST up reply actions  

I suppose the easier homie would have

to be Frye… or Clark

Peyton Manning= Better.

by JesusNinja13 on Oct 22, 2010 1:43 PM MST up reply actions  

I just heard that Vegas

set the Suns over/under for the season at 41-1/2 wins.

That seems pessimistically low (even to me).

I’m assuming that Bright Side betters are taking the over and running to the sportsbook?

by Jim Coughenour on Oct 22, 2010 12:40 PM MST reply actions  

I'll be disappointed if they don't win at least 45

Not totally surprised, but disappointed.

"One defends when his strength is inadequate, he attacks when it is abundant."
~Sun Tzu

by East Bay Ray on Oct 22, 2010 12:43 PM MST up reply actions  

So this team is projected to do worse than the Porter/Shaq team?
Not gonna happen. I’ll take that action.

"We didn’t go for coffee and this kind of stuff."
-El Dragon on his relationship with Sasha Vujacic

by RMason on Oct 22, 2010 1:23 PM MST up reply actions  

I will not mourn until there's something to mourn.

Why would you choose to be unhappy when we are tied for first? I’ve said it before, every day I’m happy, I win. Maybe you’re right, maybe we won’t win 41 games. If that’s the case, I’ll be unhappy, right along with you. But what if we win 60? You will have wasted two, three, five, 8 or more weeks being sure that we’ll suck, and being unhappy. At the end of the season, we’ll probably both be happy or both unhappy – why waste the time during the great unknown being pessimistic?
   I will win today. Tomorrow will take care of itself.

Auntie Em: Hate you, hate Kansas, taking the dog.
Dorothy

by haremoor on Oct 22, 2010 5:19 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Im going to the game tonight!

Im so excited to see the team live for the first time this year. Hopefully, since they will be playing the usual rotation, we can get another win. Not long now before the season starts… :)

"If the Suns can shock the world
Goran Dragic is the name."

by Dragic_is_Magic on Oct 22, 2010 3:04 PM MST reply actions  

awsome

I’ll have a pickle an Dr Pep in your tribute

"I’ve been in the league 14 years and I don’t think I’ve been called for a carry yet. It’s news to me," "I’ve never heard anyone complain about me carrying the ball. The best coach in the league Gregg Popovich didn’t have a problem with it last week."

by 2NASHTY on Oct 22, 2010 4:40 PM MST up reply actions  

Haha Thanks!

"If the Suns can shock the world
Goran Dragic is the name."

by Dragic_is_Magic on Oct 23, 2010 12:34 AM MST up reply actions  

Oh, and

I would love a purple and orange teddy bear to put me at ease! I love teddy bears! :)
Too bad it’s not going to happen. :/

"If the Suns can shock the world
Goran Dragic is the name."

by Dragic_is_Magic on Oct 22, 2010 3:06 PM MST reply actions  

well you could head to "Build a Bear"

But the Sarver signature may be a smidge more difficult to attain.

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by Wil Cantrell on Oct 22, 2010 3:08 PM MST up reply actions  

Oh im not fussed about the signature. Plus, Build a Bear is a ripoff and the bears are not very cuddly.

Maybe I can just find a little mini Suns jersey and put it on my Bear! (His name is Bear.)

"If the Suns can shock the world
Goran Dragic is the name."

by Dragic_is_Magic on Oct 22, 2010 3:19 PM MST up reply actions  

are you like 12?

I think we all have to be 18 on this thread.

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by Wil Cantrell on Oct 22, 2010 3:27 PM MST up reply actions  

Tell that to Scott Howard

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Oct 22, 2010 3:36 PM MST up reply actions  

I think that it is perfectly reasonable for a 17 year old to have a teddy bear!

I have had him since I was little.

"If the Suns can shock the world
Goran Dragic is the name."

by Dragic_is_Magic on Oct 22, 2010 4:18 PM MST up reply actions  

It's only weird to Wil

Because he himself is a big cuddly teddy bear.

"We didn’t go for coffee and this kind of stuff."
-El Dragon on his relationship with Sasha Vujacic

by RMason on Oct 22, 2010 4:57 PM MST up reply actions  

I'm 53, and I still have my childhood teddy bear - with one eye. I think I ate the other one.

Of course, I gave it to my 4 year old – he outgrew it much more quickly than I did.

Auntie Em: Hate you, hate Kansas, taking the dog.
Dorothy

by haremoor on Oct 22, 2010 5:22 PM MST up reply actions  

Yo YO!

I will be at the game tonight sporting a sweet Gorilla mask! Look for me!

I’m a Gorilla Groupie! Whateva that means…

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Oct 22, 2010 3:37 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

Sweet!

Don't trade Dudley!

by Beavis 25 on Oct 22, 2010 7:46 PM MST up reply actions  

Oh, Wil.

Apologies for the pessimistic and very un-journalistic preview.

I don’t mind the “un-journalistic”… And apology accepted on the pessimism. I don’t agree with the assertion that there is no reason to broadcast optimism. I believe you foster your outcomes with your attitude, as hippy/new age as it sounds (sorry), so I will continue to pull for the BRIGHT SIDE and hope for the best. Until the season actually gets under way, I’d like to see ALL optimism. Please?

"This [basketball] is the second most exciting indoor sport, and the other one shouldn't have spectators."

by Basketball GF on Oct 22, 2010 4:03 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

I dont know why, but seeing turk smile like that makes me wanna just punch him right n the face.

"Remember this sh*t at christmas!"-Terry Crews, The Expendables

by Bkj on Oct 22, 2010 4:12 PM MST reply actions  

That's weird.

I just thought he looked like Edward Norton in that picture.

"We didn’t go for coffee and this kind of stuff."
-El Dragon on his relationship with Sasha Vujacic

by RMason on Oct 22, 2010 4:57 PM MST up reply actions  

Wow. I must say, I don't see Edward Norton in that picture at all.

Maybe that’s cause for some reason, I have always had a celebrity crush on Edward Norton and don’t find Turkoglu attractive in the slightest, lol.

"If the Suns can shock the world
Goran Dragic is the name."

by Dragic_is_Magic on Oct 23, 2010 12:32 AM MST up reply actions  

Makes me think he's happy.

Happy Turk=productive Turk.

Auntie Em: Hate you, hate Kansas, taking the dog.
Dorothy

by haremoor on Oct 22, 2010 5:23 PM MST up reply actions  

ball

"I’ve been in the league 14 years and I don’t think I’ve been called for a carry yet. It’s news to me," "I’ve never heard anyone complain about me carrying the ball. The best coach in the league Gregg Popovich didn’t have a problem with it last week."

by 2NASHTY on Oct 22, 2010 5:24 PM MST up reply actions  

unfortunately no

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Oct 22, 2010 4:42 PM MST up reply actions  

yeah but the bright side is that it's the last one that won't be televised...

From here on out – everything on TV and in HD baby!

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Oct 22, 2010 5:00 PM MST up reply actions  

@Lakers-Denver-@Miami-@Orlando-@Charlotte-@Houston-Chicago.

Riding shotgun on the Earl Clark carpool, the Chilly Bandwagon was packed and the Hedo Apologists is invitation only.

by Larfleeze on Oct 22, 2010 6:33 PM MST reply actions  

anyone know

why warrick started over turkoglu? just experimenting?

by abohmer11 on Oct 22, 2010 7:20 PM MST reply actions  

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