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Game Preview: Phoenix Suns At Portland Trailblazers, 7PM PST

Finally.

Finally, it will actually mean something if the Suns get blown out. Or, we can breathe a little easier if the Suns fight and claw to a win.

I'm pretty sure tonight's game against Portland is going to be ugly. Portland will be geeked up and Brandon Roy will try hard to erase the disappointment of his injury during last year's playoffs - a decisive series loss in 6 games to the Suns. Look for Portland to try to bully the Suns and win the rebound battle by at least 10. They are bigger, stronger and thicker.

Plus, the Suns are playing tentative - a recipe for disaster in a small team. The Suns best chance to win tonight is to BE...AGGRESSIVE! BE-BE...AGGRESSIVE! If the Suns play hard and aggressive throughout the game, then they can stay in this thing and maybe even pull out a win. But that has to come from the whole team - not just one guy. Everyone needs to step up. 

Follow the jump for more on the game and links to other game previews.

Update: Looks like Childress is playing tonight

Star-divide

 

This might be an understatement, but this Suns team has so far looked very different than the one in last year's playoffs series against Portland.

But that's not all bad.

For one thing, the Suns have Robin Lopez in the middle this year. Remember last year's starting center in the playoffs? Jarron Collins. Yes folks - recall with fondness that we beat Portland like a drum with Jarron freaking Collins at center.

For another, the Suns will have a healthy Steve Nash. In the series clincher - game 6 at Portland - Nash was so banged up that he had 7 turnovers in the first quarter alone. Remember that? Goran Dragic played a great game though, and the rest of the team picked up the slack.

For a third, Portland won't be quite sure how to guard the Suns, since the Suns don't know exactly where their offense is coming from either. Both teams can agree on one thing: Jason Richardson. He was the scoring star of that series and figures to be the Suns' scoring star this year as well. But beyond that, who knows?

If there's any value to preseason, it's that the Suns didn't give away any secrets. No one in the NBA knows that the Suns will do this season, least of all the Suns themselves.

Will Hedo find his shooting stroke and aggression? The Suns need Hedo to be a threat, and the only way he can do that is by getting aggressive. Go down swinging and playmaking and jiving, Hedo. Get that swagger! Get Portland's front line back on their heels, into a bit of foul trouble. Initiate some pick-n-roll with Lopez. Hit some damn shots!

Speaking of shots...

Will the team make any 3-pointers? I couldn't believe how many open 3s the Suns missed in preseason. Seems like all the best 3-pt shooters on the team spent the summer working on their midrange game. J-Rich is pump-faking and driving to the hoop. Dudley worked on the 1-2 dribble pullup, after pump-faking off the 3-pt line. Uh, that's great and all but don't forget about taking and making the 3s when they're open, okay? 

Speaking of 3-point shooters...

And then there's Channing Frye. All summer, we've talked about Frye adding more big-man skills to his game. Post-ups, drives to the basket, midrange. That's great and all, but you can't keep missing your 3s all season, buddy. That's your bread and butter. That's what you were paid to do: spread the defense, pull the big man out of the paint and force him to play in space, and then make the open shots! All the rest is jelly.

Will Robin score 20 points by halftime? He's a wildcard. When he's on and feeling good, he can light it up when the defense isn't planning on it. Rolling, stopping and popping, putbacks. The next step in his maturation is countering a defense that's prepared for him. But until then, until the league knows what he can do, Robin should put up some nice numbers. And then there's his defense. He can defend the paint like no one else on the team. Portland could be very surprised by his improvements.

Will Nash and Hill carry this team to some wins, despite shaky team performance? We don't know what will happen this year in regards to those two. Hill is "at peace" and Nash is not exactly optimistic about the season. It's quite possible the Suns lose a lot of early-season games if Nash and Hill decline with father time. Based on preseason, they don't look spry. Yet hopefully they were just saving themselves for the real season.

Will the Suns play more aggressive/pesky on defense? For the past couple of years, the Suns have played a very reactionary, passive defense. They've shaded the paint and dared teams to win on jump shots. They were nearly last in the league in steals. This year's team might be more aggressive - they are certainly talking in those terms. WIll that start tonight, or wait until Childress is 100% again?

 

Some of these questions will be answered by bedtime, though the answers could keep changing on a game-by-game basis.

The biggest task is learning to trust each other, which will foster aggressive instinctual play. Until then, we'll see a too-tentative team wandering around unsure what they are doing.

There is one thing we know for sure: tonight's Suns will look little like the team that played Portland last year.

Is that a good thing? Later in the season, maybe yes. But for now, likely not.

If the Suns win, it will be thanks to scrappy, hard-working play.

 

Oh yeah, the opponent...

I should probably write something about Portland to get you ready to watch them.

Most prognosticators are once again expecting Portland to earn home court advantage in the playoffs, meaning a top-4 seed in the West. Yawn. Same prediction as the last 2 years since they first hit the playoffs with this core. They've stockpiled more talent along the way, yet can't stay and healthy and boast the worst offensive scheme in the history of NBA basketball.

(By the way, I'm curious how the Blazer fans will react to Turkoglu. Are they still holding a grudge against him for a 2-day tete-a-tete two years ago? Or have they moved on to something more current? Personally, I will bust out laughing if I hear boos when he touches the ball like they did when he visited as a Raptor last year. Talk about an inability to let go...ok, back to regularly scheduled programming.)

Their starting lineup is the same as last year. Brandon Roy is healthy, and Nic Batum is pretty much healthy (back spasms, I heard). Miller, Camby and Aldridge round it out. No surprises there.

On the bench, they dropped Jerryd Bayless, Martell Webster and Juwan Howard, as well as local boy Jeff Pendergraph, who suffered a knee injury in preseason and was subsequently waived. Nothing like rehabbing on your own, right?

They added Wesley Matthews (who went from undrafted free agent to Utah's starting lineup to $34 mill in one year!), kept Rudy Fernandez and Dante Cunningham, and brought in a couple draft picks (including Luke Babbitt) and fringees who shouldn't get a lot of playing time unless someone gets hurt.

Greg Oden and Joel Przybilla are still out from last year's injuries with no real timeline for either's return. Oden played a little 5-on-5 yesterday and didn't displace anything, so that's good news.

 

Some other points of view...

Blazersedge - Game Preview

Dave at BEdge spent more time scouting the Suns and devising a game plan than I did in reverse. In fact, most of this preview talks about the Suns. It's a very good read.  

Oregon Live Suns/Blazers PreviewThe Blazers preseason wasn't all rosy and sweet either. This preview talks about 2 teams trying to find their groove. 

 

AZCentral - Turkoglu Is The Key To The Season

Not sure I agree with this wholeheartedly. Certainly, Gentry needs to find out what Hedo can provide the Suns this season on a predictable basis. Based on that knowledge, then Gentry needs to give him commensurate playing time.

So I don't agree that the only way the Suns succeed is with Hedo playing well. As long as Gentry gives him the minutes he DESERVES, then all will be fine. They are even talking about Hedo on the second team already. This is fine, as long as Warrick holds his own in the starting lineup.

Jarron Collins Makes The Clippers 15-Man Roster

The man who led the Suns to a playoff pasting of the Blazers has officially hooked on to another NBA team. And some of you thought he was washed up. Tisk tisk...

 

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he’s a MONSTER! A STONE KOLD KILLA

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by Seth Pollack on Oct 26, 2010 11:08 AM MST up reply actions  

I say he gets bullied by goran

"I feel younger almost every year. I feel like I'm getting better every year. I feel like the season gets easier for me the last two years." Steve Nash

by 2NASHTY on Oct 26, 2010 11:20 AM MST up reply actions  

I think JP is able to rehab with the Blazers staff.
Jeff Pendergraph, who suffered a knee injury in preseason and was subsequently waived. Nothing like rehabbing on your own, right?

Jeff Pendergraph will be able to rehab with the Blazer trainers/doctors. It’s part of the contract. He just has to use the facilities when the team isn’t practicing. That’s what I heard on a talk show.
Correct this if it is wrong!!!

by Natsthecat on Oct 26, 2010 11:41 AM MST up reply actions  

ok good

then if he’s still under contract and able to train with the team, what’s the point of waiving him? I don’t get it.

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by Alex Laugan on Oct 26, 2010 11:46 AM MST up reply actions  

then why did Cho call it

“a tough business decision” if it didn’t save the Blazers any money?

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by Alex Laugan on Oct 26, 2010 12:06 PM MST up reply actions  

I think the standard contracts

basically give the player access to medical and training support for an injury suffered while under contract even after they are cut.

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by Seth Pollack on Oct 26, 2010 1:30 PM MST up reply actions  

Because we loved Jeff

He was a fan favorite and an awesome personality. If we had had a spot to spare he probably wouldn’t have been cut even though he would be rehabbing until the end of his contract.

Cho had to choose between Jeff’s awesomeness and ability to help the connection between us crazy fans and team and the need to make sure roles were layed out clearly and we had what we needed as far as depth for the season.

In this case, the choice to let Jeff go and keep Mills to possibly groom him as a PG that can play in our rotation in the future.

by poorwebguy on Oct 26, 2010 1:33 PM MST up reply actions  

you didn't have to actually type hedo, we're all on the same page

"I feel younger almost every year. I feel like I'm getting better every year. I feel like the season gets easier for me the last two years." Steve Nash

by 2NASHTY on Oct 26, 2010 11:28 AM MST up reply actions  

nice preview, Dave

Nervous about Chill still. I doubt he will play or be effective with the finger fracture. Suns are much better with him on the court.

Agreed Lopez is a major factor. Let’s hit some FT’s Robin.

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by Wil Cantrell on Oct 26, 2010 11:32 AM MST up reply actions  

agreed

I don’t want Childress to play while injured either. Let it heal, Childress. Playing while injured on a very deep team is either desperate or foolish.

by 8472species on Oct 26, 2010 1:56 PM MST up reply actions  

Especially when it’s not the playoffs or even the stretch run of the season .

by 8472species on Oct 26, 2010 1:56 PM MST up reply actions  

Give J-Rich 30-some minutes and Goran a few SG minutes.

Just let Chilly play 10-ish minutes to see what he can do and so he can gel a bit more. Hopefully he won’t injure the finger further.

Extend Jared Dudley!

by Omaha Sun on Oct 26, 2010 4:28 PM MST up reply actions  

If Aaron Nelson says it’s good, fine; but I wonder why anyone should play with a broken finger.

by 8472species on Oct 26, 2010 5:04 PM MST up reply actions  

hahaha!

"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"

by PanamaSun on Oct 26, 2010 12:06 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeeeeeehaw!

studies can wait till June!

by Lompe on Oct 26, 2010 11:31 AM MST reply actions  

Thank god for free League Pass preview.

And it’s about time. I aged 5 years waiting for the regular season to start. These last 4 months have been agonizing, to say the least. Time to be hopelessly optimistic for tonight.

If they lose tonight, they won’t make the playoffs. How’s that for optimism?

Formerly known as NashMV3 of BSotS, if anyone even remembers.

Nash is my mancrush. But Dragic is the 2nd coming of Manu Ginobili, which makes him just as tasty.

by EricSun89 on Oct 26, 2010 11:44 AM MST reply actions  

The End is NEAR!

Now where’d I put my cardboard sign…

by jc79 on Oct 26, 2010 2:59 PM MST up reply actions  

so, we can finally watch some games on TV?

Don't trade Dudley!

by Beavis 25 on Oct 26, 2010 11:53 AM MST reply actions  

The preseason sucked so much that even

the games that were on League Pass didn’t have any broadcasting. It was just the camera and the voice of that guy that calls the name of the players when they hit shots or foul.

The Suns are tough!

by Diego Queiroz on Oct 26, 2010 12:09 PM MST up reply actions  

they have this new

cheap system call “Tri-cast” that basically is an over grown web cam using the in-house cameras and streaming them. It’s a step up from uStream – but only barely.

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by Seth Pollack on Oct 26, 2010 1:32 PM MST up reply actions  

Childress on Blazers' shooting guards

If Fernandez becomes a factor or Roy causes the Suns too much damage, can we expect Josh Childress’s defensive skills to contain them?

by 8472species on Oct 26, 2010 12:06 PM MST reply actions  

as long as he doesn't

hit them with his broken finger and pass out from the pain

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by Alex Laugan on Oct 26, 2010 12:07 PM MST up reply actions  

I forgot. Sorry. Too bad. Wasn’t he supposed to have a splint? Not that I’d expect him to play well with one.

by 8472species on Oct 26, 2010 12:09 PM MST up reply actions  

Oh, look at that

Some guy named Mark Hawkins from Yahoo picked us to go 50-32 this season. Seth, Mark, Will, Alex: have any of you changed name and started writting for Yahoo Sports?

The Suns are tough!

by Diego Queiroz on Oct 26, 2010 12:08 PM MST reply actions  

I wouldn’t call him pessismistic either, though.
He’s Scottstimistic.
Definition: A bone-dry outlook with a helping of apathy that is commonly expressed with one-liners.

"We didn’t go for coffee and this kind of stuff."
-El Dragon on his relationship with Sasha Vujacic

by RMason on Oct 26, 2010 12:20 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

the wolfmans got nards

"I feel younger almost every year. I feel like I'm getting better every year. I feel like the season gets easier for me the last two years." Steve Nash

by 2NASHTY on Oct 26, 2010 12:50 PM MST up reply actions  

Don't forget his cynicism encrusted heart of gold.

Auntie Em: Hate you, hate Kansas, taking the dog.
Dorothy

by haremoor on Oct 26, 2010 5:55 PM MST up reply actions  

anyone in tucson

what channel is the game on? i checked the listings on KTTU and it’s not there. HELP

If at first you don't succeed, try left field.

by dbacks25 on Oct 26, 2010 12:46 PM MST reply actions  

fox sports arizona

"I feel younger almost every year. I feel like I'm getting better every year. I feel like the season gets easier for me the last two years." Steve Nash

by 2NASHTY on Oct 26, 2010 12:46 PM MST up reply actions  

it's not FSA

the suns.com says its my45, its seems like i don’t have it in with my provider. COX.

If at first you don't succeed, try left field.

by dbacks25 on Oct 26, 2010 12:52 PM MST up reply actions  

cox has my45 and fsnaz i

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by RGreyslak on Oct 26, 2010 2:09 PM MST up reply actions  

yes in phx, sorry

http://www.atdhe.net has everything for free, not the best picture but definitely watchable

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by RGreyslak on Oct 26, 2010 3:12 PM MST up reply actions  

It's stupid

not to have games broadcast in tucson

If at first you don't succeed, try left field.

by dbacks25 on Oct 26, 2010 3:21 PM MST up reply actions  

totally pissed me off last year

"I feel younger almost every year. I feel like I'm getting better every year. I feel like the season gets easier for me the last two years." Steve Nash

by 2NASHTY on Oct 26, 2010 3:26 PM MST up reply actions  

5 years of college there made me a sad panda

I survived off atdhe

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Oct 26, 2010 5:03 PM MST up reply actions  

I'm a supporter of ATDHE

But don’t understand why here we can post that link and on the NFL blogs it’s a bannable offense. I know it’s illegal either way, but why the hardcore hate from the NFL?

by BravePhin on Oct 26, 2010 3:46 PM MST up reply actions  

you won’t be able to get all the games but if you get league pass online you can choose like 8 teams and stream them.

"I feel younger almost every year. I feel like I'm getting better every year. I feel like the season gets easier for me the last two years." Steve Nash

by 2NASHTY on Oct 26, 2010 12:49 PM MST up reply actions  

do i get blackout for being in Tucson?

If at first you don't succeed, try left field.

by dbacks25 on Oct 26, 2010 12:53 PM MST up reply actions  

nope

i did it last year

"I feel younger almost every year. I feel like I'm getting better every year. I feel like the season gets easier for me the last two years." Steve Nash

by 2NASHTY on Oct 26, 2010 12:53 PM MST up reply actions  

Chilly is playing?

Normally I would be concerned, but if Aaron Nelson gave the go-ahead then it’s ok with me. If that guy told me to shit in my own hat, I wouldn’t think twice.

"We didn’t go for coffee and this kind of stuff."
-El Dragon on his relationship with Sasha Vujacic

by RMason on Oct 26, 2010 12:51 PM MST reply actions  

I'll pass on that

I would dump in one of your hats, though.

"One defends when his strength is inadequate, he attacks when it is abundant."
~Sun Tzu

by East Bay Ray on Oct 26, 2010 1:16 PM MST up reply actions  

lol

as in spit my diet coke on my keyboard, lol

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by Seth Pollack on Oct 26, 2010 1:34 PM MST up reply actions  

Not sure how I should approach this game

Should I get drunk during the Celtics – Heat to numb the pain of a (possible) blowout? Or after the (possible) blowout to drown my sorrows and hopefully avoid any alcohol fueled remote control destruction?

I’m extremely nervous about this game.

by hcblankscreen on Oct 26, 2010 12:56 PM MST reply actions  

do both

if you’re extremely nervous about game 1 of 82 (hopefully 1 of 100+)

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by Alex Laugan on Oct 26, 2010 1:01 PM MST up reply actions  

Dude getting drunk during games is exhausting

I think I was drunk during every game for our entire 2010 playoff run. Used to pass out with the keyboard on my lap while writing the Playoff Nightcap. Good times. But can’t keep that pace up through 82.

RIP Seasons of Discontent

by Scott Howard on Oct 26, 2010 3:03 PM MST up reply actions  

All we need you do to is keep it up long enough...

For them to throw you in rehab…

STAT may be gone but the Suns will rise....!

by Daryl Ray on Oct 26, 2010 3:16 PM MST up reply actions  

I stay sober now

I just got too wound up and sick to my stomach.
Especially on a weeknight, because you need to drink enough to forget it all but still have to get up for work (maybe).

Mmmmm ... Guinness

by JSun on Oct 26, 2010 3:04 PM MST up reply actions  

NBA league pass is free through 11/2

guess i will be able to watch the game

If at first you don't succeed, try left field.

by dbacks25 on Oct 26, 2010 1:07 PM MST reply actions  

score

"I feel younger almost every year. I feel like I'm getting better every year. I feel like the season gets easier for me the last two years." Steve Nash

by 2NASHTY on Oct 26, 2010 1:23 PM MST up reply actions  

link


Just click on “try for free.”
You have to create an NBA All Access account if you don’t already have one (free), and you get to keep the league pass til November 2nd.

Peyton Manning= Better.

by JesusNinja13 on Oct 26, 2010 4:39 PM MST up reply actions  

Sweet!

Thanks. I remember now that I tried this last year but it wouldn’t work on my computer. I now have a better computer.

Extend Jared Dudley!

by Omaha Sun on Oct 26, 2010 4:55 PM MST up reply actions  

Matchups

A healthy Roy will create some issues for PHX. In the playoffs, Nash was switched to Rudy on D, which meant that all he had to do was stick his arms up in the air from time to time. They won’t have that luxury with Roy in the lineup, so Nash will have to defend Miller, who is a very physical PG. I’m guessing that Hill will be on Roy to start, and we’ll see a lot of Dudley tonight.

Up front, how will they play Aldridge? Will they double and leave the perimeter open? This will give us a good idea of how effective Hedo can be defending the opposing PFs. When Aldridge has his big boy pants on, he can be a nightmare to cover. This might be a great game to employ the girly zone.

"We didn’t go for coffee and this kind of stuff."
-El Dragon on his relationship with Sasha Vujacic

by RMason on Oct 26, 2010 1:34 PM MST reply actions  

Since Aldridge is more of an offensive threat than Marcus Camby, how about putting Lopez on him?

by 8472species on Oct 26, 2010 1:58 PM MST up reply actions  

I thought of that too.

This being the season opener, I think Hedo needs to show what he can do and not be bailed out. Of course if he needs to be bailed out, one could do a lot worse than Lopez. Likely, we’ll see a lot of traps and double teams. No one is better at sneaking over from the weak side than Dudley.

"We didn’t go for coffee and this kind of stuff."
-El Dragon on his relationship with Sasha Vujacic

by RMason on Oct 26, 2010 2:03 PM MST up reply actions  

And could Dudley guard Aldridge? I know he’s smaller, but could his intelligence and defensive skill make up for it?

by 8472species on Oct 26, 2010 2:07 PM MST up reply actions  

Aldridge is very big

and all about jump shots. Dudley can’t really guard that. He is 4 inches shorter and has a 1/2-inch vertical.

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by Alex Laugan on Oct 26, 2010 2:20 PM MST up reply actions  

i thought he was up to 3/4 inch vert this year

"I feel younger almost every year. I feel like I'm getting better every year. I feel like the season gets easier for me the last two years." Steve Nash

by 2NASHTY on Oct 26, 2010 2:37 PM MST up reply actions  

Dudley

says the over / under this season for in-game dunks is 10

He did have one in the Saturday open practice so he’s off to a good start (not that it counted for his season total but still)

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by Seth Pollack on Oct 26, 2010 3:02 PM MST up reply actions  

Is name finally up for the dunk contest...?

I wonder if you lower the rim to 9 feet, would he be considered one of the greatest when he wins…?

STAT may be gone but the Suns will rise....!

by Daryl Ray on Oct 26, 2010 3:15 PM MST up reply actions  

If only Earl could be relied upon to crack the rotation...

He has the perfect size and skill set to guard Aldridge. In fact, I think many of you may have heard me compare Earl to Lamarcus before…That is the type of player I envisioned Earl becoming if he could ever live up to his potential.

Oh well, maybe he will finally pull it together this year ( yes, I am an optimist).

by 7footer on Oct 26, 2010 3:25 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

we're all hoping with you

"I feel younger almost every year. I feel like I'm getting better every year. I feel like the season gets easier for me the last two years." Steve Nash

by 2NASHTY on Oct 26, 2010 3:27 PM MST up reply actions  

no kidding

has the perfect size and skillset for a lot of things, including defending tall, fast perimeter-ish players. He just doesn’t have “it” to use it correctly yet.

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by Alex Laugan on Oct 26, 2010 3:46 PM MST up reply actions  

:) Well, you’re the one who says Clark once guarded LeBron James successfully…

by 8472species on Oct 26, 2010 3:53 PM MST up reply actions  

You still don't believe me do you?

LOL…I swear, it happened! Surely someone else remembers that game. Can anyone else give me an Amen or a Hallelujah up in this piece?

by 7footer on Oct 26, 2010 5:25 PM MST up reply actions  

Amen. And Hallelujah.

Auntie Em: Hate you, hate Kansas, taking the dog.
Dorothy

by haremoor on Oct 26, 2010 6:00 PM MST up reply actions  

Any word on Lasme? If the Suns didn’t like him, I wonder why not.

by 8472species on Oct 26, 2010 1:59 PM MST reply actions  

I wonder what it is like...

To start a season with the same starting linup you had the previous year? Portland has to be psyched.

TO THE NBA - " Yeah, you have created a rift within me ; Now there have been ; several complications ; that have left me feeling nothing ; I might say, you were ; wrong to take it from me ; Left me feeling nothing " - Disturbed, "Numb"

by antiw0rm on Oct 26, 2010 2:27 PM MST reply actions  

and that starting lineup

has won the same number of playoffs series as the Suns starting lineup

(just sayin’)

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by Alex Laugan on Oct 26, 2010 2:29 PM MST up reply actions  

But regardless...

It must be cool to have a decent lineup and come back with it to try again. I have a hard time remember when we had that.

TO THE NBA - " Yeah, you have created a rift within me ; Now there have been ; several complications ; that have left me feeling nothing ; I might say, you were ; wrong to take it from me ; Left me feeling nothing " - Disturbed, "Numb"

by antiw0rm on Oct 26, 2010 3:26 PM MST up reply actions  

Do you think...

they have a Lakers Wiki where we can look this up?

TO THE NBA - " Yeah, you have created a rift within me ; Now there have been ; several complications ; that have left me feeling nothing ; I might say, you were ; wrong to take it from me ; Left me feeling nothing " - Disturbed, "Numb"

by antiw0rm on Oct 26, 2010 3:41 PM MST up reply actions  

It is awesome

Where we see to have trouble is keeping that lineup in tact through the season. We used 20 different starting lineups last season and our bench players + starters leftovers for the playoffs.

by poorwebguy on Oct 26, 2010 2:52 PM MST up reply actions  

Lasme is too small

Lasme is simply too small—He is the size of Josh Childress!! We need to try to get Earl Barron or Steve Hill. From what I have heard, Steve Hill might be an even better fit than Earl Barron.

Steve Hill is 7 Ft., 245 lb., and is a mobile defender of bigger PFs, with some low post offense. He has shown improvement each year, and was recently waived by the TrailBlazers.

His ceiling may not be as high as Dirk’s was, but think what he could do for us if he wanted to learn from Nash!!

Steve Hill might be the perfect complement to Frye, and would help us switch Hedo off the Big PFs.

I also think that a Siler / Lopez combonation would be really tough to beat. Nash, Dragic, and Hedo just feed the ball to Siler in the low post, and the result is baskets and drawn fouls.

by Eagle Sun on Oct 26, 2010 2:29 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

Does this work?

"One defends when his strength is inadequate, he attacks when it is abundant."
~Sun Tzu

by East Bay Ray on Oct 26, 2010 2:40 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

The Blazers picked Oberto over Steven Hill

I think that’s saying something….now, maybe it’s just saying they don’t like tall hillbillies but it is saying something

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by Seth Pollack on Oct 26, 2010 3:04 PM MST up reply actions  

Twin Towers

RIP Seasons of Discontent

by Scott Howard on Oct 26, 2010 3:20 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Why not just contact the FO and tell them that we want a bigger and better Lou in addition to Siler?

Rather than whine about the departure of Amare Want-to-go-away, and the loss of Lou (who by the way broke his finger and is OUT INDEFINITELY), why not call the Suns and tell them that the FO should get a Bigger, Better Lou to guard the stronger PFs??

We CAN get an upgrade from Lou for a very reasonable cost— Someone like Steven Hill, Earl Barron, Zoubek, or trading Earl Clark for Jason Thompson.

If enough people talk about it, the FO will listen.

by Eagle Sun on Oct 26, 2010 2:35 PM MST reply actions  

Call them and tell them Eagle Sun.
602-379-7900

by waxmonkey on Oct 26, 2010 3:03 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Clark for Thomson is a steal

but it still wouldn’t solve the defensive problems. And it would make the rotation problems worse.

by jc79 on Oct 26, 2010 3:05 PM MST up reply actions  

I would LOVE to get Jason Thompson

Out of all the realistic options of players to acquire, he is my favorite.

I think a player like Thompson would fit in perfectly with our system. With Hedo and Warrick both untraceable this season, I realize the odds are still slim of us finding a way to acquire him, but I hope it’s something we at least explore.

by 7footer on Oct 26, 2010 3:18 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

was that a fruadien slip...

i hope they don’t become antraceable

"I feel younger almost every year. I feel like I'm getting better every year. I feel like the season gets easier for me the last two years." Steve Nash

by 2NASHTY on Oct 26, 2010 3:31 PM MST up reply actions  

Did you mean 'Freudian"?

I’m getting you a deluxe spell-checker for Christmas.

Auntie Em: Hate you, hate Kansas, taking the dog.
Dorothy

by haremoor on Oct 26, 2010 6:03 PM MST up reply actions  

And what is antraceable?

Auntie Em: Hate you, hate Kansas, taking the dog.
Dorothy

by haremoor on Oct 26, 2010 6:03 PM MST up reply actions  

you think the FO doesn't have these ideas?

you think we really know better than them?

Is it possible they’ve thought of these ideas before we did, and tried to get the trade or the player and then realized (a) the player in question is worse than anything on the roster (Barron) or (b) the player is not available for anything the Suns are willing to give up (a bigger, better Lou Amundson).

Geez.

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by Alex Laugan on Oct 26, 2010 3:54 PM MST up reply actions  

I'm not even sure he can read anything you post Alex.

Just give up, he’s a lost cause.

Extend Jared Dudley!

by Omaha Sun on Oct 26, 2010 4:53 PM MST up reply actions  

I know, right

why did I even try. I wonder if he’s really a spambot.

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by Alex Laugan on Oct 26, 2010 4:57 PM MST up reply actions  

Spambot? Earl Barron is the best spambot available.

In fact, if we could get Dampier, we could go with twin tower spambots.

Auntie Em: Hate you, hate Kansas, taking the dog.
Dorothy

by haremoor on Oct 26, 2010 6:05 PM MST up reply actions  

Last year I was here saying we need to play 100% every game

Because every game mattered.

How I’ve changed my tune (as well as my name). Last October feels like five years ago. I miss Phoenix Stan (still have no idea why he’s not here, or why I quit coming here myself). But I still don’t miss Stat…not yet. This may be Sarver’s version of rebuilding, but I think we’ve got enough here that with a few surprises we could still make the playoffs, and compete.

I don’t think every game matters now because I really think we could benefit from a losing season just as much as a winning season (not that I want to lose…I want to kill people). What I’m saying is that no one knows what will happen and no one knows what will play out whether we win or lose. We’re going to find out something though, and for that I’m excited for the season to start!

So gone are the days of penciling us in for a championship, but we’re not that far off, not with a little luck and a few right moves. If Lopez and Goran play lights out, even if we lose 50 games, I’m going to be interested in this team.

by BravePhin on Oct 26, 2010 2:55 PM MST reply actions  

phoenix stan is here...

he’s seth pollack and he’s our fearless leader

"I feel younger almost every year. I feel like I'm getting better every year. I feel like the season gets easier for me the last two years." Steve Nash

by 2NASHTY on Oct 26, 2010 3:38 PM MST up reply actions  

Don't be lyin' to me

Cause that’s really cool and I’d hate to be happy and then later find out not….

Not to be calling anyone out but Stan wasn’t replacable! Thought Sarver traded him for cash or something.

by BravePhin on Oct 26, 2010 3:43 PM MST up reply actions  

lmao

Go figure. I quit coming here (SunDolphin, not that anyone remembers or cares) sometime in January/Febraury. I probably missed this by a week. Serves me right for being a pecimistic douche.

by BravePhin on Oct 26, 2010 3:49 PM MST up reply actions  

And thanks, Mike, for the link

I thought about asking but didn’t, and am glad it was supplied me anyway.

by BravePhin on Oct 26, 2010 3:50 PM MST up reply actions  

see

all is right with world…except that amare is in new york

"I feel younger almost every year. I feel like I'm getting better every year. I feel like the season gets easier for me the last two years." Steve Nash

by 2NASHTY on Oct 26, 2010 3:51 PM MST up reply actions  

Almost, lol

We still don’t have a title.

by BravePhin on Oct 26, 2010 3:55 PM MST up reply actions  

aren’t they already at 2

"I feel younger almost every year. I feel like I'm getting better every year. I feel like the season gets easier for me the last two years." Steve Nash

by 2NASHTY on Oct 26, 2010 3:19 PM MST up reply actions  

We're only talking about the ones that get hurt during the game.

Personally, I’m betting that Oden finds a way to reinjure a knee even though he’s in street clothes.

by jc79 on Oct 26, 2010 3:33 PM MST up reply actions  

Yea I'm willing to go with that one...

He will probably stub his toe on the folding chair while trying to sit down.. Then in agonizing pain fall twisting his knee and tearing whatever tendons might be left undamaged. While getting up he will inadvertantly hit his elbow on the trainers face causing some sort of lateral epicondylitis (look it up I did!)…

ETA back on the court: 18 years.

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by antiw0rm on Oct 26, 2010 3:37 PM MST up reply actions  

Go suns!

Not really a suns fan, but I jumped on the Nash bandwagon a while back (when he was with the Mavericks….my first game was a Rockets vs Mavericks and I had no idea what was going on) so I do consider the Suns my second team behind my hometown Rockets. Rooting for you guys to win the Pacific!

Split Seahawks/Texans fan. Don't like it? Don't care.

by .Bonzo on Oct 26, 2010 3:27 PM MST reply actions  

All we have to do is get rid of those...

lakers :|

Well crap.

TO THE NBA - " Yeah, you have created a rift within me ; Now there have been ; several complications ; that have left me feeling nothing ; I might say, you were ; wrong to take it from me ; Left me feeling nothing " - Disturbed, "Numb"

by antiw0rm on Oct 26, 2010 3:28 PM MST up reply actions  

Please do!

TO THE NBA - " Yeah, you have created a rift within me ; Now there have been ; several complications ; that have left me feeling nothing ; I might say, you were ; wrong to take it from me ; Left me feeling nothing " - Disturbed, "Numb"

by antiw0rm on Oct 26, 2010 3:39 PM MST up reply actions  

laker losses do make me happy

hope yao stay healthy

"I feel younger almost every year. I feel like I'm getting better every year. I feel like the season gets easier for me the last two years." Steve Nash

by 2NASHTY on Oct 26, 2010 3:39 PM MST up reply actions  

that'd be a stretch

but would be dripping in awesome sauce

"I feel younger almost every year. I feel like I'm getting better every year. I feel like the season gets easier for me the last two years." Steve Nash

by 2NASHTY on Oct 26, 2010 3:29 PM MST up reply actions  

What ever happend to moving the divisions around?

Did that get tossed like all of the other rules changes half way through last season?

TO THE NBA - " Yeah, you have created a rift within me ; Now there have been ; several complications ; that have left me feeling nothing ; I might say, you were ; wrong to take it from me ; Left me feeling nothing " - Disturbed, "Numb"

by antiw0rm on Oct 26, 2010 3:29 PM MST reply actions  

c'mon..

bring it on..!!

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by Christian_33 on Oct 26, 2010 3:31 PM MST reply actions  

Hmmm let's see...

Yup. I still hate Portland fans.

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Oct 26, 2010 3:39 PM MST reply actions  

ahhh

Memories!…. sweet Memories.

TO THE NBA - " Yeah, you have created a rift within me ; Now there have been ; several complications ; that have left me feeling nothing ; I might say, you were ; wrong to take it from me ; Left me feeling nothing " - Disturbed, "Numb"

by antiw0rm on Oct 26, 2010 3:41 PM MST up reply actions  

Anyone watching the game at a cool place?

I don’t know of a good place to go that’s Suns-centric but not too expensive…

"This [basketball] is the second most exciting indoor sport, and the other one shouldn't have spectators."

by Basketball GF on Oct 26, 2010 3:49 PM MST reply actions  

reply fail

v

"I feel younger almost every year. I feel like I'm getting better every year. I feel like the season gets easier for me the last two years." Steve Nash

by 2NASHTY on Oct 26, 2010 3:59 PM MST up reply actions  

I like Metro Sports Bar, too, but I don’t live all that close anymore. Food is good, not horribly expensive, and the atmosphere for games is great (well during last year’s playoffs it was anyway).

by jc79 on Oct 26, 2010 4:14 PM MST up reply actions  

Papago Brewing Co.

Scottsdale Rd. and McDowell. I’m there almost every Thursday night, and it’s an awesome place to catch the game. I saw Goran’s 4th quarter Ex-Spur-losion there.

"We didn’t go for coffee and this kind of stuff."
-El Dragon on his relationship with Sasha Vujacic

by RMason on Oct 26, 2010 4:48 PM MST up reply actions  

Might have to check that out next time.

"This [basketball] is the second most exciting indoor sport, and the other one shouldn't have spectators."

by Basketball GF on Oct 27, 2010 10:43 AM MST up reply actions  

i always liked pranksters in tempe

"I feel younger almost every year. I feel like I'm getting better every year. I feel like the season gets easier for me the last two years." Steve Nash

by 2NASHTY on Oct 26, 2010 3:58 PM MST reply actions  

Question:

Is Bosh, Wade, and James better than the Garnett, Peirce, and Allen of three years ago? And is this what teams are going to have to do for now on to win titles?

by BravePhin on Oct 26, 2010 4:04 PM MST reply actions  

let's wait till those 2 sets of Big Three

win more than 1 ring between them, before giving an answer to that question

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by Alex Laugan on Oct 26, 2010 4:36 PM MST up reply actions  

heh

Good point, man. VERY good point.

by BravePhin on Oct 26, 2010 4:38 PM MST up reply actions  

Mbenga, Morrison, Walton?

"We didn’t go for coffee and this kind of stuff."
-El Dragon on his relationship with Sasha Vujacic

by RMason on Oct 26, 2010 4:49 PM MST up reply actions  

Thunderbird, Mad-Dog 20/20, & Boone's Farm...

Now that’s a Big three…

STAT may be gone but the Suns will rise....!

by Daryl Ray on Oct 26, 2010 5:35 PM MST up reply actions  

Individually, I think the answer to the first question is yes.

Banzai!

by Suns' Sensei on Oct 26, 2010 5:31 PM MST up reply actions  

Greg Oden

I don’t care about the Blazers and their fans, but I’m sorry Greg Oden’s career has been ruined by injuries so far. He could have made as much impact as Dwight Howard and possibly become a future Hall of Famer, and the NBA needs some more great centers—it doesn’t have as many as it did in the 90s or 80s; but so far Oden is Sam Bowie #2.

by 8472species on Oct 26, 2010 4:09 PM MST reply actions  

Ah the memories..

At what point of the season will he be in need of repair this year? Any guesses?

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Oct 26, 2010 4:13 PM MST reply actions   3 recs

sorry but

I never wish ill on another person/player. It’s bad karma

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by Alex Laugan on Oct 26, 2010 4:37 PM MST up reply actions   2 recs

I rec'd it in April, I'll rec it again now.

Wishing ill on another person/player is one thing.
Jokes are something entirely different.

"We didn’t go for coffee and this kind of stuff."
-El Dragon on his relationship with Sasha Vujacic

by RMason on Oct 26, 2010 4:51 PM MST up reply actions  

any 1

here ?

"Da Suns’ Bench. Call them Victoria’s Secret — all kinds of wonderful support."

by phxuk: Ap on Oct 26, 2010 4:27 PM MST reply actions  

people are commenting

so I think that’s a yes. were we all supposed to comment just to you?

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by Alex Laugan on Oct 26, 2010 4:37 PM MST up reply actions  

lol

just was going to ask ne1 watching the celtics heat game

"Da Suns’ Bench. Call them Victoria’s Secret — all kinds of wonderful support."

by phxuk: Ap on Oct 26, 2010 4:41 PM MST up reply actions  

warrick just tweeted he has sweaty palms.....

not a good sign.

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by Wil Cantrell on Oct 26, 2010 4:51 PM MST up reply actions  

so am i, but im not sweating.

im drinking wine and eating potatoe chips. of course im not playing tonight either.

hows everybody celebrating opening night?

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by Wil Cantrell on Oct 26, 2010 4:54 PM MST up reply actions  

Staying in. Beer and chicken parm. Win.

"We didn’t go for coffee and this kind of stuff."
-El Dragon on his relationship with Sasha Vujacic

by RMason on Oct 26, 2010 4:57 PM MST up reply actions  

staying in

fast food first, beer second… gotta go all out on a game night! woo hoo

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by Alex Laugan on Oct 26, 2010 4:59 PM MST up reply actions  

housing a mickie D's

or In n Out Double Double?

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by Wil Cantrell on Oct 26, 2010 5:01 PM MST up reply actions  

maybe Mickey D, maybe Wendy's

would prefer in-and-Out but there’s not one convenient on the way home, and rush hour traffic to get there is a bitch.

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by Alex Laugan on Oct 26, 2010 5:18 PM MST up reply actions  

Think Big Red will take down Mizzou...?

They certainly have the talernt…Taylor just has been up and down…

STAT may be gone but the Suns will rise....!

by Daryl Ray on Oct 26, 2010 5:45 PM MST up reply actions  

Texas wasn't even T-Magic's fault.

We had 4 dropped TD passes and about 3 other drops. Niles Paul is a knucklehead with tiny hands, not great attributes for your #1 WR.

Extend Jared Dudley!

by Omaha Sun on Oct 26, 2010 5:48 PM MST up reply actions  

Well I was impressed with the way they beat a good Oklahoma State team...

I think Mizzou is a little better opponent, but The "Huskers have the advantage of playing at home…

STAT may be gone but the Suns will rise....!

by Daryl Ray on Oct 26, 2010 5:50 PM MST up reply actions  

Mizzou might be better overall, but OSU held the skill position advantage.

Hopefully getting burned by Blackmon woke Prince up. MOe is certainly not Blackmon.

I can’t even name Mizzou’s RBs, but I know all of them put together aren’t as good as Kendall Hunter.

I think Nebraska’s D-Line will determine the game. They have severely underperformed and need to hit Gabbert a lot (serve him right for dissing NEB). Suh singlehandedly ended Mizzou’s season with that chase-down sack on Gabbert last year.

Extend Jared Dudley!

by Omaha Sun on Oct 26, 2010 5:54 PM MST up reply actions  

You're right...

But Nebraska’s defense as a whole has to perform better than it did last week…Can’t afford to give up 30 plus to this team…

STAT may be gone but the Suns will rise....!

by Daryl Ray on Oct 26, 2010 5:57 PM MST up reply actions  

I think every S on the team got benched in that one. The tackling by those guys has been really poor.

But there are so many playmakers on the defense, I think they’ll be all right.

Like I said, I’m looking at the D-Line. Mr. Pre-season DPOY Jared Crick needs to show up big time.

Extend Jared Dudley!

by Omaha Sun on Oct 26, 2010 6:09 PM MST up reply actions  

Staying in my hotel room and will drink my per diem away...

What else are business trips for…?

STAT may be gone but the Suns will rise....!

by Daryl Ray on Oct 26, 2010 5:26 PM MST up reply actions  

lucky dog

make sure you check for bedbugs though…

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by Alex Laugan on Oct 26, 2010 6:33 PM MST up reply actions  

Barkley lost 45 pounds (must have stopped drinking)

We should sign him for the max and put him on the floor

by BravePhin on Oct 26, 2010 4:53 PM MST up reply actions  

+1

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by Wil Cantrell on Oct 26, 2010 4:54 PM MST up reply actions  

Eagle Sun?

I think he’s building himself a life-size replica of Earl Barron, like Dr. Frankenstein.

"We didn’t go for coffee and this kind of stuff."
-El Dragon on his relationship with Sasha Vujacic

by RMason on Oct 26, 2010 5:01 PM MST up reply actions  

More like a Mt. Rushmore of bigs.

He’s added Steven Hill and Jason Thompson to his list, and maybe Dampier as well.

Extend Jared Dudley!

by Omaha Sun on Oct 26, 2010 5:13 PM MST up reply actions  

for some reason

he hasn’t mentioned Dampier yet, as far as I can tell. Yet Dampier is much more talented than anyone he HAS mentioned.

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by Alex Laugan on Oct 26, 2010 5:19 PM MST up reply actions  

Hey...If the Suns

are in need of another 7-footer with back problems and in Jarron Collins/Garrett Siler shape, I’ll gladly suit up!

They don’t have to pay me, just let me watch all the games from the bench. I’ll even go in and foul someone really badly if they ever need me too…Heck, I might even get a rebound or two while I’m in

Sounds fair right?

by 7footer on Oct 26, 2010 5:30 PM MST up reply actions  

Well..you can't be any Slower than Jarron Collins...

And you probalby won’t rack up as high a food bill as Garret Siler would for the Suns…

STAT may be gone but the Suns will rise....!

by Daryl Ray on Oct 26, 2010 5:37 PM MST up reply actions  

steve kerr

orange tie with blue shirt ?

"Da Suns’ Bench. Call them Victoria’s Secret — all kinds of wonderful support."

by phxuk: Ap on Oct 26, 2010 5:19 PM MST reply actions  

the HEAT

looking at the game now they will win the easier teams but the elite teams they will have to work hard for the wins

"Da Suns’ Bench. Call them Victoria’s Secret — all kinds of wonderful support."

by phxuk: Ap on Oct 26, 2010 5:28 PM MST up reply actions  

Nah, they just aren't used to each other

I’m sure by mid season they’ll be going at it with the Lakers and Celtics.

by hcblankscreen on Oct 26, 2010 5:30 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah, they don't really look bad, just very rusty

They’re more a nail to step on right now than a serious bb team. In two weeks they’ll be fine. This is almost like a pickup game between strangers, when you think about it, compared to the synchrony the Celts have.

by BravePhin on Oct 26, 2010 5:35 PM MST up reply actions  

That Wade injury kind of messed things up.

Speaking of poor playing chemistry, I really hope our game is nothing like this.

Extend Jared Dudley!

by Omaha Sun on Oct 26, 2010 5:45 PM MST up reply actions  

im sure

we will score more than 9 points in the first quarter

"Da Suns’ Bench. Call them Victoria’s Secret — all kinds of wonderful support."

by phxuk: Ap on Oct 26, 2010 5:50 PM MST up reply actions  

Don't worry.

The opponent will have way way way more points at halftime.

RIP Seasons of Discontent

by Scott Howard on Oct 26, 2010 5:51 PM MST up reply actions  

big 3

5-23.

awesome.

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by Wil Cantrell on Oct 26, 2010 5:30 PM MST reply actions  

Must be nice to be Eddie House

Just go out there and jack up 3’s for the best teams in the league.

by hcblankscreen on Oct 26, 2010 5:34 PM MST reply actions  

hey i have league pass broadband, does anyone know how i can open it up and pick my 7 teams to watch!? i can’t figure it out!!

by Olivia13 on Oct 26, 2010 5:38 PM MST reply actions  

Even more than Dudz.

Do you think they worked out together?

Extend Jared Dudley!

by Omaha Sun on Oct 26, 2010 5:49 PM MST up reply actions  

SIGN HIM UP!

we need a true PF

If at first you don't succeed, try left field.

by dbacks25 on Oct 26, 2010 5:50 PM MST up reply actions  

ummm

chuck is 6’6

"Da Suns’ Bench. Call them Victoria’s Secret — all kinds of wonderful support."

by phxuk: Ap on Oct 26, 2010 5:52 PM MST up reply actions  

He played tall

And it helped that he was furious!

by BravePhin on Oct 26, 2010 5:56 PM MST up reply actions  

I can't wait for the game!!!!!!

I do not know how this game is going to go.
My head is saying the Suns will lose this game. My gut feeling is saying that they’ll win.
So, we’ll see who wins out on that one…

"If the Suns can shock the world
Goran Dragic is the name."

by Dragic_is_Magic on Oct 26, 2010 5:59 PM MST reply actions  

GAME THREAD GAME THREAD GAME THREAD GAME THREAD

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by Wil Cantrell on Oct 26, 2010 6:00 PM MST reply actions  

WHERE WHERE WHERE

"Da Suns’ Bench. Call them Victoria’s Secret — all kinds of wonderful support."

by phxuk: Ap on Oct 26, 2010 6:05 PM MST up reply actions  

NBA.com

Anybody having zero success, launching the league pass player???

by HarvMel on Oct 26, 2010 6:57 PM MST reply actions  

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