Phoenix Suns Practice Report: Turn Up The Heat, Boys
It wasn't so much a practice as a light shoot around followed by a little four on four half court action.
This all took place leading right up to -- literally ending about 10 minutes before -- the bus left for the airport to take the Suns on their first roadie of the season.
Road trip!!
The four on four was particularly interesting because of one special participant. Dan Majerle.
Thunder Dan can still bring it and by that I mean: talk trash; grab and hold; push and shove; and hit three's. Dan's a pretty nice guy as I am sure you are all aware, but put that man on a basketball court and keep score and the monster is unleashed. It was quite fun to watch, there's not many like him.
Dan was teamed with Zabian Dowdell, Earl Clark, and Dwayne Jones against Matt Janning, Goran Dragic, Gani Lawal and Garret Siler. They played each game to seven and ended up playing about 7 games I would guess.
Team Goran won the series according to Paul Coro's score keeping.
The boys were quite obviously dragging ass after a long hard week of training camp and so the early games were kind of bleh but Majerle was able to get things amped up and once the juiced started flowing...good stuff.
As for training camp and working hard, I talked to Dragic and Warrick about that.
No surprise, both said the workouts were much harder this year, but Hakim gave us the best description as to why that is:
Phoenix Suns Will Pick Up The Pace And Try To Run Teams Off The Court - SB Nation Arizona
"I think we can take some teams' legs away in the fourth quarter especially with the depth we have to keep throwing fresh guys out there and playing a full court game both offensively and defensively. You keep throwing guys out there and I think you can take a toll on some teams."
Click that link to read the rest and see what Goran had to say about Matt Janning (that's what they call a teaser in the business).
The way I am reading all this talk about running hard and what not isn't so much a return to the 7SOL Suns but more of a constant pressure, full attack type mindset that will try and outwork teams on both ends of the floor.
When you have this kind of depth, the way to take advantage is to have more guys working at a higher rate than the other team.
Along the way, it also helps solves the rotation / minutes problem. If everyone buys into playing at full speed for fewer minutes they will accept being on the court less. No player anywhere who gets 35 plus minutes is going at full speed the entire game. Guys that play 20 minutes can do that though. I think/hope that's what we have going on here.
Out work teams (more so than out run teams) and keep everyone happy by keeping the intensity level high. We'll see how that plays out as the season gets going but if it works, it should be fun.
People LOVE watching intense basketball and that includes me. I'm a person too you know, despite what Scott Howard says.
Tomorrow's game against the Kings isn't on TV but it will be on the radio here in Phoenix. Our Kings site, Sactown Royalty, will also have their guy on-site and so I've requested they give us a little extra on the Suns when they cover the game.
Earl Report (because Earl needs his own section)
Earl Clark does look better but I still don't get the sense that he's playing with a ton of confidence or instinct but he's playing with more of both than he was this summer in Vegas.
Can't wait to see him Saturday in Indian Wells. Anyone else going to that game?
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Goran's spin move
forgot to mention that Dragic is using his right hand more and had this Nash jab step, spin move in the lane going. He dribbles at the defender, stops and spins and shoots from about 6 to 8 feet. We’ve seen Steve use it a thousand times to get space and create an open shot.
Now Goran seems to be doing it. It’s different than that ball fake move – the Dragon Shake – that he used a few times against big men.
This is more of a traditional spin and fade away that he can use against guards. Deadly if he keeps it going.
Oh, and Matt Janning was goofing around w/ some windmill dunks. He’s no J-Rich but he can get up off the floor.
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Hopefully Goran continues his development this year...
I am expecting a greater role for him as well as Lopez….
Oh and is Matt Janning going to make this team…?
STAT may be gone but the Suns will rise....!
I think Matt is golden...
Everything I hear and read from the local coverage of the team, it seems as if it is nearly a foregone conclusion that Janning will make the cut. Not because of an implicit statement to that effect, but because of his inclusion in talks of line-ups and rotations.
Also, I’ve heard reports of him staying late after practice to further develop his game, as well as demonstrating some pretty impressive shooting in scrimmages.
I know this team traditionally sticks with the minimum 13 player roster, but I think this year will be an exception. Maybe Seth can lend further insight to this as well, but I believe Janning has shown enough for the team to keep him around.
by 7footer on Oct 4, 2010 8:26 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Seriously feels like Christmas eve -
I am excited to see how all the speculation and teasing translates this week. Wish I could go to the game on Saturday but can’t.
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
great practice notes Seth
You seem to be the most positive about this team after you’ve talked to some guys directly, whereas if you’re left to your own devices (ie. team in San Diego for a week) you get more negative and sullen. Maybe you should travel with the team. On their dime, of course.
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lol
some truth to that I guess…I am still very much on the fence about Hedo and don’t predict all that much as far as a deep playoff run but I do think they can be a fun team.
But as you know, if I think they are sucking I will say so :)
Just remember, everyone thought the Cardinals defense was going to be good this year coming out of camp and that’s not worked out. So with everything, it’s a wait and see scenario.
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of course
but at least the Suns will be fun to watch, and “surprise” to all of us if they win big games.
I’m in!
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Not a 49ers fan, but I think I can speak for them when I say
Thanks, Cardinals, for keeping the 9ers from having the worst QB situation in the division.
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, uh, your opinion, man."
~The Dude, AKA His Dudeness, Duder or El Duderino
I think I can speak for the Cardinals when I say
Thanks Falcons, for letting the Niners have the worse record in the league.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
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the "outworking" part is interesting
Hedo and Warrick have not been known for outworking anyone through hustle. Childress is our only addition who’s known for hustle. Basically, last year first unit was finesse while the second unit was the work-hard group. If Gentry wants the first team to hustle as hard as the second team, then he’s going to have to switch up the lineups, IMO.
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True, Hedo and Warrick have never led their team in floorburns.
But Amare never did either and even when Leandro showed some hustle, his lack of court sense usually would lead to something terrible happening. He was kind of like a feral cat with a blindfold on.
So the hustle factor is a draw regarding offseason roster turnover.
"We didn’t go for coffee and this kind of stuff."
-El Dragon on his relationship with Sasha Vujacic
by RMason on Oct 4, 2010 4:26 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Hustle is important...
But playing smart ball is just as…We need to balance this hustle with guys like Nash, Grant and Dudz that can make smart decisions…
STAT may be gone but the Suns will rise....!
Love that Dragonshake
Can’t wait to see more of it and this new move you speak of.
Any new moves from Lopez so far? I remember in the live chat on here I asked if he would incorporate a Dream Shake or something similar, I think he said he was working on moves like that. Would love to see it.
from the Suns.com videos
it looks like Lopez has a lot more offensive game than we’re seen before. 10-15-footers, hooks, up and unders, etc.
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yup
that’s what I saw as well in the weeks leading up to camp. But lets see it work in a real game…
Raising Arizona Sports at SB Nation Arizona twitter: @sethpo
I believe that as soon as this team can get that balance and chemistry just right we will be deadly. I think we will contend. However, I’m not going to go out and call us contenders right now, it may take a while just like it took until the all-star break last season before we started playing great. Hope it doesn’t take as long this season. I too really think this will be a fun team to watch. I feel like were kind of a mix between the 05-06 Suns and the 06-07 Warriors.
Don't trade Dudley!
yeah
it’s like the 2010-2011 Suns are, like, 70% similar to the 2009-2010 Suns or something. I see a lot of similarities there.
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Hey, guys, let's not forget last year.
Lopez, Dragic, Dudley, and everybody else, Grant Hill included, got a lot of experience in the post season. There is a swagger to that – all the doubts that led to the mid-season slump, and the first couple of games against LA in the WCF should be gone, replaced by – well, swagger. They don’t have to think about things like being good enough – they know they are.
Yes, Amar’e is gone – but Childress seems to be making a big impression, and I think he is going to be the NBA steal of the year. Turk is Turk – I think if he plays to Orlando form, rather than Toronto form, everyone will be fine – anything else will be a bonus. And the depth and constant pressure sound like a winning formula – a refinement of last years bench mob with a focus on wearing out the other team, how exciting will that be to watch?
The only thing I’m worried about is Gentry winning the COY award – but maybe he can break that jinx, too.
Auntie Em: Hate you, hate Kansas, taking the dog.
Dorothy
Earl Clark could be the team's swagger consultant.
From what I hear, the guy knows how to turn his swag on.
"We didn’t go for coffee and this kind of stuff."
-El Dragon on his relationship with Sasha Vujacic
by RMason on Oct 4, 2010 7:56 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
lol
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
In other news, Nash has made the NBA.com's All-Clutch team.
Formerly known as NashMV3 of BSotS, if anyone even remembers.
Nash is my mancrush. But Dragic is the 2nd coming of Manu Ginobili, which makes him just as tasty.
BTW Seth, your teaser was unsuccessful. I refuse to read that article.
So guys, what did the article say?
why refuse to read it?
SB Nation AZ actually has a lot better content, IMO, than BSotS. At least in terms of the main articles. Where BSotS reigns is in fanposts, readership and the comment threads. Seriously, the articles are only there to initiate new awesome comment threads from you guys and gals.
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Hakim "Warwick" isn't making any waves
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
No... but Janning is.
Peyton Manning= Better.
by JesusNinja13 on Oct 4, 2010 10:04 PM MST up reply actions
I think it's a little premature to be disappointed in anyone at this point...
Unless you’re a Bulls fan – then you can be disappointed in Carlos Boozer.
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
I wonder...
If there isn’t some sort of strategy for the trade deadline emerging from all these signings. I mean Jones was a decent pick up last year for rebounding but we didn’t use him hardly at all. Janning? If this kid had a LOT of potential he would be picked up by some other teams too. Plus we dont really have the court space or time to dole out. Then there is the glut at SF that we have.
All in all it looks like the front office is planning on making a big sale come the trade deadline. JRich’s contract will be a big draw to some teams that need the cap space and having “extra” pieces around that have proved themselves worth a look from other teams will only help us in the long run. Dont be surprised if names start popping up in trade talks especially if some of these guys do really well in the Suns’ system.
Reading is good...
true, but
after the whole Shaq thing, then Amare thing, then this past summer’s moves… I’m just ready to enjoy the team we’ve got at least for a little while.
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If were good before the deadline, I doubt a trade will happen. If there is a trade it will be because a team offered us a good deal, not because we were out looking to make offers.
Don't trade Dudley!
Right.
t I am not entirely sure that the Suns wont be looking to unload Rich’s contract before he jets and they cant get a a decent player for a trade. He is definitely not worth the 14.4 mil he is getting paid this year. But we may be able to trade for someone who IS worth that. Or a few someones.
Reading is good...
question
If JRich averages 20+pts and 6+ rebounds per game is he worth the 14.4?
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Here are some players getting more than JRich this year.
Rashard Lewis
Michael Redd -
Andrei Kirilenko
Gilbert Arenas
Vince Carter
Zach Randolph
Joe Johnson
Kenyon Martin
Elton Brand
Peja Stojacovic
I certainly think he earned his salary last year – if he plays as well or better, we should pay him.
Auntie Em: Hate you, hate Kansas, taking the dog.
Dorothy
Why does nobody think
We might extend J-Rich?
by hcblankscreen on Oct 5, 2010 4:01 PM MST up reply actions
I suspect we’ll offer him 10-12, and a few other teams will offer up to 14, and he’ll take the 14.
I don’t have any proof of this, it’s just a gut feeling.
I;m hoping that the new CBA will help keep other teams from outbidding us.
It’s a lot easier to extend a player than sign one – see Durant and Noah.
Auntie Em: Hate you, hate Kansas, taking the dog.
Dorothy
It seems that people on here get bored with players if they're here for a couple of years.
Hill, JRich, Amar’e – even Nash. I gues the grass is greener…
Auntie Em: Hate you, hate Kansas, taking the dog.
Dorothy

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