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Eutychus Steamy Blog Dump: All I want for Christmas is a Polish Hammer

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So Long Homie - You Will be Missed.

So after taking a few weeks off of furious commenting and post trolling to concentrate on finals and meditation ( I got straight A’s and I’m now officially graduated and gots my edumacation degree BTW), I’m back with a steamy blog dump for all my rabid Bieber-ific fans.  Mmmmmm. Merry Christmas.

So we all knew that this time would come where we’d either have to commit the next 4-5 years to extend the Jason Richardson era, or use his enticing expiring contract to make a big trade.  We probably weren’t guessing that the timing would be such as it was, or that Hedo would be involved in the trade… scratch that – maybe many of you really hoped Hedo would be involved. :) Nevertheless it’s gone down like the Titanic and both the Suns and the Magic will either sink or float with their new rosters.

I love the trade.  Hate to see JRich go… but absolutely heart this deal.

More filthiness after the jump suckaz.

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In a recent post right after the trade Seth wrote,

Essentially, the Suns are sacrificing this season to get Marcin Gortat and perhaps one more year of Mickael Pietrus along with a Orlando's first round pick which will be in the mid-to-late 20's.

How's that sit with you, Suns fans?

How does that sit with me?  I don't agree with the apparent fact, ‘the Suns are sacrificing this season' - so it doesn't sit with me at all. 

For my ritual of throwing Scott Howard under the bus, I chose this comment I saw this week that suggests that maybe Seth and Scott are having a little too many happy-hour brainstorming sessions,

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Are we really throwing this season away?  I meandered through enough of the 1000+ comments that we as a community have produced to get a feeling of where everybody kind of stands... and really, the arguments people are making to try and convince that this team is worse off and that this season is officially garbage are pretty weak to say the least. 

Let me throw down some statistical gems first. 

Here's a key:

ORtg - Offensive Rating: Estimate of points produced per 100 possessions

DRtg - Defensive Rating: Estimate of points allowed per 100 possessions

TRB% - True Rebounding %: Estimate of the % of rebounds a player grabbed while on the floor

TS% - True Shooting %: Measure of shooting efficiency

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The stat that immediately jumps out at me is Gortat's 99 for his DRtg this year - the last time the Suns had a regular rotation player with a DRtg under 100 was way back in the 2002-03 season when Shawn Marion had a DRtg of 98 (and that was the last time he's had a rating under a 100 for his career).   Before this trade - Channing Frye was the one on our team sporting the lowest DRtg at a whopping 111.  Wow.

All three of the guys coming in have really good defensive ratings which is a wonderful thing that all of us screaming for more defense should be embracing with borderline awkward bear-hugs.   The overall impact this would have on the team is that we would bump up from being rated dead last at 30 in the NBA for DRtg (previously at a 113.8 average for the team) to 27 with an average DRtg of 111.08.   That might not seem like much, but it is a lot closer to the 110.2 DRtg average we had last year (which was 23rd in the league) which for a team with as much offensive explosiveness as we have can make a huge difference.

Speaking of our offense - I won't completely dismiss the fact that we just traded our number 1 scorer in JRich - but ya'll shouldn't dismiss the fact that this team has lead the league in offense for the past number of years JRich or not.

Pre-trade we had an average ORtg of 112 (3rd best in the league) - with the math and factoring post-trade we will have an ORtg that will be even higher than that. 

So wait - we will have better offense AND better defense?  Yeah, that just happened.

Not to mention the fact that stylistically both Gortat and Pietrus are better fitting pieces than Barron and Turkaglu.  Barron gave us the hustle and physicality but no offense - Gortat offers both and more with the potential to be Polish Hammerific on the PnR with either Steve or Dragic.  He has good hands and great touch around the rim, we will see an immediate improvement offensively around the glass and in the paint with his insertion into the rotation.

Pietrus can work as a good perimeter defender as well as spot up and shoot the ball from wherever, he's also very athletic and can finish on the fast break or in traffic crashing the boards - Turkaglu needs the ball in his hands more which didn't bode well for the team especially when you have PG's that create like we do, he was also not the best defensive player for us committing fouls often in the paint and getting beat out on the perimeter. 

Vince Carter?  We'll see - he's definitely an injury waiting to happen.  But as has been suggested by all - with our training staff he might find the health he needs to play the entire season with us.  Even if he continues to produce here in Phoenix the numbers he was creating this year with Orlando, this should be more than enough to carry a scoring load that would help the Suns continue to be near the top of the league in offense.   His health is a huge contingency - but Vince is a bonafide scorer in this league and with the style and company he's rolling with now, I will not be surprised when he regularly scores around the  20 pt mark.

Now let me throw down some character pearls to go with that -

So statistically our defense should improve and if Vince can stay healthy our offense has potential to improve a lot as well.  If you think I'm WAY off base with this assumption let me know why.

Now we know JRich was a high character guy and a big part of the Mojo Nash and Hill are always talking about when it comes to team Chemistry.  But we didn't hear too much about Earl Clark being the life of the party and we definitely didn't hear about how Hedo was buying the guys Steaks and Shirley Temples late at night on the road...

There can be little doubt though that the 3 coming in from Orlando will have little problems 'gelling' with the current Suns.  Besides the fact that I think these guys are hard working, hilarious and that they'll fit right in - it's obvious that they are fitting in pretty fast when Steve Nash, Jared Dudley and Mickael Pietrus are already establishing a relationship just check some of the twitter conversations these guys are throwing out there.

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Yeah - pretty funny stuff.   In case you missed the press conference yesterday, Pietrus and Vince Carter were also pretty funny there as well here's a snip,

Pietrus: I’m very excited to be here to be a sun today and I can’t wait to get started and get the franchise the way it needs to be.

Carter: It’s a pleasure to be here. We feel like it’s a great opportunity for us. We feel like we fit well in this offense and it’s been a storied organization for years and years and we just want to continue to build and help this organization get to where we feel they can be and that’s winning championships. So Uh, they have a great piece and I think the point guard this year, um, (snapping fingers), um, what’s his name?

Pietrus: Mickael Pietrus.

Carter: No, yeah Nash. So we’re excited about the opportunity so thanks for having us and thanks for welcoming us to the team.

Besides who can't help but smile when I dude with a funny accent is actually funny as well?

As for Gortat - this guy sounded super-motivated to get out of Dwight Howard's shadow and monkey-jam on any and everyone here with Phoenix.  As for what he's like and how he'll fit in with the team chemistry wise?  All I will say is this, YOU HAVE TO WATCH THESE NEXT TWO VIDEOS.  This dude is legit funny.

So all in all I am very excited about this trade and what it will do for this team this season especially.  We've had Seth and others extensively go over the future impact of these deals with the expiring contracts and future flexibility for trades and whatnot and yattatayayatayty blalbalblaaala.  I get all that.  I really do - but I can't for the life of me see where we're getting off saying that this season is a wrap.  This isn't the Cardinals we're talking about - this is the Phoenix Suns.  We're still only a game out of 8th in the West and 6 games out of a 4 seed and we arguably just made our team better.  So what's with all the panic? 

Be patient my home skillets - I think we'll be just fine and back in the playoff scramble in no time.  Even if we lose to Miami and L.A. this week, two teams that are on top of their game right now - I'm not hitting the panic button.  It's a long season and I have a feeling these new additions will make this team a potent threat in the West again. 

All we need is that puncher's chance in the playoffs.  We can be gellin' like a felon by then.

Peace.

*Thanks to Matt York From the AP for the sweet pic of a reminiscing JRich at the top

 

[Note by Seth Pollack, 12/22/10 4:40 PM MST ]

Good stuff Euts, and congrats on the graduation. Welcome to the world.

As for the Gortat love, feast on this...

Marcin Gortat And Robin Lopez Create The Great Wall Of Phoenix - Desert Dirt - SB Nation Arizona

"Definitely not (allowing layups) even if I have to sit down with six (fouls). I'm going to be waiting over there for LeBron and D-Wade," Gortat said with the kind of big man bravado Suns fans haven't heard since Shaq left.

[Note by Seth Pollack, 12/22/10 5:26 PM MST ]

In lieu of a full blown practice report today, we will make like a self service gas station....here's the audio, pump yourself.

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AWESOME post Eutychus!

You’re the man! We’ve missed you!

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Yeah, I Twitter - @Eutychus12

by Eutychus on Dec 22, 2010 3:39 PM MST reply actions   2 recs

Thanks bro!

Good to be back!

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Yeah, I Twitter - @Eutychus12

by Eutychus on Dec 22, 2010 3:39 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

rec'd

Raising Arizona Sports at SB Nation Arizona twitter: @sethpo

by Seth Pollack on Dec 22, 2010 4:43 PM MST up reply actions   2 recs

haha rec for A grades

good post by the way

Never fear. Grant Hill is Here.

by sun_equalizer on Dec 22, 2010 4:43 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

You can rec youself

you just have to chiggidy check yourself first!

Real name no gimmicks

by Will Slaven on Dec 22, 2010 11:45 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

I agree with Eutychus, Eutychus!

Eutychus, Eutychus Eutychus Eutychus, Eutychus. Being John Eutychus.
Man, great post. And yes, I’ve missed you. And yes, I agree with everything you say. But that doesn’t mean I’m a sycophant, does it?

"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
"In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip."

by haremoor on Dec 22, 2010 4:44 PM MST up reply actions  

Eutychus always said...

Eutychus is like a box of Eutychus. You never Eutychus what you’re gonna Eutychus.

You can get with this, or you can get Gortat.

by RMason on Dec 22, 2010 5:37 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

If you can't Eutychus what you're gonna Eutychus, then you can't Eutychus at all.

"Yes the game threads have more mood swings than a coked up pregnant woman but you have to admit, it’s always a fun ride." - NashMV3

by NashMV3 on Dec 22, 2010 5:39 PM MST up reply actions  

How much Eutychus could a Eutychus Eutychus if a Eutychus could Eutychus Eutychus?

You can get with this, or you can get Gortat.

by RMason on Dec 22, 2010 5:40 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Eutychus, and don't you forget it.

"Yes the game threads have more mood swings than a coked up pregnant woman but you have to admit, it’s always a fun ride." - NashMV3

by NashMV3 on Dec 22, 2010 6:12 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

You call yourself the man?

What, you don’t trust us enough to do it for you?

I am a leaf in the wind. Watch me soar.

by noonoo on Dec 22, 2010 4:51 PM MST up reply actions  

Just boosting my comment numbers

don’t worry about it :)

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Yeah, I Twitter - @Eutychus12

by Eutychus on Dec 22, 2010 5:02 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Great post, Eutychus.

I agree with everything that you said. I’m definetly more excited about this season after the trade.

The Suns are tough!

by Diego Queiroz on Dec 23, 2010 8:56 AM MST up reply actions  

I don't believe Clark got enough PT for his numbers to mean anything.

Anthony Tolliver says "Get that weak stuff outta here!"

Good luck in Orlando J-Rich.

Get your head right Aaron. We need you.

by Omaha Sun on Dec 22, 2010 4:11 PM MST up reply actions  

Just confuse

Never fear. Grant Hill is Here.

by sun_equalizer on Dec 22, 2010 4:19 PM MST up reply actions  

So I know we traded Earl Clark...

But he hardly played, so I see Gortat as more of a replacement for Earl Barron (who was released yesterday – if you didn’t hear the news) more than a comparable trade for Earl Clark – speaking current number-wise.

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Yeah, I Twitter - @Eutychus12

by Eutychus on Dec 22, 2010 4:44 PM MST up reply actions  

If you looked at NBA TV,

we brought Earl Barron back from the D-League.

Anthony Tolliver says "Get that weak stuff outta here!"

Good luck in Orlando J-Rich.

Get your head right Aaron. We need you.

by Omaha Sun on Dec 22, 2010 5:14 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

You mean Gani Lawal?

Yeah I knew that

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Yeah, I Twitter - @Eutychus12

by Eutychus on Dec 22, 2010 5:26 PM MST up reply actions  

No, NBA TV said we brought back Earl Barron.

It was a typo. One that I laughed at. They combined the 2 transactions into one.

Anthony Tolliver says "Get that weak stuff outta here!"

Good luck in Orlando J-Rich.

Get your head right Aaron. We need you.

by Omaha Sun on Dec 22, 2010 11:14 PM MST up reply actions  

lol I didn't see that!

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Yeah, I Twitter - @Eutychus12

by Eutychus on Dec 22, 2010 11:44 PM MST up reply actions  

Just happy to be living an Earl-free lifestyle

Barron couldn’t score from point-blank range and all he did was soak up minutes that could have gone toward developing the Silo.

Clark was the biggest busted draft choice we’ve had since William Bedford, and yes, I am counting Zarko Cabarcapa.

by suns68 on Dec 22, 2010 5:18 PM MST up reply actions  

We've experienced a "flight of the Earls"

that hasn’t been seen since 17th Century Ireland. Earl 2’s last name is Barron so we should have expected it.

Real name no gimmicks

by Will Slaven on Dec 22, 2010 5:42 PM MST up reply actions   2 recs

Recc'd for obscure historical reference

That would probably only be understood by Pat Burke.

by suns68 on Dec 22, 2010 5:54 PM MST up reply actions  

I wish I was as smart as you.

I really only had 1 final to study for. The rest of my grades were 90+ and I only had English on the edge. So what do I do? Skip studying and hang out all day on BSotS. So long 4.0.

Anthony Tolliver says "Get that weak stuff outta here!"

Good luck in Orlando J-Rich.

Get your head right Aaron. We need you.

by Omaha Sun on Dec 22, 2010 4:11 PM MST reply actions  

Next game you come to let me know

I’ll just start beating up every guy dressed as a Gorilla that I see.

The bus continues to hurt.

Love ya Euty

RIP Seasons of Discontent

by Scott Howard on Dec 22, 2010 4:28 PM MST reply actions  

muahaha

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Yeah, I Twitter - @Eutychus12

by Eutychus on Dec 22, 2010 5:02 PM MST up reply actions  

Good Read

congrats on the sheep skin, good work.

Go Suns

by Grockcubs on Dec 22, 2010 5:06 PM MST reply actions  

Good read Eut. I can't believe I forgot about you when I did that MVP thing on Smoooth's fanpost

My apologies. Rec’d.

"Yes the game threads have more mood swings than a coked up pregnant woman but you have to admit, it’s always a fun ride." - NashMV3

by NashMV3 on Dec 22, 2010 5:09 PM MST reply actions  

Yeah and don't you ever forget again...

No to be honest I don’t know what you’re talking about

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Yeah, I Twitter - @Eutychus12

by Eutychus on Dec 22, 2010 5:10 PM MST up reply actions  

Congrats on graduating

rec and a very good article

"Da Suns’ Bench. Call them Victoria’s Secret — all kinds of wonderful support."

by phxuk: Ap on Dec 22, 2010 5:10 PM MST reply actions  

I think I read somewhere that Earl Barron was a -.300 something in Wins produced

Which means he cost us games. No offense to Earl but Jarron Collins would’ve been an upgrade let alone The Polish Hammer.

Vincie are you OK? Are you OK? Are you OK Vincie?

by Smoooth Criminal on Dec 22, 2010 5:11 PM MST reply actions  

I found it

http://dberri.wordpress.com/2010/12/20/the-suns-look-to-extend-the-2010-11-season-by-a-few-days/

If Earl continued to be the starter he would’ve cost us 4.2 wins. I know it isn’t a big sample size but damn.

Vincie are you OK? Are you OK? Are you OK Vincie?

by Smoooth Criminal on Dec 22, 2010 5:17 PM MST up reply actions  

Any trip to the basket with Barron

Was an adequate sample size to gauge his effectiveness.

by suns68 on Dec 22, 2010 5:19 PM MST up reply actions   3 recs

On the contrary.

I’m highly offended by his jump shots.

"Grant's time machine is hard work. He's just a class player."
~Steve Nash

by East Bay Ray on Dec 22, 2010 5:33 PM MST up reply actions   2 recs

buddump bum!

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Yeah, I Twitter - @Eutychus12

by Eutychus on Dec 22, 2010 5:36 PM MST up reply actions  

Well,

He was adept at defending himself, and offending all of us by not being offensive

Real name no gimmicks

by Will Slaven on Dec 22, 2010 5:37 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Lol rec'd

Vincie are you OK? Are you OK? Are you OK Vincie?

by Smoooth Criminal on Dec 22, 2010 5:47 PM MST up reply actions  

Regarding the poll-I hate Will ferrell, he is not funny at all.

Also, my teacher back in middle school used to date will.

Vince Carter>Jason Richardson

by Bkj on Dec 22, 2010 5:19 PM MST reply actions  

Will probably hates you then

So what style comedian more fits your fancy?

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Yeah, I Twitter - @Eutychus12

by Eutychus on Dec 22, 2010 5:28 PM MST up reply actions  

For me

One that doesn’t make me feel like an idiot for laughing at their jokes

Real name no gimmicks

by Will Slaven on Dec 22, 2010 5:33 PM MST up reply actions  

wow tough crowd tonight

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Yeah, I Twitter - @Eutychus12

by Eutychus on Dec 22, 2010 5:35 PM MST up reply actions  

Sound reasoning, well applied ...

If he was dating the teacher I was crushing on in middle school, I’d hate him too.

I, on the other hand, thought the Detroit underground sewer skating circuit and the stoner making the $10,000 shot were two very hilarious moments in film history.

by suns68 on Dec 22, 2010 5:31 PM MST up reply actions  

Great Post

In regards to the stats tables, it would be interesting to see the real indicator of how we’ve improved by adjusting the averages for minutes played in the first vs. expected minutes played in the second.

Real name no gimmicks

by Will Slaven on Dec 22, 2010 5:35 PM MST reply actions  

Yeah we have to wait a few games at least

until Basketball-reference adjusts everything for that

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Yeah, I Twitter - @Eutychus12

by Eutychus on Dec 22, 2010 5:41 PM MST up reply actions  

I'd say "rec"...

But I think that goes without saying.
Al McCoy thinks you’re silky smooth.

You can get with this, or you can get Gortat.

by RMason on Dec 22, 2010 5:42 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

I wish

I sit next to him sometimes at Majerle’s and he only tells me, “Pass the Ketchup please”

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Yeah, I Twitter - @Eutychus12

by Eutychus on Dec 22, 2010 5:45 PM MST up reply actions  

That nearly made me blow spaghetti out my nose.

Rec.

"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
"In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip."

by haremoor on Dec 22, 2010 6:47 PM MST up reply actions  

that's so damn Awsome!

RRRRRRREEEEEWK

happy holidays everyone.

by 2NASHTY on Dec 22, 2010 9:23 PM MST up reply actions  

True story:

I live in the same neighborhood as Mr. McCoy, and used to work at the local Safeway store. During summertimes he would come in weekly with his wife (Georgia McCoy), and a few times I rung up their order.

Georgia did the shopping, but like any supportive husband Al would wait patiently until it was time to check out.

Somehow, I was always able to resist the urge to let a “Shazzam!” loose whilst bagging his groceries. In fact, I couldn’t bring myself to acknowledge him until I said “congratulations, Al” after his induction to the HOF. He was very cordial. He’s also very short, and as with any short person I’m always tempted to scoop him up and run off with him in my arms like a baby.

Disregard that last part. Thanks.

You can get with this, or you can get Gortat.

by RMason on Dec 22, 2010 5:52 PM MST up reply actions   4 recs

He went to the same barber shop as me when I was little

Somewhere, I have a Al McCoy basketball card signed with a shazaam

Real name no gimmicks

by Will Slaven on Dec 22, 2010 5:54 PM MST up reply actions  

That's pretty sweet.

I’m a former Safeway cashier too, but never got to check out anyone interesting. Had you said any of his catchphrases to him, I’m sure he would have smiled politely and thought “ugh, not again.” Way to show restraint!

"Grant's time machine is hard work. He's just a class player."
~Steve Nash

by East Bay Ray on Dec 22, 2010 5:58 PM MST up reply actions  

Now I DID blow spaghetti out my nose!

"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
"In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip."

by haremoor on Dec 22, 2010 6:48 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

If waxmonkey and 2nashty were here, i'd probably aspirate the whole bowl and die.

"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
"In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip."

by haremoor on Dec 22, 2010 6:55 PM MST up reply actions  

Wow,

I’d hate to be the first responder to that scene

Real name no gimmicks

by Will Slaven on Dec 22, 2010 6:56 PM MST up reply actions  

yeah -

it would look like a horror movie – but I’d die happy!

"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
"In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip."

by haremoor on Dec 22, 2010 7:00 PM MST up reply actions  

Recc'd simply for the line about scooping him up and running off with him in your arms.

That was pure gold and it made me laugh. A lot.

"If the Suns can shock the world
Goran Dragic is the name."

by Dragic_is_Magic on Dec 22, 2010 8:38 PM MST up reply actions  

Are you suggesting

That “Sith” Pollack and Scott “The Prince of Darkness” Howard have hatched some wicked conspiracy, the purpose of which is to cause us here on BSOTS to give up the season after this trade? And that you are some Luke Skywalker character who is trying to destroy their metaphorical Death Star?

"Grant's time machine is hard work. He's just a class player."
~Steve Nash

by East Bay Ray on Dec 22, 2010 5:43 PM MST reply actions  

First rule of Light Club...

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Yeah, I Twitter - @Eutychus12

by Eutychus on Dec 22, 2010 5:51 PM MST up reply actions  

Bob has Bitch tits?

happy holidays everyone.

by 2NASHTY on Dec 22, 2010 9:27 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Ok...Cornelius?

You can cry now.

You can get with this, or you can get Gortat.

by RMason on Dec 23, 2010 9:58 AM MST up reply actions  

awesome post and congrats man!

I’m glad you put this together. I was thinking along these lines but hadn’t put anything together. awesome.

I am curious what the 3 incoming players’ DRTG will be with the Suns. If they are significantly higher here, is it the coaching? or the teammates?

really, we now have reputed defenders in Peitrus, Gortat, Lopez, Childress, Duds, Hill and maybe even Frye now. The only weak ones are Nash, Carter (really, he is barely average), and Warrick in the rotation (and maybe Frye… I’m on the fence there).

If the Suns remain poor on defense, then we have to start questioning the coaching/scheme…

Blogging Suns Basketball at Bright Side of the Sun

by Alex Laugan on Dec 22, 2010 5:46 PM MST reply actions  

That’s a great point and something to really watch out for because there is no excuse. We have the players to do it now. Our defense should improve quite a bit. If not, than it’s on the coaching.

Don't trade Dudley!

by Beavis 25 on Dec 22, 2010 5:51 PM MST up reply actions  

If that’s the case, than good bye season.

Don't trade Dudley!

by Beavis 25 on Dec 22, 2010 5:54 PM MST up reply actions  

Dude...

This isn’t a post for your type.. :)

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Yeah, I Twitter - @Eutychus12

by Eutychus on Dec 22, 2010 6:01 PM MST up reply actions  

Realistically though, that’s why we drafted Lopez, signed Josh, extended Dudley and traded for Gortat and PIetrus. We all know Hill will give it best on defense and Frye is already trying to get better at it. It’s all about team defense though. Gentry will have to find a way to make it work and I hope he doesn’t continue to give up open threes as a part of his game plan. We’ve got an extra wing defender and we’ve got some low-post defenders now. No excuses.

Don't trade Dudley!

by Beavis 25 on Dec 22, 2010 5:57 PM MST up reply actions  

Realistically, though

We’ve added defenders to the team year after year after year, and never actually get any better at defense.

by suns68 on Dec 22, 2010 6:09 PM MST up reply actions  

Exactly. Last year we made quite an improvement defensively when Lopez came back. When he went down we weren’t that good at it, but we still put forth the effort because we had to. It was playoff time and the team was motivated. Of course not having a healthy Lopez against LA really hurt our chances and forced us to play zone because we couldn’t guard Gasol, but than we were giving up open threes to Fisher and Artest.

Don't trade Dudley!

by Beavis 25 on Dec 22, 2010 6:13 PM MST up reply actions  

The day I question Gentry will be a sad one

let’s hope it doesn’t come to that

Real name no gimmicks

by Will Slaven on Dec 22, 2010 5:51 PM MST up reply actions   3 recs

In fact, on paper this is the best group of defenders that Nash has ever had around him.
 It’s all about chemistry now. We just got make it all fit. We’ve got his big puzzle with a lot of awesome pieces and we just got a put it all together until it’s complete. Then, wala we’ve got this nice looking team that finally plays defense! Of course it will be a challenge. Suns and defense usually don’t fit that well. Maybe if we changed the name…

Don't trade Dudley!

by Beavis 25 on Dec 22, 2010 6:10 PM MST up reply actions  

If we're poor on defense still-

It may be because we’ve got so many players that aren’t used to playing with each other.

Or possibly because the ‘D’ doesn’t have a vocal leader they take cues from. The person should the PF or C, but so far we don’t have a vocal big man.

Or it could be because we’re giving up points off of turnovers (we’ve had a lot of that this season).

Trade Warrick!!!

by jc79 on Dec 22, 2010 11:02 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Great post dude! Your a real writer on here.

Can’t disagree about anything above. I like this trade.

Don't trade Dudley!

by Beavis 25 on Dec 22, 2010 5:52 PM MST reply actions  

Thanks Beavis!

I was beginning to feel like a fake one!

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Yeah, I Twitter - @Eutychus12

by Eutychus on Dec 22, 2010 6:03 PM MST up reply actions  

Like a strap-on?

"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
"In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip."

by haremoor on Dec 22, 2010 6:52 PM MST up reply actions  

yeeeah... I wouldn't know anything about that haremoor

and I hope you wouldn’t either

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Yeah, I Twitter - @Eutychus12

by Eutychus on Dec 22, 2010 7:17 PM MST up reply actions  

Mr. Will Slaven

You sir, are on a roll.

You can get with this, or you can get Gortat.

by RMason on Dec 23, 2010 9:59 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Phoenix Suns to-do list:

1. integrate three new players and replicate (if not exceed) last year’s kick-ass chemistry
2. maintain our offensive efficiency while improving to (at least) middle-of-the-pack defensively
3. make the playoffs
4. Beat the spurs in a 7-game series
5. Beat the lakers in a 7-game series
6. Cock-smack whoever comes out of the east
7. Hoist the championship trophy; die happy

Simple, right? :)

Just remember what ol' Jack Burton does when the earth quakes, and the poison arrows fall from the sky, and the pillars of Heaven shake. Yeah, Jack Burton just looks that big ol' storm right square in the eye and he says, "Give me your best shot, pal. I can take it."

~Jack Burton, "Big Trouble in Little China"

by u_must_chill on Dec 22, 2010 6:24 PM MST reply actions   4 recs

Number six might be tricky

Unless its the knickerbockers. they’re definitely prone to cock slapping. (get it?)

Real name no gimmicks

by Will Slaven on Dec 22, 2010 6:28 PM MST up reply actions  

They are undergarments, thats why

damnit, I was hoping for some daps for that.

Real name no gimmicks

by Will Slaven on Dec 22, 2010 6:59 PM MST up reply actions  

I get the undergarments part

it was the delivery that was lacking. better luck next time ;)

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by Alex Laugan on Dec 23, 2010 5:42 AM MST up reply actions  

I'm recc'ing that, chill. Good freakin' work.

"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
"In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip."

by haremoor on Dec 22, 2010 6:53 PM MST up reply actions  

I have to admit

I was taking a wait and see attitude with this trade. Then, as each and every day passed, I read and re-read every article about our newcomers and started liking this trade more and more. Then this article comes into my life, with all its pictures, videos, and stats. Now I’m full-blown loving this trade!!!! Time to quit rosterbating for as I have something tangible to work with. Thanks Eutychus you’ve changed my life, even though you probably have no clue who I am.

by Nate_Sun86 on Dec 22, 2010 6:32 PM MST via mobile reply actions  

This is awesome

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Yeah, I Twitter - @Eutychus12

by Eutychus on Dec 22, 2010 6:38 PM MST up reply actions  

I have to admit

I was taking a wait and see attitude with this trade. Then, as each and every day passed, I read and re-read every article about our newcomers and started liking this trade more and more. Then this article comes into my life, with all its pictures, videos, and stats. Now I’m full-blown loving this trade!!!! Time to quit rosterbating for as I have something tangible to work with. Thanks Eutychus you’ve changed my life, even though you probably have no clue who I am.

by Nate_Sun86 on Dec 22, 2010 6:32 PM MST via mobile reply actions  

This is awesome again.

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Yeah, I Twitter - @Eutychus12

by Eutychus on Dec 22, 2010 6:38 PM MST up reply actions  

I have to admit

I was taking a wait and see attitude with this trade. Then, as each and every day passed, I read and re-read every article about our newcomers and started liking this trade more and more. Then this article comes into my life, with all its pictures, videos, and stats. Now I’m full-blown loving this trade!!!! Time to quit rosterbating as I have something tangible to work with. Thanks Eutychus you’ve changed my life, even though you probably have no clue who I am.

by Nate_Sun86 on Dec 22, 2010 6:33 PM MST via mobile reply actions  

How the heck

did I do that? That’s weird.

by Nate_Sun86 on Dec 22, 2010 6:37 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

This is awesome again and again and it never gets old

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Yeah, I Twitter - @Eutychus12

by Eutychus on Dec 22, 2010 6:39 PM MST up reply actions   2 recs

And I did this on accident

Imagine how awesome it would’ve been had I known what the heck I was doing.

by Nate_Sun86 on Dec 22, 2010 6:43 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

We are not skinny little kids standing over there.

Lol, Gortat must be referring to the Suns pre-him and Lopez(before he came back from injury).

Don't trade Dudley!

by Beavis 25 on Dec 22, 2010 6:35 PM MST reply actions  

omg thx

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Yeah, I Twitter - @Eutychus12

by Eutychus on Dec 22, 2010 7:18 PM MST up reply actions  

Congrats on graduating. You are now a real Adult.

Love the post.. Am excited to see the Polish Hammer ( there I said it without laughing I been cured) in action.
Oh how’s T nights a Christmas movie?

"My name is Shawn Spencer and this is my partner, Radio Star, though I'm afraid your video may kill him."

by Aztiramtempe on Dec 22, 2010 7:22 PM MST reply actions  

It's probably not

but it’s an amazing movie and since Christmas is amazing I’m pretty sure that qualifies it as a Christmas movie

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Yeah, I Twitter - @Eutychus12

by Eutychus on Dec 22, 2010 10:59 PM MST up reply actions  

If I had to pick a Will Ferrel movie it be

Anchor man.. I love carpet, I love lamp.. Hilarious stuff.. I’m going to make this my Christmas movie.. Right after it’s a wonderful life.

"My name is Shawn Spencer and this is my partner, Radio Star, though I'm afraid your video may kill him."

by Aztiramtempe on Dec 23, 2010 7:18 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

That's a classic too!

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Yeah, I Twitter - @Eutychus12

by Eutychus on Dec 23, 2010 9:49 AM MST up reply actions  

Elf is, without a shadow of a doubt, the best Christmas movie of the last 15 years. Phenomenal stuff,

Grant Hill is my hero.

by keify34 on Dec 22, 2010 7:53 PM MST reply actions  

I agree.

It should be winning the poll by a much larger margin.

"If the Suns can shock the world
Goran Dragic is the name."

by Dragic_is_Magic on Dec 22, 2010 8:31 PM MST up reply actions  

Elf is boring

You Elf fans better watch what you say, I’m all hopped up on Mountain Dew! I will come at you like a Spider Monkey! I know it wasnt in the poll but a Christmas Story is much better.

by thedoovage on Dec 22, 2010 8:36 PM MST up reply actions  

watching the Christmas Story right now

and I agree. Elf is a close second though, so I’m watching it after.

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by PHXgp on Dec 22, 2010 8:41 PM MST up reply actions  

FLAGGED!!!!!!

happy holidays everyone.

by 2NASHTY on Dec 22, 2010 9:33 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

+1

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by PHXgp on Dec 22, 2010 9:52 PM MST up reply actions  

+1\

Anthony Tolliver says "Get that weak stuff outta here!"

Good luck in Orlando J-Rich.

Get your head right Aaron. We need you.

by Omaha Sun on Dec 22, 2010 11:38 PM MST up reply actions  

Defintely on board with "last 15 years"

My favorite is Christmas Vacation though.

RIP Seasons of Discontent

by Scott Howard on Dec 22, 2010 9:45 PM MST up reply actions  

That's a good one too.

But if we’re talking truly good Christmas movies, it has to be either Miracle on 34th Street or White Christmas.
And no one can deny that.

"If the Suns can shock the world
Goran Dragic is the name."

by Dragic_is_Magic on Dec 22, 2010 10:00 PM MST up reply actions  

Holiday Inn >> White Christmas

If you subtract the horrible black face portion….which is almost certainly PurpleTears approved

RIP Seasons of Discontent

by Scott Howard on Dec 22, 2010 10:05 PM MST up reply actions  

White Christmas is the best!!!!!

"If the Suns can shock the world
Goran Dragic is the name."

by Dragic_is_Magic on Dec 22, 2010 10:06 PM MST up reply actions  

Nah, it's Bad Santa by a friggin country mile!

I watched it again a few night ago. Stupendously funny.

by Van2010 on Dec 23, 2010 5:54 PM MST up reply actions  

Great post!

I’ve been slowly coming around on the trade and this just solidifies my thoughts.
I don’t know how much this will help things, but it really can’t make things any worse.
And I am actually really excited about Gortat. Don’t know a whole lot about Pietrus.
And while I have never been a huge Vince Carter fan I can’t say I know a whole lot about him and I think I have been swayed into an unfair opinon of him by the comments on here before I even really know what he’s about. So I’ll just have to wait and see how I feel about him.
But anyways, great stuff. Makes me feel a lot more confident about this trade.
(The weird thing is, I’ve already sort of forgotten about J-Rich and Hedo being on our team. Crazy!)

"If the Suns can shock the world
Goran Dragic is the name."

by Dragic_is_Magic on Dec 22, 2010 8:36 PM MST reply actions  

forget about Jrich so soon?

He was doing so many things for the team! I understand what you mean, though.

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by PHXgp on Dec 22, 2010 8:41 PM MST up reply actions  

I'm shocked that I miss JRich

I had a lot of the same feelings about JRich when we got him, that many here on BSOTS have about Carter. I think Carter’s addition is a positive one. He replaces JRich and we get Gortat and Pietrus to boot. I cant wait to see these guys play!

" Dick Bavetta and Moses parted the Red Sea together". ----Charles Barkley

by thedoovage on Dec 22, 2010 9:13 PM MST up reply actions  

It's not that I've forgotten what he did for the team..

I thought I would continue to feel devastated but I guess I just came to terms with it and now it just in some weird way seems like this is the way it’s always been.. If that makes sense.
It’s sort how I thought I would never get used to this team without Amar’e and LB and Lou, but once the season started it, it just all felt right. Seeing Amar’e play for the Knicks never even felt weird… Like he belonged there all along..

"If the Suns can shock the world
Goran Dragic is the name."

by Dragic_is_Magic on Dec 22, 2010 9:57 PM MST up reply actions  

I still really miss Amare, and still can't get used to him in a Knicks jersey...

Maybe because I’ve cheered him on for most of this last decade, but I’ll always think of him as a Sun. I do wish him the best though.

As for J-rich, I really liked him as a player and it stung for a while once he was traded. However, like you, I’m now mostly past it and looking forward to seeing our new additions. I hope that J-rich, Hedo, and even Earl Clark can find their place in Orlando and have much success there…Except for when they play the Suns, of course.

by 7footer on Dec 22, 2010 11:45 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

your nature will serve you well

in life. Anyone who can adapt and move on without sinking into “what might have been” doldrums will spend a lot more of their days in a happy place than a sad one, regardless of what happens.

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by Alex Laugan on Dec 23, 2010 5:48 AM MST up reply actions  

It's all about Jingle all the Way, people.

Sue me for wanting a Turbo Man doll. Young Anakin Skywalker was lucky his Terminator father managed to beat Sinbad for the toy.

"Yes the game threads have more mood swings than a coked up pregnant woman but you have to admit, it’s always a fun ride." - NashMV3

by NashMV3 on Dec 22, 2010 8:40 PM MST reply actions   3 recs

Uber rec'ing this.

I throw a Christmas party each July and the opening stanza of the party is a drinking game set to Jingle All The Way. You drink when they say Turbo Man. You can imagine how that goes.

RIP Seasons of Discontent

by Scott Howard on Dec 22, 2010 9:46 PM MST up reply actions  

The brawl with the crooked Santas was classic.

"Yes the game threads have more mood swings than a coked up pregnant woman but you have to admit, it’s always a fun ride." - NashMV3

by NashMV3 on Dec 22, 2010 9:53 PM MST up reply actions  

And I don't want to know why you'd throw a Christmas party in July of all months.

"Yes the game threads have more mood swings than a coked up pregnant woman but you have to admit, it’s always a fun ride." - NashMV3

by NashMV3 on Dec 22, 2010 10:03 PM MST up reply actions  

Have you never heard of Christmas in July?

"If the Suns can shock the world
Goran Dragic is the name."

by Dragic_is_Magic on Dec 22, 2010 10:06 PM MST up reply actions  

Nope, I have not. Is that bad?

"Yes the game threads have more mood swings than a coked up pregnant woman but you have to admit, it’s always a fun ride." - NashMV3

by NashMV3 on Dec 22, 2010 10:26 PM MST up reply actions  

No. I just thought that it was something most people did.

My Grandma and Grandpa throw a Christmas in July party every year. Although, I am sure it is nothing like the one Scott throws…

"If the Suns can shock the world
Goran Dragic is the name."

by Dragic_is_Magic on Dec 23, 2010 11:43 AM MST up reply actions  

You mean there’s no midgets? And no melon-smashing contest?

You can get with this, or you can get Gortat.

by RMason on Dec 23, 2010 11:56 AM MST up reply actions  

Is there really any difference between the 2 Christmases in Arizona?

Anthony Tolliver says "Get that weak stuff outta here!"

Good luck in Orlando J-Rich.

Get your head right Aaron. We need you.

by Omaha Sun on Dec 23, 2010 1:36 PM MST up reply actions  

Only about 50 degrees worth.

You can get with this, or you can get Gortat.

by RMason on Dec 23, 2010 2:40 PM MST up reply actions  

How about 60 degrees plus snow?

Anthony Tolliver says "Get that weak stuff outta here!"

Good luck in Orlando J-Rich.

Get your head right Aaron. We need you.

by Omaha Sun on Dec 23, 2010 2:45 PM MST up reply actions  

The Grinch with Jim Carrey.

That is all.

"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
"In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip."

by haremoor on Dec 22, 2010 9:16 PM MST reply actions  

That movie made me feel sad.

I prefer the animated version.

"If the Suns can shock the world
Goran Dragic is the name."

by Dragic_is_Magic on Dec 22, 2010 9:58 PM MST up reply actions  

It grows on you, really

I hated it the first time I saw it, but now it’s one of my favorites.

Trade Warrick!!!

by jc79 on Dec 22, 2010 11:13 PM MST up reply actions  

google the girl who played adorable little cindy lou-who and start crying

she’s turned into a terrible human being

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Dec 22, 2010 11:31 PM MST up reply actions  

I'ts Jennie from Gossip girl..

I Google.. Poor girl. She seems incredibly loss & confused. Being in that horrible show probably dosent help much..

"My name is Shawn Spencer and this is my partner, Radio Star, though I'm afraid your video may kill him."

by Aztiramtempe on Dec 23, 2010 7:15 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

Nightmare before Christmas....DUH!!!!!!

right behind A Christmas story….Triple dog duh.

muchos congrats euts…good stuff

happy holidays everyone.

by 2NASHTY on Dec 22, 2010 9:35 PM MST reply actions  

Love this movie

Gots me a shirt with a pic of Jack on it and every time I wear it people get all happy towards me.

Trade Warrick!!!

by jc79 on Dec 22, 2010 11:11 PM MST up reply actions  

The boo-gay part is absolutely correct

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Yeah, I Twitter - @Eutychus12

by Eutychus on Dec 23, 2010 1:14 AM MST up reply actions  

No mention of Bad Santa yet?

That is some funny stuff!

"Grant's time machine is hard work. He's just a class player."
~Steve Nash

by East Bay Ray on Dec 22, 2010 10:07 PM MST reply actions  

Anybody want some sammiches?

by ajcarleton on Dec 23, 2010 8:48 AM MST up reply actions  

Great post, Euchytus. Totally agree. The other reason we are going to be a lot better from here on out is Rolo is back and looking very healthy. He has played pretty well in his first couple games back. He will help us on defense and also in getting easy buckets. So things are definitely looking up!

by BringBackBarkley17 on Dec 22, 2010 10:19 PM MST reply actions  

Scrooged with Bill Murray

“Just a few hours ago, I told a man to staple antlers to a mouse…”

Trade Warrick!!!

by jc79 on Dec 22, 2010 11:15 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

Lol, love that one. For some reason it’s always funny when she hits him with the toaster.

Don't trade Dudley!

by Beavis 25 on Dec 22, 2010 11:49 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Rec for both of you - I forgot about this one.

It’s a Wonderful Life is the best classic one.

"The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
"In the long run the pessimist may be proved right, but the optimist has a better time on the trip."

by haremoor on Dec 22, 2010 11:52 PM MST up reply actions  

Best trade...ever!

Imagine, we got a very solid center, and in Mickael Pietrus, lucked out with a starting point guard better than Nash (…according to Mickael Pietrus). Score!

Jokes by a Frenchman aside, player-for-player, contract-for-contract I like this trade. Helps that the Magic have become the LeBron-era Cavs. Too bad a major trade had to happen midseason (yet again).

by yeahblah on Dec 23, 2010 12:59 AM MST reply actions  

For those that have not seen this....

Another Marcin Gortat funny video from a show called “Dante and Galante” check it out its pretty funny.

 here is another Marcin Gortat video

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Video-Marcin-Gortat-can-hook-you-up-with-old-so?urn=nba-137776

by iphxsuns on Dec 23, 2010 2:52 AM MST reply actions  

Oh man that's a good one

He’s a pretty funny guy

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Yeah, I Twitter - @Eutychus12

by Eutychus on Dec 23, 2010 10:03 AM MST up reply actions  

one thing Duds (and Nash, I think) mentioned

early in the year is that the team is much quieter this year, which was a nice way of saying boring and lifeless (though nice and chummy too).

I really think Gortat and Pietrus will help bring life back to the bus rides and plane rides…

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by Alex Laugan on Dec 23, 2010 5:52 AM MST reply actions  

I'm going to guess for his blocks and dunks :)

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Yeah, I Twitter - @Eutychus12

by Eutychus on Dec 23, 2010 9:57 AM MST up reply actions  

talledhega a christmas movie?

now I’ll have to agree that you can pop that one in the dvd anytime of year, but how is it a christmas movie?

either way, id say ’Dega is better than Elf.

if ya aint first your last.

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by Wil Cantrell on Dec 23, 2010 11:37 AM MST up reply actions  

I don't know ...

They do talk a lot about sweet baby Jesus

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Yeah, I Twitter - @Eutychus12

by Eutychus on Dec 23, 2010 5:45 PM MST up reply actions  

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