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Suns Down Kings With Another Defensive Gem: 104-88

Grant Hill with one of the Suns 9 blocked shots. Phoenix held the Kings to 34 points in the second half on 36% shooting in the win. (Photo by Max Simbron)

Who are those impostors in the Orange and Purple and what do they think they are doing playing "defense"?

After holding the Hawks to 30 points in the second half on Friday, the Suns repeated the feat tonight, limiting the Kings to 34 total points on 12 of 33 shooting. That's 36.4% for the mathematically challenged.

Add to that a 29-15 advantage on the boards, a 10 to 3 advantage in second chance points, and a 30 to 10 advantage in points in the paint and you might as well be watching the 2008 Boston Celtics.

And if you must know, it was Amare Stoudemire's 11 rebounds in the second half that led the way.

"I mean, Amare Stoudemire, he's a beast. He was coming in there, jumping over everybody, snatching rebounds and putting it back up. That's what hurt us. Good team like that we've got to do a better job getting those rebounds and leaving them to one stop like they did to us. We get that down it could have been a close game tonight," Tyreke Evans said about the Phoenix Suns rebounding prowess.

I know, we are talking about the Kings here but still, they are a big team that's 11th in the league in total rebounding rate and 3rd in offensive rebounding. The Suns had 20 offensive rebounds to their 9. That's impressive.

You know what else is impressive?

Steve Nash

Star-divide

Despite being a game-time decision due to back and lower abdominal pain he came out and dropped 17 assists on the Kings. Don't think he's all the way back though and in fact Coach Gentry is considering leaving him home for the road trip to Oklahoma City on Tuesday.

Nash said the training staff was able to help him get some things loose before the game and he wanted to contribute but he's still struggling with the pain, "I'm not right. It's difficult to control myself, to go one way, stop and pull up. It's tender and I don't have a lot of body control so it's very hard to be accurate with my shot in that way."

Making the pain even worse for him was learning that Captain Canada's home Olympic Hockey Team was downed by the upstart Americans 5 to 3. When they announced the score during a stoppage in play, Nash made a face and did a double thumbs down and shook his head. He had previously predicted that, "the Yanks were going down."

After the game, he had this to say about the national disgrace suffered by the Canucks, "It's tough. There was a moment where I almost slapped someone in the front row because kept yelling it (the score) to me but we're worried about season ticket renewals so I held back."

Other notable players?

Jason Richardson busting out the 26 points was nice, as was Grant Hill's amazing defense and smooth jump shots.

Grant finished with 16 points (7/11), 6 rebounds, 2 steals and three blocks. Nice game from the Suns wings as well as from Channing Frye who didn't even attempt a three pointer and still finished with 12 points.

Frye was aggressive and, as a result, led the team with 7 free throw attempts.

Gentry credited the Suns reacting better to teams switching screens. He made a point of saying that the Suns did a good job getting Frye the ball when the Kings switched a point guard on to him. In some ways, I wonder if having Nash not feeling good about his shot forced the team to take advantage of the size mismatch in the post.

Defensively, the team mostly credited improved effort and focus but something Robin Lopez mentioned stood out to me, "That's all around having faith in each other. We feel that we don't have to put people on the line. We feel that the help is there."

Good defensive teams always talk about trusting each other and so to hear Robin mention that is a good sign for a team that might just be finding a way to finally improve their defensive performance. We'll see if keeps up and becomes a trend or if this is just a blip.

Next up, Thunder on Tuesday in OKC and then back Wednesday in Phoenix against the 76ers.

Nice pose, Jason. Well done.

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  Post Game Audio:

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Game Notes Taken In Real Time (and not edited or proofed so lay off)

1st Qtr 

  • Suns got to Robin in the post early. He missed the baby hook but looked solid. More please.
  • Suns double 'Reke early. Rotations good. Air ball from Casspi
  • Kings scoreless 3 minutes in. Defense??
  • Landry and Evans score to make my last bullet point meaningless
  • Nash looking pretty good
  • Landy has face up game too...damn
  • Kings playing solid D. Activity looking good for a team that played last night and kinda of sucks
  • Amare bulling his way through the paint - 8 points so far out of the Suns 20
  • Clark in the game with a nice aggressive more. Of course. He's always aggressive
  • And Clark finishes the quarter with an ill-advised jumper
  • 25-27 Kings.

2nd Qtr

  • Second unit starts with the back court press and finishes the defensive possession
  • Clark again thinks he's LeBron goes iso the second he touches the ball. Turnover
  • The Goran vs Beno battle again...always fun
  • Lou hitting the jump shot that Clark can't hit
  • Another kind of ugly game. No tacos again? What are Suns fans going to do?
  • Suns down 8 behind Udrih doing some fancy stuff. Like hitting shots. Crazy
  • Amare and Nash back in at about 6:30 mark
  • Not looking great but the Kings will find a way to lose this game
  • Nash sized up Evans on the baseline and went right by him and found JRich cutting
  • Suns making a run close it to 3 after a great hustle play from Robin
  • JRich with 17
  • Tyreke with the assist of the game as he passed the ball straight to the ref on the wing...sweet pass!!
  • Jason's feeling it
  • So much for the defensive slug fest
  • Robin answers Tyreke's assist with a whiff of his own straight into the first row
  • Udrih's 3 - damn him. 54-51 Kings

3rd Qtr

  • Kings shot 56% in the first half and beat the Suns in the paint 28-22 but Jason's three three's are keeping the Suns in it. At least the rebounding isn't bad. 21-20 Kings
  • Amare is just off tonight. Missing everything. He's now 4-9 with only 9 points and 3 rebounds. Guess the post no-trade bounce is over
  • Good start to the quarter. Suns on a 10-4 run. Nash with 13 assists already. That's 13 assists on 25 total Suns field goals
  • Kings switching everything but the Suns have seen enough of that now
  • Nash scored or assisted on 17 of 27 buckets....and he's hurt
  • Amare is pissed over that last foul call. That might have woke him up
  • Lopez!!! Great OReb and put back! I LOVE  YOU ROBIN
  • Amare now has 10 rebounds
  • 11 rebounds
  • Suns bench needs to do a solid job to start the fourth and this game will be over
  • Robin with the great offensive rebound but then he jacks up a quick fade away as if the clock was running out. It wasn't. To make it worse, he was so out of position that his miss turned into a fast break for the Kings
  • 75-69 Suns. Should be 77-69 but Dragic and Dudley both missed tip ins so it is not 77-69. It is 75-69

4th Qtr

  • Suns held the Kings to 15 points in the 3rd quarter. Another solid defensive effort should do it
  • Amare playing well should do it
  • If Steve and come back in rested and continue to play well, that should do it
  • Lets do it!
  • FRYE!!! Curling off the screen getting to the hoop. The man plays like a 6'11" two guard without the quickness
  • Great fast break running by Goran. Super bounce pass to Grant in transition
  • Frye w/ the nice turn around. He should be a two guard
  • Suns D has been great
  • Suns on a 7-0 run to start the quarter. That will do it
  • Suns just imposing their will. Beating up the Kings. Taking it to them. Putting them on their heals. Winning
  • I could care less about hockey but how awesome is that the USA beat Canada!!
  • Grant has been a stud in this game on the defensive end. 3 blocks and 2 steals and 5 rebounds. Yum
  • Nash coming back in at the 5:58 mark with a 10 point lead. He has 16 assists. If he gets 20 he breaks Kevin Johnson's record for the most 20 assist games (seven)
  • Kings cut it to 8 on 'Reke's great play
  • Beno getting hot...again
  • Great offensive rebound from Amare and put back. He's really come through in the second half
  • No three's from Frye and he still has a big game. 12 points, 5 reb and great activity on D
  • Tacos thanks to Jason's 3.
  • Nice effort in the second half. Held the Kings to 34 points 

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The Suns allowing teams below 90 points for two straight games! When was the last time this has happened?

by Beavis 25 on Feb 21, 2010 9:59 PM MST reply actions  

My coach used to say

that when you win games playing great defense, it carries over to the next game. Let’s hope this continues to happen. Great effort out there. Go Suns!

"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"

by PanamaSun on Feb 21, 2010 10:18 PM MST reply actions  

Happy the Suns won. Every win is another step to the playoffs. That said the true strength of this team is its bench and that bench was 6 of 21 with only Frye going to the line. The Kings are a team the Suns just own. A good game against OKC is necessary. We have to be able to play well against young, successful teams or we are just kidding ourselves.
Would also point out that in the first half the Kings scored 54 points. Think the defense was more a function of their mental weakness than anything else.
Gentry has got to expand the young players minutes. Dudley has to be pushed to shoot more and he and Dragic need to demand stepped up responsibility. Problem is this game will just encourage Gentry to limit them which is absolutely the wrong way to go.
These vets will not win in the second round without real help from the young players.
The key here is to win games but as a team effort and I am very afraid Gentry simply does not get it.

by catseyetwice on Feb 21, 2010 10:38 PM MST reply actions  

If Nash stays home

Dragic first NBA start? Just curious.

Good win.

by Grockcubs on Feb 21, 2010 10:40 PM MST reply actions  

He has 2 NBA starts

First was November 14th, 2008 against Sacto when Nash was suspended for the Houston fight. Sean Singletary ended up getting major minutes in that game (L O freaking L)

2nd was @ Portland earlier this season when he started at SG for an injured J-Rich

http://seasonsofdiscontent.com/

by Scott Howard on Feb 21, 2010 11:10 PM MST up reply actions  

yep your right

barbosa started that game and dragic came off the bench

by dontTradeAaronNelson! on Feb 22, 2010 7:22 AM MST up reply actions  

He also started a preseason game this year...

but I don’t remember which one – but I was there and I remember being pissed that Nash wasn’t going to play – yet Dragic played brilliantly and made the game a lot of fun to watch. He’ll do fine in OKC.

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Feb 22, 2010 9:28 AM MST up reply actions  

Thanks

seems Dragic is better prepared at this point.

by Grockcubs on Feb 22, 2010 7:30 AM MST up reply actions  

Houston fight?

I’ve forgotten that. WHo was in it? Don’t tell me Nash fought…but I guess he must have.

by species8474 on Feb 22, 2010 8:49 AM MST up reply actions  

A bunch of people that ultimately just got pushed over by Shaq, haha.

by underxthebridge on Feb 22, 2010 9:18 AM MST up reply actions  

lol

“It’s what I do, I move piles”

by dontTradeAaronNelson! on Feb 22, 2010 9:20 AM MST up reply actions  

Does anyone know when Barbosa may be back. Three or four weeks or is he likely out for the rest of the season?

by Beavis 25 on Feb 21, 2010 11:27 PM MST reply actions  

to be honest do we really want him back? He’d just take JRich’s and Dragics mins…. I’d rather have D Dog develop with 20+ min a game.

by SSOHOWARD on Feb 22, 2010 9:47 AM MST up reply actions  

Yes, since the Suns haven’t been a prodigious three-point shooting team recently. And maybe Richardson will go cold.

by species8474 on Feb 22, 2010 10:06 AM MST up reply actions  

If he's healthy than he's a big asset to our team

But if he comes back all gimpy and what not….yeesh.

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Feb 22, 2010 10:08 AM MST up reply actions  

could it be his fault?

I don’t blame the coaching staff anymore. As leader of the team and as a superstar, Nash has the stature to get games off—certainly against bad teams—if he wants them. Running himself into the ground would be no better than his coach running him into the ground.

by species8474 on Feb 22, 2010 11:39 AM MST up reply actions  

Gotta be realistic, w/o

Nash on Tues in OKC, a win is going to be a TALL order, but it’s a good move. The Suns can’t risk Steve setting himself back, and putting those next two games @ home against PHI & LAC at risk..by the way, great quote from Tyreke about Stat, man I’m glad he’s still wearing the purple and orange!

by jma67 on Feb 21, 2010 11:34 PM MST via mobile reply actions  

Me too.

by species8474 on Feb 22, 2010 8:59 AM MST up reply actions  

I agree..it's going to be tough...

I will , however, still expect the Suns to play hard…I just down want to see us go to OKC and get our heads handed to us…

"I especially liked the part where I dunked on the McDonalds All-American dude..."

Anonymous high-school player after a Virginia basketball state championship game...

by Daryl Ray on Feb 22, 2010 1:17 PM MST up reply actions  

good win

another good win, happy to see a game won yet again based on what appears to be a big defensive 2nd half.

Bit disapointed to see very limited minutes for the bench tho.

Be interesting to see what our front office does before end of the year if amare keeps playing like this.
His comments after the game where interesting regarding defense and college

by bassy500 on Feb 22, 2010 12:01 AM MST reply actions  

that was interesting to me too

"In college is where you learn the fundamentals of defense but I didn’t go to college," he said. "When I played with Team USA, defense was important. Now, I’m starting to enjoy it."

well I hope it’s never too late… having in mind that he was coached by Mike D most of his time… TP period was transition, obviously, and if those words are true and he continues like this, we should all be happy campers…

by zeze_999 on Feb 22, 2010 2:05 AM MST up reply actions  

Good win

Sactown Royalty predicted a W against the Suns again. We swept them and i think one of the writers there predicted a win every time lol

Steve Nash plays D!!

Twitter: @PhxSuns86

by phxsuns on Feb 22, 2010 1:41 AM MST reply actions  

Sactown Royalty is deluded...

Kinda along the lines of Marion thinking someone was going to offer him a max contract…

"I especially liked the part where I dunked on the McDonalds All-American dude..."

Anonymous high-school player after a Virginia basketball state championship game...

by Daryl Ray on Feb 22, 2010 1:19 PM MST up reply actions  

Clearly it wasn’t a fan of good basketball.

by underxthebridge on Feb 22, 2010 9:19 AM MST up reply actions  

I dunno guys

Watching YOUR team play D is fun but you couldn’t pay me enough to watch the Detroit teams of a couple years back play. Scoring 80 pionts winning while holding their opponents to 76.

by SSOHOWARD on Feb 22, 2010 9:54 AM MST up reply actions  

I respectfully disagree. We have had high-scoring teams (that don’t win championships) for so long that I wouldn’t mind seeing something “new.”

by species8474 on Feb 22, 2010 10:07 AM MST up reply actions  

Thats what I said

If its your team I dont mind watching that, but if its Detroit, etc… only putting up 80 points that is some deadful ball.

by SSOHOWARD on Feb 22, 2010 10:48 AM MST up reply actions  

not necessarily true but i do see where most fans come from when they say this...

it can be a thing of beauty when a team plays such good defense that it forces the other team out of their element…

i think you are confusing good defense with bad offense…. bad offense sucks to watch but good defense is not

by Superelkman on Feb 22, 2010 12:30 PM MST up reply actions  

I am very eager to find out how long this defense will continue and whether it will work against the Western powers. I don’t take the Blunder lightly, but that doesn’t mean I consider them a team to care about—sorry, I don’t yet. But the Spurs are at the end of the month.

by species8474 on Feb 22, 2010 9:01 AM MST reply actions  

Didn't watch the game

But if we can get hill 11 shots a game around 13 feet good things will happen, also if Channing can drop 12 without a single 3 point attempt things will only get better from here. We need to lock Channing up now before we explore the other sides of his game if he starts taking it to the rack, drawing fouls, there’s no way we can keep him at 2m a year.

by SSOHOWARD on Feb 22, 2010 9:31 AM MST reply actions  

You might be right about Channing..

Then again, if he reverts to launching three’s he may not be worth much more…

"I especially liked the part where I dunked on the McDonalds All-American dude..."

Anonymous high-school player after a Virginia basketball state championship game...

by Daryl Ray on Feb 22, 2010 11:13 AM MST up reply actions  

I like Channing, he just needs to put another 15-20 pounds of muscle on him and he will be able to play a little more solid D, I think he is a decent defender but just a bit undersized. He gives a solid effort on the defensive end when he’s out there and gives 1+ blocks a game. If he could put some weight on he wouldn’t be a liability on the defensive end we are then able to spread the floor to let Fropez go at it in the post. I would love to see us put 4 guys on the 3 point line that are legit shooters and dump it int to Lopez, things would get very interesting.

by SSOHOWARD on Feb 22, 2010 11:21 AM MST up reply actions  

i would like to see Channing use the 3-pt shot as one weapon in his arsenal not his only weapon...

if he could step out for about 3-4 3’s a game and play big the rest of the time he would be much more valuable… anyone can sit out there and chuck 3’s… it is a waste of his size to almost always be on the perimeter

by Superelkman on Feb 22, 2010 12:32 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

i think as it stands he is a bad defender but has the potential to be decent...

he does get pushed around too much and isn’t an aggressive player at all…

by Superelkman on Feb 22, 2010 12:33 PM MST up reply actions  

I guess, but the Suns already aren’t a big three-point shooting team like the 2004-05 team…

by species8474 on Feb 22, 2010 11:36 AM MST up reply actions  

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