Daily Poll: Are you Sick of Amare Talk Yet?
It's starting to get old isn't it. Scratch that. It got old a few days ago and yet like Pants on the Ground you just can't look away. One is the most culturally significant event to sweep the nation since Jersey Shore and the other is only the single most important decision the Phoenix Suns will make in the next 12 years (m.o.e. +/- 11 yrs).
So today's question is: Are you done yet?
Daily Links:
ESPN's Ric Bucher on Sports 620 KTAR talking about...
Suns broadcaster Tim Kempton on Sports 620 KTAR talking about....psych! - Jason Richardson
- KTAR.com - Doug: I wouldn't mind Greg Monroe in a Suns uniform
Doug Franz starts up a draft watch blog using some nice cognitive dissonance to ignore that fact that the Suns don't have a 1st round pick. But you never know - that could change with one little Amare trade. - SUNS: Postgame Quotes: Suns at Nuggets, Feb. 3, 2010
Suns guard Jason Richardson "We just went out there and were aggressive. Last time we were here we came in at 3 in the morning, battled and we were up by 20 and lost a close game. We remembered that. This is one of the top teams in the West and we want to be on their level and we want to get back to that level. (Personal night) "Just being aggressive on my end. We knew they were going to do a lot of switching and put a point guard on me. I went to the post and got some easy baskets." - Melo, we're ready when you are... (Nuggets/Suns recap) - Denver Stiffs
Melo, we're ready when you are... (Nuggets/Suns recap) - Nets' immaturity wore on Harris - NBA - Yahoo! Sports
For all the drama in Phoenix, it could be worse...much much worse - Trade deadline: Possible destinations for Phoenix Suns' Amare Stoudemire - ESPN
Amare Stoudemire is a hot name in trade talk. Where could he land? - NBA.com: Suns' rapid-fire pace helps aging Nash look young again
Three of us were talking following a Suns shootaround a few weeks ago. Phoenix coach Alvin Gentry energetically leading the charge with the logic and statistics, veteran beat writer Paul Coro of the Arizona Republic, and me. We got on the topic of Steve Nash. - Amare Stoudemire Says He's Leaning Towards Not Opting Out - SB Nation
One of the assumptions we all made throughout this trade deadline season is that Amare Stoudemire would opt out of his contract and become a free agent in the great 2010 free agent derby. However, in an interview with Chris Tomasson of Fanhouse, Stoudemire implies that he’s actually leaning the opposite way. - Appraising All-Star Weekend's Party Potential With An NBA Anecdote - SB Nation
NBA'er know how to get their party on in a very organized manner -
Suns Spot | One-on-One with El Dragón
@pjspaws: What is the biggest difference between European basketball fans and American fans? Dragic: “Fans? Phew, lot of different. In Europe there’s more pressure from the fans. When we play in Serbia and Belgrade, sometimes after the game I have to have a towel over my head because they are throwing coins and all this stuff. It’s a little bit crazy, more intense. More pressure and everything… here in the NBA it’s a little bit different. Some teams have great fans. Golden State, Utah [and] our fans are great, but it’s a huge difference than in Europe.” -
Louisville Columnist: DeMarcus Cousins A Better NBA Prospect Than John Wall - SB Nation
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When the rumors first start, it’s fun, and right before the deadline, it’s even more fun, but right now when there’s no chance of anything happening and talk has kind of slowed down, it gets pretty old.
The Del Harris link made me think of Devin Harris first
Since it just says Harris in the headlines. I was thinking "What the hell? Did I miss Devin Harris going apeshit at his team?
I thought the same thing
at first…couldn’t blame Devin though. Yikes
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by Seth Pollack on Feb 4, 2010 11:39 AM MST up reply actions
Oh come on – it’s only been a week, sixer fans have been dealing with Iguodala trade talk for like a month already – it’ll be all over soon :)
by jemagee on Feb 4, 2010 11:36 AM MST reply actions
We've been dealing with Amre trade talk
for about 3 years.
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
I think thats the first time this rumored Philly trade has been mentioned by the National Media
I’m not sure if that means its more or less likely to happen.
I am totally not sold on Iggy
with that long term contract…
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by Seth Pollack on Feb 4, 2010 12:15 PM MST up reply actions
His contract is bad.
But I do like him as a player. I was listening to G&A yesterday and Tim Legler was on and he was talking about how, as a Philly fan, he definitely does not love Iguodala being on his team. He said at first you think he’s great, but the love affair quickly ends.
The question is what numbers would Jrich put up on that Philly team?
something like 20/5/2 on more efficient shooting than Iggy
His contract isn’t bad unless you expect him to do things he doesn’t do – he’s not going to score 20 points per game, he’s not going to be a sharp shooter from 20 feet or sink a lot of 3’s
He’s going to rebound, defend and put up assists well above league average for his position, he can guard and play the 1-2-3 position very well and has an amazing court vision on the fast break.
He’s paid fine – he’s not paid like a max player – and he’s not a central piece to a franchise
and neither was scottie pippen
by jemagee on Feb 4, 2010 12:50 PM MST up reply actions
I am high on that kid
But he probably will get 20+ on Phoenix he’s averaging 7 boards a game which would definitely be an upgrade, he can do some glass crashing since he’s a big boy like Marion did.
i see iguodala’s contract as a #2 player type contract. i have a hard time picturing a team winning the championship with iguodala as the second best player. for that to happen, we’d need to get a jordan type player to pair with him, and we wont be able to clear enough cap space to get lebron or wade. i see this trade as more of a sidestep than moving than franchise forward in any way.
Banzai!
But seriously though...
Why aren’t there more pictures of Heidi Klum?
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
by rsavaj on Feb 4, 2010 11:47 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
+1
i think we should have the site name changed to bright side of the Klum. Although i suppose with Heidi Klum, every side is a bright side.
but
she’s on Project Runway which gives her crossover appeal…
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by Seth Pollack on Feb 4, 2010 12:16 PM MST up reply actions
I definitely prefer my women to have more curves. Scarlett Johannsen, Kate Winslet, Kim Kardashian, Selma Hayek, etc.
hmmmm
sounds like we need some kind of bracket type contest for this..
Any volunteers to coordinate?
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by Seth Pollack on Feb 4, 2010 12:20 PM MST up reply actions
and speaking of brackets
who’s in for a March Madness type bracket pool contest deal?
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by Seth Pollack on Feb 4, 2010 12:21 PM MST up reply actions
ok maybe you are the only one...
I would be ok if you told me that she is not your favorite and you prefer so and so but to say she is not cute is just gay.
Or maybe you just meant to say that she isn’t very cute… she is smoking hot.
GREG MONROE
This guy is going to be great. Absolutely amazing. I think he will become one of the best big men in the NBA once he realizes his full potential (which he is already doing at an incredible rate). I’m a student at Georgetown so Ive had multiple chances to watch him play live. His post moves are SICK and his passing skills are perhaps the most impressive part of his game. And he’s only a college sophomore. Needless to say, I would love to have him become a Sun. But how would that affect Lopez? I think Monroe needs to come into the NBA and be a starter immediately in order to best develop his skills. Right now Lopez is just playing too darn well for us to try and take another “star” center. Of course, this is all assuming we even get a first round pick this year.
he plays center
at least on our team. Julian Vaughn is our PF. but if Monroe could learn the PF position in the NBA….well then I would like him quite nicely on our team.
he's only 6'10 or so right?
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
It is getting kind of old. However, I still believe Amar’e will be traded this year. Even if our team goes on a 7+ game winning streak going into the all-star break, Amar’e still gets traded. He’s been playing well as of recent and the better he plays the more teams are going to want him and the more I’m going to miss him when he’s gone.
I do believe Philly is a realistic destination for Amar’e. Iggy is the best player we could get back for Amar’e in any deal. 12m$ for 5 years is a bad contract for Iggy, but at least he can’t ask for more until he’s 31. I think he would fit great in this system. He is very similar to one of my favorites of all time, Scottie Pippen. Of course he isn’t as good, but is still a top 5 SG and SF in the league. He may be streaky with his shot like J-Rich, but he is a better rebounder and a really good defender from what I hear. He is also a good play-maker and we could use another one of those besides Nash.
As for Sam, although he would be here for only a few months he is a better rebounder and defender than Amar’e and can still help us. Barbosa is probably the other guy to get traded with Amar’e(sadly) in order to make the contracts work. If we get Speights or a 1st round pick than thats a plus. Nothing will happen until the deadline though, so expect things to quite down.
Dalembert would be here all of next year, too.
Though I’m positive he’d be traded by next year’s trade deadline, as an expiring contract. Regardless of whether or not we trade Amare at the deadline for a guy like Dalembert, or he opts in, we’ll be major players at next year’s trade deadline, when getting money off the books will be even more important going into the new CBA.
I agree but
He probably wouldn’t play the wing when Nash is out, we can use him to create like a poor mans Lebron
I think he’s more underrated than JJ. People still say JJ is underrated, but because of a lot of people still say that it only makes him overrated. Everybody forgets about Iggy.
Top 5 SG’s
1.Kobe
2. Wade
3. Iggy
4. Roy
5. JJ
I think Roy is a bit overrated.
Top 5 SF’s
1. Lebron
2. Carmelo
3. Durant
4. Iggy
5. Gerald Wallace
Sorry Peirce, but not anymore.
He’s in the top 5 of all my lists.
I suppose you are right
He needs to shoot better than 42% though. Roy is for sure better than Iggy though.
Actually, you’ll find vociferous defense of Iguodal as being at least as good as roy (if not better) if you look past the points and look at usage and over all contribution tto the team (including ont he defensive end of the court) – Roy requires the ball an awful lot…and a lot of the roy praise is based on national media hype versus anything else.
Lots of players get ‘leeway’ because of their pre season hype, or coming into a team with no talent – Iguodala came to a team with a still in his prime Iverson, he started from day one, but he wasn’t putting up ‘gaudy numbers’ to draw attention but still was doing it all
PS – check out the ages of Iguodala and Roy
by jemagee on Feb 4, 2010 2:20 PM MST up reply actions
True dat plus Phillly has sucked for a long time
And thus they get no coverage on the national level.
They have made the NBA finals more recently than both Phoenix and Portland
I’m just saying :)
by jemagee on Feb 4, 2010 2:32 PM MST up reply actions
It just seems like it because the East has sucked for a long time. They have made the playoffs for the majority of the 2000’s and did make the Finals in 01. They weren’t that great for the majority of the 90’s, but they were great in the 80’s.
Yeah the east doesn't suck
a team from the east has made the finals every single year.
I know I’m just saying not many people have seen Iggy play Portland is on National TV at least once a week
Well yeah, but again, is that because of talent and accomplishment or because of hype and drafting Greg Oden?:)
by jemagee on Feb 4, 2010 2:57 PM MST up reply actions
I take Roy and JJ over Iggy any day
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
It depends on ow you evaluate your players – if you only look at the points – then now he’s probably not a top 5 wing player – but when you take his entire game into account – he’s a pippen next to the right jordan…like Lebron
by jemagee on Feb 4, 2010 1:47 PM MST up reply actions
I don’t just look at points. He brings a whole lot to the table than most guys which is why I consider him in the top 5 for both those positions. If we do trade Amar’e he’s the guy I would want to get in return.
Why do we have to trade Amare to get him?
If I understand the cap correctly you can make a trade within 25% of the salary you get in return.
JRich + Barbs = 18M
Iggy + Dally = 24M
Trade Dally in the offseason (for nothing who cares)
You save some $$$ after this season,
And resign Amare and make a push this season and next.
Because comcast is selling ‘talent’ for Iguodala
No offense to Rich and Barbosa – but that’s a sever talent imbalance (and check out Dalembert recently, eh’s actually been earning his money for the past month or so)
That’s the kind of trade that would make the sixers lose most of their remaining fans and i’d call the Philadelphia police to check for roofies in the blood stream of Ed Stefanski supplied by Steve Kerr
by jemagee on Feb 4, 2010 2:06 PM MST up reply actions
I know I'm just saying how desperate are they to cut their payroll?
It sounds to me like they are willing to do just about anything to save some $$. Richardson and Barbs would more than make up for their offensive losses.
They would still have their beloved Allen Iverson.
The only problem with this trade is that Phoenix may not want to take on the extra $$ this season…
I think they’re desperate, I don’t think they’re stupid.
There’s a difference, and supposedly other teams (Sacto) are interested in Sam…if the sixers can flip him by himself, they don’t need to trade Iguodala at all.
Not to mention – the same question applies to the suns – how desperate should they be to trade Amare (his spin inducing interview yesterday not withstanding)
by jemagee on Feb 4, 2010 2:21 PM MST up reply actions
Hey man I don't think it will happen
But I’m just saying its POSSIBLE to win a championship this season if Philly gets desperate enough.
With the way the suns rebound, and iguodala would help – but who knows how much – i don’t think it’s possible to win a championship
by jemagee on Feb 4, 2010 2:32 PM MST up reply actions
Defense/rebounding wins championships
I know nothing about the suns defense but when the only team reboudning worse than you is GSW you have to worry
by jemagee on Feb 4, 2010 2:57 PM MST up reply actions
Jersey Shore is considered a cultural phenomenon? We're doomed.
"Swimming is not a sport. Swimming is a way to keep from drowning. That’s just common sense! "-George Carlin
Well Said
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Perhaps they have, but most of it would be rumors. Teams have to realize that if they don’t give equal value than they don’t get Amar’e because if we don’t get equal value back than we might as well just let him walk. I’ve heard some ridiculous rumors like Peja for Amar’e straight up. Yea right, we might as well just let him walk!
IS what you ‘hear’ more than what the rest of the world can read on various web sites?
The trade deadline is 2 weeks away – of course the issues are trash now, you start a negotiation out low balling and move up from there…hoping you can get lucky.
Deals for Iguodala are weak now too – as the deadline appraoches – deals would improve as well I bet
by jemagee on Feb 4, 2010 2:58 PM MST up reply actions
There's more smoke today
around the Amare to 76ers for Iggy/Daly via our buddy Chad Ford (Insider):
While there are a lot of deals the Suns wouldn’t do, this is one in which they’re interested. It’s the Sixers that are holding up the process, I’m told. While nothing’s imminent, if Philadelphia GM Ed Stefanski sees an opportunity to unload Dalembert and thinks Stoudemire is the best player he can get, things could get hot quickly.
I don’t have the heart/motivation to do yet another post on this right now. You guys have talked this to death already right? No need for another post on this today?
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someone should do a solid
Iggy vs JRich comparison using stats and what not…
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Richarson is a better shooter
Iguodala is a better rebounder, passer, ball handler and defender
Statistically speaking (he can also play the 1-2-3) :)
by jemagee on Feb 4, 2010 3:21 PM MST up reply actions
ask and ye shall receive
I’m on it
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
liberty ballers has a nice analysis of this already.
always fun to beat a dead horse.
Amare’s comments about not opting out are rumored to complicate things because (as I thought) the sixers want him to walk and sign/trade with someone else – they don’t want to pay him next year
by jemagee on Feb 4, 2010 3:35 PM MST up reply actions
I am sure this has been said before...
I am sick of the trade talks but the more important question is:
Why aren’t there more pictures of Heidi Klum?!!!
Mostly I am sick of it because...
As much as I would hate to lose Amare for nothing which it is very likely at this point, I don’t see any trade I like. Maybe the Nets trade if we get a 1st round pick but then this season is over and I would hate that, plus I like Nash too much to take away one of his main weapons. I think we let it play out. Offer Amare a decent contract NOT THE MAX and if he doesn’t then try to convince him to stay one more year since he will be a lot cheaper with the new agreement. If he doesn’t take it then we go from there and use the cap relieve (limited) and try to see if we can get Lee at a lower price which I think we could since a lot of players like to play in Phoenix and would love to play with Nash.

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