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Daily Poll: Are you Sick of Amare Talk Yet?

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This is an unfortunate photo. Shame on that photog for pushing this out to the AP and shame on the editors that publish it. Shame. Shame. Shame.

It's starting to get old isn't it. Scratch that. It got old a few days ago and yet like Pants on the Ground you just can't look away. One is the most culturally significant event to sweep the nation since Jersey Shore and the other is only the single most important decision the Phoenix Suns will make in the next 12 years (m.o.e. +/- 11 yrs).

So today's question is: Are you done yet?

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Are you sick of the Amare trade talk yet?
Hell yes. I can't wait for it to end
191 votes
This is the best part of the season! I will miss it when it's gone
37 votes
Why aren't there more pictures of Heidi Klum?
115 votes

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When the rumors first start, it’s fun, and right before the deadline, it’s even more fun, but right now when there’s no chance of anything happening and talk has kind of slowed down, it gets pretty old.

by jburning on Feb 4, 2010 11:31 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

+1

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Feb 4, 2010 2:48 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

The Del Harris link made me think of Devin Harris first

Since it just says Harris in the headlines. I was thinking "What the hell? Did I miss Devin Harris going apeshit at his team?

by Willman on Feb 4, 2010 11:34 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

I thought the same thing

at first…couldn’t blame Devin though. Yikes

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by Seth Pollack on Feb 4, 2010 11:39 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

HAHA

It just makes me think… Which of the 2 Lopez twins really got the short stick in the Draft… hint hint – it wasn’t Robin.

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Feb 4, 2010 2:49 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh come on – it’s only been a week, sixer fans have been dealing with Iguodala trade talk for like a month already – it’ll be all over soon :)

by jemagee on Feb 4, 2010 11:36 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

We've been dealing with Amre trade talk

for about 3 years.

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Feb 4, 2010 2:50 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I am totally not sold on Iggy

with that long term contract…

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by Seth Pollack on Feb 4, 2010 12:15 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

His contract is bad.

But I do like him as a player. I was listening to G&A yesterday and Tim Legler was on and he was talking about how, as a Philly fan, he definitely does not love Iguodala being on his team. He said at first you think he’s great, but the love affair quickly ends.

by jburning on Feb 4, 2010 12:17 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

The question is what numbers would Jrich put up on that Philly team?

something like 20/5/2 on more efficient shooting than Iggy

by bradley281 on Feb 4, 2010 12:48 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

His contract isn’t bad unless you expect him to do things he doesn’t do – he’s not going to score 20 points per game, he’s not going to be a sharp shooter from 20 feet or sink a lot of 3’s

He’s going to rebound, defend and put up assists well above league average for his position, he can guard and play the 1-2-3 position very well and has an amazing court vision on the fast break.

He’s paid fine – he’s not paid like a max player – and he’s not a central piece to a franchise

and neither was scottie pippen

by jemagee on Feb 4, 2010 12:50 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I am high on that kid

But he probably will get 20+ on Phoenix he’s averaging 7 boards a game which would definitely be an upgrade, he can do some glass crashing since he’s a big boy like Marion did.

by SSOHOWARD on Feb 4, 2010 1:31 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

i see iguodala’s contract as a #2 player type contract. i have a hard time picturing a team winning the championship with iguodala as the second best player. for that to happen, we’d need to get a jordan type player to pair with him, and we wont be able to clear enough cap space to get lebron or wade. i see this trade as more of a sidestep than moving than franchise forward in any way.

Banzai!

by Suns' Sensei on Feb 4, 2010 7:51 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

But seriously though...

Why aren’t there more pictures of Heidi Klum?

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Feb 4, 2010 11:47 AM MST reply actions   1 recs

+1

i think we should have the site name changed to bright side of the Klum. Although i suppose with Heidi Klum, every side is a bright side.

by DaveJD on Feb 4, 2010 12:12 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

but

she’s on Project Runway which gives her crossover appeal…

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by Seth Pollack on Feb 4, 2010 12:16 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I definitely prefer my women to have more curves. Scarlett Johannsen, Kate Winslet, Kim Kardashian, Selma Hayek, etc.

by jburning on Feb 4, 2010 12:19 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

hmmmm

sounds like we need some kind of bracket type contest for this..

Any volunteers to coordinate?

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by Seth Pollack on Feb 4, 2010 12:20 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

and speaking of brackets

who’s in for a March Madness type bracket pool contest deal?

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by Seth Pollack on Feb 4, 2010 12:21 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

ok maybe you are the only one...

I would be ok if you told me that she is not your favorite and you prefer so and so but to say she is not cute is just gay.

Or maybe you just meant to say that she isn’t very cute… she is smoking hot.

by jvvenez on Feb 5, 2010 10:39 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

She's kinda cute.

But there are many women who I’d prefer to her.

by jburning on Feb 5, 2010 10:41 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

GREG MONROE

This guy is going to be great. Absolutely amazing. I think he will become one of the best big men in the NBA once he realizes his full potential (which he is already doing at an incredible rate). I’m a student at Georgetown so Ive had multiple chances to watch him play live. His post moves are SICK and his passing skills are perhaps the most impressive part of his game. And he’s only a college sophomore. Needless to say, I would love to have him become a Sun. But how would that affect Lopez? I think Monroe needs to come into the NBA and be a starter immediately in order to best develop his skills. Right now Lopez is just playing too darn well for us to try and take another “star” center. Of course, this is all assuming we even get a first round pick this year.

by yanyanman2 on Feb 4, 2010 12:33 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

he plays center

at least on our team. Julian Vaughn is our PF. but if Monroe could learn the PF position in the NBA….well then I would like him quite nicely on our team.

by yanyanman2 on Feb 4, 2010 1:56 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

he's only 6'10 or so right?

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Feb 4, 2010 2:52 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah -

But max his range is 18 feet or so, he’s really fundamentally solid though

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Feb 4, 2010 3:10 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

It is getting kind of old. However, I still believe Amar’e will be traded this year. Even if our team goes on a 7+ game winning streak going into the all-star break, Amar’e still gets traded. He’s been playing well as of recent and the better he plays the more teams are going to want him and the more I’m going to miss him when he’s gone.

 I do believe Philly is a realistic destination for Amar’e. Iggy is the best player we could get back for Amar’e in any deal. 12m$ for 5 years is a bad contract for Iggy, but at least he can’t ask for more until he’s 31. I think he would fit great in this system. He is very similar to one of my favorites of all time, Scottie Pippen. Of course he isn’t as good, but is still a top 5 SG and SF in the league. He may be streaky with his shot like J-Rich, but he is a better rebounder and a really good defender from what I hear. He is also a good play-maker and we could use another one of those besides Nash.

 As for Sam, although he would be here for only a few months he is a better rebounder and defender than Amar’e and can still help us. Barbosa is probably the other guy to get traded with Amar’e(sadly) in order to make the contracts work. If we get Speights or a 1st round pick than thats a plus. Nothing will happen until the deadline though, so expect things to quite down.

by Beavis 25 on Feb 4, 2010 1:03 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Dalembert would be here all of next year, too.

Though I’m positive he’d be traded by next year’s trade deadline, as an expiring contract. Regardless of whether or not we trade Amare at the deadline for a guy like Dalembert, or he opts in, we’ll be major players at next year’s trade deadline, when getting money off the books will be even more important going into the new CBA.

by jburning on Feb 4, 2010 1:08 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree but

He probably wouldn’t play the wing when Nash is out, we can use him to create like a poor mans Lebron

by SSOHOWARD on Feb 4, 2010 1:40 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I think he’s more underrated than JJ. People still say JJ is underrated, but because of a lot of people still say that it only makes him overrated. Everybody forgets about Iggy.

Top 5 SG’s
1.Kobe
2. Wade
3. Iggy
4. Roy
5. JJ
I think Roy is a bit overrated.

Top 5 SF’s
1. Lebron
2. Carmelo
3. Durant
4. Iggy
5. Gerald Wallace
Sorry Peirce, but not anymore.

He’s in the top 5 of all my lists.

by Beavis 25 on Feb 4, 2010 1:44 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I suppose you are right

He needs to shoot better than 42% though. Roy is for sure better than Iggy though.

by Superelkman on Feb 4, 2010 1:58 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Yea, I take that back. Roy is better than Iggy, but I still have him above JJ.

by Beavis 25 on Feb 4, 2010 2:14 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Actually, you’ll find vociferous defense of Iguodal as being at least as good as roy (if not better) if you look past the points and look at usage and over all contribution tto the team (including ont he defensive end of the court) – Roy requires the ball an awful lot…and a lot of the roy praise is based on national media hype versus anything else.

Lots of players get ‘leeway’ because of their pre season hype, or coming into a team with no talent – Iguodala came to a team with a still in his prime Iverson, he started from day one, but he wasn’t putting up ‘gaudy numbers’ to draw attention but still was doing it all

PS – check out the ages of Iguodala and Roy

by jemagee on Feb 4, 2010 2:20 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

True dat plus Phillly has sucked for a long time

And thus they get no coverage on the national level.

by SSOHOWARD on Feb 4, 2010 2:24 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

They have made the NBA finals more recently than both Phoenix and Portland

I’m just saying :)

by jemagee on Feb 4, 2010 2:32 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

haha

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Feb 4, 2010 2:54 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

It just seems like it because the East has sucked for a long time. They have made the playoffs for the majority of the 2000’s and did make the Finals in 01. They weren’t that great for the majority of the 90’s, but they were great in the 80’s.

by Beavis 25 on Feb 4, 2010 2:36 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah the east doesn't suck

a team from the east has made the finals every single year.

by DaveJD on Feb 4, 2010 2:41 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

+1

LOL

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Feb 4, 2010 2:54 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I know I’m just saying not many people have seen Iggy play Portland is on National TV at least once a week

by SSOHOWARD on Feb 4, 2010 2:42 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Well yeah, but again, is that because of talent and accomplishment or because of hype and drafting Greg Oden?:)

by jemagee on Feb 4, 2010 2:57 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I take Roy and JJ over Iggy any day

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Feb 4, 2010 9:09 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

It depends on ow you evaluate your players – if you only look at the points – then now he’s probably not a top 5 wing player – but when you take his entire game into account – he’s a pippen next to the right jordan…like Lebron

by jemagee on Feb 4, 2010 1:47 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t just look at points. He brings a whole lot to the table than most guys which is why I consider him in the top 5 for both those positions. If we do trade Amar’e he’s the guy I would want to get in return.

by Beavis 25 on Feb 4, 2010 1:52 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Why do we have to trade Amare to get him?

If I understand the cap correctly you can make a trade within 25% of the salary you get in return.

JRich + Barbs = 18M

Iggy + Dally = 24M

Trade Dally in the offseason (for nothing who cares)

You save some $$$ after this season,

And resign Amare and make a push this season and next.

by SSOHOWARD on Feb 4, 2010 2:00 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I would hope for that too, but its a long shot from happening.

by Beavis 25 on Feb 4, 2010 2:03 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Because comcast is selling ‘talent’ for Iguodala

No offense to Rich and Barbosa – but that’s a sever talent imbalance (and check out Dalembert recently, eh’s actually been earning his money for the past month or so)

That’s the kind of trade that would make the sixers lose most of their remaining fans and i’d call the Philadelphia police to check for roofies in the blood stream of Ed Stefanski supplied by Steve Kerr

by jemagee on Feb 4, 2010 2:06 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

True, I’ve always wanted Iggy on this team even before the rumors started, but the only way we have a shot at him is by giving up Amar’e. Amar’e and Barbosa for Iggy and Sam is a fair deal in my eyes. I’d be surprised yet ecstatic if Kerr some how got Speights or a 1st round pick as well.

by Beavis 25 on Feb 4, 2010 2:11 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I know I'm just saying how desperate are they to cut their payroll?

It sounds to me like they are willing to do just about anything to save some $$. Richardson and Barbs would more than make up for their offensive losses.

They would still have their beloved Allen Iverson.

The only problem with this trade is that Phoenix may not want to take on the extra $$ this season…

by SSOHOWARD on Feb 4, 2010 2:15 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I think they’re desperate, I don’t think they’re stupid.

There’s a difference, and supposedly other teams (Sacto) are interested in Sam…if the sixers can flip him by himself, they don’t need to trade Iguodala at all.

Not to mention – the same question applies to the suns – how desperate should they be to trade Amare (his spin inducing interview yesterday not withstanding)

by jemagee on Feb 4, 2010 2:21 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Hey man I don't think it will happen

But I’m just saying its POSSIBLE to win a championship this season if Philly gets desperate enough.

by SSOHOWARD on Feb 4, 2010 2:23 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

With the way the suns rebound, and iguodala would help – but who knows how much – i don’t think it’s possible to win a championship

by jemagee on Feb 4, 2010 2:32 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

If we could keep Amare

I dunno man we would be completely stacked

by SSOHOWARD on Feb 4, 2010 2:38 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Defense/rebounding wins championships

I know nothing about the suns defense but when the only team reboudning worse than you is GSW you have to worry

by jemagee on Feb 4, 2010 2:57 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Jersey Shore is considered a cultural phenomenon? We're doomed.

"Swimming is not a sport. Swimming is a way to keep from drowning. That’s just common sense! "-George Carlin

by Diosnomeama on Feb 4, 2010 1:23 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Well Said

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Feb 4, 2010 9:09 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I’m not tired of it, but I have nothing to say.

by species8473 on Feb 4, 2010 1:33 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

from what i hear

the suns have only recieved “trash” offers for amare.

by blank_38 on Feb 4, 2010 2:39 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Perhaps they have, but most of it would be rumors. Teams have to realize that if they don’t give equal value than they don’t get Amar’e because if we don’t get equal value back than we might as well just let him walk. I’ve heard some ridiculous rumors like Peja for Amar’e straight up. Yea right, we might as well just let him walk!

by Beavis 25 on Feb 4, 2010 2:42 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

We aren’t going to give Amar’e for nothing like we did with Shaq. Kerr said he will only accept a deal if he believes it make us better. I can’t wait until the deadline to see what happens. There is a chance that Amar’e stays, but I still predict a trade.

by Beavis 25 on Feb 4, 2010 2:47 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

IS what you ‘hear’ more than what the rest of the world can read on various web sites?

The trade deadline is 2 weeks away – of course the issues are trash now, you start a negotiation out low balling and move up from there…hoping you can get lucky.

Deals for Iguodala are weak now too – as the deadline appraoches – deals would improve as well I bet

by jemagee on Feb 4, 2010 2:58 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

There's more smoke today

around the Amare to 76ers for Iggy/Daly via our buddy Chad Ford (Insider):

While there are a lot of deals the Suns wouldn’t do, this is one in which they’re interested. It’s the Sixers that are holding up the process, I’m told. While nothing’s imminent, if Philadelphia GM Ed Stefanski sees an opportunity to unload Dalembert and thinks Stoudemire is the best player he can get, things could get hot quickly.

I don’t have the heart/motivation to do yet another post on this right now. You guys have talked this to death already right? No need for another post on this today?

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by Seth Pollack on Feb 4, 2010 3:14 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

someone should do a solid

Iggy vs JRich comparison using stats and what not…

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by Seth Pollack on Feb 4, 2010 3:16 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Richarson is a better shooter

Iguodala is a better rebounder, passer, ball handler and defender

Statistically speaking (he can also play the 1-2-3) :)

by jemagee on Feb 4, 2010 3:21 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

ask and ye shall receive

I’m on it

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Feb 4, 2010 3:36 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Amare’s comments about not opting out are rumored to complicate things because (as I thought) the sixers want him to walk and sign/trade with someone else – they don’t want to pay him next year

by jemagee on Feb 4, 2010 3:35 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Let’s imagine.finally Stat is traded to another team. Which players can we get in return? In the best case: Yi from NJ, Beasley from Miami, Iggy from Phily, Butler from Wash. None of them is a superstar to rebuild a team around him.

This season the Suns have proven they can be a good team, they can compete against any team and can achieve the PO. All you need is some small change.in one or two players (JRich and Barbosa). Now we have 2 AllStar (Stat and Nash), 1 player from a good level (JRich) and a good handful of role players.

If Stat is finally traded, next season we’ll just have an AllStar (Nash) and a bunch of role players. And in just two seasons we’ll have a lot of good players but not a single AllStar player.

But sure we will be under the luxury tax.

If finally we trade Stat, what will be our main goal in the 2012-2013 season when Nash is no longer on the team? Who will be at that time the leader of the team? All teams need a leader, a franchise player. I think the only exception is the Rockets of the current season.

My opinion is this: we must resign Stat. Thus, in the 2012-2013 season (without Nash on the team) we will have an AllStar player on the team; we will also have 4-5 young players perfectly integrated in the team (Dragic, Robin Dudley, Lou, Clark; we will have our own draft picks and we will have enough salary relief to try to sign some players.

If we trade Stat to Phily and get Iggy in return, we will have too many SG but only a PF (Frye). This forces us to try to trade JRich or Barbosa; sounds complicated.

If we trade Stat to Miami and get Beasley in return is a change of players playing the same position. Sounds logical.

by matrix7 on Feb 4, 2010 3:49 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

The suns are in the ‘better’ position in that you already have a super star – aging no doubt but still near the top of his game.

Calling Iguodala a role player is kind of insulting…is everyone who isn’t a super star a role player?

by jemagee on Feb 4, 2010 3:52 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I think a lot of us

here are developing a bad habit of under appreciating players given this whole Stoudemire ordeal and the Love-Hate relationship I wrote about… Now all of a sudden everyone is super conscious of how much each player makes and if he’s really worth $16-17M – it’s getting out of hand.

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Feb 4, 2010 4:01 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Money matters

Not b/c of the money. Who cares, right? We aren’t signing the checks. But the more money one player gets the less there is for other players.

Teams have to be very wise in how they distribute their money. Look at all the bad contracts out there. They are all on bad teams. Redd (not his fault). Arenas. Brand…

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by Seth Pollack on Feb 4, 2010 4:13 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

right. if you look at the highest paid 30 players in the NBA right now, you can make a case for about 1/3 of them playing up to their contract. the other 20 have contracts that make it very hard for the GM to build a championship together. if a team makes a mistake with a contract this big, it could be screwed for the next 5-10 years.

Banzai!

by Suns' Sensei on Feb 5, 2010 1:03 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Hey – I know the story – trust me – as soon as Iguodala went from rookie contract to free agent contract the expectations from him went out of hand…he’s making 5 times as much money he should be 5 times better :)

My counter argument is that for the first years he was grossly under paid

by jemagee on Feb 4, 2010 4:16 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

You have not understood what I said, or it may be that I didn’t have explained correctly.

I speak of a general situation without specifying names

I didn’t call Iguodala “role player”. I just mean not having Stat and not knowing which players would get in return

by matrix7 on Feb 5, 2010 12:24 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I am sure this has been said before...

I am sick of the trade talks but the more important question is:

Why aren’t there more pictures of Heidi Klum?!!!

by jvvenez on Feb 5, 2010 10:24 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

Mostly I am sick of it because...

As much as I would hate to lose Amare for nothing which it is very likely at this point, I don’t see any trade I like. Maybe the Nets trade if we get a 1st round pick but then this season is over and I would hate that, plus I like Nash too much to take away one of his main weapons. I think we let it play out. Offer Amare a decent contract NOT THE MAX and if he doesn’t then try to convince him to stay one more year since he will be a lot cheaper with the new agreement. If he doesn’t take it then we go from there and use the cap relieve (limited) and try to see if we can get Lee at a lower price which I think we could since a lot of players like to play in Phoenix and would love to play with Nash.

by jvvenez on Feb 5, 2010 10:29 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

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