How would Andre Iguodala fit with the Phoenix Suns?

I think the Suns lineup is now Nash-J-Rich-Iggy-Frye-Dalembert.
J-Rich can handle the increased scoring load – matter of fact, look at the Sun’s record when J-Rich scores over thirty. Iggy’s production would go up playing with Nash. Most importantly, Dalembert would give the Suns their best defensive post presence since . . . . a long, long time. He’s not a great player, but would be a perfect fit in the Suns – an athletic player who can run the floor, and protect the rim (finally!).
The Suns second unit? Dragic-Dudley-Hill-Amundson-Lopez. The suns might become the deepest team in the NBA! Two legit units!
Easily the best defensive team in the Run and Gun era

Good point on the 3p%. I think because of this Iggy would start at the 3 with Hill backing him up and Dudley backing up J-Rich. This means less minutes for those guys, but with Iggy’s defensive presence we don’t need to see a lot of Hill or Dudley.

 Dalembert would start in Amare’s place, but he wouldn’t get as many minutes as Amare did. The only person really missing out is Clark, but he hasn’t earned anything yet anyway.

Back to Iggy, his playmaking ability can really help us out, so Nash doesn’t have to do everything. You forgot to mention that he just turned 26 and is very athletic, healthy and is a good finisher on the fast break.

He has comparisons to Marion and Diaw. I would expect his role would be similar to Marion. The best player to compare him to would be Scottie Pippen. I think the Suns could use a player like that.

Phoenix is one of several teams that have interest in Iguodala. One of the big teams that want him that I would truly hate to see get Iggy is Cleveland. If the Cavaliers get Iguodala, it’s basically over. It’ll probably be Ilgauskas getting shipped over to Philly with another player for Iggy and possibly Dalembert. I’m just saying that if Philly were to trade Iguodala to the Cavs, you’ll have your Jordan/Pippen combo there. LeBron will be Jordan and Iggy as Pippen. Only Iggy will start at the 2. Either way, Cavaliers acquiring Iggy would be like another Gasol trade since they won’t be offering up much. They’re loaded from head to toe with plenty of shooters and big men. They just need a legit shooting guard. If Phoenix were to pull off a trade, this is the one. Nothing else looks promising.

I’ve even heard that defensively, Andre Iguodala is like Ron Artest without the stupidity and mental illness.

lets trade for iggy

Dalembert finished eighth among centers in blocks per minute and fourth in both defensive rebound rate and overall rebound rate.

Everyone seems to like Dalembert, and I suppose I do too; but since his skills would be superfluous on the Suns (duplicated by Robin Lopez), I think Elton Brand should be considered. I’m not sure he belongs on the Suns, but position-wise, he fits in the trade and Dalembert does not.

Ehh. If Brand can play, I don’t really care that he’s 31. And I know he makes less a year than Stoudemire.

Well we have to remember that the main pieces of this deal are Amar’e and Iggy. Barbosa and Sam would be the throw in’s. Sam won’t be in our long term plans. He’d be here for the rest of the season and possibly half of next. We’d try to replace him with an inside scoring PF. I see that where he fits in our rotation is kind of iffy and may even cause us a log jam and hurt us offensively, but it would only be for a while. The main part of this deal is Iggy.

 If we let Amar’e walk than we get nothing and won’t be able to get a good free agent in return. We have to get good value back and out of all the players Iggy is that guy. He’s the best possible player we could get back for Amar’e. He would be with us for long term, but thats the plan. He would replace Hill in the rotation when he’s gone and he could take pressure off of Nash on both the offensive and defensive ends. I can see him fitting in very well with this team.

For those who think there won’t be space for Nash to operate (crowded post), they are wrong; Frye at PF Dal at Center just spaces the floor as before.
As for the bench, Dragic-Lopez have been creating their own version of Nash-Amar’e pick & roll.
Seriously, i don’t really see a down side, yes we lose 21 points from Amare and replaces it with probably 16-18 from Iggy and may be 13-14 from Dalembert, we get better D. rebound, and steals. I say “FREAKING DO THE TRADE NOW”

Athletic Big Man that can finish consistently don’t come cheap…I’d rather try to sign Amare to a long term at fair market value than get less than equal value. Options I’d like to explore are a three team deal for Amare & JRich that would net us Carl Landry or J.J. Hickson and AI2.

Much as people don’t wan’t to believe it.. Channing Frye is not a consistent starting player (Complimentary player, yes, but not a quality starting 4 or 5). We will need a young big to plug in at the 4 if Amare goes, not more ad hoc stuff that the Suns keep trying…

I guess I’ll preface this by saying I’m a huge STAT fan and want the Suns to retain him, so I’m biased against almost any deal. That said, trading him for Iggy & S.D. isn’t in PHX’s favor, IMO. With RoLo’s continued improvement I’d hate for Sam to come in and take away some of him minutes…stunting his growth in the process. We’d have no real frontcourt scoring as Lopez would be our best option on the block (not exactly inciting fear in our opponents) and Frye seems scared to occupy the paint. We could use Iggy’s perimeter d and his slashing ability on offense but I think we’d lose more than we’ll gain…

Not sure if this helps you stop caring or not but a rumor floating today has the mavs willing to take on Elton Brand to get Iguodala – if the sixers can shed Brand over Dalembert with Iguodala, I personally feel it’s a deal they HAVE to make…that brand contract is just a killer for the roster…bad or not is irrelevant, his age and career arc will not fit the rest of the roster if Iguodala is gone, and he lasts a lot longer on the books than Sam (obviously) in my opinion.

Is why people keep calling Amare a “post scorer” or bemoaning this trade because we lose “post scoring”.
How often does Amare really operate out of the block? He is the most effective at the elbow, where he can drive or shoot, or on the pick and roll with Nash.
He is not some huge post presence we will miss, he’s not legit “frontcourt” scoring. We’ve seen Lopez finish on these pick and rolls. Frye is every bit the shooter Amare is. And Igoudala actually finishes (statistically) waaaaay better around the rim than Amare.
I don’t understand this objection at all

interesting to find out what the Suns actually end up offering Amare to stay….

Really, until we learn that we can’t know if the Suns never really wanted him to stay or if Amare was simply determined to try and get more than most people think he deserves.

Although I don’t particularly want Stoudemire to go, I thought that any talk of keeping him was moot as long as he wants too much money.

I believe Amare is worth as much to the Suns as Gasol is to the Lakers…Difference is that Sarver is operating off a tighter budget…We have to factor that in as well

I’d give a player a maximum contract in this situation—if he would let me put a team option on every year so I could get out of the contract if I had to.

You can’t fight the players too hard on salary, they will just bolt to Europe, where the Euro to dollar is strong and they can make a killing.

What about starting both?
Nash-Rich-Iggy-Lopez-Sam…
Other teams can start 2 7footers why cant we? Granted your going to say because of the lack of scoring, but I would put money down if we tried that we wouldnt have a issue scoring. Lopez is young and has upside… he just isn’t needed to score or has never been asked. Will be as good as Amare? NO but would do ehough

And just when he realizes that he’s getting screwed, we pull some “But now you’ll have Rich and Dalmbert coming off your books in 2011” nonsense, get him to agree, then run away cackling with joy?

This is the trade I like most.. but I really think we need to take the gamble and extend Amare to a near max deal.

I heard that why the Philly\Suns deal hasn’t happened yet is because of two reasons.

1. Amare’s recent comments have caused the 76ers to hesitate.

2. The Suns want them to take J-Rich over Barbosa and it is believed the 76ers don’t want to do that because if Amare stays than that breaks what they are trying to financial wise. That means that they are stuck with huge contracts in Amare and J-Rich.

Now from what Marc Stein said it sounded like the 76ers would still do this deal for Amare if they got Barbosa instead.

STOP ALREADY WITH THIS. YOU ARE NOT GOING TO LOSE HIM TO GET NO INSIDE OFFENSE PRESENCE FOR IT. THAT’S JUST PLAIN STUPID. DALEMBERT HAS NO OFFENSE AND PLAYS DEFENSE, THAT SOUNDS LIKE LOPEZ TO ME (LOPEZ IMPROVING OFF.). YOU WANT IGUA, THEN LET GO JASON AND GRIFFIN AND COLLINS. THOSE ARE THE ONLY PIECES WORTH LETTING GO.(JASON BECAUSE OF CONTRACT ONLY)

I’d love to somehow get Speights in the trade. He could make up for some of the ppg Amar’e puts up.

We trade Amare & j rich 4 iggy and dalembert (and green/ kapono i guess). Now stat would be gone for the year, but he was willing to not opt out w/ phx recently. so, I propose that we resign amare to that contract we were gonna give him. that way, phx would have amare back, with the addition of iggy. So the line-up for the rest of the season would be: Nash-Andre-Hill-Frye-Dalembert. And the 10-11 season would then be: Nash-Andre-Hill-Amare-Lopez. This, in my opinion, would be a steal for PHX and would make them contenders again! : ]