Nothing the Nets have is worth it at this point. Their supposed “youth” will likely not pan out to anything worthwhile.

I get wanting to avoid a “logjam,” but the principle of the deal is that we are trying to rebuild for the next 4-5 years. The Nets would help us out for the short term in that they would provide some cap relief but their pieces don’t fit us. Then, come the summer, who are we going to sign? Now we are missing our main rebounder (sad huh?) and primary scorer in the post.

With the 76ers trade sure we have to deal with personnel issues for half a year but come February of 2011 we are golden with nearly 25mil dollars in expiring contracts. That is HUGE. Nothing we can pull together now is for the short term is worth that. We could grab several 1st round picks for two straight years plus several mid-level players or even a really hot player from a team looking to unload. Imagine next year being able to pick up a Bynum from the Lakers, or a Mayo, or Gay from Memphis, or a Josh Smith because those teams are looking to unload contracts for the summer.

Sorry, as much as a Nets deal might help to develop our youth by way of preventing competing minutes, I prefer Iggy and a ton of prospects that directly equate to 3-5 years of prosperity over ANYTHING the Nets can package right now INCLUDING a 2010 first round pick.

All the increased revenue would give the suns the ability to comfortably be in the luxury tax and sign some very expensive players, if Sarver would play it that way it could provide a lot of freedom financially.

Remember, having the money is only half the equation. There’s no guarantees about anything regarding free agents. What if everyone that fit our needs got locked up in 2010 or now because of the impending CBA? then we got 25 mill to overpay some bum in the future.

I’m not saying we take a crappy deal just to try and win now, but we can’t make assumptions about having money = getting good players. It’s like a bad draft year where you end up taking people you normally wouldn’t even associate with because that’s all there is in the pot.

No trade scenario is going to appease every fan. The problem here is that Kerr and Sarver do not appear — still — to have made up their mind on if they’re going to rebuild or not and if they’re going to rebuild, if Amare is part of that or not. They really need to make a decision and make the proper move.

Half the fans are ready for the rebuild and realize a Philly trade offers the least towards achieving a proper and quick rebuild.

Half the fans want to keep trying for the playoffs and the Philly trade seems like the best return of immediate talent.

I don’t really know whether a 76ers trade is good, but it is the only one that has shown up repeatedly, so there’s probably something going on. I don’t care about the logjams it would create, because that could be solved by another trade. Forget about Earl Clark’s minutes, because he isn’t getting enough anyway, and should possibly go to the D-league. Because Grant Hill is still good whenever he’s not tired, Iguodala should play shooting guard and either replace Jason Richardson or come off the bench.

I accept that he forced it by overvaluing himself, but I’d rather not trade Amare Stoudemire in the first place, because the new players might not work out.

No deal will happen until after the All Star break. So the deal goes down and Amare is gone. They wouldnt want that to happen before the All Stars; they want him to represent their team with pride.

I just noticed that this is a Chad Ford rumor again. Haven’t we agreed that he doesn’t necessarily know what he is talking about?

It’s been hinted at, but I just realized that Steve Kerr probably likes Iguodala because they both went to U of A. I wonder if Iguodala would like to return to Arizona.

This is from Tom Moore who is a beat writer for a local philly area paper

An NBA source said the Stoudemire for Iguodala/Dalembert rumor on ESPN.com is an “old story.”

Not shocking, that’s kind of ESPN’s bit.

Since the 76ers’ ownership doesn’t care about anything except saving money, might they let Stoudemire leave for nothing later?

I wouldn’t trade for Samuel Dalembert unless with intent to trade him ASAP, because, as Mr. Pollack notes, the Suns don’t need Samuel Dalembert. Robin Lopez is playing probably as well as Dalembert right now, is the Suns’ best center since Mark West (unless you count Cliff Robinson as a center—I don’t), and could become one of the NBA’s best young centers is he keeps playing this well. I’d rather take a chance that the Suns medical staff can rehab Elton Brand and that he wouldn’t fit in as poorly as Shaquille O’Neal did.

I heard of this deal a while back(about a week or two ago). One of my friends knows somebody with inside sources to the team and stated that the 76ers is a very huge possibility.

The goal of our front office is to make the team better while thinking long term at the same time. Kerr has stated this. This is also the reason why we won’t trade for a good player like Jamison who would be perfect in our system; because he’s too old. We want proven good youth and expiring contracts in return.

I believe the 76ers trade is still a possibility although Amare’s recent comments can stall this deal or keep it from happening. I’m not worried about the logjam in the rotation. Hill should be getting less minutes as it is and so should J-Rich. Clark hasn’t proven anything to earn minutes this season.

Here’s what the rotation would look like for the rest of this year.

PG Nash/Dragic
SG Iggy/J-Rich
SF Hill/Dudley
PF Dalembert/Amundson
C Lopez/Fyre

Sam won’t play as many minutes as Amare. J-Rich would really be the only guy who would have to sacrifice a lot of minutes.

If Amare opts out then oh well… we offer him a competative and fair deal but not an outrageous deal. If some stupid ass team wants to come over the top of us then let them overpay for the injury risk and inconsistent player Amare is. He is good but sorry I would rather have him walk and rebuild then have him resign for the max, blow his knee out, and then be held hostage by his contract for years to come. I don’t want this team to turn into the Knicks of a few years ago.

Obviously, if a GOOD trade is there then do it. I don’t care what position the talent comes at but we need to get back something good not just some bullshit. No big expirings, 3 million dollars, and a late first as the centerpieces to the trade. No we’ll give you 3 mid-level players for your really good guy.

Starting to really dislike the same old Amare rhetoric from everyone. Lets talk about possible J-Rich deals, or the game tomorrow night, the Suns playoff chances, Heidi Klum, Marissa Miller, the new Ghostbusters game, how much the Lakers suck balls, or really anything else. Please.

I would argue this trade makes the Suns better immediately, and in the long term.
Short Term – Nash-J-Rich-Igoudala-Frye-Dalembert is a massive improvement defensively. Iggy is massively underrated defensively, every bit the defender Marion was. And Dalembert (while not amazing) might be the perfect 5 for the Suns – a tall, athletic shot blocker who can run the floor and slow down Pau Gasol. I have no doubt that Richardson can pick up the scoring load – he is more than reading to score 20 a game, and I think Iggy can hit that too playing with Nash. The whole offense will move better with a second facilitator like Iggy (that Hill was suppose to be). And what about how stacked the second unit gets??? Gentry can sub in hockey style – Dragic, Dudley, Hill, Amundson and Lopez.
In Iggy,we can finally slow down Kobe, Roy, Paul, D-Will, etc. In Dalembert, we can deter Gasol, Bosh, Bynum, etc. I love it.

Long Term: It kills me to see Barbosa go, but for some reason I feel like he would come back when his contract is up. Anyway, I think this trade is fine long term as well.
Dalembert is only on the hook for this year and next. as is J-Rich. Combined, the Suns would have almost $25 million in expiring contracts going into a summer when teams will be FREAKING OUT about the new CBA. It will put them in an excellent position to pilfer more talent.
After that, Lopez can fit right back into the 5 slot. I know Iggy can play four, but he is more than athletic and smart enough to play 2. Why not play Clark next to Iggy? Or even have Iggy at the 3 and put Clark in the Matrix/Odom role at the 4? Their length and movement would be devastating together. Yes, Iggy is getting paid a bit much, but $12 millon dollar contracts don’t sink teams. $17 million dollar contracts for under-achieving, reconstructed knee power forwards sink franchises

Then Iggy starts at the 2, Grant keeps his spot, etc.