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Phoenix Suns Practice Report: Where Steve Kerr Talks...

Steve Kerr talking to my hand at media day in October. Today he talked to the assembled hordes about what the Suns might or might not do this trade deadline. Except he didn't really say too much. (Photo by Max Simbron)

Well, it's not like he said nothing.

He did tell some fun stories about being in the three-point contest (four times), he talked about how well the Suns are playing, he said that this time of year there's lots of phone calls between GMs where nothing gets offered and then, when asked about Amare's situation, he said, "I'm not going to talk about any contract situation or financial situation as it relates to our players."

Then he was asked if he was meeting with Amare's agent this week, to which he said, "I'm not going to talk about that either, but good try."

Then a few minutes later, Phoenix sport broadcasting icon Bruce Cooper gave Steve one more chance to which Kerr said with a chuckle, "Do I want that chance? You're doing me a favor? I think you want the chance. No, I'm not going to talk about that stuff."

If you are looking to read some tea leaves, he did say this, "It is a lot easier to make a move when things are not going well.  When things are going well you are much more likely to go down that path but you always have to weigh everything going forward - in the future. Where does it leave you at the end of the year? Where does it leave you next year? We've got lots to consider, but we're really, really happy with the way the team's playing."

Kerr made it clear that things are going well right now and called the recent four-game stretch the best of Amare's season, "When he's really good, we're tough to beat." He felt that Amare's engagement and intensity were the key differences.

Of course, then he turned around and said this about the impact of the CBA on the Suns' thinking, "We're willing to spend money; we always have been. We've had one of the top payrolls in the league the last few years. I think it's more related to where the collective bargaining agreement is going, kind of league-wide. I think all the teams are hesitant to do much going too far forward because they don't know what the rules are going to look like. But as it relates to us, we are willing to spend to get our team better if that's what it takes."

Kerr also mentioned that this year is interesting because there are a select few teams that are buyers and then a lot of teams that are sellers so there is the potential for some big moves but you never know if they will happen or not.

Clear now?

Here's what he was willing to say...in all its bullet-pointed, paraphrased glory:

Star-divide

  • Kerr hasn't yet had a chance to share any pointers with Channing Frye for his three-point contest but he will.
  • Kerr will be in Dallas for a day for the competition committee meetings. He did say it was also a good chance to meet with other GMs and do business face-to-face...if you have any business to do.
  • He's happy with the team right now and said that he's just trying to make the team as strong as possible.
  • It's human nature for anyone to be affected by rumors and speculation. Players all the time are affected by trade speculation. Kerr and Amare have spoken about it and Kerr says he's been very professional about it.
  • We're thrilled with where we are right now.
  • Kerr said again that you have to consider the CBA situation and can't lock yourself in with a lot of big contracts whereas in the past you knew the rules, but now it's a grey area.
  • Steve Nash leaned in and wanted to make sure that Kerr mentioned his (Nash's) opting out. Ha, ha, has all around.
  • Kerr is looking forward to the trade deadline coming and going so the team can focus on the rest of the season. He then talked about how strong and deep the West is.
  • This time of the year everyone calls each other and offers nothing and then moves on. He expects that things won't happen until the actual deadline and then teams will lay their cards on the table.
  • LB is doing flexibility and strength therapy on his hand. Timeline hasn't changed.
  • Kerr suggested that Frye practice with the racks a few times with a minute on the clock to get the pace and rhythm to it.
  • Kerr's big advice for Channing is that you are allowed to move the rack to where you want it. When Kerr did the contest in Phoenix in 1995 he didn't know that and was buried in the corner.

In other practice news, the Suns had a good hard and long practice today. Gentry was happy with the team.

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Seth

Can’t u plant a bug on Kerr so we can know what the !@#$ is going on??

Steve Nash plays D!!

by phxsuns on Feb 9, 2010 2:29 PM MST reply actions  

I so desperately want to like Steve Kerr as a GM. I imagine he’s probably a fantastic person, hugely likeable and tells great stories but as a GM I don’t like him or fully believe he will do the right thing at any stage.

by keify34 on Feb 9, 2010 2:33 PM MST reply actions  

Call me crazy but i actually think Kerr is quite a competent Gm

most of the bad moves under his tenure have been forced upon him by sarver (like the KT salary dump) and all his draft moves and free agent signings have been solid.

by DaveJD on Feb 9, 2010 2:36 PM MST up reply actions  

+1

Completely Agree

Plus – I like how open and frank he is when it comes to his decisions and what not.

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Feb 9, 2010 2:49 PM MST up reply actions  

 I do value a GM who can admit mistakes

by SSOHOWARD on Feb 9, 2010 4:12 PM MST up reply actions  

Wouldn't have had to fire him if he hadn't hired him.

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Feb 9, 2010 4:12 PM MST up reply actions  

True...

But I admire the guy’s willingness to try something, and if it fails, then to fix it if needs be.

e.g. Porter hiring, Shaq trade, etc.

Plus, he’s had a few gems in his GM-ity. Dragic and Lopez have both panned out better than we expected.

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by Trevor Paxton on Feb 9, 2010 4:17 PM MST up reply actions  

It was the right idea. Bring in Shaq - focus on defense.

It’s really easy to criticize in hindsight and without context, those types of critics are a dime a dozen.

If you can criticize the past with context then I’ll lend you my ears.

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Feb 9, 2010 4:12 PM MST up reply actions  

I loved the Shaq trade

Best move Kerr has made yet, it may not have worked but its about as bold as kicking an onside kick in the 3rd quarter of the Super Bowl

by SSOHOWARD on Feb 9, 2010 4:13 PM MST up reply actions  

...soooo

The Shaq trade didn’t work out… and you see it as a bold/good move.

The hiring of Terry Porter didn’t work out… and you see it as a bad move?

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Feb 9, 2010 4:25 PM MST up reply actions  

Shaq had credentialsPorter did not.

by SSOHOWARD on Feb 9, 2010 4:31 PM MST up reply actions  

What available coach at the time did?

Don’t be ridiculous

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Feb 10, 2010 9:37 AM MST up reply actions  

Gentry still doesn’t have the credentials. He has experience, but is a career losing-coach. At least with Porter, there was some inkling of some smarts and it was a chance to see if it panned out. It didn’t, he’s gone, move on.

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by JasonEllis on Feb 10, 2010 1:23 PM MST up reply actions  

what he said

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Feb 10, 2010 1:32 PM MST up reply actions  

I’m not sure how you got to the conclusion that we hired Porter for his intelligence on any coaching staff…. He was a head coach of the horrid Bucks and an assistant to some other really bad teams. I’m no huge D-Antoni fan but I think we were panicking after his firing and got the first decent prospect.

The dude wasn’t even a defensive stud while he was playing he only assistant coached the Pistons in 06-07 so maybe that was Kerr’s thinking… who knows.

by SSOHOWARD on Feb 10, 2010 1:39 PM MST up reply actions  

im no porter apologist

but i dont think you can blame the suns for hiring someone with no credentials, then offer up gentry and majerle as alternatives…

Banzai!

by Suns' Sensei on Feb 10, 2010 6:35 PM MST up reply actions  

Don’t hate on Majerlie I think that things would have worked out with him, and I bet you do too.

by SSOHOWARD on Feb 10, 2010 10:06 PM MST up reply actions  

im not hating on him.

given the progression of dragic and dudley, i can only assume he’s been doing a pretty good job. but before he was hired you could hardly say he had credentials. and by no credentials i mean no coaching experience. porter and gentry were probably about in the same boat as far as coaching experience and success go.

Banzai!

by Suns' Sensei on Feb 10, 2010 11:23 PM MST up reply actions  

Majerlie has been part of this franchise for over 2 decades

I think you can get a good idea of what to expect from a guy you’ve known for so long, as opposed to a few interviews with a guy in Porter who may say all of the right things at the time, but not perform.

by SSOHOWARD on Feb 11, 2010 8:56 AM MST up reply actions  

i suppose

i guess we have a different idea of what gives a coach good credentials…

Banzai!

by Suns' Sensei on Feb 11, 2010 5:28 PM MST up reply actions  

it looks like nothing will happen

kerr is much more careful this time, since he was pulling the trigger on his previous trades pretty fast… first one (shaq) obviously still bugs him and second one was not much better (dudley is saving it)… so when the team is doing well, I really don’t see him doing anything unless he is forced to, say if amare clearly says he will opt out and/or not sign reasonable extension…

he told several times that he is not busting team up and become lottery team on his watch… and any of the trades offered is not improving us as a team…

by zeze_999 on Feb 9, 2010 2:36 PM MST reply actions  

maybe Stoudemire asked him to keep quiet

Besides the fact that Steve Kerr is not requires to tell fans what’s going on and might not respect them enough to, there could be a special reason he won’t talk. What if Amare Stoudemire and his agent asked Kerr not to?

by species8473 on Feb 9, 2010 2:39 PM MST reply actions  

you got a picture! nice btw!

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Feb 9, 2010 2:51 PM MST up reply actions  

Thanks, and it suits me. Hornacek is my all-time favorite player, and I’m one of those people who thinks that the grass was always greener yesterday, and therefore supposes that the late eighties and early nineties until Charles Broccoli must have been a great time to be a Phoenix Suns fan.

by species8473 on Feb 9, 2010 4:37 PM MST up reply actions  

Wild and crazy question.....

Is there any chance the Suns make any moves that don’t have to do with Amar’e? I don’t even know what those would be but I’m curious.

http://seasonsofdiscontent.com/

by Scott Howard on Feb 9, 2010 3:12 PM MST reply actions  

Probably not

Anything that doesn’t have to do with Amare and his extension/opt-out dilemma would ultimately be done in an attempt to dip under the luxury tax and be a recipient of tax money instead of a payer of tax money.

As it stands, the Suns are currently about $5M over the luxury tax threshold – so…

It’s about a 15 Million dollar swing if they could pull it off, which is enticing… Because instead of paying 10 Million in luxury tax at the end of the year, if they position themselves to be under the tax they would stand to get paid 4-5 Million dollars. But here’s the problem - there really aren’t any trade scenarios that work to where we can trim that much off without taking a substantial basketball hit and or blowing up the team all together -

The only player who has a salary even close to 5M is Barbosa at about 7M… and it would be awfully difficult to ship him somewhere for picks/rooks/ or whatever and shave the 5M needed.
 
Another way to dip under the cap is to move solely a large salary player not named Amare (a la JRich or Steve Nash) …. Nash will not be traded. JRich? I doubt he would be traded unless he was included in an Amare deal (which is not what you are asking.. so that doesn’t apply) because both his trade stock and his contract are currently about as appealing as chunky milk

The only other option I can think of is shipping a package of players with lower salaries for picks and lollipops… but even then it doesn’t make sense considering all of the lower salaried players we have under contract are the players we are developing for the future of the team – and that is the FO’s mantra right now – to develop our talent and position ourselves for the future all while staying competitive and relevant now. It would be contradictory to move our young guys.

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Feb 9, 2010 3:31 PM MST up reply actions  

p.s.

not such a wild and crazy question! It was a good one!

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Feb 9, 2010 3:33 PM MST up reply actions  

what he said...

I agree. I don’t see that happening. I think they really really want to keep this team together. The Amare trade will only happen if their hand is forced IMHO.

I actually worry that they won’t extend him and wont make a trade at all b/c it’s not a “good” trade and they want the team to play out the season.

Then what – we get to the second round – maybe – and Amar walks for nothing? That’s no good.

So, we’ll see.

Kerr was in a good mood and didn’t look like the walking dead like he did at this point last year.

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by Seth Pollack on Feb 9, 2010 3:38 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah, if there's anything I don't want to happen

It’s the team standing completely pat. If you don’t trade him, then please extend him.

by jburning on Feb 9, 2010 3:41 PM MST up reply actions  

Word. Good points both.

Kinda figured, but hey it was nice for a change of pace for a second eh?

http://seasonsofdiscontent.com/

by Scott Howard on Feb 9, 2010 3:42 PM MST up reply actions  

If it ain't broke, don't fix it

You ask a great question. With all of the focus on Amar’e, there could be other things being considered to strengthen the team. While not a bad thought, I would hope that anything being considered is given DEEP thought. With the team playing well now and apparently finding it’s rhythm, you don’t want to do anything that would send us backwards, which is what’s happened the past few years (see Shaq/Marion and Bell/Diaw/JRich/Dudley). So unless there’s a missing link that we can insert into the lineup that can fill an obvious void immediately, without disrupting what we have, then I don’t think it’s worth it. Again, all of that assumes that Amar’e and the Suns find a common ground.

by FunInTheSun on Feb 9, 2010 4:01 PM MST up reply actions  

I would hope that anything being considered is given DEEP thought

Do you really think the FO doesn’t think long and hard about what they are doing? Especially now when there hand is being nearly forced to make a move?

The Bell/J-Rich trade sent the Suns backwards? How? Dudley’s one of the best defenders on the team, is second in the league in three point shooting. Raja Bell has played in 6 games this season. And he’s old. Diaw is the same Diaw we all knew and were completely frustrated with. Playing inconsistent and putting up 10 and 4 a night. Yes JRich hasn’t been very consistent in his own regard, but his production isn’t that far off what Diaw would contribute. Would the Suns really be better off with Bell and Diaw right now?

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by Wil Cantrell on Feb 9, 2010 5:09 PM MST up reply actions  

Deep thought

Uh…..no I can’t say that I believe that moves have been thought through. I understand that every move has risks, and yes Dudley has proved to be valuable. But the combination of the Shaq/Marion trade, the Diaw/Bell/JRich/Dudley trade AND the coaching change was a bad decision. So now we’re on the cusp of another possible move. I think we’ve used up all our tokens for risky moves.

My point was that at the time, the trades set the Suns back. We seem to be the place where old/marginal/thought for dead players come to resurrect their careers. Whether it’s the heat or Nash or some combo of stuff, players sometimes leave here and don’t do so hot. But when they’re here, they, and we do great. So let’s figure out whether it’s the player, the town, or the system before we start throwing the baby out with the bath water.

by FunInTheSun on Feb 9, 2010 7:31 PM MST up reply actions  

I agree—they don’t want to trade Stoudemire any more than they want him to walk.

by species8473 on Feb 9, 2010 4:39 PM MST up reply actions  

this reminds me of the Marion trade

We were on the top of the league when that trade was made….what a gamble!

then now we have people saying Marion was irreplacable.

no trade…just pay Amare the max.

by sonicking on Feb 9, 2010 5:57 PM MST reply actions  

Uh yeah. You seen Marion's production lately?

We’d still be paying him max money right now if we’d gone that route.

by jburning on Feb 9, 2010 6:47 PM MST up reply actions  

As I recall

It was a similar situation to Amare. Marion thought he was worth max money and he simply wasn’t.

Marion pouted when he didn’t get his way, and it was documented that he was a divisive figure in the locker room. He was done in PHX. Say what you want about dealing him for Shaq, he hasn’t been a shadow of himself since. Injuries and age. We dealt him at the right time.

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by Wil Cantrell on Feb 9, 2010 7:46 PM MST up reply actions  

Oh and

Marions going for 11 and 6 a game. His career avg is 17 and 9.

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by Wil Cantrell on Feb 9, 2010 7:48 PM MST up reply actions  

Exactly

Marion wanted top dollar, he was obviously not worth it. If he was smart he would still be in Phoenix, not at the Max deal but surely more than what he is making now. Now we can argue if Marion should of been traded for Shaq.
 I hope Amare and his agent will come of the Max money and meet somewhere in the middle. Whether that happens remains to be seen. Have about a week to find out I guess.

by Grockcubs on Feb 9, 2010 8:15 PM MST up reply actions  

Yes, and Marion is replaceable. Andre Iguodala would be almost like a replacement Marion (certainly not a replacement Stoudemire).

by species8473 on Feb 9, 2010 7:53 PM MST up reply actions  

I’m glad the three of you are level headed, you are about the only ones on this site that see the Marion situation the right way, that dude was a 4th contributor to a team tops I was ecstatic when we booted him out the door.

by SSOHOWARD on Feb 9, 2010 8:16 PM MST up reply actions  

I'm going to disagree with you about Trix

He was the one constant that kept our defense from being absolutely pitiful.

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Feb 9, 2010 11:31 PM MST up reply actions  

Hahaha

I’ve posted on Amare’s wall too much he restricted me!

by SSOHOWARD on Feb 9, 2010 8:24 PM MST reply actions  

Yeah Facebook

I think he was sick of my posts about him not being a superstar until he gives me 10 boards a game.

Haha I did it so much I was certain I would eventually get a response from him, but to no avail.

by SSOHOWARD on Feb 9, 2010 8:35 PM MST up reply actions  

I doubt his Facebook page is actually his.

Probably has someone run it for him.

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by Trevor Paxton on Feb 9, 2010 8:40 PM MST up reply actions  

that was not funny

Come on. If that was really Stoudemire’s page, what do you think you’re accomplishing by taunting him online? At most, it would probably irritate him but not irritate him enough to make him want to leave Phoenix.

by species8473 on Feb 9, 2010 8:42 PM MST up reply actions  

I dont want him to leave Phoenix

I love the dude, but I think it is hilarious I just figured I would eventually get a response, I think if you saw my facebook picture it would put it all into perspective, I have a complete douchey picture.

by SSOHOWARD on Feb 9, 2010 9:24 PM MST up reply actions  

Come on man....

The dude averages 20+ pts and 9 boards a game on a team that runs and jacks up 3’s, and where he’s the only low post option. When he doesn’t score, we usually don’t win. 9 boards, 10 boards…same difference. Stop splittin’ hairs. In this economy, some might be uptight cause he’s asking for max money and you’re picking him apart. But let’s not get petty.

Put it this way: if you’re the one that’s carrying the load in your group where you work, and you know that without your contribution, your group isn’t anywhere near as successful, and you’ve got feelers out on HotJobs and Monster so you know you could make more. When it’s raise time, what would you do??? You ask for more money. The fact that his pay check has more zeroes than most of us doesn’t matter. It’s the way the world works. And say it’s a game all you want. The fact that all of us…players, owners included…spend all this time trying to figure it out…it’s a BUSINESS.

by FunInTheSun on Feb 9, 2010 9:47 PM MST up reply actions  

I think you missed my comic relief

I really like Amare I’ve made arguments that he is more valuable to this team than Nash, that is what makes the whole thing so funny — well funny to me at least.

by SSOHOWARD on Feb 9, 2010 9:50 PM MST up reply actions  

All right. Well, making fun of Amare Stoudemire might have been funny if you had kept it here.

by species8473 on Feb 9, 2010 10:04 PM MST up reply actions  

I don’t think the Shaq trade or the J-Rich trade was all that bad. The WORST move that Kerr made was trading Kurt for nothing. That trade is what set us back. If we had kept Kurt we could have been better than our 37-16 record which was #1 at the time Marion was traded. However, I think Sarver is more to blame for that one. Kerr has done a decent job for an inexperienced GM.

by Beavis 25 on Feb 9, 2010 8:42 PM MST reply actions  

No, the worst move was...

Running D’Antoni out of town and bringing in Porter on a team built to run by D’Antoni. And the cumulative effect of : – Joe Johnson – Marion – Bell – Diaw – D’Antoni – Thomas + Banks + Porter – Shaq is just too much in a short span. I agree that the JRich/Dudley trade wasn’t that bad, but on top of all that other change, it was just too much. THAT is the issue.

And btw, Marion on this team was a star. He fit what D’Antoni wanted and what Nash and Amar’e needed. We keep asking for defense and rebounding. Well, guess what Marion did???

by FunInTheSun on Feb 9, 2010 9:55 PM MST up reply actions  

But his attitude turned bad.

by species8473 on Feb 9, 2010 10:05 PM MST up reply actions  

Attitude...

Because his name started coming up in trade rumors every year despite the effort. Sound familiar??

by FunInTheSun on Feb 9, 2010 10:11 PM MST up reply actions  

+1. Kurt Thomas was probably the Suns’ best defender with the possible exception of Shawn Marion. If he hadn’t been traded, there would have been no need to trade for the Fat Cactus. The O’Neal trade was provoked by an irrational fear of Paul Gasol’s size being on the Lakers, but that kind of player was exactly what the Suns had a low-post defender like Thomas for. By the way, we should thank Stoudemire that Thomas was here at all, because Stoudemire was the one who proposed getting Thomas.

by species8473 on Feb 9, 2010 8:46 PM MST reply actions  

would Lopez have changed 2005?

Change of subject, because I don’t start threads: does anyone think that if they had had Robin Lopez in 2005, the Suns would have handled the Spurs?

by species8473 on Feb 9, 2010 8:50 PM MST reply actions  

No.

In 2005 we needed Joe Johnson.
In 2006 we needed Amar’e (hmmm).
In 2007 we needed a band aid for Nash in game 1; And Amar’e (hmmm) and Diaw in game 5. We also could have had a guard from Spain named Rudy Fernandez.
In 2008 we needed :

 A. Marion instead of Shaq
 B. To foul Finley or Duncan before those 3 point shots.
 C. Nothing to do with Marcus Banks
 D. B and C.
 E. All of the above.

by FunInTheSun on Feb 9, 2010 10:09 PM MST up reply actions  

I respectfully disagree that the Suns needed Stoudemire in 2006. Diaw filled in for him in his only good season. The Suns lost in 2006 because of injuries to Kurt Thomas and Raja Bell, and that season (not 2007) was (a)their best shot at a championship because there was no series against the Spurs, (b)easily the most entertaining and heroic playoff run of the Nash era.

And I stand by my opinion that Marcus Banks was a tragically wasted resource. The man who might have locked down Tony Parker if allowed to.

by species8473 on Feb 9, 2010 10:28 PM MST reply actions  

Diaw..

Diaw had a great season and was Most Improved that year. And you are correct that we couldn’t overcome the lack of Amar’e and the injuries to Thomas and Bell. But…with a health Amar’e most of that is mute. I’m not going to comment on the Marcus Banks thing other than to say 5 yrs, $21.3M. Come on, man.

by FunInTheSun on Feb 9, 2010 10:36 PM MST reply actions  

[shrug] Banks might have earned his pay.

by species8473 on Feb 9, 2010 10:37 PM MST up reply actions  

I thought Banks was going to work out for us too

But dude hasn’t done anything in Toronto or Miami after us, so I’m thinking that we’re both wrong.

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Feb 9, 2010 11:32 PM MST up reply actions  

you can move the ball racks?

by kuato lives on Feb 9, 2010 10:48 PM MST reply actions  

there has to be a limit on how far you can move them right? i mean, im assuming you can’t move all 5 racks to the top of the key…

Banzai!

by Suns' Sensei on Feb 10, 2010 10:17 AM MST up reply actions  

I think the spot

you shoot from is the key not where the rack is in relation to that spot

Kerr talked about liking to have the rack a certain distance from him so he can reach over, pull the ball and go into his motion

You can imagine being too close or too far from the rack would impact that and each guy is different

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by Seth Pollack on Feb 11, 2010 10:21 AM MST up reply actions  

It's possible...

But then the question becomes who pulled the trigger on that trade? Because it’s obvious D’Antoni didn’t think he could/would. And we lost a lot of money. Oh btw, 2006 is the year we drafted some guy named Rajon Rondo and proceeded to trade him to Boston. In 2007 we drafted and traded Rudy Fernandez. So how about we spend that $21M on either of those guys??

And for those who believe in carma, guess who was drafted 2 spots before Rudy Fernandez in 2007 by Charlotte…Jared Dudley. And….we drafted Alando Tucker at 29 that year…and passed on Carl Landry who went 2 picks later.

by FunInTheSun on Feb 9, 2010 10:51 PM MST reply actions  

Rajon Rondo is good, but he appears to have maturity problems, unlike Goran Dragic.

by species8473 on Feb 9, 2010 11:14 PM MST up reply actions  

Come on man....

Rajon’s got more minutes and I think he has a ring. Goran had the same issues before this season. It’s about confidence. He had to be comfortable taking control even with Pierce, Allen and Big Ticket on the floor. Goran is realizing his potential while still having Nash and Amar’e around. Same deal.

by FunInTheSun on Feb 9, 2010 11:21 PM MST up reply actions  

I don't think you'll ever see Goran

Bringing up internal problems to the press or going after dude’s heads when they lay the ball up. Rondo can ball, but he’s also a huge punk.

by hcblankscreen on Feb 9, 2010 11:42 PM MST up reply actions  

Really? Rondo punched someone in the head for making a layup?

by species8473 on Feb 10, 2010 6:44 AM MST up reply actions  

He clocked Brad Miller in the playoffs last season

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Feb 10, 2010 8:08 AM MST up reply actions  

*as brad was going up for the layup

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Feb 10, 2010 8:09 AM MST up reply actions  

I dont think Rondo is a punk, the dude works his ass off and goes home every night, doesn’t get involved in the media, doesn’t trash talk, has no tattoos. I think you are off about Rondo.

by SSOHOWARD on Feb 10, 2010 7:32 AM MST up reply actions  

Fail

You’re telling me that a stuck up little punk like Rondo who practically lives with the likes of Kevin Garnett, Rasheed Wallace, Baby Davis and Paul Pierce doesn’t talk trash? Tell me this is sarcasm on your part.

If not – read/watch this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3LxG2iu0SI

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-paulhornets110309

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Feb 10, 2010 9:56 AM MST up reply actions  

Not to mention his acquired dirty tactics

This is just one example of his dirtiness – I watched him do it all year last year, and he’s kept the same dirty habits this year.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRxZ-6DYJgU

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Feb 10, 2010 10:01 AM MST up reply actions  

So you are basing your argument on one of the things I said - I meant doesnt trash talk to the media, I am aware that every player trash talks in gametime even Nash, point is the kid doesn’t start trouble, says all the right things to the media (unlike most NBA players), plays his ass off every night, to help his team win.

by SSOHOWARD on Feb 10, 2010 12:17 PM MST up reply actions  

Just because he doesn't

“talk to the media” doesn’t mean the kid can’t be a punk. The fool is a dirty player. I’m not questioning his talent.

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Feb 10, 2010 1:34 PM MST up reply actions  

Haha I love those clips

Maybe he is a bit of a punk but I like it, he got under Paul’s skin and played better than Paul and got the win. If I remember correctly Jordan was the biggest trash talker of all time, and the dude has the most rings, so is that ok for Jordan then???…

I would love the Suns to pick up a player like that, a player who has enough heart and guts to do what it takes to win no matter what. We need a few dirty players, then teams definitely wouldn’t call us soft anymore!!

by SSOHOWARD on Feb 10, 2010 1:46 PM MST up reply actions  

Jordan was a punk and still is a punk

Like I said – it’s not a question of talent or accomplishment.

Its a statement about somebody’s attitude and habits.

Michael Jordan may go down as the best basketball player ever… but he is a douche bag and punk himself. If you have the time you should listen to Chamillionare’s (the rapper) story about when he met Michael Jordan. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRehsQLsVKM

And there are plenty of stories like this about not only Jordon, but Kobe, Melo, and other very talented players who just plain dirty punks on and off the court.

There is a difference between deriving success from confidence and deriving success from cockiness. The former doesn’t implicitly require somebody to be a punk whereas the latter does. Kobe Bryant v. Magic Johnson, two of the best players to ever play at their positions yet two distinct styles of confidence that led them to success. One is an absolute prick and the other is a genuinely nice guy.

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Feb 10, 2010 2:12 PM MST up reply actions  

Probably all true

But “Punks” and “Dirty” Players have rings, wouldn’t you rather the Suns be known for a bunch of dirt bags but bring home some banners???

by SSOHOWARD on Feb 10, 2010 2:18 PM MST up reply actions  

Nope.

And not all those who have rings were dirty players-

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Feb 10, 2010 2:44 PM MST up reply actions  

Thats not the point I made. The point was that all of the teams who have banners had some dirty players. Historically I think that is pretty much dead on.

by SSOHOWARD on Feb 10, 2010 2:57 PM MST up reply actions  

...err okay, but that sounds like a new point, not the one you made earlier.

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Feb 10, 2010 3:21 PM MST up reply actions  

Iverson

This can be easily solved if the 76ers dump him, but Stoudemire would probably not get along with Allen Iverson.

by species8473 on Feb 10, 2010 6:45 AM MST reply actions  

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