Suns Defense Zones Up The Nuggets: 101-85
You would think that the second ranked offense in the league wouldn't completely fold when faced with the zone defense but that's what happened Monday night in Phoenix.
After a first quarter that had Suns fans frustrated and mighty anxious and left the Nuggets with a 33-24 point lead, the tide went out like a receding Tsunami (too soon?).
"It was real shaky at the start, we gave up too many easy baskets," Coach Gentry explained of his team's listless initial 12 minutes of bleh-ball. "But I thought we did a really good job righting the ship. That second team came in and did a really good job of being in the zone."
The zone. The dreaded zone defense that normally leaves Suns fans and players hiding in fear of the onslaught to come.
"We almost kind of roll our eyes when Coach calls the zone. We don't want to go to the zone because we don't feel we are good at it," explained Mr. Grant Hill. "It hasn't always worked but it worked tonight."
As for why it worked so well (and by well we mean holding the Nuggets to 43% shooting) no one really knows. Hill and Dudley were both surprised that the Nuggets weren't able to adjust to what the Suns were doing.
Goran Dragic had this to say through his swollen lip that had four hairy stitches sticking out of it thanks to an inadvertent Billups elbow, "Sometimes when we play a zone everybody thinks it's just relaxing and all the time coach is repeating that zone is tougher to play than man-to-man. And today every player was engaged, every player was talking and we were just doing great job. If we were going to play like that we're going to be OK."
The Suns bench clearly won this game in the 2nd quarter holding the Nuggets to only 11 points while still managing 33 on the other end. It had to be the best 12 minute stretch for the reserves all season. Right? Can you think of a better period of play for those guys?
The Suns forced 8 turnovers leading to 16 points, out-rebounded Denver 12 to 6, held them to 33.3% shooting, and managed to hit 12 of 20 on the offensive end. The offensive numbers were obviously helped by run-outs after turnovers, but in the half court they did a good job taking advantage of Denver switching by finding Hill and Frye in the post. Those two combined for 13 points. Add in 10 from Goran, which included 2 threes, and it was an all around dominating performance that turned the tide.
Still, as good as the Suns played, and the energy off the bench was huge, the Nuggets also made for a nice patsy and played the part of shrinking violet to a tee.
Coach Karl talked about losing Ty Lawson to a shoulder injury yesterday and having Chris Andersen go out with knee tendinitis after the first half. He was also sure to mention that his team has played four games in five days. Cry me a river.
As for his team's inability to react to the zone, "I can't deny it bothered us." I would say so.
This was a great win for the Suns. Going 1-1 against the Spurs and Nuggets on a back-to-back set is a success in my book. Holding the Carmelo to only 17 points on 21 field goal attempts and keeping the Nuggets off the line was huge.
In fact, statistically the biggest difference in the game was the Suns 33 FTAs versus only 16 for the Nuggets. The Suns ended up +16 from the line which you might notice is exactly the difference in the game score. Coincidence?
Yes, but still it was huge.
Other Notable Numbers
- Suns continue to dominate the glass. Tonight they were +10 (46-36) with 6 more offensive rebounds
- The Nuggets had 19 turnovers which led to 23 Suns points
- The Suns only shot 44% themselves but won another game with their defense
- The pace of the game was very un-Suns- and Nuggets-like. 88 possessions is well below the norm
- Goran's breakaway two-handed dunk in the 2nd quarter left him face down on the deck. He said he was going too fast and his hands slipped. He also said the he didn't think Billups' elbow in the 4th was intentional. No, that wasn't a notable number but I needed somewhere to put it.
- Nash had 11 points on 3 of 8 shooting and still recorded 10 assists. Amare put up a very respectable 19 and 10.
- Robin had two blocks recorded and another that resulted in a jump ball that I guess didn't get counted as a block. He only played 16 minutes because Lou and Channing were playing so well and the Nuggets front line is very mobile and athletic and not very big.
- In only 16:47 of play, Dragic had 12 points and 4 assists and was a + 20. He ran this town tonight.
Post Game Audio:
- Amare 030110
- Lou Amundson post game 030110
- Dudley post game 030110
- Hill post game 030110
- Goran Dragic post game 030110
Post Game Links:
Court-side Game Notes:
1st Qtr
- Mohammed Ali in the house!
- There goes Amare's great shooting % from three
- Robin with the total REJECTION on Nene and then gives him the stare-down to boot
- Suns going to Robin early against Martin. Draws the foul on the original K-Mart. That guy in Texas (formerly in Sacramento) is no K-Mart.
- Hill with two early buckets. Happy.
- Both teams making dumb turnovers and generally not playing very inspired ball
- Amare with the complete flop. Flopity flop flop flopper flop
- Sure. Jason can hit from three but can't make a dunk (these jokes will go on for an appropriate amount of time)
- Billups is kicking it old school tonight. 10 points and Suns are down 10. Coincidence? No
- Nice help D block from Frye
- Amare getting rocked on the boards by KMart. Guess he figures 41 and 12 yesterday gives him a pass today?
- Billups catches Amare with the old "dribble in front of you and stop and you rear end me" foul. Amare fist pumps and draws the T
- 24-33. Suns got rocked. Low energy and effort
2nd Qtr
- Got the upgrade to the front row...nice. Nuggets end of the scorers table.
- Dragic with the great blow by but can't finish with the right hand.
- 24-37. Getting ugly now
- Much better that time. Suns run JRich off a Frye screen and the Nuggets switch again. This time Dragic gets the ball to Frye in the post instead of giving it back to JRich on the wing w/ time running down
- Nice three from Goran to cut it to 6. Suns aren't out of this one yet
- I heard that slap in Lou's arm from hear. Of course, here is only about 50 ft away
- Nice defensive possession there from the Suns. Zone I think. This unit is playing solid D and picking up the energy
- Great long bounce pass in transition from Goran to Dudley! Suns cut it to 2. Well done, bench bunch
- Nene with the missed dunk (with a little help from Lou)
- Suns on a 14-0 run!!
- 16-0
- Dragic can't miss both of those free throws...can't do it
- Goran can't run the pick and roll. Let's just make that clear
- Zone really working well tonight
- 24-9 in this quarter so far. Well played. Suns now up 48-42. Great job by the second unit! Goran, Frye with D from Lou
- JR Smith airball. Is there anything prettier?
- Hill is killing it. They keep posting him up after switches. Smart. Grant with 13 points. Melo w/ 10
- Dragic with the breakaway dunk! and falls on his face. A little embarrassed there
- Ha! Martin holding the ball, staring down the ref about 12 feet in front of me
- Dragic w/ another dunk! What a way to come back!!!
- 33 to 11. Nice quarter. The Nuggets clearly haven't seen a zone defense before
- And that run btw was with Nash AND Amare on the bench for the entire quarter
3rd Qtr
- Great balanced scoring: Hill 13, Amare 8, Dragic 10, JRich 9, Frye 7, Lou 5, Nash 3 and Dudley 2
- Robin getting to the right place at the right time which
- Decent start to the 3rd. Keeping it even. 15 point lead
- Another great block from Robin. Guess I shouldn't have worried about Grant. 17 points
- Do the Nuggets have the heart to fight back? Don't think they do
- Oh Robin, you didn't just do that!
- Melo hit a three....don't let THAT guy heat up
- Hit another...uh oh
- Some idiot Nuggets fan sitting courtside is calling Billups, "smooth". Really?
- Nugs with three straight three's cut it to 14
- Sitting next to a scout from the Blazers. He's got some fancy software on his laptop for logging/charting plays
- Nice finish on the move from Frye...they are letting a lot of contact go (but then they call that on JD?)
- If you get a chance to sit court side of an NBA game, I would highly encourage it
- 84-67
4th Qtr
- Close out time. Another good 5 minutes could end this game fast (or in five minutes)
- George Karl is leaning against the scorers table right in front of me. He's big. Move please, George.
- Thanks
- Nice hustle by Lou!
- Who is Malik Allen? Is he related to Malik Rose?
- After that play Goran gathered his boys and gave them some instructions. He wanted Frye to be somewhere else or something. Nice
- Suns really taking advantage of the Nuggets 3 guard line-up but posting Hill in the post
- Goran got a close look at Bilups elbow. Got him right in the mouth
- Chauncey walked over and apologized to Goran for the elbow. Classy
- Nash has to come back in early while they work on Goran's bloody face
- Lou butter hands
- Lou makes up for it by getting the hoop and the harm. Love that old school hoop and harm phrase
- Suns up 17 with 7 minutes to go. That should work, right?
- Melo with 20 FGAs and 17 points
- Down to 12...
- Suns missing Dragic. He was a +23 wihch lead all players
- 15 points with 2:50 to go. That should do it.
- Suns have 29 FTA's to 16 for Denver. That's the biggest difference in this game
- Taylor Griffin time! Goran telling him what to do
- Amare just looked over and took himself out of the game
NiceGreat win
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Great Game...
I was so surprised to see us actually hold on to that lead…..This group has been through so many ups and downs together and you can tell that everyone genuinely cares for each other on the court and it really seems like they are gong to maintain this level of play…
I’m willing to say that we have the best second unit in all of basketball…Fropez doesn’t have a good game…Ahh, who cares Frye comes in and gets 17 points.
Also, The Clips beat Utah tonight…We’re one game behind Utah for fourth and only 2.5 back for second place….
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"I don't care what people think, people are stupid."-Charles Barkley
I'm sorry Seth. I know I kinda bug you
You would think that the second ranked defense in the league wouldn’t completely fold when faced with the zone defense but that’s what happened Monday night in Phoenix.
Should be offense
Steve Nash plays D!!
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i wasn't a believer in this
Suns team during the 14-3 start, still wasn’t a believer when they beat the Lakers & Celtics in consecutive games, I’m a believer now..nationally, people still think this is a small, soft, run and gun, no D team w/o a bench, but anyone who follows this team knows that’s the furthest thing from the truth. With Lopez @ center, w/ Stat rounding into a complete player (and leader,) with Steve being Steve, and with this amazing bench this team can play w/ anyone outside of LA out West. Its been some kinda transformation this last 4-5 weeks!
by jma67 on Mar 2, 2010 12:16 AM MST via mobile reply actions
Why do you say "outside of LA" ?
I think the team we saw last night is capable of wiping the floor with the Lakers.
still not sold
Suns are playing very well right now but I’m just not sold that this is a playoff ready team…putting a lot of pressure on a mix of guys that are either really old or really young. There’s a lot that can go wrong…and we all know with the Suns it usually does
I am just happy to see the improvements on the glass and defensive ends and the ability to score w/o being SO reliant on Nash.
Ultimately, I doubt Nash and Hill can hold up to extended playoff basketball physically and while the Suns are better those guys are still too important.
Anyway, one week at a time
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+1
This team has exceeded my expectations at this point. I do not see this team wiping the floor with the Lakers. Dragic, Lopez, Dudley are vital to this teams advancement. These 3 are still young and playoff games they are not used to. This team has surprised, but I will keep my high expectations in check.
Note that I said this team is "capable" of wiping the floor with the Lakers.
But I did not say they would. I hope you see the difference.
In fact, one of the things that has limited the Suns so far this season is their inconsistency. Earlier in the season (especially December) they were wildly erratic and didn’t bring the same effort every night. When they did they played great though. That is one of the things that makes the playoffs such a mental and emotional as well as a physical drain. There really isn’t space to take a game off. The key question for me will be can the Suns bring that defensive intensity game after game while still shooting the ball well and maintaining a high field goal percentage at the other end?
That Billups elbow...
…looked pretty intentional in the nba.com recap.
I thought that on the replay...
But I don’t think he was trying to clock Goran so much as he was trying to power past him… and if he caught him, then young Goran would think twice about pressing Mr. Big Shot again. I think the other thing the replay shows is that if he wanted to, Chauncey could have knocked him the hell out if he had really meant to.
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+1
Veteran play. Then you go up to him and apologize that was smart. But I be Goran will think twice before getting to close. Intentional in my book.
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
I´m not a fan of plays like this...
..if I`m Goran I get right back in the way and I don’t think twice. One intentional elbow gets overlooked, but two??
Smart play
If STAT or Lopez does this underneath, we’re singing the praises of a good, aggressive move that’ll teach the other team a lesson.
If it were a usually “dirty” (they’re all dirty at some point) player or enforcer type, I might feel differently, but Chauncey Billups isn’t one of those dudes.
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+1
Chauncey is a class act. He may have been trying to teach the young gun who was torching his team a lesson, but more than anything, I think he was just trying to power through a tight spot and create for his team.
I don’t think it was a dirty play.
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by iamtrevorpaxton on Mar 2, 2010 2:38 PM MST up reply actions
2nd Chance Points
I heard that slap in Lou’s arm from hear. Of course, here is only about 50 ft away
Way to get the rebound and put-back, Seth
Could
This Suns team be anymore under-the-radar then we currently are? I haven’t seen one article on ESPN, Foxsports, CBSSports,SI.com about the Suns….In all the Power Rankings the Thunder are slotted above us even though we beat them last time and have a better record.. No one…I mean NO ONE is talking about this team….You know what the leading story on SportsCenter was? Not The Suns BLOWING OUT Denver…it was THE CAVS BEATING THE KNICKS…The Sizzling 20 wins, 39 losses Knicks.
Come to think of it…Let’s keep it that way.
"I don't care what people think, people are stupid."-Charles Barkley
Not sure if we can beat the Thunder. I fancy our chances against Denver and Utah
Lakers and Mavs are the ones we need to avoid as long as possible.
The Thunder are still young and inexperienced magenta.
In a seven game series their deficiencies would be magnified and exploited. In the playoffs experience is also a HUGE factor. We have it. They don’t. In addition;
List:
1) We have a superior bench. Not just by a little, but far superior.
2) We have more scoring options. This is particularly noticeable; i.e.,, “go to guys” in the crunch. We saw this on the final possession in Ok. City — we took away Durant and they couldn’t get a good shot.
3) Steve Nash > Russell Westbrook.
This list is just for starters. I think people tend to give the Thunder too much credit. Yes, they are a feisty bunch who plays hard on defense every game — that is the big reason they win — and they play as a team. But we would crush the Thunder in the playoffs.
Especially if we play up to our abilities like we did last night.
But OKC is athlethic and long with Durant at the three...
This is the kind of teams that give PHX fits..
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+1 to Jack Frost & Sun God: I think the Suns can beat them but it will come at a price...
Problem is that Durant and gang tries to bring it every game while our starters don’t. And our team may end up half dead trying to beat them in a 5-7 game series…
We also need to rest Nash eventually for 2-3 games before the play-offs while giving the rooks more minutes…
exactly!!!
noticed it as well, and came to the same conclusion – let’s keep it that way until conference finals :-)
Under the radar is the best.
Also…how does Robin go from a career game one night to 3 points two games later?
As Seth said,
It wasn’t a good match up for him against DEN. They have a bunch of thick, shorter, athletic big guys that were better match ups for Lous and Channing. Both had strong performances.
Part of what makes Denver tough is that they love to use contact. Every foul is a tough, hard foul. They also like to get people off their game as evidenced by Chauncey’s ‘bow (which was clearly intentional-although I doubt he meant to bloody Goran-he’s a got a pretty good reputation in the league)
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EREX21: Robin is going to hit the rookie wall i.e. coach will draw schemes to neutralise him
Same thing they are doing to Brendon Jennings after he scored 55 against GS.
Robin needs to learn to become a beast like Tyreke or Amare, which is to become unstoppable on defence or offense.
I should preface my question by saying that I live in Harrisburg, Pa, so I only get to see the games that are nationally broadcast.
And I only get the chance to watch the Suns on occasional ESPN telecasts
or reruns online…
atdhe.net
its a wonderful thing.
or veetle.com is amazing as well. im from mesa but im in idaho for school and i havent missed a game this season yet.
bt.davka.info
is the best especially when your outside of America
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i watched sundays game in HD
on veetle from my laptop. i thought i was sooo cool showing my roommates. everyone watched amare destroy rj. that made my day.
Good win
Lets beat Utah and get that 4 seed. Utah will be tough, however Suns need that 4 seed for home court.
This is a good team.
+1: I fancy Amare over Carlos and Robin's chances against Mehmet
They are soft compared to our line-up
Only problem is that D-Will will probably manhandle Nash, unless J Rich can take him…
The Suns always have had problems with Utah..
The Jazz are a very physical team….I do however, think they ost more than they bargained for when they gave away Ronnie Brewer…Right now, the Suns are better, but thye have to play them physical or Utah will get in their heads…
"I especially liked the part where I dunked on the McDonalds All-American dude..."
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D Will has beaten CP3 in all games but 1 and today's NBA favours big and fast guard
I just like D-Will’s quiet way of going about business.
Btw, I’m a Curry fan as well. He plays like Nash.
On Defense
Mehmet can pull Lopez outside. I could see the Suns doing some switching that keeps Lopez at home underneath and having Amare take Okur on D.
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Why not just start out with Lopez on Boozer and Amare on Mehmet instead of having to switch?
or is that what you’re saying?
No question
that’s what the Suns will do…Amare on Okur.
Boozer can be really mobile too though so I would expect Frye to play more than Robin in this game unless Robin’s shot is really falling.
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by Seth Pollack on Mar 2, 2010 12:09 PM MST up reply actions
Another back to back?
@Clips followed by Utah at home..Should we rest Nash for this one?
Good question
I think we obviously just have to trust Nash. He knows how he’s feeling and he does have confidence in Goran.
At the same time, not having him available puts a lot of pressure on the rest of the team. I would look for him to play but hopefully play less.
Last night, he didn’t play the 2nd quarter at all and wouldn’t have played in the 4th if Goran doesn’t get knocked in the mouth.
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If we can jump on the Clips and get Nash some rest..it will help our play for the next few games.
I think Robin is the key…Kaman will be looking to even the score after he was kinda embarrased…How will Robin respond will determine how much rest Nash gets.
"I especially liked the part where I dunked on the McDonalds All-American dude..."
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It shows that when they work, they can play it
The thing about a zone is that you have to be always keyed up, vocal and active. Goran nailed it in his postgame quote that is mentioned in this recap, that people think the zone is relaxed. It’s not, and the Suns didn’t play relaxed in the zone last night. They were active and working hard, and if they maintain that kind of focus when they use zone, it can be effective.
Trying to rep Canada on the Bright Side.
no way
it proves the Nuggets were tired and kind of mailed it in when they got out of synch. That’s what the Nuggets do. They are the anti-Spurs.
They are a front running team….not a resilient team
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by Seth Pollack on Mar 2, 2010 11:00 AM MST up reply actions
Wild guess:
They’ve played more games than some other teams in the Western conference, due to all the road trips and back-to-backs they played earlier (e.g. 2 more than Jazz/Lakers/Nuggets, 3 more than the Rockets, 4 more than the Thunder/Spurs, etc.). Maybe it’s a chance for the other teams to catch up.
Those stupid schedulers. A six-day break wouldn’t be necessary if the schedule had been more balanced. Or does math dictate that some teams every season will have to get a bad schedule?
Well, it all sort of balances out in the end
If I remember correctly: everyone plays 41 home games and 41 away games, 4 games against each inter-divisional opponent (2 home, 2 away), 4 games against some inter-conference opponents not in the team’s division (determined by a rotation), 3 games against the other inter-conference opponent not in their division, and 2 games against team in the other conference (1 home, 1 away).
I think this break is good timing, actually. Gives Nash a chance to rest his back/abs and gives Barbosa a chance to work back into game shape.
by jburning on Mar 2, 2010 10:23 AM MST up reply actions 2 recs
Jazz could be first-round matchup
I think the Jazz game will be very important, in that the Suns need to prove themselves against this probable first-round opponent. (This is academic, but they haven’t met the Jazz in the playoffs in twenty years.)
We can beat them as long as we play like we have been playing. The last game where we let them come back we weren’t playing like we are now playing. Have you guys noticed that in the past 13 games we haven’t given up our big leads? We just need to continue to be aggressive and focus on the defensive end. By the way, that Jazz game was pretty close considering that Goran, Fyre and Nash were the only three who played well. Everybody else was pretty non-existent in that game. We need to go out there and prove we can beat Utah. Them and the Blazers are the only teams we haven’t beaten out west.
I like the Jazz, too, because they play hard but not dirty (that I know of) and because they don’t have any nasty rivalries with anyone. I can watch a game against them without being reminded of how the best players in the NBA are often jerks or of how the bad guys usually win in the NBA.
now he is Mr. cheap shot
he saw goran and threw the elbow out there on purpose it happens in the paint it’s a flagrant and he might get kicked out the only reason he went over to goran was so he doesn’t get fined.how about the next time he steps in front of amare he just runs him over.nuggets equal thugs





















