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Preview: Phoenix Suns vs Los Angeles Lakers (Enter The Mamba)

Kobe was dazed and confused when the Lakers last played in Phoenix on December 28th. (Photo by Max Simbron)

Any time the Lakers come in to Phoenix, it's a show. A showdown. Unfortunately, this remains one of those one-sided rivalries where our hatred (born out of envy) is much greater than their animosity towards us.

It all started with the Lakers bouncing the Suns in their first trip to the playoffs in 1970. Magic and Kareem would go on to own the Suns during my formative years, with playoff wins in '82, '84, '85, and '89. Hence my personal despise of the Purple and Pee. Since 1990, however, the Suns are 4-1 against them in the playoffs with most recent wins in 06 and 07. 

Overall, the Suns have played the Lakers more than any other team and are down 88-124 in the lifetime series but Phoenix has done well defending home court (63-42).

The teams are 2-1 on the season with blowout losses for the Suns early in the season (both on back to backs) and a great win during the Suns December slump when the Lakers were without Artest, who had recently fallen down and failed to get back up.

Since the all-star break, the Suns are rolling (9-3) while a very bored and uninspired Lakers team is 6-5. Fortunately for the Suns, the Lakers did manage to break their first 3-game losing streak in the Pau Gasol era with a win over the Raptors on Tuesday. But it took another (the 7th) game winning buzzer beating shot from Kobe to put down Toronto and that was in L.A.

Silver Screen and Roll yesterday broke down one of the Lakers main problems - Derek Fisher's breakdown. Beyond that, they are struggling to find any kind of offensive rhythm which leads to Kobe taking over and ignoring his teammates. Add to that inconsistent play from Bynum, very little production from Artest and a bench that goes one deep (Odom) and suddenly the Lakers are looking in their review mirror at the streaking Mavs hot on their trail at 2.5 games back.

Still, they are the Lakers. They are the champs. They have Kobe, Gasol and Odom. They might be coasting through this part of the season, but they are still the team to beat in the West.

Star-divide

Game Planning

With the Suns coming off all this rest, they are going to need great defensive energy to start the game because shots likely will be difficult to come by. Staying tight through the first quarter with rebounding and D will be key.

From there, hopefully the bench can come in to start the 2nd quarter and give the team a lift until the starters find their stroke.

Keys to the game

  • The Robin vs Bynum match-up is critical. When Bynum is killing the Suns in the paint it has been very hard to beat them. But they've not yet seen the New Robin Lopez. More on this match-up later in the day...
  • Make Kobe shoot. The last thing the Suns want is for Kobe to get all "I'm a good teammate" and start passing the ball. To encourage his shooting, I would play him straight up with Richardson and Dudley. No double teams in the post. No double teams on the wing. Don't switch screens. Just play him straight up, which basically means you are daring him to shoot since no one covers Kobe 1:1. But that's fine. I don't believe Kobe can beat the Suns alone and the more he's shooting through the 1st three quarters, the harder it will be for him to give up the ball late when the doubles can be used. Kobe is only shooting 31% from three this season so back off and make him prove he can hit that shot
  • Continued strong performances from Amare, Grant and Jason. There's no reason that Amare shouldn't dominate Gasol or at least play him to a draw. Grant should be able to get some run outs on Artest who takes plays off and Jason needs to at least make Kobe work a little on the defensive end
  • With no Channing, Lou is going to need to step up and probably play minutes on Lamar Odom. He gives up some length which he admits can bother him, but as long as he brings the 100% Lou energy and effort, he should be able to stay effective. Goran will probably be rusty with his shot so I don't look for him to score, but his defense should be solid and he's doing well running the 2nd unit. If the Suns bench is +10 in this game it should be another home win

[Note by Seth Pollack, 03/12/10 12:06 PM MST ]

Leandro decided he's not ready to play so he's inactive for this game.

Coach said the they will really miss Channing against LA b/c he can pull Gasol out of the paint and let Amare iso on the slower Bynum. He hinted that he would go small - perhaps with Hill and Dudley at the 3/4 to try and create some mismatches.

Gentry was very clear that if it comes down to an end of game situation, he would run two or three guys at Kobe to prevent him from taking the last shot. Gentry called him the best clutch shooter ever - including Michael Jordan

 

Links:

  • Silver Screen and Roll has a great preview of this game
  • I did a Q & A with With Malice which you can find here
  • I am doing an interview with ESPN LA around 12:30 which I will post once it's available
  • Lakers vs Suns coverage
  • Struggles on offense: Lakers don't look like (past) champions - Lakers Blog - ESPN Los Angeles
    the Lakers have far more serious problems on the other side of the ball. Not only are they performing below last year's output in both raw numbers (102.6 ppg this season vs. 106.9 a year ago) and fancy metrics (108.6 points per 100 trips in '09-'10, over four points less than last year, numbers via Basketball Reference), but the Lakers come up short relative to champions of the last decade as well.

  • Basketball Prospectus | Articles | Offensive Execution
    The biggest culprit, as you might guess, is the Lakers' offense. That seems strange to say about a unit that features Kobe Bryant and Pau Gasol and is coached by Phil Jackson, but the bump we expected the Lakers would see in their Offensive Rating when Gasol got healthy simply has never come. Over the course of the season, L.A. is 11th in the league in per-possession scoring. Over the last 10 games, the Lakers have been worse than that. In fact, their 107.6 Offensive Rating in that span is worse than league average.

[Note by Seth Pollack, 03/12/10 3:11 PM MST ]

The podKast interview I did with the Brian and Andy Kamenetzky of the Land 'O Lakers of ESPN LA is posted. Just click that link and the podKast is on the right side in a box. And by the way, the told me they spell "podKast" that way (even though it's spelled the right way on their site).

Or you can just listen to it here:

 

 

 

Here's a couple more great Max Simbron photo's of our last meeting with the Lakers:

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I agree...

Letting Kobe get his at the detriment of his teammates is the way to go…

Gotta clean the glass this game…

I’m hoping for a chippy game in this one…

by Superelkman on Mar 12, 2010 9:12 AM MST reply actions  

Word.

I’m down with playing Kobe straight up. Odds are due to work and an invite to the Pac-10 tournament (stupid Wildcats and Sun Devils), I’ll miss the game.

Go Suns!

Twitter: @MikeLisboa

by Mike Lisboa on Mar 12, 2010 9:18 AM MST up reply actions  

On a Sun Devils related note...

It sucks that we were beaten by Stanford. It was a great season, considering what we lost in Harden and Pendergraph, and now we’ll likely have no shot at the Big Dance.

I guess they were who we thought they were.

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by Trevor Paxton on Mar 12, 2010 9:21 AM MST up reply actions  

I want to see J-Rich go all Matt Barnes on Kobe…

Banzai!

by Suns' Sensei on Mar 12, 2010 9:21 AM MST reply actions  

Ice Cream and Channing Frye!

The Suns’ halftime ice cream gets a mention in the LA Times!

Oh, and not having Frye is going to suck on the offensive end of things. If he’s not out there spreading the floor, then both Gasol and Bynum will be able to stay in the paint which could lead to a long night on the boards and driving the lane.

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by Mike Lisboa on Mar 12, 2010 9:29 AM MST reply actions  

Enter Jared Dudley?

Maybe he can help stretch the floor?

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by Trevor Paxton on Mar 12, 2010 9:30 AM MST up reply actions  

He definitely can...

but I don’t see either 7 footer guarding him. The Suns perimeter shooting is going to have to be red hot to draw help. If both Barbosa and Frye are out, then whatever “gains” are made by not having them on D could be washed out on the offensive end.

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by Mike Lisboa on Mar 12, 2010 9:36 AM MST up reply actions  

Not having Channing does eliminate a dynamic that the Lakers would have to deal with...

But I am pretty confident that the defensive intensity from Lou and maybe Earl Clark can mitigate that loss of offensive production somewhat…

"I especially liked the part where I dunked on the McDonalds All-American dude..."

Anonymous high-school player after a Virginia basketball state championship game...

by Daryl Ray on Mar 12, 2010 9:46 AM MST up reply actions  

Give Collins

a few minutes to go in there and give some hard fouls.

"I don't care what people think, people are stupid."-Charles Barkley

by TheRza82 on Mar 12, 2010 4:35 PM MST up reply actions  

I really agree. A team should use every resource it has.

by 8472species on Mar 12, 2010 6:23 PM MST up reply actions  

Ice Cream races

are a thing of the past….they bring a lot more now so there’s always plenty to go around. Lately, I’ve been grabbing one, putting it in the freezer and eating it post game and/or taking it home. Yum…

On a related note, I need to lose 15 lbs

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by Seth Pollack on Mar 12, 2010 9:40 AM MST up reply actions  

Ice cream doesn't tempt me that much anymore...

I now have this weird fixation with bacon…I also need to lose 15 pounds…

"I especially liked the part where I dunked on the McDonalds All-American dude..."

Anonymous high-school player after a Virginia basketball state championship game...

by Daryl Ray on Mar 12, 2010 9:44 AM MST up reply actions  

mmmm

now if they gave away bacon at half time….

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by Seth Pollack on Mar 12, 2010 10:22 AM MST up reply actions  

For me, the key to this game is keeping the bigger and longer Lakers off the glass..

Starting Robin Lopez definitely helps…He needs to bring his focus tonight and take the Bynum challenge personally (This is going to a great story line..) Amare is also going to have to pull down 10+. I think the Suns can beat the lakers at home, just need to shake off the 5-day layoff rust fairly quickly and not allow a slumbering Lakers team to get to far ahead…

"I especially liked the part where I dunked on the McDonalds All-American dude..."

Anonymous high-school player after a Virginia basketball state championship game...

by Daryl Ray on Mar 12, 2010 9:43 AM MST reply actions   1 recs

Whoever “envies” the Lakers, it certainly isn’t me. The Lakers represent everything ugly and embarrassing about the NBA to me.

by 8472species on Mar 12, 2010 10:00 AM MST reply actions  

It's the championships.

We’d like one some time.

http://seasonsofdiscontent.com/

by Scott Howard on Mar 12, 2010 11:24 AM MST up reply actions  

Word.

Anyone who doesn’t cop to some envy is kidding him or herself. We all want the precious and no one in Phoenix would have batted an eye if the Suns had “bought” a championship in 2007.

Twitter: @MikeLisboa

by Mike Lisboa on Mar 12, 2010 11:27 AM MST up reply actions  

+ 1 million.

Sacrifice a virgin Sarver. Whatever it takes. I wouldn’t bat an eye.

http://seasonsofdiscontent.com/

by Scott Howard on Mar 12, 2010 11:29 AM MST up reply actions  

True...True...A championship would take away the sting of many years of frustration...

Heck…we’d even say nice things about Dom Capezio Stern…

"I especially liked the part where I dunked on the McDonalds All-American dude..."

Anonymous high-school player after a Virginia basketball state championship game...

by Daryl Ray on Mar 12, 2010 11:47 AM MST up reply actions  

You're misunderstanding his point

Obviously, everyone on this board covets the Chip, and it’s agony to me to see any footage of them lifting the the trophy last year. The fact that I’m living in a world where Sasha Vujashic has a championship ring keeps me constantly on the suicide watch list.

 But to say that is the source of our hatred of the Lakers is false. If that were the case, I’d hate the Celtics even more, and I don’t, and I’m willing to bet that most of the people on this board do not as well. Heck, even the success the Spurs have had ( in some cases at our expense) doesn’t trigger this kind of blind rage. And with them you could make a case for a certain amount of envy because there is much to admire in their front office, their philosophy, their additude, etc.

 The simple fact is, if you truly hate the Lakers, any success they achieve is painful to see. If they won best dressed in the league I would be vomiting with rage. When Derek Fisher builds a house for Habitat for Humanity with some little kid on crutches, I want to burn down the house and trip the kid and steal his crutches.

 It’s possible some people’s hate here extends only to the envy of their championships, but those people dont know the meaning of Laker Hate. I sense that 8472species, like myself, has a more primal, fundamental hatred of them that may be difficult to understand for the average non insane person.

by Fritzy on Mar 12, 2010 11:54 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

I am going to be wearing my Beat L.A. shirt from the early 90's tonight.

I remember when we finally beat the Lakers in the playoffs the 1990 playoffs. It is probably #1 on my all-time Suns/sports moments.

by Suns Fan For Life on Mar 12, 2010 12:06 PM MST up reply actions  

i understand the point but...

“When Derek Fisher builds a house for Habitat for Humanity with some little kid on crutches, I want to burn down the house and trip the kid and steal his crutches.”

is flat out wrong…

by Superelkman on Mar 12, 2010 12:08 PM MST up reply actions  

I’d like to rec your post, but wanting to burn down a child’s house and steal his crutches is terrible.

by 8472species on Mar 12, 2010 12:47 PM MST up reply actions  

Well

We’re still waiting to see how Marcus “Magic Beans” Banks pans out…

PSN ID- presbot

by presbot on Mar 12, 2010 2:32 PM MST up reply actions  

Marcus Banks would not have been a waste of money had his coach used him properly. He could have been the Tony Parker stopper.

by 8472species on Mar 12, 2010 3:55 PM MST up reply actions  

To be fair to D’Antoni though, Banks seems to have had several coaches who haven’t used him properly..

Banzai!

by Suns' Sensei on Mar 12, 2010 4:47 PM MST up reply actions  

Well, someone on another Suns forum once told me that in some game against the Warriors, Baron Davis burned the Suns in the first half, and then Banks went in in the second half and shut him down…

by 8472species on Mar 12, 2010 6:24 PM MST up reply actions  

1 Phoenix Championship> than 20+LA Championships.

by Beavis 25 on Mar 12, 2010 12:11 PM MST up reply actions  

You just don’t get do you.

by Beavis 25 on Mar 12, 2010 12:32 PM MST up reply actions  

The Lakers bought all their championships. They have the money and the Hollywood attraction for players. We don’t. I’d rather be a Suns fan and win one Championship than be a laker fan and always expect to get a franchise, Hall of Fame player and win one Championship every 10 years. Just think about. The feeling we get when we win our first Championship will be greater than any feeling a laker fan would get when they win another.The same can be said about the Jazz. The only hope they have of getting good players is through draft and trade and that is how they’ve been doing it.

by Beavis 25 on Mar 12, 2010 12:43 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Lakers don't necessarily "buy" championships

I’m totally re-posting this comment from another thread so sorry if you’re reading it twice, but…

I could only find salary numbers going back to the 2001-2002 season (here at usatoday.com), coincidentally the last time the Lakers won a championship before last year.

Anyone want to guess without looking where the Lakers ranked in payroll that year? 1st? 3rd? 5th?

Try 13th.

And until last season and this season they didn’t crack the top 5, being the 5th highest payroll in 2008-2009 and 1st in 2009-2010. Until this season, the Lakers had been outspent every year by both the Knicks and the Mavericks, who at last count, had combined for zero championships in that timeframe.

Cumulatively, over that time period, the Lakers have outspent the Suns by about $32M, or $3.6M a season. Does anyone out there really think that $32M (or 1 bench player/bargain bin starter a season) is the difference between 2 rings and no rings?

You can hate the Lakers’ all you want, but Jerry Buss has owned that team for a long time and he, Jerry West and Mitch Kupchak have put together some fine teams playing by the same financial rules as everyone else, including the Suns.

But if you do like craftily constructed teams, try the Spurs! In 2003 an 2005, when they won championships, they ranked 17th and 21st in payroll. They sold out in 2007, going all the way up to 6th in the league in payroll. I guess we can thank Robert Horry for this much: since the Suns led the league in payroll that year, he saved anyone from accusing them of “buying” a championship.

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by Mike Lisboa on Mar 12, 2010 2:56 PM MST up reply actions  

Whoops

Source link didn’t copy: USA Today Salary Database (contains info for NHL, MLB and NFL as well.)

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by Mike Lisboa on Mar 12, 2010 5:03 PM MST up reply actions  

the thing about that is...

…many other teams have a championship, so why do the Lakers particularly deserve envy? If I envy any team, it’s the Celtics, not the Lakers. I’ve wondered why most people seemed to like the Lakers more than the Celtics during the eighties, and have concluded that it’s because the Lakers franchise had a sexier image. How sad. Of course I want the Suns to get rings—anyone who read my posts much (not that I particularly deserve to be read) knows I thought the only principle should “be win a championship, by almost any means necessary” and worried about how doctrinaire the team was about SSOL—but I would never want them do win the Lakers way.

by 8472species on Mar 12, 2010 12:39 PM MST up reply actions  

The Celtics won most of their Championships in the 60’s back when the NBA was just getting started. The competition was very weak which is why everybody overlooks their franchise. How many Championships have they won since 1980? 4. They aren’t in the same class as the Lakers. Everybody wants to go to the Lakers no matter how bad they suck which is always rare. It took Ray Allen to be traded to the Celtics in order for KG to change his mind and go there.

by Beavis 25 on Mar 12, 2010 12:47 PM MST up reply actions  

will Lakers even lose top seed?

I had no idea the Mavericks were only 2.5 games behind the Lakers. Does anyone think the Lakers could get cold enough, and the Mavericks hot enough, that the Lakers shock the league by dropping to second place?

by 8472species on Mar 12, 2010 10:02 AM MST reply actions  

Personally I doubt it

Dallas had to win 13 straight just to get within striking distance. That said….only 7 playoff teams in their last 16 and none of the real bullies except Orlando.

http://seasonsofdiscontent.com/

by Scott Howard on Mar 12, 2010 11:33 AM MST up reply actions  

HA! The lakers. We can thrash these guys. We just need Robin to step up. He was the difference in the last game against them.

by Beavis 25 on Mar 12, 2010 12:12 PM MST reply actions  

Don’t lose that enthusiasm, Beavis. It’s better than being burned out by the Lakers’ success and the NBA’s commercialism, as I am.

by 8472species on Mar 12, 2010 12:40 PM MST up reply actions  

I was lucky enough to get 2nd row tickets behind lakers bench. I will be running my mouth at the team the whole time and promise to represent for all the suns fans there. Send the lakers fans home with another loss tonight!

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by RGreyslak on Mar 12, 2010 12:13 PM MST reply actions  

L.A game??

Shoot. I thought this one was in Phoenix. I guess copious text messages will be sent this evening.

by 8472species on Mar 12, 2010 12:31 PM MST up reply actions  

gift from my cousin’s wife who has season tickets

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by RGreyslak on Mar 12, 2010 12:15 PM MST reply actions  

Lakers weren't always so rotten

As far as I know, the Lakers weren’t such jerks before the Kobe Bryant era. Phil Jackson wasn’t so bad, either, until he came to that city. Does anyone remember the 1993 Finals photo of Jackson and Charles Broccoli laughing together? I can’t see that happening at all between Jackson and another player now. These days he lords it over everyone from his thronelike special chair.

by 8472species on Mar 12, 2010 12:30 PM MST reply actions  

gargoyle

Personally, I think that until he lost his beard, Jackson resembled a gargoyle. I used to call him “that gargoyle-faced taunting sleazebag.”

by 8472species on Mar 12, 2010 12:43 PM MST up reply actions  

The game won't be aired on FSN Arizona

Damn! It’s the Lakers FSN!!!!!

Steve Nash plays D!!

by phxsuns on Mar 12, 2010 12:36 PM MST reply actions  

ehh, it's okay

Only the radio broadcasts have Al McCoy, anyway.

by 8472species on Mar 12, 2010 12:42 PM MST up reply actions  

I live in Tucson

Which is not ok. I wish Tucson’s my45 would show the game

Steve Nash plays D!!

by phxsuns on Mar 12, 2010 12:48 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

I think Robin Lopez starting against Bynum, so Amare can more easily destroy them from inside and the play of our bench is the key to beating the Lakers. We use to own these Lakers until Bynum stepped up. Shaq helped a bit, but wasn’t the best fit for our team. I think Robin is the difference. We really need him tonight. In all honesty I think we have a better shot at beating LA than Denver does.

 The thing about Denver is that they have to shoot well in order to beat the Lakers. I’m not sure if they could take LA in a 7 game series like most people think. They don’t have a deep bench like we do. They have like what two good players off the bench? They aren’t big enough up front either. Nene is more of a PF, so they don’t really have a Center. They are comparable to our team from 07.

The worst match-up for LA is Dallas because of Haywood. They’re a deep team that would be too deep if it weren’t for the injuries to Terry and the fact that Tim Thomas is out for the rest of the season to tend to his very ill wife( thats what I heard).

by Beavis 25 on Mar 12, 2010 12:58 PM MST reply actions  

Ha...Ha...Ha...You're joking right...???

"I especially liked the part where I dunked on the McDonalds All-American dude..."

Anonymous high-school player after a Virginia basketball state championship game...

by Daryl Ray on Mar 12, 2010 3:58 PM MST up reply actions  

Oh he's playing

he was actually dancing with Robin post-practice.

Let me restate that. Goran and Robin were practice dance steps for some kind of up-coming charity thing. They looked good by the way. Both of them.

He’s a tough kid and would have played Saturday or at any point this week. The team held him back.

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by Seth Pollack on Mar 12, 2010 3:10 PM MST up reply actions  

Doh!

Kicking myself for not making the headline “Enter the Mamba”….sometimes the brain is just too slow

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by Seth Pollack on Mar 12, 2010 3:56 PM MST reply actions  

You could...

always change edit make it different.

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by Mike Lisboa on Mar 12, 2010 3:58 PM MST up reply actions  

Stopping The Mamba...

Is close to impossible. I say we just play tight one on one defense on Kobe…We should double team Pau and his weapons. Kobe is going to get his no matter what but if we can stop his team mates from going off then I think we’ll have a chance. If we can guard the perimeter tight, rotate swiftly and give Pau trouble down in the post we can win this game. I wouldn’t mind seeing Collins getting some minutes and putting some hard fouls on Bynum and Pau or get Bynum into foul trouble like he usually does.

Also, I hope the threes fall but if they don’t just stop! We’re so in love with the three and that’s a problem unless it’s spot on since the Lakers have a lot of size on us and are going to exploit that with easy baskets at the rim.

"I don't care what people think, people are stupid."-Charles Barkley

by TheRza82 on Mar 12, 2010 4:32 PM MST reply actions  

No barbosa and frye

means that we cant strech the D as well, and because the lakers have been late on switching out to the three point line we lose our major advantage. For a W we need J-rich and Jared Dudley to step it up BIG time

by Bkj on Mar 12, 2010 7:09 PM MST reply actions  

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