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Phoenix Suns Stuff The Utah Jazz: 110-100

Robin Lopez walks off the court at the end of the Suns-Jazz game. (Photo by Max Simbron)

Robin Lopez walks off the court at the end of the Suns-Jazz game. (Photo by Max Simbron)

"I'm more impressed with the fact that we got it in the environment that we did. We hadn't beaten them yet obviously and coming down the stretch we pulled out a really clutch win in a playoff atmosphere and that's important for us."

Robin Lopez, Quote of the Game


With a ton of questionable calls (going both ways) and a lot of missed shots (going Utah's way), it wasn't exactly pretty, but it still is a BIG WIN for the Suns over the Jazz.

Amare Stoudemire and Robin Lopez absolutely torched the Jazz front line which was already thin without Andrei Kirilenko (calf) and made thinner by the loss of Mehmet Okurat halftime (stomach virus) and Kyrylo Fresenko (Ukrainian Foul Machine) picking up 6 fouls in only 9 minutes of play.

The Suns jumped all over the Jazz early, taking a quick 11-2 lead, with all 11 coming from Amare. The next six Suns points were scored by Robin, setting the tone for the night. Both guys were active and strong in the paint. Robin finished with 4 blocks, 19 points and 10 rebounds and led the Suns with a + 20. At least it was a +20 with a couple minutes to go. He ended up +14...but still.

Amare finished with 44 points on 14 of 16 shooting. He got to the line for 18 free tosses and made 16 of those.

The Jazz were banged up, tired, and did not play near to their peak level of performance but you have to be impressed, inspired and optimistic about the way the Suns front line controlled this game.

Robin was immense in the paint. So impressive to see what a defensive big can do for this team.

A needed win for the Suns.

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I still can't get over how dominant the Suns were in the paint. Robin, in a game where fouls were being called quite freely, only had one going in to the final period. He ended the game with 5 but he clearly knew what he was doing late in the game and was selective about when and how he delivered his blows. Four blocks, 5 offensive rebounds, countless tips and altered shots. A real force. Lopeztipin_medium

Forget the 19 points (on 7 of 9 shooting). Robin's interior defense and rebounding are the one thing this Suns team has never had during the Nash era. Now we are seeing how a mobile, active, big, center can fit on this fast-paced Nash-lead team. The results are scary good.

Nash talked about how Robin and Amare help each other, "Robin's doing just fine on his own but I think the two of them together help each other because they're both threats. They're both causing different problems for the defense. We surround them with great shooters and play-makers and it's a nice balance."

Robin echoed that, "I think we're kind of able to open it up for one another. They have to block one of us out. Out of the pick and roll they have to guard one of us. We just open the lane up for each other."

With Amare playing at an extremely high-level and Robin coming in to his own, the Suns have a potent one-two punch in the paint. The pairing certainly has the potential to be one of the dominant big men tandems in the league.

Alvin Gentry has this to say about the game, "They were a little banged up and beat up, but that's all a part of being in the league. Injuries are part of it. We'll take a win any way we can get it. I thought we were really efficient on offense and did a great job defensively."

Other notes

  • Nash said the over his head "pass" to Robin was actually a shot. He said he knew he dragged a big man with him so he was just trying to get it on the rim for Robin. It happened to go right over the rim and into Robin's hands for an easy dunk
  • On his ejection, Coach Jerry Sloan claimed that he was complaining that Amare - who was on the bench at the time of the play - was allowed to come all the way down to his end of the court. That was his beef and then something happened where he apparently felt like he was in danger, "Security let him come all the way down in front of our bench. He didn't belong there." Then asked how it looked that he had his arm on the ref, Sloan said, "I'm worried about getting hit. That's what I was worried about." There's some speculation in the media room that was talking about the official, not Amare hitting him. Odd, to say the least
  • The SL Trib beat writer Ross Siler said that Sloan shoved the official, Michael Smith, and might be in for a multi-game suspension
  • For his part, Amare said the he left the bench after the buzzer sounded. He went down to high-five his mates. It was only after they reviewed the play that they put .2 seconds on the clock
  • Gentry said this about the high turnovers (23 TO's), "We weren't making the necessary plays. I thought we were trying to do things that was a little out of the box. I didn't think we really needed them. I thought we were really efficient offensively when we came down and just was very conservative and ran what we needed to do and took what the defense gave us. I thought we had some possessions there where we tried to create things that weren't there."
  • Gentry was happy with the energy the Suns played with but not too pleased with the transition defense
  • Boozer was impressed with Amare, "18 free throws and great finishes and he didn't miss too many shots. He really played great. A lot of pick and roll stuff, a lot of post ups, a lot of free throws. He took it to us tonight. He dominated the game."
  • Deron Williams agreed, "I'll second what Carlos said."
  • There was some chatter that one of Amare's two missed field goals really shouldn't have been counted as a "shot". Whatever
  • "Tonight we came out with great focus, we played well on both ends, got the lead and maintained it this time, which was very important and that was a key for us tonight," Amare opined on the game
  • The Spurs and Thunder both won tonight. The Spurs dropped like a 147 points on the Warriors and the Thunder destroyed the Raptors.
  • The Suns held the Jazz to 38.6% shooting which was the 9th time the Suns have held their opponent to under 40%. Five of those nine times have come during the current 17-5 stretch. DEFENSE!
  • 10 of the Suns 17 wins have come against playoff contenders
  • Amare has scored at least 19 points in 22 consecutive games. Two more games and he matches Tom Chambers' record from 1990

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 Post Game Audio:

Game Links

Game Notes

1st Qtr

  • In the locker room pre-game, Grant Hill gave my new kicks some love. High praise indeed
  • Pretty good crowd
  • The Jazz radio guy was saying he expects the Jazz to lose this one b/c they are banged up and have played a lot recently. Whatever
  • Jerry Sloan - that crafty bastard - changed up ends so the Suns are attacking that way in the first half where as they usually attack the other way first
  • Amare with the first two buckets and a block on Memo to start the game. Uh huh. That's right. Max Contract is in the house
  • Carlos Boozer just got called for a little bump on Grant Hill as he crossed the lane. If they are going to call that kind of contact the Jazz are screwed
  • Suns up 9-2. Amare has 9 points. You do the math
  • Make that 11-2 w/ 11 pts for Amare
  • Amare w/ the AWESOME defense on Boozer coming from the weakside to contest, block andthen rebound. Boozer's been blocked twice already
  • Suns killing to so far. Up 17-8 and having their way w/ the Jazz defense
  • Jared Dudleyis pumped! They just showed all three of his dunks on the jumbotron!!
  • The Jazz really don't have a great front line. Boozer is solid but too short and Okur is a perimeter big. They don't defend well
  • Suns pick and roll is killing the Jazz. They are playing it pretty straight, trying to trap Nash and bring help but the help is slow and the Suns timing and spacing is excellent
  • Nash pull up three in D Will's grill. Suns are feeling it. 22-12 w/ 5 min to go
  • Nash going under screens on Deron, giving him the long ball. So far that's working
  • Pregame coffee and diet coke = high caffeine level and frequent men's room visits. TMI?
  • Bettter D by the Jazz out of a time out. Collapsed on Nash and forced the TO and scored on the run out. 28-20 Suns. 1:30
  • Jazz are 0-5 from three. That won't last. LB in to big cheers. JD picked up two quick fouls
  • Good D on that last possession. Amare switched on to Williams and forced him into help
  • Suns up 32-22. Suns out-shooting Jazz 57% to 38%. Up 14-11 TReb. Suns not on fire from three but still scoring easily. Amare was a beast. 15 and 3

2nd Qtr

  • Bench time. LB assists on a Frye open look., Nice
  • Grant with three fouls. That was a cheap one
  • Strangly officiated game. Lots of quick whistles for silly stuff
  • Nice swipe by Lou. Maybe we should call him Swiper
  • Goran looking for his shot in this game....not found it yet. 1-3
  • I really can't explain how Lou always manages to be in the right place for a rebound. I think I need to watch film of just him rebounding
  • Good idea, you should do that
  • Suns bench doing well. Not a pretty game but up 39-28 with 6:55 to go
  • Suns able to go with a 3 guard line up against this team - at least w/o AK47
  • You would think a game called as tightly as this would have more scoring. 40-30 with 6 min to go. 18 total fouls so far in the game and most of them on the perimeter for minor contact
  • Kiss Cam already? Not going to look.....DO NOT LOOK AT THE OLD PEOPLE KISSING
  • Nash and Amare back in. They got about a minute or two more rest than Boozer and D Will
  • Like that JRich made sure he got a shot off there. He's got to be a bit selfish at times
  • Robin in for Lou. Lou's got 4 reb in 7:45 min. Suns have 7 TO's. Not good. Jazz only have 34 points and about 10 of those are off TO's
  • subway sandwitches raining from the rafters....I think they should drop ice cream from above. That would be fun
  • Suns depth paying off. Grant and JD in foul trouble, Suns can play JRich at the three w/ Dragic at the two. Milsap gets three fouls and they have to go to Fresenko who is...goofy
  • I guess that was a behind the head over the rim lob from Nash to Robin. Or was it a circus shot gone wild?
  • Suns up 52-37. Suns D is playing well but the Jazz also look sluggish and are missing makeble shots

3rd Qtr

  • Good balanced scoring. Only Grant Hill is dragging it down w/ the goose egg. Jazz 14-44 shooting. Gentry can't be happy about the 9 Suns turnovers which account for 7 Jazz points
  • Robin showing his value in the paint just staying tall and deflecting shots, and grabbing the board. Playing big and strong. Way to go, Robin!
  • Fresenk starts the 2nd half. I guess Okur wasn't goofy enough...of course Memo isn't even on the Jazz bench right now so it's probably something more mundane like an injury
  • 4th foul on Fresenko...Jazz are going to run out of Bigs. Wonder if they can get Koufos here by the 4th qtr?
  •  It is impossible for Nash to slow down, let alone stop Williams in the open court
  • Report from Jazz that Okur left the game with a "possible stomach virus" and will not return. In other words, he's puking his guts out right now
  • Suns keeping the pressure on. Up 60-43 already (9:20)
  • Kyrylo picks up his 5th foul. Milsap in. He's got 3 fouls.
  • Robin is a doing an awesome job in the paint but he needs to tuck his shirt in before he gets a fine...Oh, good. He did
  • Amare shooting well. Very very well. 8-9 from the field and 7-7 from the line.
  • Insane calls in this game. Both coaches have reason to be pissed
  • Suns up 68-51 dealing with it much better but still...makes for a yucky game. YUCKY
  • Amare still playing hard. Hauling ass back in transition try and block a shot. Didn't get it but love the effort. A++
  • Grant Hill is quietly having a very quiet game. Robin on the other hand is playing so hard his shirt won't stay tucked in and Amare is a BEAST
  • 4th foul on Amare as he and Robin get crossed up. Amare thought they were switching but Robin stayed w/ Boozer which left Milsap wide open. Tough break. Frye in
  • WOW!!! Hill w/ the block from behind! Frye with the block on the rebound. JRich w/ the three!!! GREAT sequence!! Suns up 74-56 w/ 4 min
  • Suns playing very unselfish ball. So fun to watch
  • Even Channing is inflicting some pain in the lane. Hard foul in Milsap followed by an elbow going for a rebound. Suns playing HARD
  • Amare's streak of consecutive made FT's ended at 33...congrats!
  • Jazz on a little run - cut it to 79-64
  • Jarron Collins in. Interesting. Suns up 81-66 running the offense through Grant Hill in the post
  • Lead down to 14. Still think the Suns are fine but not thrilled with letting up. 81-67

4th Qtr

  • No way the Suns blow this lead now. Right? RIGHT?
  • LB with a nice three. Timely
  • Robin and Amare start the 4th to take advantage of thin Jazz front line
  • Not a good game from Goran
  • And Nash in early at the 10 min mark proving my point
  • After giving up 37 in the first half, Jazz drop 30 in the 3rd
  • Nice buddy hug from Robin on Amare
  • Suns have 9 blocks in this game. 3 from Robin, 2 each from Grant and Amare and 1 for Steve and Jason as well
  • Fresenko fouls out with 9 minutes of play. Epic
  • Robin just picked up his 2nd foul in a game where the whistles are fast and free and he's not exactly been timid
  • 4th block from Robin! He's also got 19 pts and 10 reb
  • Suns back up 20. 92-72 with 8:18 to go
  • Amare powers through a foul for a nice little hook in the lane and bobs his head in approval. Bob away, Amare. You've earned it
  • Sundiata Gaines playing well. Good D and passing
  • Suns lead down to 14. 94-80 with 6:15 to go. Not the dominating close out we were hoping for
  • Jarron Collins has played 27 seconds and is a minus 1
  • Out of the time out Suns get 4 quick points - both of steals!
  • Jazz doubling Amare. Bring a guard down when he makes his move. Amare needs to adjust
  • Looks like DWill is done for the game if he's not in now
  • Jason missed a couple three's that would have been huge. Back to a 14 point game.
  • 16 point game
  • Jeffers and Gaines both playing really well
  • Suns playing through Amare now. Giving him the ball every time down the floor in the post
  • The Wave? Really, Phoenix?
  • Robin gets a well-deserved ovation as he leaves the game with 30 seconds to go

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Weird game

Everyone but Amare, Lopez, and Nash was fairly ineffective.

by jburning on Mar 19, 2010 10:39 PM MDT reply actions  

I thought Barbosa’s three was huge. That one three he hit. The Jazz were making a little run and Barbosa’s three just made the crowd go while.

by Beavis 25 on Mar 19, 2010 10:52 PM MDT up reply actions  

I think it's 110-100

They counted Sloan’s tech and Hill’s foul at the end of the game.

by Azrael on Mar 19, 2010 10:40 PM MDT reply actions  

I don’t mind that play by Grant. It shows that he’s focused. Ronnie is the guy who should have held on to it. “This is my house”, that’s all Grant was saying.

by Beavis 25 on Mar 19, 2010 10:51 PM MDT up reply actions  

Agree Beavis -- and they shouldn't have been trying to throw down a dunk with 1 sec. left.

It’s funny, the Jazz announcers (Ron Boone, I think) was saying that Grant should have let him dunk it, LOL ! Yeah, right. Like Boozer would have let someone dunk in his house!

by Jack Frost on Mar 19, 2010 10:54 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yea, it was actually Ronnie who was not being the “good sport”.

by Beavis 25 on Mar 19, 2010 11:12 PM MDT up reply actions  

"banged up and tired,' who cares? So is every team in the NBA!

Plus, nobody said WE were banged up and tired when the beat us here last time.

In that game Goran was just coming back from his ankle and was not 100% and Nash was still significantly limited physically. It’s part of the game. We didn’t use that excuse last time and they shouldn’t use it this time. We kicked their ass, plain and simple.

by Jack Frost on Mar 19, 2010 10:52 PM MDT reply actions  

actually

the Suns (Gentry and Nash) pointed out several times that last game was the 4th in 5 nights for the Suns when the ran out of gas at the end…

part of the story…

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by Seth Pollack on Mar 19, 2010 11:30 PM MDT up reply actions  

I’m glad that Grant fouled him. It shows that he cares and is focused. Ronnie is the one who should have just held on to it.

Good win. We missed a ton of threes, only 35%? We controlled the entire game and never let them get it back into single digits. Amar’e dominated. Lopez played great. The Jazz did miss a lot of lay-ups, but we also contested a lot of their lay-ups as evident by the 10 blocks. The only thing I’m disappointed in is the 23 turnovers. I thought we were too sloppy, but somehow we won. In fact the score looks closer than it should be. We DOMINATED the Jazz. We did the last two games as well; just not in the 4rth quarter. We can beat these guys in a playoff series. Now lets just get that 4rth seed.

by Beavis 25 on Mar 19, 2010 10:52 PM MDT reply actions  

seth, no mention of that last play?

if not, i hope that you include a post script about it later. to me, it seemed like that was pretty important. it showed how frustrated the jazz were with our physicality and it clearly showed grant hill responding to the call of competing for the full 48 minutes (literally).

by yanyanman2 on Mar 19, 2010 10:56 PM MDT reply actions   1 recs

the problem was

that I didn’t really get a good look at it….I have some post game quotes from Sloan and Amare but that’s it until I can see it on replay.

Did you guys – be honest – think it was a bad foul by Grant? How did he hit him?

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by Seth Pollack on Mar 19, 2010 11:31 PM MDT up reply actions  

Great foul. He was going for a dunk so Grant kind of had to hit him hard. He didn’t push him in the back though like Robin did, so not a dirty play.

Price should have held on to the ball. This wasn’t his court. Bad sportsmanship by him.

by Beavis 25 on Mar 19, 2010 11:37 PM MDT up reply actions  

i wouldnt necesarily say it was bad sportsmanship by price

but since he was the one who went for the dunk, you certainly can’t complain that grant didnt just step aside and let him have it. personally, i love seeing people compete until the fat lady sings, no matter what.

by yanyanman2 on Mar 19, 2010 11:41 PM MDT up reply actions  

Well Price is a young player, but he should know that you don’t do those kind of things on another teams court. That is bad sportsmanship, but perhaps he wasn’t thinking about that and he just wanted to beef up his stats. Still a stupid play by him. Grant was just trying to teach him not to do that.

by Beavis 25 on Mar 19, 2010 11:44 PM MDT up reply actions  

i remember it looking like a good foul

from what i could see, he actually got the block with his hand, but banged into him in the air with his body. the only thing that made it “controversial” was the fact that it took place at the buzzer and Price ended up hurting an already-hurt wrist

of course, we will all have to wait to see the replay to be able to be 100% sure.

when you do watch the reply though, i’d suggest you pay attention to the way grant walks away after the foul. he was looking TOUGH and IN THE ZONE. he would absolutely not tolerate anybody getting a cheap dunk on him in his house. i loved it.

by yanyanman2 on Mar 19, 2010 11:38 PM MDT up reply actions  

Playoff time is coming and that’s exactly what we need. Grant was being an enforcer right there. I really didn’t like that Price was trying to dunk it with 2 seconds left. I’m glad that Grant stopped him.

by Beavis 25 on Mar 19, 2010 11:40 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

It wasn't even a "hard" foul, per se.

Ronnie Price went to the rack hard. Grant met him and, more importantly, made a play on the ball. It was a solid defensive play.

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by Mike Lisboa on Mar 20, 2010 1:15 AM MDT up reply actions  

I find the Utah commentators hilarious

I was watching the game on League Pass Broadband and I just couldn’t stop smiling at what the commentators were saying in the beginning of the game. Throughout most of the first quarter, the Suns pretty much dominated the Jazz and the Jazz fell into a double digit deficit really early. According to the guys at FSN Utah, they say “the Jazz just aren’t knocking down shots” when clearly the Suns were playing incredible defense. It was only until 2 min left in the 1st when I first heard them say “the Suns are showing greatly improved defense”.

Ok the quotes might not be exact but my point is what is important. It’s as someone said in one of the fan posts. Even if the Suns become one of the elite defensive teams in the league, they’ll still be credited as playing no defense because that reputation has stuck ever since Steve Nash joined us. Honestly though, I find it great since the Suns have managed to surprise teams with their ability to come up with stops when it matters. That was their mentality since the beginning of the season: to come in as underdogs and do some damage and just play basketball. This game showed that with 48 min of effort, the Suns are clearly a dangerous team. Lookout Utah, we’re coming for that 4th seed.

by NashMV3 on Mar 19, 2010 10:58 PM MDT reply actions  

The Jazz missed all their threes, but they only took 9 and its not like they are a good 3-point team anyway. They did miss a lot of lay-ups, but they weren’t easy lay-ups as evident by our 10 blocks.

by Beavis 25 on Mar 19, 2010 11:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

Also, we turned the ball over a lot. That’s what made this score look closer than it really was. I’d have to say that our defense was good tonight, but our offense wasn’t. Good thing Amar’e dominated.

by Beavis 25 on Mar 19, 2010 11:07 PM MDT up reply actions  

This reminds me

Pretty crappy game from Dragic. Two points, 1 rebound, 1 assist, and 3 turnovers in 20 minutes.

by jburning on Mar 19, 2010 11:09 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yea, off night for him, but Lopez dominated.

by Beavis 25 on Mar 19, 2010 11:10 PM MDT up reply actions  

I think so too. I think he liked the attention and he knows that we know why he is here. To be the defender and re-bounder we need in the paint. He even said it himself.

by Beavis 25 on Mar 19, 2010 11:51 PM MDT up reply actions  

hes been kind of off for the past 2 weeks or so it seems.

Banzai!

by Suns' Sensei on Mar 19, 2010 11:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

I think that ankle injury took him out of his rhythm.

by Beavis 25 on Mar 19, 2010 11:21 PM MDT up reply actions  

thats true. totally forgot about the ankle…

Banzai!

by Suns' Sensei on Mar 19, 2010 11:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

dwc... defending while caucasian

prejudice, it’s alive & well in the NBA.

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by Pliny the Elder on Mar 19, 2010 11:08 PM MDT up reply actions  

It’s as someone said in one of the fan posts

Lol, I was the one who actually said that( good to see someone notice). I pretty much said that the Suns would have to climb to the top 3 defensively in the NBA in order for people to notice their improvement. That is what it would take. Ever since Nash and Coach D came and brought this up tempo style to Phoenix we have been dubbed a “high-scoring team that doesn’t play defense”. No matter our improvement on defense we will always be stuck with that reputation until Nash leaves and we change our game.

Run’n’gun can win Championship because the Lakers did it. We still need to play defense and we still need a physical big-man though. The Lakers had Kareem. We have Lopez.

by Beavis 25 on Mar 19, 2010 11:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

could it be...

a new rivalry rising in the West?

just posing the question. think about it…

by yanyanman2 on Mar 19, 2010 11:05 PM MDT reply actions  

The Jazz and Suns have had a mini-rivalry for the past few years

Mainly because the Suns always have trouble matching up with them.

by jburning on Mar 19, 2010 11:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

I can see a rivalry happening if we meet in the playoffs. The Suns know they have to play physical in order to beat these guys and they did tonight.

by Beavis 25 on Mar 19, 2010 11:08 PM MDT up reply actions  

Amare

I haven’t been on the site much lately, but still following games. It seems to me that if Amare keeps playing like this, we should give him what he wants. Kerr could be the laughingstock of the league if he lets STAT go.

I complainmed once that Amare often disappeared in the fourth. Lately, he is money.

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by Hawk42 on Mar 19, 2010 11:19 PM MDT reply actions   2 recs

Yeah, but is it the contract year effect?

by 8472species on Mar 20, 2010 12:13 AM MDT up reply actions  

I agree

will he continue like this if he’s given what he wants or will he start slacking?

by suns_shine on Mar 20, 2010 12:17 AM MDT up reply actions  

I don't see how Kerr

can be considered a laughingstock in any context now. His draft picks and signings and trades have resulted in the funnest team we’ve had since 06. I love this team.

And when it comes to resigning Amare, the fans have it easy. We get to beat the drum to sign him, and then when Amare’s out for a year (or underperforming) we get to forget that and call out the front office for being stupid enough to sign a microfracture-waiting-to-happen to a 5 year deal while we wallow in 30-win seasons.

Kerr, meanwhile, has to keep putting an actual team on the court every season with a chance to win a championship while also making a little money…

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by Alex Laugan on Mar 20, 2010 8:08 AM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

+1

Nope. We must give him some respect.

by 8472species on Mar 20, 2010 12:02 PM MDT up reply actions  

Word

If nothing else, Kerr adjusted his philosophy and the roster on the fly. 10 deep and in the playoffs isn’t bad considering the payroll shedding moves he’s HAD to make.

And while I’m a big advocate of re-signing Amare to a fat, fat deal, I understand there’s a lot of risk in that move. But this isn’t throwing money at say, Erick Dampier in a contract year, but a proven all-star forward who scores almost at will and has improved his game every single year.

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by Mike Lisboa on Mar 20, 2010 12:26 PM MDT up reply actions  

there you go, dwell on old history while new history is being made right now

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by Alex Laugan on Mar 20, 2010 7:56 PM MDT up reply actions  

Sorry this is Kerr's track record if you want to comment on it

He drafted dragic and lopez but only lopez is playing like a starter.

by magenta on Mar 20, 2010 10:08 PM MDT up reply actions  

i guess I'm just a glass-half-full guy

I love this current roster more than any since 06, and maybe even more than that team because this one hustles so damn hard. And Kerr brought in all but 3 of these guys. He made some mistakes along the way, for sure, and cost us some wins. You’re right. But I’m focusing on this season, and I’m loving the team. I have to give him props for this team.

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by Alex Laugan on Mar 20, 2010 10:34 PM MDT up reply actions  

The fact remains that the team is playing well despite Kerr’s mistakes such as:

1] trading Shaq in the off season for 2 expirings and no pick. We could do better with JJ on our squad as another rook or with another pick

2] costing the team 4-5 bad losses with the amateurish way they trade to trade Amare which resulted in some poor games from him.

by magenta on Mar 20, 2010 11:27 PM MDT up reply actions  

Kerr also...

brought Dudley and J-Rich to the team and signed Channing Frye. Blaming him for “poor games” from Amare is just silly. Amare’s a big boy in a big business and throughout the trade rumors played like a complete professional.

It’s not like Kerr walked into an easy situation as GM and proceeded to fail miserably.

He had a prickly head coach who refused to coach defense, a sulking star who refused to accept he was 3rd banana on a pretty damn good team, the highest paid team (including such awesome Mike D’Antoni contracts as Boris Diaw’s $45M deal and Marcus Banks $21M albatross) in the NBA.

Any Shaq trade was going to be a salary dump, plain and simple. The NBA is a business like any other. Money, including that evil profit, is always going to be a consideration. If you can’t stomach financial decisions affecting your team of choice, there’s this awesome thing called March Madness going on that I recommend you check out. Everyone knows there’s no money involved in college athletics!

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by Mike Lisboa on Mar 21, 2010 2:05 AM MDT up reply actions  

Utah isn't so great

I still like the Jazz, but after this, all I think they have going for them is that they’re smart and very physical. They don’t shoot particularly well; they’re not very deep at shooting guard or on the bench overall; and in one of the other Utah threads, someone said the Jazz frontcourt players (other than Andrei Kirilenko) actually aren’t good defenders.

by 8472species on Mar 20, 2010 12:11 AM MDT reply actions  

dont count them out

they had a bunch of injuries tonight that probably wont be there during playoffs

by yanyanman2 on Mar 20, 2010 12:15 AM MDT up reply actions  

They lead the league in FG%

by gerriseinfeld on Mar 20, 2010 12:47 AM MDT up reply actions  

They don’’t shoot the three very well and they can’t defend inside the paint, but they can shoot.

by Beavis 25 on Mar 20, 2010 11:52 AM MDT up reply actions  

Okay, I cheerfully stand corrected.

by 8472species on Mar 20, 2010 12:03 PM MDT up reply actions  

After that game WE do now.

by Beavis 25 on Mar 20, 2010 12:10 PM MDT up reply actions  

Good win for the Suns..

Gets the Utah monkey off their back for a while…Probably more mental than anything…we need some more of the same against the Spurs..

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by Sun God on Mar 20, 2010 12:16 AM MDT reply actions  

I was sitting behind Max

Well I think it was him in a red Yankees baseball cap. Seth I kept staring at you but you wouldn’t stare back. Great game glad I came to phoenix to watch it

Steve Nash plays D!!

by phxsuns on Mar 20, 2010 1:13 AM MDT reply actions  

that must be why

my ears were burning….and yes, Max years a red Yankees hat

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by Seth Pollack on Mar 20, 2010 1:16 AM MDT up reply actions  

Nope

I was not at the scorers table tonight. I was at the media table at the top of sec 102

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by Seth Pollack on Mar 20, 2010 1:23 AM MDT up reply actions  

yeah i know

far right?

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by phxsuns on Mar 20, 2010 1:23 AM MDT up reply actions  

You sit at the scorers’ table sometimes? I assumed only the scorers sat there.

by 8472species on Mar 20, 2010 12:04 PM MDT up reply actions  

thats a little creepy

“Seth I kept staring at you” ;)

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by Alex Laugan on Mar 20, 2010 8:09 AM MDT up reply actions  

You

were either starring at Jerry Brown formerly of the EV Trib and now working as a stringer for NBA.com or Brett from AOL

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by Seth Pollack on Mar 20, 2010 9:32 AM MDT up reply actions  

Aw, man.

I rememeber liking Jerry Brown’s Trib work. Glad he’s still covering the Suns for someone.

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by Mike Lisboa on Mar 20, 2010 11:22 AM MDT up reply actions  

really? I was never a big fan

hes too negative for me

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by Alex Laugan on Mar 20, 2010 12:57 PM MDT up reply actions  

It's funny

Right after I typed that, I thought, “Wait, maybe I remember Jerry Brown’s name because I DIDN’T like his coverage.”

You’re right, he did have a negative streak in him. But he would occasionally scoop the Republic and I did like his coverage enough to have the Trib bookmarked in my browser under sports after I left Phoenix.

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by Mike Lisboa on Mar 20, 2010 1:03 PM MDT up reply actions  

nope

although you can’t always tell who is media at those tables. The end seats in the front row are sold. Sometimes they have family / guests sit there as well

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by Seth Pollack on Mar 20, 2010 2:44 PM MDT up reply actions  

lol yeah i know but i was really far i knew he wouldn't notice

i was in section 118 row 1. First time i sat in the 1st row. It was amazing. Alvin seems always upset. more than they show on TV

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by phxsuns on Mar 20, 2010 12:47 PM MDT up reply actions  

it was actually kinda cool

my seats are a few rows up from the corner of the Suns bench, which meant the Jazz played offense on the other end from me in the second half.

It was surreal watching the Jazz try to get into their offense while the wave was riding by behind them.

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by Alex Laugan on Mar 20, 2010 8:13 AM MDT up reply actions  

This was arguably the biggest game of the year so far....

How big of a game would you the next game we have VS Portland? Winners of five in a row and only 1.5 games back of us with a gulp healthy Brandon Roy…If we can win this game we roll off two easy ones in GS and NY and be sitting pretty.

Did I mentioned Brandon Roy is healthy?

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by TheRza82 on Mar 20, 2010 2:19 AM MDT reply actions  

Those two steals in the 4th were by...

Nash (!) and Amare(!). Nash with a good steal stopping their fast break and then Amare stole the inbound pass and dunked it.

Steve Nash plays D!!

by phxsuns on Mar 20, 2010 2:24 AM MDT reply actions  

the only good thing that came of Jeffers and Gaines in their backcourt

Those guys were demons on defense, but made crucial mistakes inbounding the ball at the worst possible time.

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by Alex Laugan on Mar 20, 2010 8:14 AM MDT up reply actions  

“This is why I love Sloan, with .2 sec left fighting for his players. That foul by Grant Hill was beep ****. I know Grant’s a classy guy, but after all his injuries, trying to block Ronnie’s dunk with less than 5 seconds left was pretty cheap. If this was the 80’s or 90’s there would have been a fight, good thing the nba has been wussified since.”

Muahaha, I love reading the other team’s message boards to see what they think about the game :)

by TheBlur on Mar 20, 2010 2:50 AM MDT reply actions  

This is why I love Hill, with .2 sec left fighting for the full 48 minutes. That foul call on Grant was beep ****. I know Ronnie’s a young guy, but after all his injuries, trying to go for a hard dunk with less than 5 seconds left was pretty cheap. If this was the 80’s or 90’s there would have been a fight, good thing the nba has been wussified since

by dagnasty on Mar 20, 2010 10:05 AM MDT up reply actions  

Amare + RoLo

63 points on 25 shots. That’s a true shooting percentage of something like 143%.

That sound you just heard is John Hollinger’s head blowing up.

Grant Hill is totally the next MJ!!

by gadogry on Mar 20, 2010 4:59 AM MDT reply actions  

That's just crazy efficiency.

Do I have to change my mantra to “Pay the men?” Good thing Robin’s still on a rookie deal!

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by Mike Lisboa on Mar 20, 2010 11:25 AM MDT up reply actions  

WHO IS THIS GUY AND WHAT DID HE DO TO AMAR'E?????????????????????????

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""He’s a stiff." - The Legendary Doug Moe
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors." - Weldon Drew
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by LACK on Mar 20, 2010 11:56 AM MDT reply actions  

His name is Contract Year

Grant Hill is totally the next MJ!!

by gadogry on Mar 20, 2010 6:39 PM MDT up reply actions  

How do you feel about reacting positively to opposing players’ injuries? I read that Andrew Bynum has been injured, and I was slightly pleased. I don’t feel entirely good about that.

by 8472species on Mar 20, 2010 12:09 PM MDT reply actions  

You know I always one to be classy and react positively to other teams injuries, but after all the injuries WE have had that have HURT OUR chances in the playoffs or even making the playoffs I don’t care if it happens to our competition. You know injuries are just a part of basketball and you have to expect them, but hope its nothing too serious. On the other its good to see them happen to another team because it makes things more fair for us. I’m not gong to feel sorry for the opposing team, but I will feel sorry for the player. Like Greg Oden and Blake Griffen and Yao Ming. Those guys had some serious injuries which suck and its too bad they can’t be there to help their team. However, I can care less about their team.

by Beavis 25 on Mar 20, 2010 12:17 PM MDT up reply actions  

I think it's good for them actually

Bynum doesn’t work well with Gasol. This forces them to put Odom into the starting lineup, which is scary. Then, when Bynum comes back in the playoffs, they’ll have his added size and strength off the bench.

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Mar 20, 2010 12:18 PM MDT up reply actions  

What if he doesn’t come back to the playoffs…? lol. I guess that would make Dallas the favorites.

by Beavis 25 on Mar 20, 2010 12:19 PM MDT up reply actions  

Injuries

I hate injuries. I don’t “like” to see anyone get injured. I want to see teams fielding their best rosters whenever possible. Beating the Lakers without Kobe or the Spurs without Duncan, or conversely, losing without Nash or Amar’e just isn’t the same as doing so at full-strength.

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by Mike Lisboa on Mar 20, 2010 12:30 PM MDT up reply actions  

True. If Duncan went out it wouldn’t feel the same, but if Parker went out I’d feel bad for the guy, but would be happy that the Spurs would be without one other player. We were without JJ in 05, so… its just fate balancing itself out.

Overall, I’d love for all teams to be at full strength, but that will never happen. The fact that we have never been at full strength in the playoffs just goes to support that. I’d like one year where we could be at full strength and if another team loses one of their players as long as it isn’t their leader than I don’t mind. I’ll feel bad for the player, but I won’t for the team. Its basketball and its unfair(that’s how its been for us), but you just have to suck it up and play through it.

by Beavis 25 on Mar 20, 2010 12:38 PM MDT up reply actions  

which also means it opens up the West

to anyone who’s playing really good ball

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by Alex Laugan on Mar 20, 2010 12:58 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yes, and after last night, I think that if anyone upsets the Fakers in the West playoffs, it will probably be the Mavericks, the Suns or the Spurs (although this seems one of their under-the-radar seasons—I have no idea how good the Spurs really are). The Jazz can’t do it. The Nuggets aren’t tough enough. The Thunder probably aren’t experienced enough. The Blazers’ frontcourt is too depleted.

by 8472species on Mar 20, 2010 2:00 PM MDT up reply actions  

I don't really think they need him to win the title

He’s a luxury IMO, which is scary

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Mar 21, 2010 2:52 AM MDT up reply actions  

Jon Barry

Anyone hear how he dissed the Suns after the 152-114 game against the Wolves? He said nothing about the 152 points. All he wanted to talk about was the 114 Minny scored. He rolled his eyes. Of course two days later, the mighty defense-minded Spurs wallop GS 147-116, and all he says is how the Spurs humiliated the W’s.

What a jerk

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by Hawk42 on Mar 20, 2010 2:35 PM MDT reply actions  

Don’t listen to the “experts”.

by gerriseinfeld on Mar 20, 2010 2:41 PM MDT up reply actions  

I assume Jon Barry is simply arrogant and very opinionated, like his father.

by 8472species on Mar 20, 2010 2:56 PM MDT up reply actions  

He has an agenda against the Suns

He favors the rebounding/defense/grind it out game, which is funny, because all he was as a player was a 3 point shooter. Kind of like Barkley ragging on the Suns for not playing defense, when he never played any for us.

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by Hawk42 on Mar 20, 2010 4:58 PM MDT up reply actions  

thats exactly why I don't like those guys (brent and jon)

they are in love with a playing style that is exactly opposite of their own playing careers. Its as if they are trying to convince us that they were the same way, like they’re trying to rewrite history. i think its called defense-envy.

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by Alex Laugan on Mar 20, 2010 5:45 PM MDT up reply actions  

jon and brent have always been anti-Suns

never liked them

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by Alex Laugan on Mar 20, 2010 5:41 PM MDT up reply actions  

Any notice...

The Spurs scored 147 points yesterday and it was every where and everyone was praising the Spurs and just a day before the Suns scored 152 and no one really said anything about it. Granted, it was against the Wolves but the Spurs did it against Golden State…No one plays defense on Golden State.

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by TheRza82 on Mar 20, 2010 4:01 PM MDT reply actions  

anyone notice

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by TheRza82 on Mar 20, 2010 4:02 PM MDT up reply actions  

It's actually a positive thing.

Because we’re known for our offense and the Spurs aren’t. They haven’t scored 147 in a game in like 18 years.

Just like, people would make a big fuss if Golden State held an opponent to 72 points in a game, but they won’t talk about it if the Celtics did that.

Grant Hill is totally the next MJ!!

by gadogry on Mar 20, 2010 6:45 PM MDT up reply actions  

We held the Hawks to 80 and nobody talked about us.

by Beavis 25 on Mar 20, 2010 7:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

People are biased. We started the whole run’n’gun deal and now that reputation has stuck. Nobody will notice our improvements. To them we will always be the team “that scores a lot of points, but won’t play defense” even if we are. Nobody ever talks about the Suns anymore. We’re old news. In fact people don’t like the Suns that much anymore. We used to be the most fun team to watch, but I guess people got bored of it. Now everybody hates us.

by Beavis 25 on Mar 20, 2010 7:23 PM MDT up reply actions  

They hate us because we don’t play defense, yet we are…

by Beavis 25 on Mar 20, 2010 7:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

hey thats cool

I don’t mind everyone taking the Suns lightly. makes it easier to beat them.

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by Alex Laugan on Mar 20, 2010 7:57 PM MDT up reply actions  

Still...

We scored the most points in an NBA game this year and the Spurs do it the next day and get less points and its more talked about…It’s against Golden State they give up 120 a night when they try to play defense. I mean I know we did it against the Wolves which is probably worse but I’d like a little credit….The Spurs aren’t a bunch of bums or anything. It’s not a big deal too me it just shows that The Suns are super under the radar.

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by TheRza82 on Mar 20, 2010 7:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

What’s even more ridiculous is that people nit pick us for given up 114 points to the T-Wolves. Yet, nobody nitpicks the Spurs for given up 116 to the Warriors(who are just as bad of a team).

by Beavis 25 on Mar 20, 2010 7:25 PM MDT up reply actions  

It's just stupid as crap to nitpick that

If you’re up by 40 points, are you really going to expend a whole ton of energy on lockdown defense? What, did they want it to be 152 to 80??

by jburning on Mar 21, 2010 12:31 AM MDT up reply actions  

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