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Suns prospective playoff opponents...Let's look at the Jazz!

Well folks, it’s time to start assessing our playoff possibilities. Currently we are seeded as the 5th seed in the West, but the season is far from over. With 20 games left in the ultra-competitive Western Conference the Suns may finish as high as 2nd or possibly even finish out the hunt altogether…

 

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The Suns have played well over the last few weeks but they must maintain their pace because: 1) Any let-up may allow the teams beneath us (San Antonio, OKC, Portland, Houston, & New Orleans) to overtake or supplant us. 2) Allow us at a team to go into the playoffs playing at a high level and confidence. 3) Force opposing playoff teams to adjust their game plans to mitigate a hot team.

Supposing that the Suns finish strong and finish at a 51-31 (13-7 rest of the way) we would probably be looking at either the fourth or fifth seed. Looking at strength of schedule and a few other factors, my predicted order of finish may very well be: 1-LA, 2-Dallas, 3-Denver, 4-Phoenix, 5-OKC, 6-San Antonio, 7- Utah, and 8-Portland. There is a great deal of ambiguity for the 3-7 spots and I could be totally wrong.

However, if we use this scenario, the Suns likely opponent could range between Oklahoma City, San Antonio or Utah. For this post I will take Utah as a potential opponent…Maybe another BSOTS poster can handle the analysis of the other prospective playoff opponents. While, Utah is a well coached, highly disciplined, veteran and mentally tough team, I believe that the Suns as a whole have a more talented roster, a deeper bench, and in a playoff series, will come out on top. 

While Deron Williams gets a lot of press at point guard, I truly believe the Jazz’s front line is where the damage gets done. While not the most gifted athletically group, this physical combo wears opposing teams down with their physicality, double teams, and deft touch around the rim and away from it (Except for Kirilenko, that is…). Looking across the front line battle of these two teams, the emergence of Robin Lopez as a legitimate interior presence means that Utah cannot simply double down on Amare with Boozer, Okur, and/or Kirilenko. Someone must account for Lopez on the opposite. Either they switch, show double or play man-to-man. In either case, I think the Suns benefit from this arrangement. When Frye is inserted into the game, his 3-point threat will potentially draw Okur away from the post and also open things up for STAT.

I also think Robin’s defensive presence will slow Boozer’s & Milsap’s inside game down a little….Utah relies heavily on feeds from DWill into the post, via either interior pass or the pick and roll. Having a decent post defender that can alter or block a few of Boozer’s & Millsap’s shots will free things up on the weak side help for STAT, Grant Hill & JRich to play help defense and take a few offensive rebounds away from the Jazz (which is where they kill a lot of teams..). It will also allow STAT to play the less physical Okur and pick up less fouls in the process. The front line variable that could alter the way the series goes is Andrei Kirilenko. When focused and on his game, Kirilenko is a defensive and shot blocking menace with the ability to put up 15-18 ppg during the course of a series; when off of it, he is puts up bad shots, gets in the way offensively and gets lost in the flow if the game.

In the backcourt; Utah’s inexplicable discarding of Ronnie Brewer will haunt them. Ronnie was the type of athletic wing player that gave the Suns fits…both on offense and defense. His replacement Wes Matthews and his backups Kyle Korver & C.J Miles are not the explosive, impact type of player that Brewer was. While Matthews has had some success against the Suns, expect the Suns defense to figure him out fairly quick. As a defender, He cannot guard a focused and on track Jason Richardson. The point guard matchup of Deron Williams and Steve Nash will be a great one, but fairly even.  I don’t think neither can stop the other, so it’s really on the supporting cast. In this case, I think Phoenix’s is slightly better especially in the case of bench production and capabilities…Phoenix in six games (4-2).  Tell me what you think!  

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The result of a Suns playoff series with the Jazz would be....:
Suns roll 4 games to 1
24 votes
Jazz roll 4 games to 1
14 votes
Suns 4 games to 2
206 votes
Jazz 4 games to 2
51 votes
Suns 4 games to 3
152 votes
Jazz 4 games to 3
28 votes
Suns sweep 4 games to 0
9 votes
Jazz sweep 4 games to 0
6 votes

490 votes | Poll has closed

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I think the Jazz are a troublesome foe for the Suns

You covered it all, basically, but my take:

The Jazz are not a team that gets discombobulated easily, thanks for Sloan’s tireless emphasis on robotic execution, and the Suns feast on teams that mentally collapse and allow runs.

Also, the Jazz are very tough and physical and while the Suns are more physical and tough than they have been in recent years, they still can be muscled around.

Also, they have unusual matchups, in that Williams is much taller/stronger than Nash and they have an interior forward (Boozer) and a perimeter center (Okur). The Suns will likely have Lopez cover Boozer instead, but he’s like Amare in that he’s faster than most teams’ big men and can still hit an outside shot.

by jburning on Mar 2, 2010 1:12 PM MST reply actions  

The Jazz's front line is troublesome...

But don’t you think the presence of Robin Lopez puts us even up front?

"I especially liked the part where I dunked on the McDonalds All-American dude..."

Anonymous high-school player after a Virginia basketball state championship game...

by Daryl Ray on Mar 2, 2010 1:15 PM MST up reply actions  

It helps

But I think Boozer’s still too quick and strong, and can still draw him away from the paint with a semi-reliable jump shot.

by jburning on Mar 2, 2010 1:19 PM MST up reply actions  

Boozer's got a nice 15-18 footer...

But I don’t think he is as consistent as Amare…I would rather have him shoot there than pile under points and offensive rebounds under the goal…

"I especially liked the part where I dunked on the McDonalds All-American dude..."

Anonymous high-school player after a Virginia basketball state championship game...

by Daryl Ray on Mar 2, 2010 1:26 PM MST up reply actions  

That's completely false

Boozer’s short-mid range game is deadly. You’re not really giving him justice by calling it “nice”. He’d pull Ro-Lo out with ease after the first few jab-step Js, then drive on him once Ro-Lo commits more to the shot.

Seems a horror-cover to put Lopez on Boozer.

I’d rather have Amar’e cover Boozer.

by felixthm on Mar 5, 2010 2:57 AM MST up reply actions  

I agree... I think Boozer is a tough guard for Lopez

Overall, I picked the Suns to win in 7 but wouldn’t be surprised to see either team win in a long series….

The Jazz are so fundamentally sound as a squad plus they have good players where we do so it kinda negates and comes down to the other guys

PG Edge —> Even, Nash and Deron both have their respective strengths and our top PGs in this league
SG Edge —> Suns, J-Rich > Wesley Matthews although Matthews has had a really good rookie season and will get better
SF Edge —> Jazz, Kirelenko is a great glue guy and defensive stopper, Hill is just a great glue guy
PF Edge —> Even, Amare is better than Boozer by a little but we have no one like Millsap on our bench
C Edge —> Even, Okurs ability to chuck is negated by Robins presence in the paint
Bench —> Suns by a hair but the Jazz always seem to have guys step up…

If the Suns bring defensive intensity like they have recently they can close this series out in 6 but that is a big if…. the Jazz almost certainly will bring defensive intensity

by Superelkman on Mar 3, 2010 8:19 AM MST up reply actions  

our should be are....

i really have to read before posting….

by Superelkman on Mar 3, 2010 8:19 AM MST up reply actions  

I like your reply,except for the SF position....

I think Hill brings as much if not more than AK-47….Also, he is not liable to come unglued and b reak down in tears like Kirilenko…

"I especially liked the part where I dunked on the McDonalds All-American dude..."

Anonymous high-school player after a Virginia basketball state championship game...

by Daryl Ray on Mar 3, 2010 8:34 AM MST up reply actions  

agreed

 although AK does have a height advantage and can get hot with the outside shot..

by Fritzy on Mar 3, 2010 11:10 AM MST up reply actions  

I'll gladly take Kirilenko shooting 18-20 foot jumpers all day...

Utah definitely won’t win like that…What I fear is Deron Williams running the pick and roll with Boozer or the kickouts to a wide-open Okur at the three point line…

"I especially liked the part where I dunked on the McDonalds All-American dude..."

Anonymous high-school player after a Virginia basketball state championship game...

by Daryl Ray on Mar 3, 2010 11:29 AM MST up reply actions  

yes it is...

it is a reputation they earned from playing basketball the right way for 20 years….

by Superelkman on Mar 3, 2010 8:19 AM MST up reply actions  

Thats what makes them a tough matchup for most Western Conference opponents

The Only teams that seem to handle them fairly easily are Los Angeles and Dallas…Have to do more analysis on that…

"I especially liked the part where I dunked on the McDonalds All-American dude..."

Anonymous high-school player after a Virginia basketball state championship game...

by Daryl Ray on Mar 3, 2010 8:36 AM MST up reply actions  

I think we should wait to get out a prediction until we at least play them two more times. In fact we will be doing that pretty soon.

by Beavis 25 on Mar 2, 2010 2:04 PM MST reply actions  

Even so, playoff basketball is a lot different than regular season games

The officials let more fouls go…Coaches get more conservative in their approach and the game slows down. Every possession is critical and fringe bench bench don’t see the llight of day. Changes the complexity of the game a lot…

"I especially liked the part where I dunked on the McDonalds All-American dude..."

Anonymous high-school player after a Virginia basketball state championship game...

by Daryl Ray on Mar 2, 2010 2:12 PM MST up reply actions  

I know and I love it...

NBA basketball is the best spectacle in all of sport….

by Superelkman on Mar 3, 2010 8:20 AM MST up reply actions  

I love it too...

Usually have to up my Blood pressure dosages during this time, though…

"I especially liked the part where I dunked on the McDonalds All-American dude..."

Anonymous high-school player after a Virginia basketball state championship game...

by Daryl Ray on Mar 3, 2010 11:31 AM MST up reply actions  

no rivalry

A series against the Jazz would be refreshing, because like that 2006 semifinal against the Clippers, it was challenging but not at all personal like a series against the Spurs or Lakers. I personally am tired of those, because they always remind me of the dark side of the NBA.

by 8472species on Mar 2, 2010 4:01 PM MST reply actions  

Right now it looks like a lot of people agree with me...

A good majority feel the the Suns could take the Jazz in 6…

"I especially liked the part where I dunked on the McDonalds All-American dude..."

Anonymous high-school player after a Virginia basketball state championship game...

by Daryl Ray on Mar 2, 2010 4:52 PM MST reply actions  

I don't like Utah as a matchup for us

They’ve kind of beasted us throughout the past few years in the regular season, haven’t they?

Jazz in 6-7 IMO

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Mar 2, 2010 5:29 PM MST reply actions  

The 2006-07 season was just a fluke. Amare hardly played the first game and Nash didn’t play the 2nd half of the 2nd game. In the 3rd game both teams were missing players and the Jazz won by two. We lost all three of those game. The 4rt matchup that year we had our team at full strength and slaughtered them on their own homecourt by like 30 points. We were the only team besides SA who could beat those guys badly that year on their own homecourt.

by Beavis 25 on Mar 5, 2010 1:37 PM MST up reply actions  

shocking results Suns in 6? WOW, Dream on.

Thanks for the nice post. Enjoyed reading it.
It is pretty difficult to project just where the team will finish in the playoff race. I do think that you have the top two positions correct. The Lakers and the Mavs are the two best teams and will finish on top. The Suns need to avoid playing either of these teams in the first round if they have a chance of advancing.
With the addition of R Lopez to the starting lineup, the Suns magically match up well with all the other playoff teams in the West. If we play Utah there will be plenty of new dynamics at play. Boozer will not be the bully under the basket. I don’t know if Lopez can guard him outside but he will give as much as he takes under the basket. Amare will have an easy time guarding Okur and Hill will match well with whoever plays SF. Deron Williams cannot be stopped by Steve Nash. However JRich might match up well.
The Jazz have had the Suns number the past few years. That can be turned around and I do expect the team to give a strong showing in their next game with the Jazz.

by da suns on Mar 2, 2010 5:40 PM MST reply actions  

Can't answer this poll without key info: WHO has home court advantage?

Right now, I think the team with the home court advantage would probably win. We have traditionally not played well in Utah, and we all know how tough the Jazz are to beat in their own building. Could we win a game in Utah, yes. I don’t think we could win two though. So, it the Jazz stole one in Phoenix and they had home court I think they’d probably take the series. That is why I have been harping on the importance of getting the 3 or 4 seed rather than being number 5 or 6.

by Jack Frost on Mar 2, 2010 6:19 PM MST reply actions  

Well the one thing working to our advantage is the schedule...

Utah has a lot of games left on the road and they generally play a few tougher games than we do…Suns play 11 of their last twenty at home while Utah plays 13 of their last 22 on the road…I really don’t see the Jazz as doing better than 12-10 for the stretch run and I easily see the Suns going 13 -7 or 12-8.

"I especially liked the part where I dunked on the McDonalds All-American dude..."

Anonymous high-school player after a Virginia basketball state championship game...

by Daryl Ray on Mar 2, 2010 6:41 PM MST reply actions  

Hey Seth

I’d gladly do the Denver or OKC part as I follow them real close, not as much as the Suns, but pretty close. interested? or should I just leave it to watt, iamtrevorpaxton and so on?

Libertarianism is just Anarchy for rich people

by Murcy on Mar 3, 2010 8:12 AM MST reply actions  

You can always do a fanpost

"I especially liked the part where I dunked on the McDonalds All-American dude..."

Anonymous high-school player after a Virginia basketball state championship game...

by Daryl Ray on Mar 3, 2010 8:32 AM MST up reply actions  

absolutely

do a fanpost like Suns God did

Blogging Suns Basketball . twitter: @sethpo

by Seth Pollack on Mar 3, 2010 10:26 AM MST up reply actions  

Okay...

First of all, I want no part of the Durrantula/Westbrook show. That team is scary right now and although probably can’t knock of the Lakers, Dallas or Denver….can beat just about anybody else in the West 4-8. I think we can beat Utah, but they’re a tough team when healthy and defend their home court extremely well. I think we have a better bench when completely healthy and that might make all the difference. I’d like to see us take on the Spurs and beat the living daylights out of them b/c that’s the team I think we can beat decisively. Outside of Manu/Parker/Duncan, they’re an okay team. Although McDyess and Jefferson have helped them, and certainly their first round draft pick would’ve been nice on our team. But for some reason, I think we can take out the Spurs this season with the team we currently have if we’re completely healthy. That would be some great payback!

Geo

by Galvara1022 on Mar 3, 2010 11:10 AM MST reply actions  

I really, really think we are better than the Spurs...

It’s just we make little mistakes and have been , to be hones,t quite unlucky in dealing with this team. My thought is to jump on them and build a 15 point lead so that the unlucky crap doesn’t doom us into another loss…We can beat them , but we need to get them out of our heads…

"I especially liked the part where I dunked on the McDonalds All-American dude..."

Anonymous high-school player after a Virginia basketball state championship game...

by Daryl Ray on Mar 3, 2010 11:27 AM MST up reply actions  

I think we've always had a team that COULD beat them

But they just execute like machines in the fourth, and we don’t. They’ve beaten us so many times now that I don’t think we’ll be able to get the monkey off our backs until Pop retires or something.

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Mar 3, 2010 2:24 PM MST up reply actions  

I definitely agree..Sometimes I've often wondered why we don't get a defensive "specialist" on a 10 day contract..

and have him goad Raggedy Manu into one his his patented kamikaze drives to the paint which results in a playoff ending concussion…It’s more sportsman-like than punching the living crap out of him….! May not get the monkey off our back, but it would probably make us feel a little better…

"I especially liked the part where I dunked on the McDonalds All-American dude..."

Anonymous high-school player after a Virginia basketball state championship game...

by Daryl Ray on Mar 3, 2010 2:44 PM MST up reply actions  

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