Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Pro Quality. Fan Perspective.
Login-facebook
Around SBN: 2012 Africa Cup Of Nations Final

Say it with me. Suns are the 3rd most bloody profitable NBA franchise

Fantastic article by Doug Thonus on the Bulls:

2000-2009 Chicago Bulls, a dynasty of profits

If there was a world championship for money making, the city of Chicago would bankrupt itself throwing parades for our Chicago Bulls.   The Bulls may not have put all the winning pieces together on the court, but the business side is crushing the competition.


In the NBA, the Bulls are #1 over the past decade.   The second place team?   The Lakers.   Trailing by 100 million in profits.

Bare in mind, over this stretch the Bulls made the playoffs four times and got past the first round once, while never getting past the second round.   The Lakers, in a bigger market, won four titles and made it to the NBA finals two other times over this stretch.   Yet, they fell 100 million short of the profit levels the Bulls achieved.  How is that even possible?

Team10 Year Profit3 Year Profit1 Year Profit
Bulls 474 165 51
Lakers 373 131 51
Suns 275 87 21
Pistons 263 126 42
Rockets 199 91 30
Celtics 165 51 13
Spurs 141 54 19
Clippers 140 31 10
Cavaliers 127 50 5
Wizards 113 32 5
Raptors 109 75 18
Heat 104 25 8
Jazz 85 23 8
Knicks 80 9 21
Kings 62 25 -3
Warriors 55 26 12
Hornets 49 13 0
76ers 45 5 8
Hawks 42 15 -2
Magic 26 9 -2
Thunder 12 -2 13
Nuggets 10 -26 5
Bobcats 7 -5 -15
Pacers -8 -23 -16
Timberwolves -9 -15 -7
Nets -36 -16 -14
Bucks -47 0 -7
Grizzlies -99 -21 -7
Mavericks -154 -33 -17
Blazers -259 -46 -20

http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/2010/03/2000-2009-chicago-bulls-a-dynasty-of-profits.html

======

The ways the management puts it, we seem to be bleeding money and our Suns franchise is not profitable. Evidently Sarver and Kerr seems to be more interested in raising their profit margins by selling picks, dumping salary and refusing to sign our proven marque players like JJ and Amare.

How long will Suns fans put up with such nonsense?

Our window to win is this season and next season when Nash is still around with Amare.

So no more trade talks.

No more salary dumps.

And no more selling of picks.

We need to win. After all, you lucky fans in US have been paying for success for a long long time.

Anything else is not acceptable from the players and the management!

Comment 19 comments  |  0 recs  | 

Do you like this story?

Comments

Display:

Yeah the WSJ had something similar a year ago

I emailed this to Gambo(basically in a similar “WTF?”! sort of way) and he said that these numbers don’t take into account all of the debt that Sarver took on when he bought the team from Jerry. Who knows what’s really going on.

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Mar 4, 2010 6:03 PM MST reply actions  

the Suns have had

a top 5-10 payroll ever since Sarver took over. How can you call him cheap? Sure, he hasn’t been Mark Cuban. But he’s not cheap.

by Alex Laugan on Mar 4, 2010 6:46 PM MST reply actions  

lets see

what he does this offseason. If he lets the team sign a good free agent then he isn’t, but if he insist on this same team, then……………

by jatrex4suns on Mar 5, 2010 3:30 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

by "good"

do you mean “expensive”? The Suns won’t be allowed to sign anyone over mid-level ($5 mill) because they’ve already spent all their money. Same as last summer, in which they used that $5 mill to sign 2 players: Grant Hill and Channing Frye. Given the production and minutes these two offer, would you agree those are “good” free agent signings?

On the other hand, trades are a better way to improve the overall talent on the team, but that’s more Kerr’s job than Sarver’s because the money would have to be even.

Twitter: @dahking
Too late to change the stupid twitter name. Did it as a joke to my teenager, but now I'm hooked on the news-feed aspect of twitter.

by Alex Laugan on Mar 8, 2010 7:13 AM MST up reply actions  

Funny.

That kind of thinking led to selling draft picks and other “cheap” behaviors. Most of the Suns major upgrades and downgrades in the Sarver administration have been via trade.

Twitter: @MikeLisboa

by Mike Lisboa on Mar 9, 2010 11:50 AM MST up reply actions  

I've looked at these numbers before

there’s a lot not accounted for in their accounting…

Blogging Suns Basketball . twitter: @sethpo

by Seth Pollack on Mar 4, 2010 8:04 PM MST reply actions  

That’s great, but as a fan, I have no reason to be interested in the Suns’ profitability unless I am a potential investor.

I too wouldn’t call Sarver cheap, because I have no idea how much money he has lost in this economy. For all I know, he’s losing his shirt.

by 8472species on Mar 4, 2010 8:05 PM MST reply actions  

i don't understand this comment

just how are you NOT calling him cheap?

by Alex Laugan on Mar 4, 2010 9:12 PM MST up reply actions  

Marcus Camby makes 9 million

Who would you trade from the Suns for that amount of salary, whose minutes would you give him, and still believe we are a better team (an actual trade that fits the salary cap)?

And then Gooden: there’s a reason he’s on his 985th team in the last 3 years.

Twitter: @dahking
Too late to change the stupid twitter name. Did it as a joke to my teenager, but now I'm hooked on the news-feed aspect of twitter.

by Alex Laugan on Mar 9, 2010 6:47 AM MST up reply actions  

As a fan....

I don’t care if Sarver loses the shirt off his back, or makes billions of dollars, Just WIN A DAMN CHAMPIONSHIP!
I don’t care about the contract, the luxury tax, the new CBA, or any of that “Owner” stuff, it’s not important to me. What is important is the Suns on the basketball court and getting W’s. That is all.

/rant over.

by Chucko667 on Mar 9, 2010 8:36 PM MST reply actions  

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

Welcome to the SB Nation blog devoted to all things Phoenix Suns.

Friend Us On Facebook

Follow us on Twitter

Follow BrightSideSun on Twitter

RSS Feeds

Bright Side Of The Sun Feeds


Managers

Seth_twitter_pic_4_small Seth Pollack

13531_1236944896270_1608674153_605227_1328752_n_small Wil Cantrell

Editors

Nash_3_small East Bay Ray

Authors

Divinginlevanto_small PHXgp

Eutychus_logo_small Eutychus

1216horry-autosized258_small Alex Laugan

Photo_3111433_9952_1451357_main_small 7footer