Steve Nash Playing Through Considerable Pain
When NBA observers called the Suns window closed and gave this team little chance at making any noise in the playoffs, or even making the playoffs, one reason was the age of the team's best player and his sidekick Grant Hill.
Watching Grant hobble out of the showers after every home game is painful to watch. But through a combination of good diet, rest and a strict regimen of stretching and other treatments, Hill is feeling the best he's felt all season.
Unfortunately, Steve Nash is at his worst physically right now.
Tonight in the locker room after losing to the Jazz in a game where he had 14 points, 15 assists and 7 turnovers but went 0-3 in the critical fourth quarter, Nash grimaced in pain while putting his arms through the sleeves of his shirt.
The combination of a mysterious lower abdominal strain that's been hanging around for weeks now and a flair up of his chronic back issues are taking their toll.
"I'm sore when I wake up in the morning," said a frustrated Nash."It's mentally and physically fatiguing to play physically at a deficit for so long...I can't do the things I want to do and it's painful out there but I've got to find a way to suck it up right now...Hopefully I'm not hurting the team."
The Suns have one more game on Saturday against the Indiana Pacers and then have an unusual 5 days off before their next game the following Friday against the Lakers. Coach Gentry has already said that he intends to rest Nash during that entire break.
By the time that Lakers game rolls around, the Suns should also have his understudies back on the court. Goran Dragic suffered a grade 1 sprain to his right ankle late in the Suns win over the Clippers on Wednesday and Leandro Barbosa is recovering from wrist surgery. Barbosa has been medically cleared and is expected to return when the break is over. He was shooting jump shots in pre-game warm-ups without the extensive tape and obvious pain that plagued him before his surgery. Dragic's ankle is expected to heal quickly.
Nash is hopeful that the time off will help but he doesn't sound too confident either. Instead he talked about how having Dragic and Barbosa back will give the team "options".
For now, Steve continues to do what he can which as Coach Gentry has pointed out is still better than most point guards in the league even at 50% health.
He continues to rack up assists at about 11 per game but his three point percentage has "dropped" three or four points to 40% and he is 1-9 from three in the last three games. The two point shooting has gone from a scorching 52% through January down to 45% in February and March. As result of the decline in shooting and fewer attempts, Nash's scoring has dropped from 20.5 ppg in December to 13.5 ppg in February.
Nash describes the impact of his injuries on his game this way, "I have no thrust. Every movement my back tightens and stops me from going somewhere. Our training staff does a great job to even get me out there at all."
Suns fans have reason to worry. If Nash isn't healthy and playing at his best like he was early in the season, the Suns will certainly struggle in the playoffs.
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One more game, and then 5 days rest..
This is like 05-06 all over again, with Nash’s gimpy back.
bear in mind, we’re 7 & 3 over the last 10 games, so there’s a good shot we can win 14 or 15 games, between now and the end of the season, putting us at 54 wins, or so, and possibly securing a top 4 seed in the West
Here are the prospects for the remaining 19 games of the season:
- Nash comes back healthy
- Goran and LB come back healthy
- Hill and Amare get some rest.
With our improved defense, and the other teams, with the exception of Cleveland, not firing on all 4 cylinders, there’s a very good chance we could go deep into the playoffs. We have 19 games, to basically tune up our team, and tighten a few things. But things are not looking too shabby.
Hopefully, Alvin can figure a way to get Collins some time, to give us another useful body at the 4/5, especially against the Lakers and Cavs, and then, I think, we’re good to go.
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Did not realize
it was this bad. Hell sit him against INDY, give him a big break.
Last night was one of those tough losses. Utah is a team I am starting not to like, goodness they shot the 3 in the 4th.
Oh well, still can catch them, Suns need to get the 4th seed.
we can't
without Dragic and Barbosa, you just can’t sit Nash. No way we win with hill and dudley our point guards.
Where is Zabian Dowdell playing now? He knows the system from summer league
if we could
sign a guy to a 10-day contract, he could play a bit on Sat night and let Nash rest. But then we could release him when the other guys get back.
yes... yes... yes...
I don’t know why we don’t have a 3rd string PG anyways…. atleast a combo 1/2 would be nice… we need to sign a guy to a 10-day contract… let Dragic and man the point and let Nash get healthy…
He is too important to this team in so many ways… if he isn’t 100% in the playoffs we don’t have much of a chance…
I admire his grit but Gentry NEEDS to step in and tell him to take a seat…
Well, technically we do have a 3rd string PG ... Barbosa
It just so happens that both of our backups are injured right now. But yeah, if the Suns think Nash’s pain is going to linger, they should look at picking someone up for the remainder of the season.
yeah i guess i consider Barbs more of a 2-guard... but yeah he can fit the bill...
i completely forgot about Barbs because he has been such a non-story this year…
yeah
Gentry’s biggest problem this year is trusting his bench. When he does, he is rewarded. When he doesn’t, he brings back starters too early and they are gassed by end of game (last night, nash played entire 4th; i think Hill too)
Antonio Daniels is a decent vet FA
He’s available…wouldn’t mind him for 10 days.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Sign Curtis Stinson...
Why you ask? I’ll tell you….
1) Cheap, fits the bill of a 10-day player
2) 2nd in the D-League in assists… 1st in assists per 48
3) Is on the Suns D-League affiliate
4) If he does do well we have the inside track on getting a solid young backup PG for cheap which you know Sarver will like
5) Shoots with great percentages so you know atleast that will translate over
http://www.nba.com/dleague/playerfile/index.jsp?player=curtis_stinson
+1
i think it might be late for that as we are entering a stretch of rest after which all our players should be back. It wouldn’t hurt to have another guard preferably an SG as we a defensive guy to help in the playoffs. I think Michael Finley might be available
Finley has been signed by the Celtics.
Further making them the oldest team in the NBA.
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by Trevor Paxton on Mar 5, 2010 9:06 AM MST up reply actions
I absolutely agree. It just couldn’t hurt to get one. The other thing is, I’m annoyed that Nash is playing through pain in the first place. His team needs him in the playoffs in good condition.
What about Dragic?
I think we’re all forgetting about our Slovenian Wonder Kid.
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by Trevor Paxton on Mar 5, 2010 9:06 AM MST up reply actions
If Nash is out Dragic can only play the PG so much...
Even if Dragic plays 36 minutes a game we need someone to come in for the other 12… I know we have Hill but lets get an actual point guard in there
well the more I think about it
the more I think we should just rest Nash on Saturday, giving him a full 8 days before the Lakers game. He really needs to get himself right.
But then who would start at point? Coro's blog said that Goran might be out for Indy too
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
i like what Kerr has done with the depth on this squad but not keeping 3 PGs while having T-Griff rotting on your bench is just assinine
actually
with Nash, Dragic and Barbosa (and Hill) we were supposed to have plenty of PGs for the game. The problem was going to be finding enough minutes for each.
only Nash and Dragic are points guards really...
the others can play it in spots but aren’t great options
well
it would have to be Hill, with Dudley and JRich backing up. Lots of iso, prob painful outcome. But one loss now is better than a few key losses later in the year when we need Nash even more.
He might deserve to start
Due to work ethic, but after watching last night’s game…he’s not the best option for anything on the offensive end, unless it’s within 2 feet of the basket.
Or a lucky 15 foot shot.
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by Trevor Paxton on Mar 5, 2010 9:07 AM MST up reply actions
Yeah, I think a better option is to have Grant at the point and start Channing Frye at the Three..
Jarron Collins can be the Big Man off the bench…Lot of size, plus bring in Dudley to spell Grant for a few minutes here and there..
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not many options really...
Hill at the PG, J-rich at SG, Clark at SF?, Stat, and Lopez could be OK but I would much rather have a true PG out there….
i know i'm the minority....
but Lou does nothing for me, I cringe every time he takes the court. I’d rather develop EC and watch him shoot bricks than watch Lou.
i don't know what being a minority has to do with this...
so you hate Lou because your a minority? whatever….
anyways… Lou is what he is… a solid, hustle and energy guy off the bench…. his shot is ugly as hell and isn’t the most effective offensive player but he is a good rebounder and solid defender…. you could do much worse off the bench
lol....I'm not sure if you're joking about the minority part or not
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
this is funny....
clearly you think their is only 1 definition of minority. By saying, “i’m the minority”, I mean that I am one of the few people that don’t enjoy watching Lou, whereas “the majority” of Suns fans like his game, get it?
depth
Even though Coach Gentry does not snub his bench like his predecessor, the depth of this team is not huge, and because of the injuries, the depth is temporarily very thin. No Barbosa; no Dragic; Nash probably should not be playing; Earl Clark does not contribute yet; Taylor Griffin is not a factor; Jarron Collins doesn’t get enough time to make his limited contribution in the first place; Grant Hill is good when he’s not too tired; Channing Frye does only one thing particularly well.
It's good to hear
That Dragic’s sprain was only a grade 1 – I was (and still kind of am) worried about how he will respond to the injury because I heard Al McCoy say last night that Goran told him he had never sprained an ankle EVER playing ball before in his life, so this was his first time. Hopefully he straps on his Slovenian man suit and can be back and 100% asap.
I’m also to have Barbosa back with a healthy wrist and WELL rested legs – I think a lot of us here have forgotten or even given up on what a contributor LB is to the success of this team when he is healthy. No longer would we have to play 1 starter at nearly all times with the bench group, and between Frye, LB, and at times Dudley and Goran we could have 4 potential 20 pts + scoring threats scorching our bench unit – that is good stuff man.
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
*I'm also EXCITED (2nd paragraph)
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
There is no reason to sign a contract player for the PG position.
Next week we will have both Goran and Barbosa back. You are lobbying for a back up point guard that would be utilized in ONE GAME tomorrow AGAINST THE INDIANA PACERS.
No need to get all crazy – we have a lot of rest coming up and plenty of time for guys to get health and collected before this last stretch before the Playoffs.
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
just sign a guy to a 10-day and give him spot minutes so Nash can get an extra day off or so to really recover...
10-day contracts are for like $5 and a bag of skittles so its not like we’d be investing a whole lot
maybe Mr. Sarver said no to this
I agree, but could it be that the Suns aren’t going to get a 10-day PG, despite it being very low-risk, because Mr. Sarver doesn’t want to pay one? That could also be one reason why except for Taylor Griffin, there aren’t any strictly practice players like Burke, Piatkowski, Jumaine Jones, Sean Marks, etc.
i don't think...
that Sarver cares about 10K or so it takes to sign a 10-day as long as the guys plays. I think its more that Gentry doesn’t want to give the guy any minutes, given the logjam in the rotation.
As for Griffin, i think the Suns envision another Dudley type in him, except with more hops. Not that it will really work out, but many thought Dragic was a wasted pick last year too
Those guys were strictly practice players because D’Antoni refused to go more than 8 deep.
by underxthebridge on Mar 5, 2010 1:54 PM MST up reply actions
It's so funny thinking back on D'Antoni's "bench"
When Barbosa comes back, we’ll have basically 10 players (maybe 11, if you count Clark) fighting for regular playing time. Only Jarron Collins and Taylor Griffin are considered true bench warmers. Could you imagine D’Antoni having an 11-man rotation? He would find any old schmuck just to fill a roster spot so they could get to 13, knowing he’d only play 7 MAYBE 8 guys.
FYI we're playing the Pacers...
And we dominated the first 3 quarters of a game that was the 2nd night of a B2B against a well rested team – we ran out of gas, plain and simple.
There is no point in signing a guy for 10-days… scrambling to teach him the offense – throw him on the court, and expect him to run the offense and impact the game more than if Grant Hill or JYD were running the point.
Why spend money – it would be like spending the extra 10 dollars to buy the super deluxe car wash right after you watched the news which said it would be raining for the next 5 days. Pointless.
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
ah but if you have a big date that night
it might be worth the carwash upgrade if only for a few hours.
I was thinking only in terms of the pacer game, to let Nash rest and fill some minutes as needed. And only in terms of Dowdell, who knows the offense from summer league. No other options really fit the bill, for the reasons you gave
+1
To all three of your comments here. How much did you miss Goran last night, jeez… just goes to show how far he’s come.
by underxthebridge on Mar 5, 2010 10:44 AM MST up reply actions
I think I missed
his defensive pressure and his ability to command transition respect because of his ability to initiate the fast break or bring the ball up and penetrate – With Hill and the others grabbing the ball to call and run plays the Jazz had plenty of time to linger on the offensive glass and absolutely devastate us with some Off-Reb that just killed momentum.
With Dragic usually that wouldn’t be such an issue.
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
If Goran was healthly, we would have won, no doubt in my mind..
Steve looked like a man that had given everything he had, but didn’t have any more to give…Felt bad for him as I sensed he wanted that win last night…
The bruising that the Jazz (Ther Jazz don’t fool around..!) put on him plus the injuries definitely took its toll..He needs some reset definitely..but unless we just throw away the Indy game he has to at least play 20-30 minutes…
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Last night was the second time that stands out to me over the last few games where I wanted Dragic in the game over Nash. The first time was when Goran caught Billups’ elbow with his lip and Nash had to come back in.
Kind of surreal to catch yourself in the middle of that thought process.
by underxthebridge on Mar 5, 2010 1:57 PM MST up reply actions
I have this thought fairly regularly
particularly when a guard is killing us offensively. The Dragon has pretty effective on-ball defense and it comes in handy.
No doubt
It’s an amazing change of pace from years prior.
by underxthebridge on Mar 5, 2010 4:13 PM MST up reply actions

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