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Suns Bash Pacers In Feisty Battle: 113-105

All of a sudden a pretty routine game goes from a quiet late night at the library to a pumped up dance party with DJ JRich spinning the discs - thanks to Earl Watson and Channing Frye mixing it up.

Here's the blow by blow as I saw it from the replays:

  • Watson runs into a Frye pick and slaps Channing's hands and then shoves him a little in the mid-section and turns to cover Steve
  • Frye pushes Watson in the back of the head which prompts Granger to come at Channing with two hands to the chest
  • Channing swings and chaos errupts...not too much chaos but enough for JRich and Roy Hibbert to dance a bit
  • Jason, Granger and Hibbert get T'd up and Frye gets tossed. I am fairly sure they gave him one T for the shove on Watson and another for the swing at Granger. We'll see if Frye gets any games for that. He definitely lost his cool with that shove to the back of Watson's head
  • Can't really blame Granger for sticking up for his guy or Hibbert or Jason from that point on

That got the crowd riled up and Granger who shushed the crowed after hitting the T instantly became the villain getting boo'd every time he touched the ball.

The Suns were up 87-83 at that point and managed to close out the ugly contest.

It didn't seem to be an especially chippy game up to that point although Lou and McRoberts got tangled up in the 1st half and drew the double T's and Dunleavy took an elbow from JRich in the chest (kind near his arm pit) that knocked him out of the game. That one seemed inadvertent from the replay I saw.

The refs were calling a tight game all along with 40 free throws taken by half time and a total of 72 by the time the night was over.

Frye also tweaked his shoulder in the 1st quarter on a routine play. Seems like it popped out but went right back in. It looked pretty bad when he was walking walking off the court hunched over with the arm hanging motion-less at his side. He was back on the bench and then in the game by the middle of the second quarter though. Eventful night for him.

Amare continued to feast on the Pacers finishing with 30 points against the team he's averaged the most points against in his career. Jason and Grant did their part as well (20 and 22), as Nash did just enough to survive the game hitting some big shots in the third when Phoenix was flat. He finished with 12 points and 5 assists.

The Pacers had 24 second chance points at the half and finished with 34. Gentry won't be happy about that but a win is a win.

It wasn't a pretty game with both teams missing a ton of shots and spending a lot of time at the line but the fans at least had some fun thanks to Channing.

The win is the Suns' 40th on the season and 1900th for the franchise overall.

Star-divide

Locker Room Report

Channing Frye was a bit contrite in the locker room but insisted that he didn't throw a punch in the fracas. Certainly looked it to me watching the replays. He might have even swung twice, once at Granger and once at Hibbert. Hibbert also looks like he took a few jabs at Nash while the ref was restraining him.

"I was just setting a screen to Steve and Earl swatted my hands away the first time and that wasn't a big deal and the second time - I don't think it was the right play," said Frye. "I want to emphasize it's not my style of play to be mushing people and doing stuff like that. But I think at a certain point you've got to protect yourself and you can't just allow a play like that. I know the ref called it, but at that point I kind of took things into my hands which wasn't the right play."

And yes, Channing said "mushing". That's not a typo. Listen for yourself:

Nash joked that he'll probably end up getting suspended as well. You might recall last season he got one game for "escalating" the little tussle with the Rockets.

This time, if anyone's going to get suspended for escalation it would be Danny Granger who said this, "They were playing dirty and throwing cheap shots at one of my teammates. That's the tale of the tape. Watch the tape yourself and you'll see what happened."

As for the crowd reaction he got for "shhing" the fans after hitting the technical free throw he said, "I love it. I absolutely love it when you can get the entire auditorium chanting "you suck," that's pretty nice I think."

Nash is still playing through pain and is uncertain if the five days off will be enough to get him right.

Here's the video. The fight starts at about the 1:30 mark. In this one they imply some kind of carry over from the last time Suns were in Indiana and Earl elbowed Nash in the face. No one here thinks there's a connection but apparently Frye and Earl shoved a bit on an earlier play after a Frye dunk.


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More pictures of the altercation from Max Simbon who missed the initial flare up but caught the rest:

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Game Notes

1st Qtr

  • Nice block by Amare to get things started. Thought he was beat for sure. He does like the Pacers. Has his best average against them at 24.3 over his career
  • And Robin blocks Granger on the 2nd trip down the floor
  • Hibbert got good deep post position on Robin off a screen and roll and still missed a 3ft hook. Because he's Roy Hibbert. Due is tall and he seems to have thinned out some
  • 3 quick fouls on the Suns...that's less than optimal
  • and Robin picks up his 2nd. Not smart, Robin. Frye checks in
  • TJ Ford looks tiny next to Nash....nothing more needs to be said
  • Down 15-9. Needless to say the effort is less than impressive which of course results in a time out by Gentry which Alvin spends arguing w/ the ref about a no-call on Amare in the paint
  • Things you don't see every day: Hill was fouled and made the hoop. They initially said it was before the shot but Alvin went nuts and argued and the refs gathered and reversed the call and gave Hill the continuation.
  • Wonder if Gentry gets 2 points in the box score for that?
  • After the time out, Suns on 5-0 run
  • Suns playing the zone already as Pacers go small
  • If you were expecting more funny from these notes you are going to be disappointed...sorry. There's really nothing funny here and I am not in a funny mood. I am fickle that way
  • Some guy named Watson checked in for the Pacers. I have no clue who that is. None. Not even a hint of one. Only Watson in the L I know if CJ and he's w/ the Warriors unless he got sent down to the minor league Pacers team
  • But are the Pacers more minor league than the Warriors? No. No they are not
  • Mike Dunleavy playing. I wonder if they chant "Fire..Dunleavy" when he plays in LA against the Clippers?
  • Damn. Channing did something to his sholder. He's hurt bad. Not moving his right arm at all. Didn't really see what happened. Lou in
  • Suns up 24-23 btw. I had to look up to check. I had NO IDEA what the score was
  • JRich hits a three and Suns go up 29-25
  • Channing at first went to the bench were Aaron Nelson was checking him out. I could see Channing struggle to raise his right arm. After short period of time he went back to the training room. Suns doctor went as well.
  • Hope he's alright. I saw the replay but didn't really see what happened but he grabbed it immediately. Walking over to the bench he never moved his right arm and was hunched over in pain
  • JRich lead Suns with 9 points (2/3 from 3). Amare with 8. Suns shot 45%, Pacers 25% but they got 7 OReb and went to the line a ton (11/12 from FT)

2nd Qtr

  • They are calling it a "Subluxed Right Shoulder" and are saying that Frye will return.
  • In the meantime the Suns have Lopez, Lou, Clark, Hill and Dudley on the floor. Crazy line up
  • Dudley gets striped leads to a run out. Clark is on Granger
  • This crazy 2nd unit at least keeping things even
  • The offense is simple. Post up Hill against Earl Watson (I remember him!!!)(I thought he was in an old folks home)
  • Surprisingly, this lineup looks a bit confused out there - kind of like a pack of 3rd graders just running all over the place bumping into things
  • Gentry seems to agree. JRich in for Earl who was Kindergartner among school kids
  • And JRich runs the pick and roll with Robin and gets him a dunk
  • Hill with the sweet drive, ball fake and finish
  • Ohhh...Lou fight! He gets tangled up with McRoberts and ends up in a tiff. Double T. Doesn't really rise to a tussle
  • Nash, Amare and Frye in the game. Suns up 44-40 with 5:45 to go in the half
  • Amare w/ another great block! leads to JRich 3
  • Everybody clap your hands...clap, clap..clap your hands
  • Go ahead do it. No one will know
  • Giving up too many ORebs. 9 so far. Of course the Pacers are shooting 30%. If the Suns grab half those they are up by at least 5 more points
  • Hey from up hear I can see a bald spot developing on Majerle's head
  • The Kiss Cam is a new feature at Suns games. It can go away now. I don't need to see old people smooching thank you very much
  • Suns slowly pulling away. Up 55-46
  • Amare's been playing really well btw. That's worth saying. Suns are going to him every time right now b/c the Pacers are trying to guard him with Granger which isn't working so well...for them
  • Defense chant by PA guy goes unanswered by crowd...no one is really that interested in playing or even cheering for defense right now
  • Which really isn't fair since the Pacers are only shooting 32%. Of course they are the Pacers so that's on them too. Not to mention this is the last game of a tough West road trip for them and they played last night in Denver so...
  • Oh sure...Granger hits a late three followed by Earl Watson stealing the in bound pass and hitting another three. Suns up 63-57 but it should be 63-51 but it isn't
  • But at least the refs showed up and brought their Gorilla whistles - 40 FTA's combined so far. Hope the fans appreciate the effort from those refs
  • Amare w/ 17, 5 and 2 blks. Jason and Grant with 13 each. Grant has 7 FTAs and 3 FGAs

3rd Qtr

  • Pacers with 24 2nd chance points in the 1st half. That's the only reason this game is close. Suns clean that up this game will be over before the 4th
  • Robin comes down and misses a little hook in the lane so Hibbert responds with a miss of his own on the other end
  • Nash not doing too much. He's coasting through this game just trying to survive
  • Nash hits a pull-up J to prove my point
  • Pacers hit a couple of three's to tie the game. Gentry calls a time out. Sounds familiar
  • Robin looks more irritated than normal
  • Looking sloopy out there
  • Good thing the Pacers don't have a point guard that can make Nash have to play defense
  • As long as the Suns win, I am not going to worry about the less than stellar performance
  • Goran wearing a grey suit w/ black shirt. LB in some kind of fancy jeans, brown blazers and white shirt. I think I am going w/ LB for better dressed of the two. Goran's hair looks good though
  • Nash picks up a charge after Frye gives up the ball. Amare looks around like, "how don't I get that call?"
  • Because he's Nash and you're Amare. Fair?
  • Nash seems have had enough of this mess. Scores again
  • Dudley trying to pretend he's Grant Hill slashing to the lane and doing the finger roll. He's no Grant Hill
  • Sweet pass from Dudley to JRich for the jam
  • Pacers going at Channing in the post w/ Hibbert
  • Hibbert is 8/8 from the line. I kind of like him. I think he's going to break out next year
  • Oooh. That blew up fast!!!
  • Frye right in the middle of this one...
  • Looks like Watson was slapping Frye's hands away and then shoves Frye and turns, Frye pushed him in the back on the head, Granger goes after Frye w/ two hands to the chest, Frye swings, Hibbert and JRich mix it up  a bit as well
  • JRich, Granger and Hibbert get T'd up. Frye tossed
  • Looks like Collins coming in shoot the free throws for Frye who was fouled on the play. They should have picked Lou to shoot it. Jarron hits the shot and then rolls to the basket and draws a foul on Hibbert
  • Crowd is riled up
  • This game just got interesting at least. Granger shooting the T gives the crowd the hush sign after draining it. He just became a fan target (but I like it...he stuck up for his guy and showed some spunk)
  • Suns up 93-86

4th Qtr

  • Suns up 10 at this point. Energy went from late night library to Friday night club in a heart beat
  • Robin running around looking to take someone's head off. Calm down and win the game
  • Fans booing Granger every time he touches the ball
  • Suns travel - another empty possession. Calm down. Poise
  • 96-92
  • Amare and Nash come in and restore some order. Suns on a 7-2 run up 103-94
  • Granger hits a three and does the finger to the mouth hush sign again...no he's really looking for some hate. He's all fired up and has 5 fouls with 4 minutes to go
  • Suns up 107 - 100 with 4 min to go
  • Hibbert and Robin fighting it out in the paint. Fun to see
  • Pacers miss several three's that could have made it interesting.  Gentry pissed about giving up the OReb's
  • Suns keep going to Amare in the paint. That's working well. Hibbert fouls out with 1:59 to go. Up 109-103

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A chippy game with a lot of players hurting. Great thing we got the win. Also, good thing we have a 5 day rest before we beat the crap out of the Lakers on Friday.

by Beavis 25 on Mar 6, 2010 9:57 PM MST reply actions  

Guys, do take note that Amare's offensive rebounds are steadily picking up even over the last 2 games

Kindly note that with Nash injured and his high TOs, Amare’s opponent will have an easier time with the opposing point guard helping him as Nash can’t guard anyone right now…

We need to change our backcourt until both our guards are back in shape.

Why not GH as PG and Louis as a defensive SG for a change?

by magenta on Mar 6, 2010 10:25 PM MST reply actions  

Lou as SG?

seriously?

The Suns have 5 days off. Goran and LB will be back for the next game…lets chill

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by Seth Pollack on Mar 6, 2010 10:31 PM MST up reply actions  

Why not? Eventually everyone has to learn to play without Nash and to create their own shots

Stop Nash and you’ll stop the Suns is something we need to rehearse against…

by magenta on Mar 6, 2010 10:47 PM MST up reply actions  

wow ok...

Lou will never be an adequate shooting guard. How bout we just bring a couple guys who know how to play the position – maybe one from Slovenia and one from Brazil. ;)

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by Alex Laugan on Mar 7, 2010 7:35 AM MST up reply actions  

and maybe

a 37 y/o SF who can isolate on his man and get a shot or a starting shooting guard who went to MSU and post up his man or isolate and drive or pull up and shoot (see also game vs Thunder)

Perhaps an all-star power forward who we can dump the ball to in the high or mid post area who can face up and drive his man of simply shoot a J if they play back….

Suns are better equipped to deal with teams “taking out Nash” than they have been since he’s been here…or maybe we should just play Jarron Collins at the SG

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by Seth Pollack on Mar 7, 2010 10:41 AM MST up reply actions  

I can’t say I want Lou Amundson to be a shooting guard—don’t be ridiculous—but I admire coaches willing to try crazy lineups. The Suns coach whom I remember doing it all the time was Paul Westphal.

by 8472species on Mar 6, 2010 11:00 PM MST up reply actions  

He can't cover guards

he can’t even cover small forwards…he’s too slow, those guys would go right by him

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by Seth Pollack on Mar 6, 2010 11:25 PM MST up reply actions  

maybe you’re mixing up lou and dudley? because the lou i know can’t shoot 3s….

Banzai!

by Suns' Sensei on Mar 6, 2010 11:35 PM MST up reply actions  

haha. dudley i could see playing SG in a pinch. not ideal obviously, but with the injuries we have right now, i think its something that should be considered if we’re still not full strength by the time the lakers come into town.

Banzai!

by Suns' Sensei on Mar 6, 2010 11:39 PM MST up reply actions  

Barbosa

Looked absolutely GREAT during pre-game shoot around tonight. He was ON FIRE!!!

I only saw him miss once from beyond the arc when I was watching him…I think he definitely could’ve played tonight, but they probably wanted to be safe and wait till after this mini-break to get him more prepared and in game-shape again.

by 7footer on Mar 7, 2010 12:08 AM MST up reply actions  

Really? Great. Thanks for that information.

by 8472species on Mar 7, 2010 11:10 AM MST up reply actions  

some perspective on the team's depth

The Yahoo sports recap says the Suns are missing “their top two backup guards”—Barbosa and Dragic. The thing is, Dragic and Barbosa aren’t the top two backup guards, they’re the only backup guards! Until Dragic gets back, the backcourt is literally two players deep, not counting players playing it out of position. I think the loss of Channing Frye (not to say he is a guard) settles it: please, please sign some extra players.

by 8472species on Mar 6, 2010 10:49 PM MST reply actions  

hey folks, breathe

Without the top 2 backup guards, and with Nash so hobbled that he gets pedestrian 10 and 5, we still score better than the other teams.

Now that the Pacer game is over, we just let the guys heal for a week and see what we look like with all of them back. We can withstand nash’s lingering pain a lot better with Dragic and Barbosa filling in.

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by Alex Laugan on Mar 7, 2010 7:38 AM MST up reply actions  

Weird Game!

Glad to get the win…

Does anyone have any info on the Verve “Soul Patrol” member who seriously injured themselves between the 3rd and 4th quarter…being carried off in a stretcher? I hope he’s ok!

Also, great game from Dudley tonight, he was the spark plug and a key contributor towards our win! AWFUL game from Robin Lopez tonight though. I hope this is the one step back he takes and then continues his remarkable progression. He’s too talented to have anymore games like tonight. Not just offensively, but defensively as well.

by 7footer on Mar 6, 2010 11:13 PM MST reply actions  

He hurt his hip or something

the KTAR boys I just asked said they talked to the team doc and it wasn’t anything too serious

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by Seth Pollack on Mar 6, 2010 11:26 PM MST up reply actions  

Thanks!

Thanks for the info Seth…It looked much worse the way he was lying there for so long, then leaving on a stretcher. Glad he’s ok…Hate to see any injuries to players, or otherwise.

by 7footer on Mar 6, 2010 11:45 PM MST up reply actions  

collins?

I can’t seem to understand why Collins never is able to secure any court time, with the exception of substituting player’s ejections? He seems to be a perfectly capable veteran that could play solid minutes with the shorter rotation we have from injuries. The only logical conclusion I can reach is that he slept with Gentry’s wife.

by huffgarr on Mar 6, 2010 11:31 PM MST reply actions  

Ha, that general sort of thing has happened before in Suns history…

by 8472species on Mar 6, 2010 11:34 PM MST up reply actions  

Nope

But tonight, I would’ve given him a few more of Robin’s. Probably the worst game I’ve seen from Lopez this season. Terrible defensive awareness and ineffective offense. And only a handful of rebounds as well!

I hope he “rebounds” (pun intended) from this and comes back stronger and smarter. He can’t keep losing track of his man they way he did tonight; allowing open lanes and passes into the low post.

by 7footer on Mar 6, 2010 11:57 PM MST up reply actions  

might not even be able to, his flag 1 on AK at the end of the utah game just got bumped to a flag 2

by vdub on Mar 6, 2010 11:58 PM MST up reply actions  

What?!?

Where did you hear/read this? Not good news if true…

by 7footer on Mar 7, 2010 12:00 AM MST up reply actions  

true

Robin confirmed it…no suspension though

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by Seth Pollack on Mar 7, 2010 12:01 AM MST up reply actions  

Good...

That’s all that matters…We can’t have him AND possibly Frye missing the next game.

by 7footer on Mar 7, 2010 12:05 AM MST up reply actions  

I love that picture with Nash.

He looks…I don’t know…almost smug. It’s hard to describe. But it’s great.

As far as Granger goes, the Suns get the ultimate comeback tonight: Scoreboard.

by Azreous on Mar 6, 2010 11:56 PM MST reply actions  

bad memories

why do we get screwed when we get into altercations?

let’s check out this equation real quick:
1. channing frye possible late hit on previous play, should be shrugged off.
2. earl watson then instigates altercation by slapping channing’s hands during a screen
3. channing gives him a big bump
4. earl throws shoulder into channing and runs off
5. channing pushes earl
6. danny granger comes in from nowhere to almost attack frye before getting restrained
7. roy hibbert also comes in too, and pretends to look hard
8. jason richardson, steve nash, and jared dudley restrain players from both sides
9. channing pushes off and defends himself, possible swing
10. channing gets double T and ejected
11. earl watson, who instigated the whole incident, gets 1 T and stays
12. jrich, who was restraining players gets a T
13. roy hibbert gets a T for looking like a tough girl in the fight
14. danny granger gets no T

pacers get one ft of their choice, and suns get one ft of pacers’ choice….

good thing this wasnt the playoffs (a la 2007)

by vdub on Mar 6, 2010 11:57 PM MST reply actions  

The first rule of Pillow Fight Club is you don't talk about Pillow Fight Club

There was a time, not so long ago, when this used to be a man’s game. I hate Stern for pussifying the NBA.

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by Pliny the Elder on Mar 7, 2010 12:10 AM MST up reply actions  

Even after Kermit, in 76, people played this game like men.

Hell, Robert Parish once punched Bill Laimbeer in the head, 2 or 3 times, and didn’t even get called for a foul. And McHale’s clotheslining of Kurt Rambis still makes the highlight reels (although back in the day it was called touch play)

Now lets be clear: I’m not advocating turning the NBA into a version of Murderball, I just want to stop the players from being treated as, and behaving as, five years olds. It seems to me, the game was far more entertaining back then.

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by Pliny the Elder on Mar 7, 2010 12:00 PM MST up reply actions  

Don't agree

They do go a bit overboard w/ the suspensions some times and since no one actually got hit in this one I am fine w/ no game lost for either side

But I don’t want to game to get back to what it was. You end up with players on rosters whose entire purpose is hitting people. The overall skill level declines and the more contact that’s allowed the less fluid and beautiful the game is.

These guys are too damn athletic and strong to tolerate them pounding on each other. They play a game for entertainment purposes. The league has a responsibility to do everything it can to keep them safe and if that means cracking down on physical play to prevent things from escalating than so be it.

If I want to see dudes hitting each other I will watch MMA

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by Seth Pollack on Mar 7, 2010 12:06 PM MST up reply actions  

you'd have a point except....

back in Bird’s & Magic’s day, the game was more fluid, more skillful, more beautiful and better than it is now, because teams put a premium on skill, rather than “athletic ability”, which as far as I can tell, means the ability to run a 40 yard dash quickly, and to jump high.

The Parish thing, btw, was extraordinary, and even back then he’d have been ejected if a) his target wasn’t Laimbeer, who’d been a irritant to everyone, including the refs, all game; and b) he wasn’t Robert Parish. So it’s not like these things were given a pass, although McHale’s foul would probably be called a flagrant 2 nowadays, with the concomitant ejection, instead of just a regular foul, even in the playoffs.

And I’d point out that Bird got ejected for fighting a ton of times, despite his status in the game. That feistiness of his was part of his mystique: a hard working, rough and tumble, win at all costs, small town boy.

Even as recently as when Barkley was playing here, the game was more physical, and I’d point out that one of Nash’s early career highlights with the Suns was a really hard foul he put on Avery Johnson, during the playoffs.

The history of the game, and particularly it’s “golden age”, is replete with examples of hard, but fair play. The Kermit Washington thing is unfortunate, basically because he reacted, while in a fight, to someone who was coming at him from behind, and Rudy T basically had no chance to do anything. But I’d also point out that at the time, many people such as Red Auerbach thought Kermit had been treated unfairly and over-harshly by the NBA.

I guess my point is this: while sports is a form of entertainment, it’s different from the others in that it posits a sincere attempt to compete at the highest level.

Hard work, desire and effort are generally so valued by most NBA aficionados, that we get upset and feel cheated when some players are visibly lacking in these qualities (cough Amare cough). In particular, we like to see toughness and passion for in the game in players, and for players to compete as hard as they can, even in the face of defeat.

So, when the NBA head office institutes these heavy-handed, zero-tolerance, thought-free rules (which are a relatively recent development, having come only in the last 10 years, or so), and makes decisions out of the context of the game itself, and takes them out of the hands of referees, it diminishes the ability of players to compete at the level he hope or expect them to, because the cost of making a mistake is automatically so drastic.

Those rules, are an overreaction, because this is what happens when you let lawyers run the asylum: rules are made to cover peoples asses, to reduce complex adjudication to a facile yes/no process, simply to reduce the possibility of legal exposure. I don’t blame David Stern completely here: what he’s doing is complete in sync with the tyranny of political correctness (from both sides), a legal system that people treat as a lottery, and the general dumbing down and decline of our society (but that’s a long rant for another day).

The effect, however, of those rules has been to treat honest mistakes and lapses in judgment and control, as if they were serious offenses, even if no actual harm happened. And then the NBA head office, or whoever is making a decision hides smugly behind the “rules are rules” excuse, without regard for the actual consequences of that ruling. The result is a less honest game, as a whole.

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by Pliny the Elder on Mar 7, 2010 1:46 PM MST up reply actions  

+1

I’d gamble that if players were allowed to play eighties ball, the league would not turn into a 1970s-style bloodbath where players fought all the time.

by 8472species on Mar 7, 2010 2:25 PM MST up reply actions  

SPOT ON ASSESSMENT SETH,LOVE THE FREE FLOWING BBALL OF THE SUNS.

by NASHIE13 on Mar 7, 2010 5:53 PM MST up reply actions  

Watson didn't even get a T

I was all good with how they handled the altercation except for just giving Watson a personal foul.

by hcblankscreen on Mar 7, 2010 12:18 AM MST up reply actions  

Im hoping after

the league looks at this they’ll assess penalties to EVERYONE that deserves one, included that little bitch Watson, but let’s face it, the Suns get no breaks when it comes to this kind of thing, even when they don’t retaliate.

I absolutely love Channing getting tough. His reputation is as soft as they come, and perhaps he did overreact, but virtually every team in the league thinks they can come in and push the Suns around. It’s the Western Conference thing.

Even if Gentry publicly says he doesn’t like it, bet he took Channing out for a beer afterwards.

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by Wil Cantrell on Mar 7, 2010 10:10 AM MST up reply actions  

Quite seriously, I have hated Watson’s face for years. It irritates me. I’m not making this up.

by 8472species on Mar 7, 2010 11:11 AM MST up reply actions  

Nash's face

“Listen buddy, you don’t wanna mess with me, see? You just don’t wanna, just go man.” He looks so amused.

Rotten that Channing will most likely get suspended, but it’s nice to see he has some fight.

Trying to rep Canada on the Bright Side.

by Willman on Mar 7, 2010 8:06 AM MST reply actions  

my interpretation was

" easy son..you’re not hittin anyone today…"

by Fritzy on Mar 7, 2010 12:48 PM MST up reply actions  

Watched it a few more times

on the HD w/ Tivo…

1) Dudley came down and hit Watson across the face. Clearly incidental but probably pissed him off a bit. That was about 1/2 through the 3rd
2) Frye dunked and then when he turned to run up the floor he ran right into Watson and sent him flying back. Frye may or may not have seen him there but Watson turned and gave him a look as he was running up the floor. Guessing that did play into it
3) JRich was awesome. He came in fast and fore checked Granger away from Frye and Dudley reacted quickly as well getting between Frye and a bunch of guys
4) Channing said he didn’t swing at Granger but it sure looked like a left cross BUT it was right after Granger ran at him with both hands and from what Channing said he was defending himself and making space
5) Coro in his post-fight review said Hibbert threw a few punches towards Nash but they didn’t look like punches as much as we has swinging his arms to get free of the ref and maybe kind of push at Nash
6) Coro also said it looked like Frye threw a little jab at Hibbert but that also looked more like him putting his hand up and making space than a punch

I don’t think Watson will or should get suspended for slapping at Frye’s hands
If Frye gets suspended and Granger doesn’t that would be VERY WRONG since Granger really set things off with his aggressive and quick move at Channing
Maybe Hibbert and Jason get fined for their actions

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by Seth Pollack on Mar 7, 2010 10:50 AM MST reply actions  

does this make Richardson and Dudley the good guys?

Not that I didn’t think so, but I’m glad to hear Frye’s teammates “had his back.” Was Nash also trying to help—is that why Hibbert went after Nash?

by 8472species on Mar 7, 2010 11:16 AM MST up reply actions  

(sorry, didn’t look hard enough at the photo)

by 8472species on Mar 7, 2010 11:19 AM MST up reply actions  

wasn't channing

integral part of that knicks-nuggets melee back in the days? If I remember well, teammate was pulling his jersey from the back trying to stop him… conclusion: he tends to lose his cool from time to time :-)

by zeze_999 on Mar 7, 2010 11:35 AM MST reply actions  

I love how Granger called us a dirty team.

by Beavis 25 on Mar 7, 2010 11:36 AM MST reply actions  

Ehh, he would probably call Shaquille O’Neal too thin.

by 8472species on Mar 7, 2010 2:26 PM MST up reply actions  

will Suns win 50?

Who thinks the Suns can reach 50 wins? There are 17 games left on the schedule, so the Suns have to win 10 of the next 17. Can they? I say probably.

by 8472species on Mar 7, 2010 2:28 PM MST reply actions  

i'm actually thinking 52 wins

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by Alex Laugan on Mar 7, 2010 3:33 PM MST up reply actions  

We are 9-3 since the all-star break. If we keep up that pace we will win more than 50 games. As long as we finish at the least 10-7 we will win 50 games.

by Beavis 25 on Mar 7, 2010 4:46 PM MST up reply actions  

I am glad to see a little fight in the Suns.

Tired of always being called a soft team. Sucks that Frye will probably miss a game. As for the Pacers, they need to remember to wear there tampons the next time they come to town.

by Gorilla Game on Mar 7, 2010 2:30 PM MST reply actions  

I love this....

not saying i want this team to be a bunch of assholes but atleast they have a little fire to them lately…

by Superelkman on Mar 7, 2010 6:01 PM MST reply actions  

Granger...

…should have been ejected too. Watson should have been T’d up 2wice for being a yippee fucking chihuahua that was bound to get kicked. Channing shouldn’t get suspended but he earned his T’s. Nash should have crosschecked Hibbert into the stands, just cause he’s Canadian. And Amare should have dunked Watson’s nuts, tomohawk style.

That’s just how ridiculous this game was.

by Gordon G on Mar 7, 2010 11:15 PM MST reply actions  

I think Channing will get suspended a game or 2

The NBA is pretty consistent on this. We are really lucky that Lopez wasn’t suspended for the AK hit as well, or we’d be really short-handed against the Lakers.

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by Alex Laugan on Mar 8, 2010 7:53 AM MST up reply actions  

Yea,

I can also see them possibly taking a few more Suns off the court if they want to be picky. But you know what. That’s ok, they defended themselfs and didn’t let that team push them around. That in my opinion has been our biggest issue on this team. Toughness, Thugishness (if thats a word?) whatever you want to call it. Having the guy you are gaurding or is gaurding you wondering if you might sock in the eye at any given bump isnt a bad thing. Gives a little competative edge. Bigger and meaner usually wins.

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by antiw0rm on Mar 8, 2010 7:59 AM MST up reply actions  

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