Should Nash sit out on Friday?
As you all know we play the Lakers this Friday. If we beat them we can even the season series 2-2 which would give our team more confidence for when we meet them in the playoffs. However, If Nash plays and we lose than its almost like we should have just rested him. The Lakers are a tough team to beat no matter their struggles and is it worth it to have an unhealthy Nash play against them? Or would it be better to let him heal up for the playoffs coming up in a month?
Right now we stand at a 40-25 record. We aren't that far from catching the Jazz 40-22, but the Spurs 36-25 and the Thunder 38-24 aren't that far from catching us. With that said, isn't every game important from here on out? Do we really want to risk sitting Nash against the Lakers just so he can get a few more days rest? On the other hand; how many of you would like to see Dragic start vrs the Lakers with Barbosa taking all those backup minutes for his first game back from injury?
Well, what do you guys think?
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I think working LB back into the rotation
And playing Nash at slightly less than normal minutes is what we should do.
Give Nash around 25 minutes, Dragic about 17-20 and LB somewhere around 10ish. Didn’t want to actually do the math to figure out how it would work between the two guard spots (JRich still needs minutes in there too), but yeah. Somewhere around that sounds about right.
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well, actually, I agree to sit Nash
But that could backfire and/or Nash and Gentry refuse to give that game away.
The second-best option is to play him against the Lakers but sit him at least 3 or 4 games between now and end of season so he doesn’t build up too much more wear and tear. Of course that could backfire too, causing us to lose all rhythm.
there’s really no great answer until summer time. At that point, we will all have a “better” plan than the one Gentry actually used, and claim to have “known” our plan would have been infinitely better and was obvious to everyone but those fools Kerr, Nash and Gentry. ;)
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give Nash at much rest as he needs--whatever amount that is
I don’t have the moderators’ inside knowledge of Nash’s injuries; it’s just that their reports claim Nash is pretty battered right now. If he’s that bad, will one week of rest get him right permanently? Or is it no better than a quick fix (you know, like the trainers taping his bleeding nose because that’s all they had time to do) that could easily be undone by one game? I don’t know, but let Nash play at one hundred percent, especially in the playoffs.
I say
from now till Nash heals fully, he should start but play very limited time (say 20-24 min) while Dragic takes the remaining time. LB starts with 10-12 min till he gets into shape playing his normal position (SG).
Nash is needed at 100% in the playoffs, hence should get the needed rest. It is not like we don’t have a Dragon tin our cave
Leave it up to Stevie....
Six days off in a lot of time…Plus, last game we didn’t have Dragic…No way Nash is not playing the Lakers.
We have upcoming games against some pretty bad teams…Let him rest then. Also, having a lot more home games down the home stretch will do a lot….People don’t factor how traveling can really exhaust an already injured player. Nash traveled like 39 million miles (give or take) during the All Star/Olympic weekend.
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a good side to our remaining schedule
14 f our last 18 games are against sub-.500 teams. Nearly of all these will be tanking in some form or another (subconsciously or blatantly) to improve their chance at john wall or evan turner. Gives the Suns a better opportunity to rest Nash without giving away games.
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I think maybe
I trust Steve and the trainers to know better how he’s feeling
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oh whatEVER!
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You're so rational, Seth!
The only person who’s going to bench Steve Nash is Steve Nash. The one thing going for us if he does play limited minutes is that Dragic is at least as good as or better than Fish and Farmar at this point in their careers. Granted, he doesn’t have Steve’s playmaking abilities so that hurts the offense as a whole, but on a position-by-position basis it’s not like Dragic is a big liability.
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he's probably more rational than Nash
Nash might want to play too badly, at the expense of his health. He wasn’t conservative enough to sit out a game against a losing team.
yes Nash and the trainers
will decide if he’s available. but its up to Gentry how many minutes he plays in a game. Does Nash really need to play the entire 1st and 3rd quarters, as he’s done lately? we give up last-second points regardless.
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I think Benching Nash for the lakeshow could affect our team mentally.
If we go far enough in the playoffs we’ll have to face them and do we really want those seeds of doubt in our players heads that the coaching staff has such little confidence in beating them that they would sit out best player.
I do think we need to get Nash rest but the west its so tight that until we have that little star next to us in the standings saying that we’ve clinched a playoff spot then i’m not keen on the idea of having him inactive. Maybe start Dragic and effectively switch Nash and Dragics roles but still have nash available as a closer if we need him in close games.
bench Nash to get into the Fakers' heads
Hey, what if Coach Gentry benched Nash against the Lakers in hopes of playing mind games with them as the Spurs did to the Suns in 2005? The morale probably wouldn’t be harmed if all the players understood what it was about.
well i think since Frye will be out this game…. they would prob move hill a litte bit to the 4 position like they did last year. allowing LB to get some playing time but agreed nash should truly sit out the game just minimal mins… maybe even a blowout to let Nash rest idk.
against the Lakers
the Suns really can’t go with a small line up like that with Hill and Lou playing the 3/4 or Nash, LB and JRich and Hill along w/ Amare or Robin. Too small.
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of course, that will fit the "maybe even a blowout to let Nash rest" suggestion
except it would be on the wrong end of happy
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by Alex Laugan on Mar 10, 2010 6:39 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree with the ideal of Nash playing, but with limited minutes. I think its good because it also gives more minutes for Barbosa to re-adjust.
if he needs the rest give it to him regardless of who they are playing...
the suns are going to make the playoffs… it is important that they put their best team forward when they get there
Nash will play his usual game
The team might miss Frye on the offensive end but won’t miss his defense (OLay) or rebounding. Look for Lopez to play well over 30 minutes. Lou and Jared should also get a little more pt. Barbosa won’t be good for much more than 2 or 3 minutes at a shift.
We could see several minutes of Nash and Dragic playing together.
It will be an interesting game but the Suns will have to have some fortunate bounces to win. When healthy, the Lakers are a matchup nightmare for most teams. Bynum is a Horse who can move. Odum or Artest and Gasol complete a front court that is really long and strong. These players can score and they can defend. Coby and anybody in the backcourt is about as good as it gets. The Suns might have an advantage when the second team comes in. I’ll be watching this game with great interest.
I wouldn't focus TOO much on it
Nash won’t be 100%, Frye will be out (meaning Lopez will pick THIS game to get into foul trouble, of course), the Suns will find a way to be “rusty” from the layoff, and the Laker front line will pound us. LB is usually a Laker killer (in yrs past) but he’s not 100%. Also, the Lakers are going to be pissed because their manhood is being tested n the media this week.
Sorry, not feeling too good about this game.
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Seriously...
That game against the Magic will have lit a fire under Kobe’s ass. Don’t be surprised to see him go off for 30+ with a few steals.
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by Trevor Paxton on Mar 9, 2010 6:16 PM MST up reply actions
i think
Lou should be brought in early to play Gasol and frustrate him so much he loses his flow, that will help free up Amar’e, hence we win most of the player matchup
Nash > Farmer
JRich < Kobe
Hill <= Artest
Amar’e >> Gasol
Lopez = Bynum
Bench >> Bench
not sure I agree
that we match up so well. It all depends on how well the Lakers play. if they play well, they beat us.
IMO:
Nash >> Farmer
JRich << Kobe
Hill <= Artest
Amar’e = Gasol
Lopez = Bynum
Bench >> Bench
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u're right
on a normal day, yes, but i was talking in a case where Lou is able to put off Gasol making Amar’e >> Gasol
ah
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oh god no.
you’re totally kidding right? the dude couldn’t play on any of his last 3 teams. no way. no way. no way.
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Sit Nash? Why would you?
I don’t want to be mean about it, but why would you even write a fanpost like this?
If you played Nash against the Pacers with only a couple days rest why would you sit him against your arch rival at home with 5 days rest?
Come on now Beavis, What were yo thinking in writing this? Are you an underground Lakers fan or just stoned when you wrote this? We’re fighting for playoff position and here on out every game is big.
If our playoff position were set and this was the last game of the season before the first round then that would be a different story. But it is not. Why would you sit him if he’s capalbe of playing. A Steve Nash at 60 or 70 % is still better than most point guards in the league and we have seen how he can adjust his game to compensate for physical limitations — that is what great players do. Plus, Mike said it above :
The only person who’s going to bench Steve Nash is Steve Nash.
Sorry, but your post was nonsensical.
Don't be such an asshole
Maybe if you’d read his “nonsensical” post, you would’ve picked up that he’s posting a topic for discussion and never said whether he’d bench Nash or play him.
by hcblankscreen on Mar 10, 2010 1:07 AM MST up reply actions
I'm not being an asshole, you are by using that label.
And yes, it was nonsensical. Did you even read my comment?
It makes no sense, NONE, whatsoever to play Nash against the Pacers and then to sit him against the Lakers. Unless he slipped in the shower or somehow exacerbated his injury (which we have not heard ) then it makes no sense and it is a stupid question/post.
If he sat against Indiana you might have an argument, but not when he has already been playing with the same sore back and abdominal muscles. I don’t care that Beavis phrased it as a question at the end, it is still a stupid question? It’s like asking “should the Suns try to fight for homecourt advantage in the playoffs or just be content with a lower seed?”
Geeez.
actually
It’s a very valid question. Popovich has regularly sat his stars in big games during the season for 2 reasons: 1) so they are more likely to be ready for the playoffs and 2) to give the other guys confidence they will need to contribute if any injury happens.
How many people expected us to beat OKC last week without Nash? They were at home on a 9-game winning streak and fully healthy.
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Big difference
The OKC game was an away game, and it was just after Nash had aggravated the injury.
The following game vs. Philly was a home game. That meant he could stay in Phoenix and receive treatment and rest and sleep in his own bed. Not to mention avoiding the flight to Oklahoma. Those are all good reasons. The Lakers game is a home game and coming off of five days of rest. There is really no comparison to make here.
how about we just agree to disagree
and credit people for having legitimate differences of opinion. There is no and only correct way to look at anything in this world.
In your mind, Beavis’ post was nonsensical. In your mind, there is NO comparison between resting Nash in the Laker game and Popovich’s resting of Duncan in a Spurs’ home game against the Suns without a new injury to speak of…
It’s possible that there are different, equally valid points of view.
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I might not like the Spurs, but I do like how Popovich is conservative with his players’ health.
by 8472species on Mar 10, 2010 12:22 PM MST up reply actions
Not a bad idea...But
I would rather not. At this point, we are in a dog-fight for anywhere between the 2nd to 8th seed in the West. Every game counts!
Although we are already missing a HUGELY under-appreciated player in Frye for Friday, we still have a shot at beating L.A. at home.
If we want to have that chance, then I think we have to play Nash if he’s available…Unless we feel we have no chance of winning; which I don’t believe to be the case.
Again, I believe Nash could certainly use the extra rest, but I just can’t justify pulling him from a very winnable game at home when we really need it!
He should not sit as Lakers' back court sucks
However he should sit out the Utah game becos he’s can’t play well against D-Will. The turn-overs and the above average double double of D-Will says heaps…
by magenta on Mar 11, 2010 7:45 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
and we got plenty of those coming up
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Now THAT is not a bad idea Beavis....
That makes much more sense. Of course he could benefit from extra rest. Hopefully there will be some games we are winning comfortably in the 3rd quarter where we can sit Nash for the 4th quarter. Even shaving a couple of minutes here and there off his regular rotation might help. Of course, Gentry will have to choose these spots carefully and preferably not against top caliber competition where Nash’s presence will be crucial to winning.

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