The Phoenix Suns Magical Disappearing, Reappearing Bench
Once upon a time, in a land not-so-far away, Mike D'Antoni systematically eradicated the average Suns fan's expectation of a rotation deeper than 7 players. Soon after, Coach D departed for "greener" pastures, wherein he was faced with a starting lineup so devoid of talent, he probably spent sleepless nights longing for the glory days of Marcus "Cap Killer" Banks.
Replacement head coach Terry Porter continued the tradition of subjugating and minimizing the contributions of his pine riders, reducing back-up point guard Goran Dragic to a quivering, frightened turnover machine and pigeon-holing now-starting-center Robin Lopez as 6 fouls wrapped up in a 7-foot, wild-haired package.
Before too long, Suns GM Steve Kerr realized the folly which was General Porter, gave him the old, "Thanks but no thanks," sent him on his way, then promoted assistant coach Alvin Gentry. This made the bench very happy. Goran was finally able to be his smiling, three-point-shooting, fast-break-leading, lane-crashing self; Robin was set free to swat shots, dunk balls, look angry, and smash skulls in the paint; and Jared Dudley morphed into the Suns' super-sub, pestering the opposition's star player defensively, hitting the occasional dagger three, and making the headband a locker room fashion staple.
This new, effective bench was a strange proposition for a Suns team that had spent years running its starters into the ground, playing 40 minutes a night. The second unit -- rounded out by energy guy Lou Amundson and the best perimeter center ever, Channing Frye -- helped push a team with low expectations and an aging starting line-up into the 3-seed of the Western Conference Playoffs, facing the Portland Trailblazers in the first round.
Given the health (or lack thereof) of the Portland Trailblazers, many pundits expected the Suns' subs, which had developed into one of the best reserve corps in the league, to steamroll the depleted Blazer secondary and provide a huge advantage for Phoenix. This seemed like a reasonable expectation.
Then the bench promptly disappeared for the first four games.
Sniper Frye shot what seemed like 0-for-4,509,399 and somehow grabbed negative-14 rebounds. (Ok, not entirely accurate: 9-for-30 shooting, including 4-for-21 from three, although with a surprisingly decent 6.25 RPG.)
Duds -- while remaining effective defensively, guarding mainly Andre Miller and Brandon Roy -- also went cadaver-cold, shooting 2-for-12 from three and 5-for-18 overall.
The Slovenian Dragon accumulated only 6 points and 1 assist per game, after averaging 7.5 points and 4.2 assists after the All-Star break.
Sweet Lou, while effective in limited minutes in games 1 and 2, produced only 3 points and 2 rebounds over games 3 and 4.
Alvin Gentry admits to tightening the leash on his subs, in particular limiting Dudley to 20 MPG (down from 24 MPG during the regular season), Dragic to 12 MPG (down from 18 MPG), and Amundson to 7.8 (down from 14.8 MPG). "I said to that second unit that I've got to try to give them a little more time, enough time to find themselves a little bit," Gentry admitted after the game 4 loss.
Gentry kept his word, letting the trio loose on the court in game 5 -- Dudley for 23 minutes, Dragic for 20 minutes, and Amundson for 19 minutes -- and the reserves, along with Frye, paid their coach back for his trust.
Frye, with a +32, and Dudley, with a +36, were staggeringly effective, contributing 8 three pointers on 57% shooting. Dragic gave Nash plenty of rest in the blowout, tallying 7 points, 4 rebounds, and 5 assists in his most extended minutes of the series. Amundson's performance wasn't mind-blowing, but he provided an efficient 2 points and 4 rebounds, allowing Amare Stoudemire to rest.
In a maybe unexpected turn of events, Leandro Barbosa has been the vegetable oil running the Suns' clean-burning engine during this series after being largely unavailable or ineffective for most of the season. Though perhaps LB doesn't fit into the Suns' big picture as much as years past, he's managed 8.6 points a game in limited action to give the team one of its only reliable bench contributors over the first four games.
Hopefully game 5 served as a coming out party for the reserves in the playoffs, and they'll continue to wreak havoc on opposing benches. It's definitely a surreal feeling as a Suns fan to trust the team's second-five, to have back-ups who are more than just flesh-and-blood victory cigars or white flags, who can step onto the court and effectively hold serve or, as we've seen before, even turn the tide of a game that was heading in a darker direction.
If the Suns are going to survive in the second round (provided they get there), Dragic, Dudley, Frye, Amundson, and Barbosa are going to have to play with the sort of pride and efficiency they'd come to be known for during the season. Hopefully Planet Purple -- to steal a phase -- has risen again, ready to help the Phoenix Suns plow towards a deep playoff run, which is effectively impossible without our troops in roster spots 6 thru 10.
Some quotes from today's practice:
Goran Dragic
On getting extended playing time in game 5 and adjusting to the playoffs:
I have to prove a lot of things and I think so, yesterday was a pretty good game for me.
[It took] a few games to adjust. Still, I would say I was not nervous. Just I didn't feel right playing ... I don't know, the game was a little tough, a little bit different. But still, now that I've adjusted that, I feel more comfortable and everything.
Assistant Coach Igor Kokoskov
On the bench's need to be ready, no matter what their minutes:
Everybody's gotta be ready and be prepared for maybe playing some minutes ... This is huge because they know they are part of the team, they're part of the rotation and very important pieces of the winning games.
On the balance between using veterans and developing the bench in the playoffs:
The playoffs is a time to use a more experienced guy who understands what is controlling the pace and really keeping yourself under control. You know, we also know we have to live with some mistakes and nobody was born with experience and experience ... the only way you’re going to get experience is if you play them and live with some mistakes and keep coaching them.
On Coach Gentry's tutelage of his young players:
They’re fortunate because Coach Gentry is an experienced coach and knows how to handle this kind of situation, not putting extra pressure on them ... but still coaching.
On taking an individual player's minutes into account:
Really, we get to the point where it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter as long as the team is playing well.
Right now, it's all about winning games. And that’s how we judge about their performance right now. It's really ... it's ... primary is team success.
Coach Alvin Gentry
On getting too antsy to put the starters back in:
I pulled those guys a little bit too early in the previous games. You know, they've been the type of team that uh ... that second unit has been the type of team where when I leave them out there, they kind of find a way to get some things done. And I’ve been pretty quick with the hook in taking them out.
On trusting the bench more:
I just think I gotta believe in those guys a little bit more, you know, even in playoff situations, because they’ve been a real key to the success of our team this year.
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Great post on relevant basketball issues
While I think every single one of those bench-factors are important for the Suns success in the playoffs I voted for Deep Frye.
Frosty has shown amazing consistency in his ability to penetrate the lane and distribute (when he’s not dumping the ball off to someone else), so I’m not too worried about keeping his mojo flowing.
Sweet Lou always brings the energy.
I feel anything we get from LB is a bonus considering this is really the first time all season that he has been looking like his old self.
JD always brings the hustle… and I do feel his shooting ability is very important to the team I don’t think his continued success trumps the importance of Channing Frye and his hand staying hot.
When Frye is nailing from the perimeter this team is nearly impossible to beat – and it’s because of the spacing he creates for the entire team. His ability to change the dynamic of the game when his shot is falling is a ginormous advantage the Suns need to continue to exploit as we advance in the Playoffs – the challenge will be IF we face San Antonio next round they are very adept to defending the perimeter so our shooters (especially Frye) will need to adjust and execute!
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
What are you talking about "relevant issues?" I dont get it? Is something going on...(lol)
+1 for the most part. Dragic’s ability to get into the lane will continue to be a huge part of our game. His actions in game 5 drew several key fouls from the bigs that put them in the foul early. Even though he didn’t make the shots and even missed a FT or two, they were important drives that made the interior defenses softer.
LB’s play is all bonus. I still cringe when I see the ball in his hands for extended periods but for the most part he is making BETTER (not good, better) judgments offensively.
JD’s defense is simply great. A much needed part of the game not necessarily because he does it so much better than anyone else but because his effort rubs off on the rest of the players to play better D.
Reading is good...
I voted for Frye as well....
..its unbelievable how ineffective he is when he doesnt hit his 3s. Game 5 was a complete 180 where I actually saw him go inside the paint and hope he does that more often especially with Nash at point.
I voted for Frye
because of his size and ability to spread the opposition defense if he hits those open 3s. Leandro, Lou, Dragon Magic all need to play well, but it is Frye that is crucial because he will get close to starter’s minutes.
by oLLiE Boombayay on Apr 27, 2010 1:21 PM MST reply actions
I voted for JD
because of his ability to bring a passion and grit every night. But it was a hard choice considering I give compliments to all our bench players. Can’t actually believe after years of watching the Suns play, that we actually have a ‘Second Team’ and not just a few guys off the bench. They are a confident bunch and I really believe we will see the grow into a playoff group during this post season.
With a team that clamps down defensively, like the Blazers can
I think Frye is most important, because if he’s an offensive threat, the defense can’t just hunker down on Nash/Stoudemire/Richardson and know that the Suns will have trouble putting points on the board.
If it’s a team that’s a little weaker defensively, I think Dragic is more important, so that Nash isn’t expected to carry a huge load for long portions of the game and wears himself down before clutch time.
Channing Frye..
Because of his ability to stretch the floor…
"The art of war is simple enough. Find out where your enemy is. Get at him as soon as you can. Strike him as hard as you can, and keep moving."
Ulysses S Grant
Dragic got my vote
Frye’s value will be reduced when/if Lopez returns. The make-or-break times in a close game usually are when Nash comes out of the game and Goran takes over the ball. He attacked the rim last night like a pitbull and the effect from that was immense.
"The Nash abides."
I don't know about you, but I take comfort in that.
It's good to know he's out there, The Nash, taking 'er easy for all us sinners.
I am closer to what you think...
His ability to attack the rim is key for the Suns. Like our version of Tony Parker (only not a pu$$y, not a whiner, and better looking)
Reading is good...
Frye with Dragic a close second.
Frye because he can be the proverbial “x” factor and the difference in the game when he is unguardable at the three point line, and Dragic simply because it wouldn’t be the same second unit without a competent point who knows the system and is willing to run the floor for extended minutes.
Great post btw!
Crashing the [message] boards from the heart of Spurs Nation, San Antonio, Texas. GO SUNS!
Is there any correlation
Between the second unit playing together or having starters interspersed?
Seems to me that the second quarter run was purely subs. Not sure. It’d also be interesting to pay attention to the guys the second unit is playing against. E.g., Camby got quite a few minutes against the subs due to his early foul trouble.
Mmmmm ... Guinness
This is before the playoffs started...
but this is still pretty interesting stuff: http://www.nba.com/2010/news/features/john_schuhmann/04/16/numbers.top.west/index.html
The bench has been absolutely killing it this season.
Banzai!
by Suns' Sensei on Apr 27, 2010 5:07 PM MST up reply actions
wow! I hadn't seen that
our second unit HAS been killing it.
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Too late to change the stupid twitter name. Did it as a joke to my teenager, but now I'm hooked on the news-feed aspect of twitter.
starting lineup
collins is killing the starting lineup
April 29, 2008 Total Eclipse of the Sun. Is the sky falling?
when our second unit gets time together...
They usually gives a + rating or at least maintain a lead…Very rarely do they squander the lead..
"The art of war is simple enough. Find out where your enemy is. Get at him as soon as you can. Strike him as hard as you can, and keep moving."
Ulysses S Grant
remember
in 04-05 when we went to the second unit? It was always a disaster. I know coach D did not play his bench much, but they were god-awful. That is on the GM to get good players – BC and later GM D’A – a rolefor which he was abysmal failure. Don’t blame the coach for not playing Burke, Shirley, Jumaine Jones, and others. I believe he would have played them if they showed anything in practice. That is why I disagree with those who say he wouldn’t have played Rondo.
Gentry has a GM who saw part of his duty to build a bench. There. I gave some credit to Kerr. Satisfied?
April 29, 2008 Total Eclipse of the Sun. Is the sky falling?
Nothing like a human victory cigar....
"The art of war is simple enough. Find out where your enemy is. Get at him as soon as you can. Strike him as hard as you can, and keep moving."
Ulysses S Grant
Before he was a human victory cigar
He actually played in the “Year Without Amare”
http://www.nba.com/historical/playerfile/index.html?player=pat_burke
42 games, 8 mins, 3 pts and 2 board per game
suck that
Mmmmm ... Guinness
Wow..we wasted a great talent...
I am not sure whether blame Steve Kerry…or just laugh hysterically…
Do you think he would like….come back if we asked nicely???
"The art of war is simple enough. Find out where your enemy is. Get at him as soon as you can. Strike him as hard as you can, and keep moving."
Ulysses S Grant
Still love you JSun....!
"The art of war is simple enough. Find out where your enemy is. Get at him as soon as you can. Strike him as hard as you can, and keep moving."
Ulysses S Grant
Tell me Dwayne Jones is better
More importantly, with his acting talent, can you imagine teaming him up with producer Steve Nash and director Jared Dudley?
I’d never get any work done at the office
Mmmmm ... Guinness
You ought to do like I do...
Go to work with the express intention of not doing any work…
You feel better that way…Course you have to deal with the Network guys being mad at you because you are tying up all the bandwidth surfing BSOTS all day….
"The art of war is simple enough. Find out where your enemy is. Get at him as soon as you can. Strike him as hard as you can, and keep moving."
Ulysses S Grant
hilarious
Twitter: @dahking
Too late to change the stupid twitter name. Did it as a joke to my teenager, but now I'm hooked on the news-feed aspect of twitter.
I don't remember any second unit in any D'Antoni time
because he didn’t have one. Not once did he play 5 non-starters together. In fact, he almost never had more than 2 non-starters on the floor at any one time.
So no, I don’t remember any second units before late last season… ;)
Twitter: @dahking
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nice to see credit for Kerr
I do remember this summer, where the asst GM David Griffin was interviewed about the second unit of the middle-2000s.
He said it was a particular goal of the offseason to sign bench players who would not complain about sitting all year, because they all knew that no one would play beyond the top 8. And that draft picks would not get much time either.
Glad that’s changed.
Twitter: @dahking
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I voted for LB
If he gets going he can basically do everything and do the things many of our players can’t, when he is firing on all cylinders he can drive the call, shoot the three, provide assist and shoot the jumper the only thing he can’t do is post up but meh who cares. LB can be the X factor for our team!!
I agree
Frye is especially motivated against the Blazers. I think they did him wrong.
Another thing – I do not think Channing will do near as well without Nash and the spaced floor. Beware of fleeing for seemingly greener pastures, Channing.
April 29, 2008 Total Eclipse of the Sun. Is the sky falling?
I voted Dragic
even though I think Duds, Channing and Dragic all are vital for a deep run. When Duds and Channing are hitting 3’s and board, the bench is solid. However when Goran spells Nash and dosen’t turn the ball over and makes smart decisions, I think he is the key to the bench.
Just win tomorrow fellas
I voted for Lou Amundson, because he hasn’t done much.
by 8472species on Apr 27, 2010 11:15 PM MST reply actions
voted for LB...
LB. when LB’s aggressive, ohhhh mama! he just has to make better decisions with his shot and great to see him doing that the past games.
Dragic with a close, close 2nd followed by Frye (who right now is our only real dependable C).
voted for Dudely
I initially thought that Duds’ all-around grittiness affects our control over the game. He’s a huge help for defense AND offense.
But this team really needs Channing’s offense to get going. Channing’s offense is really a huge part of our team’s success. He IS a main weapon. And we’re losing a part of our offensive side if he is struggling. Shooting three’s really gets this team going. They’re confidence builders. If we shoot good from the arc then the suns almost always win.
Amar'e Stoudemire is your resident Bully Ball.
could it be that Dudley's success at defense
has improved the entire team’s attitude toward defense? They all talk about how he’s the least-athletic guy on the team, and yet he’s their most effective perimeter defender. Maybe they’re all thinking, “hell, if Duds can do it why can’t I?”
Twitter: @dahking
Too late to change the stupid twitter name. Did it as a joke to my teenager, but now I'm hooked on the news-feed aspect of twitter.
I'm sure his fervor for the defensive end
Has amped up everyone else. To paraphrase what Amare said: He never knew how fun defense could be, because they never played it.
I see the team metamorphing before my eyes..
I can’t help but shed a tear…I am so proud of “No more pastry-soft Suns…”
"The art of war is simple enough. Find out where your enemy is. Get at him as soon as you can. Strike him as hard as you can, and keep moving."
Ulysses S Grant
Still can't believe
We got him as a throw-in to even out the salaries for the JRich deal. You’d think a coach like Larry Brown would do everything possible to keep him.
"The Nash abides."
I don't know about you, but I take comfort in that.
It's good to know he's out there, The Nash, taking 'er easy for all us sinners.
That's not even counting the import taxes & duties on all those croissants...
"The art of war is simple enough. Find out where your enemy is. Get at him as soon as you can. Strike him as hard as you can, and keep moving."
Ulysses S Grant
by Daryl Ray on Apr 28, 2010 12:03 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
did any of you guys...
… see the videos over at suns.com?
man, all they ever talk about now is defense :) i love it! :)
Will go over and check it out...
Go Suns!!!!!
"The art of war is simple enough. Find out where your enemy is. Get at him as soon as you can. Strike him as hard as you can, and keep moving."
Ulysses S Grant
I voted for Dragic
The reason is that if he is playing well it allows Nash to get his rest and come in fresh. It takes a lot of pressure of him mentally and physically. Plus if he is not playing well it will force th ball into LB’s hands. THis is not bad all the time, but if it every possession then things will slow down offensively and take our other shooters out of rhythm.
by Suns Fan For Life on Apr 28, 2010 9:42 AM MST reply actions

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