NBA Playoff Nightcap: May 14th Edition
by Scott Howard on May 14, 2010 7:00 AM MDT
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PrintAfter a one day hiatus, the Nightcap is back ... and more something than ever. Happy Friday, commenters! For those of you who have jobs, that means something after a long week of reading Bright Side between pretending to work on spreadsheets in your cubicle. For those of you without jobs...get a job. Remember that time I picked the Lakers to win the series on that podcast in which it sounded kind of like I had a lisp? Those were some good times. Remember that other time where you all forgave me and were like "Dude, Scott it's totally cool, you're way awesome and we should be BFF"? Well, that was just downright understanding and awesome of you guys.
With Boston's surprising elimination of Cleveland -- the team with home court advantage throughout the NBA playoffs -- the conference finals are set. Boston will be in Orlando on Sunday while I hear the Suns will be in Los Angeles to play the defending champion Lakers on Monday night. Final 4 time, baby!
Thursday May 13th Playoff Results:
Boston Celtics 94 Cleveland Cavaliers 85 (Recap): LeBron James has become quite the polarizing figure in the last few weeks. This season he won his second consecutive MVP, led the Cavs to the NBA's best record, and looked to be in position to win his first NBA title. Yet in the wake of the Cavs third consecutive loss of the series, Boston is moving on and the Cavs and LeBron are headed into a franchise defining summer a month earlier than expected. Kevin Garnett (22/12) and Rajon Rondo (21 points and 12 assists) led the charge for the Celtics and helped hold Cleveland to just 38% shooting from the field. The Celtics seem to be playing their best basketball of the season at just the right time and you have to think they stand a legitimate chance to take down Orlando in the Eastern Conference Finals. Whether they will is a matter all its own.
Although James didn't have a tremendous shooting night (8/21) he still posted his sixth triple double of the playoffs. Mo Williams added 22 for Cleveland, but one of the true disappointments for the Cavs has to be the performance of Antawn Jamison. The guy the Cavs (depending on who you believe) opted to trade for instead of Amar'e Stoudemire scored just 5 points on 2/10 shooting and averaged only 11.8 for the series. Alright, enough of that. Go ahead and hate on LeBron in the comments ... but I won't be doing it. I'll just note that the Suns have now gone further than Shaquille O'Neal in the playoffs. (Is it possible we've seen the last of Shaq in the NBA? Who signs the guy next year?)
Conference Semifinals Series Standings:
(1) Lakers v. (5) Jazz: 4-0 Lakers win series
(3) Suns v. (7) Spurs: 4-0 Suns win series
(1) Cavaliers v. (4) Celtics: 4-2 Celtics win series
(2) Magic v. (3) Hawks: 4-0 Magic win series
Friday May 14th Playoff Game:
We're off until Sunday when Celtics/Magic get it going. So spend some time with your family the next couple nights. Or go grab a beer with your buddies. Basically just relax. Oh and visit BSotS at least 40 times a day.
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poor lebron =(
the guy has to do everything on the team… he’s the top scorer, the top rebounder, the top passer… he doesnt have a dominant big man in his prime to help him win games like kobe did…(shaq and now pau)…
I can't believe how everybody has turned on LeBron
his team would have been fighting for the last playoff spot if he hadn’t been there, and would probably have lost out to toronto. Mike Brown is one of the worst offensive coaches in the league. His two centers have a comined vertical leap of about 3 inches, his backup pg is a head case, and mo williams is a tree on defense.
I really hope LeBron goes to NY just to see the kind of team that could be built basically starting from scratch with one stud player, only problem is D’antoni is the coach there and i don’t see LeBron going to a team that doesn’t play D
Poor Lebron, but his millions will dry his tears!
All kidding aside. I always feel bad 4 the loosing side. I still see Poor Dirks face, after their loss to SanAn
by Aztiramtempe on May 14, 2010 9:05 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
I didn’t just turn on him; I always disliked him.
by 8472species on May 14, 2010 11:27 AM MDT up reply actions
LEBRON REMINDS OF TIGER WOODS
ultra talented but probably one of the most NARCISSISTIC players of all time. what about how Deron Williams declared himself “the best point guard in the league” Yeah, best hair cut in the league too Deron! Im just so sick of these types of players. Thats why its so easy to root for Steve Nash. He would never say shit like that.
Im also just not that interested in me first players who have to jack up 30 shots in a game and have the ball in their hands all the time to be effective. It really doesn’t impress me that much.
I know this is highly unlikely but i had a dream last night
that phoenix had home court advantage in the NBA finals against the boston celtics..
that would be nice
but first the Suns have to MAKE the Finals
I know this week sucks and its impossible not to think of playing one of the teams on TV. I can’t wait till this damn series starts.
Twitter: @dahking
Too late to change the stupid twitter name. Did it as a joke to my teenager, but now I'm hooked on the news-feed aspect of twitter.
You and me both, dKing97...
"The art of war is simple enough. Find out where your enemy is. Get at him as soon as you can and slap the crap out of him before he figures out you are there...."
- me into a mental stupor after forgetting the rest of Ulysses S. Grant's speech....
There's nothing logical to tell me the Suns will beat the Lakers
But it sort of feels like destiny this year.
Throw logic off the train!!!
Destiny overrules all sense of reason and logic…
Go Suns!!
"The art of war is simple enough. Find out where your enemy is. Get at him as soon as you can and slap the crap out of him before he figures out you are there...."
- me into a mental stupor after forgetting the rest of Ulysses S. Grant's speech....
I think we all have the same dream!!! Well except MR. Howard!
It’s a good dream! I can’t wait till Monday!!! N
by Aztiramtempe on May 14, 2010 9:14 AM MDT up reply actions
Oh I like to dream.
But then crippling pessimism takes over
http://seasonsofdiscontent.com/
by Scott Howard on May 14, 2010 10:08 AM MDT up reply actions
that sucked...Cavs the new "team" I can't stand
not only they walk the ball up and hand it off to lebron to go 1 V 5 almost every god damn play, but down the stretch when they obviously needed to pick up the pace they actually SLOWED DOWN. less then 2min to go down by 7 and they literally GAVE UP!. they didn’t push, when they lost the ball they didn’t foul, when Boston ate 24 sec of clock and missed they walked the ball up and held it with 34 sec left. thank god I’m not a cavs fan, that was the most disgusting thing I’ve seen since kobe tanked the second half of game 7in 2006….GO SUNS
"I did not write this" by Not me
I’ll agree that other than LeBron all the Cavs sucked hard in the second half, but there’s no shame in accepting the loss when you’re down 9 without the ball and less than a minute left. It would have been dumb to foul with 1:30 left when you’re only down 7, especially when the Cavs defended the shot well aside from failing to rebound. Garnett’s shot going in combined with LeBron’s subsequent turnover is when the game was unwinnable.
AFAIK, the greatest last minute comeback ever – we’re talking once in tens of thousands of games – was an 8 point deficit with the ball (the famous 13 in 35 by T-Mac). Only a pathetic fan would be mad at his team for giving up when there was a 0.01% chance of winning.
If you say so
I really disagree mightily. But I really come from the never give up school. Of course I am in Houston. But I think of how the 6th seed would never have made a back to back with that mentality. How the Lakers would have swept last year when Yao went down.
How San Antonio would have won that 13 in 35 game.
I mean, if it weren’t for the concept of making them kill rather than laying down to die, we would have very little to celebrate here in Houston.
Daryl Morey says that Playing Hard is a talent and he looks for it.
I have seen the positive results of that.
For me, giving up is really the only thing that makes me turn on my team.
If I had a lot of time, I would research and tell you how many hundreds of games the Utah Jazz have won in the final minute. Mostly against the Rockets.
You can win games in the final minute, but not when you’re down 9 without the ball in the playoffs. It’s never happened, and it’s not going to happen in my lifetime. I was being orders of magnitude generous when saying 0.01%. If there was a way that I could bet my life savings on that, I’d do it in a heartbeat.
Think about it. You’d need FIVE three pointers in a row AND four missed Celtic free throws AND Doc Rivers to be too stupid to just foul back.
If I was a Cavs fan, I wouldn’t be disgusted with the last minute. I’d be disgusted with the Celtics going on a 10-0 run after LeBron brought it within 4 with plenty of time left. They had all the momentum, were fighting for their lives, and were facing a Celtics team that was notorious for it’s fourth quarter breakdowns this season. And that’s what they came up with?
Scott,
You paint your chest “SU” and I paint my chest “NS”, we gonna be BFFs after that.
Also theres no BFFs till we dont play MW2 together.
It was horrible to watch the last 3 minutes of that game
I felt really bad for LJ. His teammates were throwing bricks at the basket. Mo Williams is a fraud, he was walking the ball down the court with no sense of urgency. I should be tough for Cleveland fans. That was a horrible sight last night.
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
Well it was nice while it lasted...
I’m sending Mike Brown the link to www.jobsforformercoaches.com
"The art of war is simple enough. Find out where your enemy is. Get at him as soon as you can and slap the crap out of him before he figures out you are there...."
- me into a mental stupor after forgetting the rest of Ulysses S. Grant's speech....
Lebron is an interesting case.
As good as he is, I think after this performance certain teams will be thinking twice before going after him. Miami, for example, I think would rather have Bosh than Lebron. More team player, better fit in the system. Or Amare I imagine. Even if the Suns had a chance at it this season I could see them backing out and not going after him. I mean, when a guy gets a HUGE triple double (19 rebs…WTH! Who is rebounding besides Lebron on the Cavs!) and a team still loses there is something wrong with the rest of the team.
And I am not going to attribute any of this to the Celtics defense. I have no delusions that the Celtics are that good defensively despite what the box score says. I just think that the Cavs can’t play without Lebron. Their players give up or are too reliant on the “Kings’” antics to do anything meaningful. Countdown to Lebron’s signing with another team officially begins. I give it 50 days.
Celtics are going to get lit up by Orlando. They dont have the offense to put enough points up on them. The Magic have way more offensive weapons and effecieny than the Cavs. All Boston had to do was make Lebron the only player and the Cavs imploded. They can’t do that against the Magic.
Reading is good...
I wouldn't be so sure about the Celts being lit up by Orlando
they took them to 7 games last year without garnett. And the magic don’t have the matchup nightmare that is Hedo Turkoglu. Also the celts have 2 of the best guys at defending dwight howard in the league in Wallace and Perkins. It should be an awesome series.
Plus the Celts still got it defensively
despite what you say Lebron doesn’t get nine turnovers in 2 straight games without a damn good defensive scheme being played against him.
from what I saw
last night alot of the turnovers he made weren’t due to good defense, but more to stupid plays on lebron’s part. He tried to pass to one of his guys on a PnR that only one guy in the league could have made.
not all lebrons fault
One of the reasons nash is able to make such graet passes is that the targets work to get open and they’re ready for the pass. not the case with the cavs
"I did not write this" by Not me
yea but
just because your teammates aren’t working hard enough to get open doesn’t mean you should make a stupid pass. If your guy isn’t open, whether or not it’s due to him not working hard enough or just good defense, I don’t think you should try and complete the pass if you’re unable.
don't get me wrong
that was the ugliest triple double I’ve seen and lebron had some real stinkers. the cavs “system” has the same flaw that people said SSOL suns had. lots of reguliar season wins but in 7 game series against a decent team and they’ll find a way to stop it.
"I did not write this" by Not me
haha
Isn’t it nice to have that one guy on OUR team?
I remember a Youtube where Nash made a ridiculous bounce pass through some defenders to Amare for a dunk, and that idiot Hubie Brown said it was a stupid pass that shouldn’t have been made…
April 29, 2008 Total Eclipse of the Sun. Is the sky falling?
yep it sure is.
I think we should get a thread going for top 5 least favorite announcers, mine would go something like this.
1. Mark Jackson
2. Jeff VanGundy (these two are actually tied)
3. Hubie Brown
4. Mike Tirico
5. Reggie Miller
Worst (in order):
1. Reggie Miller
2. Jeff Van Gundy
3. Mark Jackson
4. Scott Williams
5. Tom Leander
Best (in order)
1. Eddie Johnson
2. Al McCoy
3. Doug Collins
4. Doris Burke
5. Marv Albert
I actually don't think Jon Barry's that terrible of an announcer
Yes, he’s obviously a Suns-doubt/hater, but I don’t hold that against his overall handling of the language and ability to compliment the game action. The other 5 I listed are way worse, i think.
I dont dislike barry,
he’s still in love with the spurs but, other than that I don’t mind him, I’m with you on EJ bein the best, I love listening to his commentary during phoenix home games.
I can't stand Gary Bender
Ever since I noticed how often he says “All of a sudden…”
"Let's go to the Finals, coach."
- Goran Dragic
Ditto
Your list is basically the same as mine. Although I would probably switch Scott Williams and Mark Jackson….not that it makes a lot of difference.
Eddie Johnson is great though…I wish he would announce the Suns games full-time, instead of sharing with Scot Williams. Then again, I would love it even more if we could bring him in as an assistant coach of some sort. He really knows his stuff!
Not to take away too much from the C's
but when they walk the ball up every single time and you know where the ball is going…in a 7 game series your gonna figure it out eventually
"I did not write this" by Not me
Scott!! If you pick up a Irish accent & loose the lisp
We can be BFF’s
by Aztiramtempe on May 14, 2010 9:08 AM MDT via mobile reply actions
A couple of good Yahoo Suns-related articles on our once unheralded former-rookies:
I was loving it.
After watching ESPN kissing LeBrons ass for the entire year, and then seeing the Cavs get pounded these last two games. Great stuff.
If LeBron stays, they will need to find a way to win games besides trying to have him do everything.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan.
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad.
Hardly anyone in the national media is talking about the Celtics advancing,
Rather focusing on the LeBron saga, which is about to bludgeon the entire basketball viewing public, according to LBJ’s plans.
I was watching ESPN for a few minutes (I know. Stupid, right?) after the game, and Scott Van Pelt actually posed this question to one of their analysts:
(Paraphrasing) “Is there a possibility that the big 3 of this free agent class, LeBron, Wade and Bosh, get together and join forces, agreeing to take less money to all sign with the same team?”
The Worldwide Leader in Fluff.
"Let's go to the Finals, coach."
- Goran Dragic
See you think these selfish bastards we call NBA players
Would say “Hey, if we all got together and signed, say, 2 year deals for a third of what we’d normally make, we’d be guaranteed a title or two.”
THey always say they’re all about winning, but they have to know, given the league’s soft cap and luxury tax rules and such, that if they suck up all the money, it’s nigh-impossible for a team to get much quality around them.
I don’t think Wade and LeBRon can co-exist, but LeBron and Bosh or LeBron and Amare would be awesome, and then get yourself a good 2 guard to go with them, one that doesn’t need to handle the ball much.
Eh. Its not a guarentee though.
I get what you mean regardless. I think Wade/Bosh would be a dominant team. I mean, those guys would tear up the eatern conference. What Wade needs is a good rebounder and athletic big man. Boom he has it with Bosh. $10 says Miami go hard after Bosh in the offseason. Hell, $20.
Reading is good...
That's why you just do a 2-year deal
Maybe 1 year guaranteed, then 1 year that’s a player option. That way, if it doesn’t work out, you’re not locked down for a long time.
I think ppl still count
Bosh as the surer thing. There’s still the injury issues with Amare. Knee/eye
Twitter: @dahking
Too late to change the stupid twitter name. Did it as a joke to my teenager, but now I'm hooked on the news-feed aspect of twitter.
by Alex Laugan on May 14, 2010 12:39 PM MDT up reply actions
good point
but conses is that amare would have mor interior presence
and cantt spll
"I did not write this" by Not me
Here is another one.
After reading this, I have to say how happy I am that 1) we have Steve Kerr as a GM…who weathered the storm or criticism and has helped to build a spectacular team and 2) we have Alvin Gentry instead of DAntoni. I think we can all say that we are much better off now with Gentry than Mike.
Reading is good...
woj wrote 3 articles in 3 days bashing on lebron
now tell me really, is that normal behaviour? he is obsessed with lebron and he wants so badly to prove kobe is better than him… like kobe was not playing primadona (he still does sometime), like he wasn’t looking for attention (he still does), like there was no hollywood show lakers with shaq which held nba hostage (not far away now, if ther was no lebron, you can imagine)…
I am no lebron lawyer at all, but don’t you think that if he played under phil jackson and with shaq in his prime and gasol/odom/bynum now, he wouldn’t have had few rings? lot of overreacting there, sometimes things are much more simpler than they really are… I am pretty sure they didn’t lose this or last year’s series because “he doesn’t want to win” or “he was thinking where he will play next year” etc…
I am sorry for having deficiencies in english so I cannot express myself fully…
Smoke rings
Let’s say Amaré bolts after this year. Let’s say Sarver, giddy with this year’s success, loosens his checquebook a little. Let’s say guys like JRich agree to a paycut (ha! Hey Chambers did it for Barkley!). Let’s say they ditch LB and his contract. Let’s say LBJ is sick of the winters in Clevetown, and he’s been to Rock and Roll Hall of Fame enough times for the rest of his life.
I’m just sayin (see subject line). . . What do you guys say?
by notarealdoctor on May 14, 2010 11:18 AM MDT reply actions
No way LeBron signs unless Amar'e is still here
plus Grant Hill doesn’t like coming off the bench
I don't know
Lebron is a truly awsome player…but i dont know If i’d enjoy watching one guy play for a whole season. It’s not that i think the guy is selfish he’s just used to playing that way.
"I did not write this" by Not me
He's not selfish on the court at all ... any guy who averages 8 assists a game isn't selfish
But he’s a selfish douche-bag off the court.
by jburning on May 14, 2010 11:32 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
he has 8,6apg, best in history by forward
he is not selfish at all, but sure, he has ball in his hand lot… hypotetically, if he plays with nash and amare on the same team, and with concept the suns play, he certainly wouldn’t play like that… if he would agree to play like that at all…
thats not the concern
I know he willing to share the ball and with a MUCH better shooting team he’d go nuts in the point and assist category playing in an uptempo style. but can he get used to playing off the ball.
"I did not write this" by Not me
LEBRON JAMES IS THE NBA's TIGER WOODS
ultra talented but probably one of the most NARCISSISTIC players of all time. what about how Deron Williams declared himself "the best point guard in the league" Yeah, best hair cut in the league too Deron! Im just so sick of these types of players. Thats why its so easy to root for Steve Nash. He would never say shit like that.
Im also just not that interested in me first players who have to jack up 30 shots in a game and have the ball in their hands all the time to be effective. It really doesn’t impress me that much.
I don't mind it so much
aslong as they can back it up…Lebron is that damn good. but when he turned into LeBrick. nobody stepped up, everyones gonna have bad days.
I’m sayn I’d rather see Lebron sun then Amar’e. but if you could get working ing gentry’s system can you imagine the nash to lebron ally oop hilight reels
"I did not write this" by Not me
why Lakers' revenge threat is mostly hot air
It just occurred to me that in those last two Lakers series, when the Suns shoved the Lakers back under their rock, several current Lakers stars’ didn’t play for the Lakers yet. Kobe Bryant and Lamar Odom were there and may now be emotionally invested in revenge; but Andrew Bynum and Pau Gasol weren’t, and have no reason to be; and Derek Fisher hadn’t come back to the Lakers.
If anything, the Lakers should be THANKING the Suns for eliminating them
It got Mitch Kupchik off his ass to start re-tooling the team for a championship.
It helps when get Gasol and you have to give up.....
ABSOLUTLY NOTHING!!!!!!!
"I did not write this" by Not me
Marc Gasol too.
http://seasonsofdiscontent.com/
by Scott Howard on May 14, 2010 12:28 PM MDT up reply actions
Yeah...
I forgot about Marc…that makes the deal slightly less sour, but he’s still a LONG way from being as talented as his brother. I understand he has a lot of upside though, so I guess we’ll have to see how good he is in another couple of years.
Bynum was there both times
in 05-06 he only scored a point per game that seasons and in 06-07 he scored 8 points and grabbed 6 rebounds (Basically where Lopez is)
R U ORNG?
I really think LeBron is going to Chicago
Starting five:
PG – Derrick Rose
SG – Kirk Hinrich
SF – LeBron James
PF – Taj Gibson
C – Joakim Noah
Um, pretty damn intimidating.
I think that will be his best option, not NY
"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."
Strange theory:
Since the remainder of the playoffs is going to be completely overshadowed by LeBron James speculation, I have a feeling this will be the year the Suns win it all. Their accomplishments will be completely under-talked about because it’s the Summer of LeBron. The Suns couldn’t win it any other way but under the radar.
They could win it all under the god damn cover of night and nobody could write one story on it.
And I couldn’t care less.
http://seasonsofdiscontent.com/
by Scott Howard on May 14, 2010 12:17 PM MDT up reply actions
Not saying I personally would care about it ... I'm tired of LeGone James
Just saying, that’d be the way the Suns would win, is in a year when everyone was focused on everything else.
I admire your despise for LeBron.
It seems inspired.
http://seasonsofdiscontent.com/
by Scott Howard on May 14, 2010 12:28 PM MDT up reply actions
totally disagree
Blogging Suns Basketball . twitter: @sethpo
by Seth Pollack on May 14, 2010 12:35 PM MDT up reply actions
JRich's driving escapades, non-withstanding...
"The art of war is simple enough. Find out where your enemy is. Get at him as soon as you can and slap the crap out of him before he figures out you are there...."
- me into a mental stupor after forgetting the rest of Ulysses S. Grant's speech....
+1
But that’s all I’ll say.
Let the fires of LeBron hate continue
http://seasonsofdiscontent.com/
by Scott Howard on May 14, 2010 12:50 PM MDT up reply actions
yep disagree
people are sliding off his bandwagon faster than… well… damn, I suck at analogies…
anyway, LeBron is not a complete douche. He’s been kissed by athletic gods, carried a team to the Finals by 22, and still trying to get back there. But with privilege and droolers around him his whole life, he’s gonna say stupid things.
Twitter: @dahking
Too late to change the stupid twitter name. Did it as a joke to my teenager, but now I'm hooked on the news-feed aspect of twitter.
by Alex Laugan on May 14, 2010 12:44 PM MDT up reply actions
I've never been on the LeBron bandwagon
So I don’t feel as if I’m betraying my original feelings here. He’s obviously not the worst human being ever, though.
Don't we all...
"The art of war is simple enough. Find out where your enemy is. Get at him as soon as you can and slap the crap out of him before he figures out you are there...."
- me into a mental stupor after forgetting the rest of Ulysses S. Grant's speech....
I love this site as I learn so much more than just basketball
I improve my english speaking every day… so, what does “douche” means? google translates is as “to have a shower”…
to douche, in the literal sense
generally refers a woman washing out her vagina with water or another hygienic substance.
To call someone a douche basically means they’re a jerk.
It’s the progression of swear words. I didn’t hear everyone calling everyone else “douche” a few years ago.
nba players...? So I guess I should stop calling my boss that...
"The art of war is simple enough. Find out where your enemy is. Get at him as soon as you can and slap the crap out of him before he figures out you are there...."
- me into a mental stupor after forgetting the rest of Ulysses S. Grant's speech....
Thank you soo much 4 asking that question..
I been wondering for 25 years what it means but never asked!!
by Aztiramtempe on May 14, 2010 2:52 PM MDT up reply actions
The shower meaning comes from the spanis infinitive
Ducharme which when conjugated to se Duche would be he or she takes a shower (thank you high school Spanish)
LeBron or Bust !!!!
School em'...
There is some serious douche knowledge being dropped on BSOTS right about now.
I’ll add this to the category of one of those things I never needed to know, or wanted to know, but now I know….lol
I would put more blame on Ferry than anyone else
because Ferry never brought in a second REAL star to pair with LeBron.
MJ had Pippen at least. Magic had boatloads, as did Larry Bird. Duncan had Parker/Manu. Kobe had Shaq/Gasol. Only Hakeem won a ring as alpha without another real star to share the crunchtime load in playoffs. (Detroit had 0 superstars, so by definition they shared the load).
Its really Ferry’s fault as much as anything.
Twitter: @dahking
Too late to change the stupid twitter name. Did it as a joke to my teenager, but now I'm hooked on the news-feed aspect of twitter.
Well, he tried—didn’t he want Amare Stoudemire?
by 8472species on May 14, 2010 12:59 PM MDT up reply actions
Yea. Tried, but was unwilling to give up Hickson, I think? If that’s true, Hickson’s lack of playing time against the Celtics is doubly surprising, given how high they must have been on him.
Banzai!
by Suns' Sensei on May 14, 2010 1:02 PM MDT up reply actions
He wouldn’t give up Hickson for what the Suns have now in Stoudemire? That’s pretty stupid. He’ll probably be fired along with the coach.
well the way I heard it afterward
was that Kerr wanted to spin Ilgauskas’ huge expiring contract to someone else for a topflight PF (like to Utah for Boozer) AND Hickson, but couldn’t get Utah to bite.
It was reported as Hickson/Ilgauskas for Amare because those were the only 2 parts at the time. but the trade was on the table for 2 days before it fell through, which indicates the Suns were trying to turn Ilgauskas into a better piece and couldnt make it happen.
Best non-trade ever.
Twitter: @dahking
Too late to change the stupid twitter name. Did it as a joke to my teenager, but now I'm hooked on the news-feed aspect of twitter.
James was doing what Bryant did in Suns-Lakers 2006 Game 7
In this article, http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/lazenby/2010/05/14/protest-mode-the-lebron-mistery-deepens/ , someone who has known James since youth basketball claims he got mad about something his team did, possibly a coaching decision, and was in “protest mode.” If that’s true, James was doing exactly what Kobe Bryant did in Game 7 of the Suns-Lakers series in 2006.
no, it was game 7
you were right the first time. Game 7 of 2006 series.
Twitter: @dahking
Too late to change the stupid twitter name. Did it as a joke to my teenager, but now I'm hooked on the news-feed aspect of twitter.
LeBron will sign with the Grizzlies this summer
You all heard it here first.
"Let's go to the Finals, coach."
- Goran Dragic
Now that would be a killer lineup
They’d need to find a real point guard, but still:
1. Mike Conley
2. O.J. Mayo
3. LeBron James
4. Zach Randolph
5. Marc Gasol
That’d be pretty tough to handle.
You forgot it's the Grizz...
They’d find a way to implode…
"The art of war is simple enough. Find out where your enemy is. Get at him as soon as you can and slap the crap out of him before he figures out you are there...."
- me into a mental stupor after forgetting the rest of Ulysses S. Grant's speech....
LeBron will try his hand at baseball this summer...
And bring the Expos back to Montreal. Guaranteed.
"Let's go to the Finals, coach."
- Goran Dragic
Haven't seen anyone mention the "NY" chants...
Before the game, Bill Simmons organized fans through Twitter to get some chants going like “New York Knicks” for Lebron and “Kooobbbeee” for Shaq. The “NY” chant actually got going, which is pretty hilarious.
Did it actually affect Lebron or the Cavs? Maybe not, but still awesome. We could have a total field day if we got something like that going against LA when they come here. There’s endless possibilities for Kobe alone… from the Colorado incident to his Pilgrim photoshoot.
Someone get us organized and make this happen
speaking of chants
what should ours be…I mean beat LA is a little tired…
.______ sucks, does itself suck
"I did not write this" by Not me
JSun actually has a post about this already
off the top of my head, I was thinking…
Kobe’s sexual assault case:
"Colo-rado!!!!" clap clap clap clap clap "Colo-rado!!!!"
or maybe just "No means no!!"
Maybe something about Bynum’s fragility, how Ariza is better than Artest, and for Odom it should definitely be "Kim is hotter!!" "Kim is hotter!!"
The Colorado incident is a low blow...
the Pilgrim photoshoot, however? GO FOR IT!
"That's a giant sig " - Ben R.
by Saurav A. Das on May 14, 2010 8:53 PM MDT up reply actions
yeah thats unnecessary
Twitter: @dahking
Too late to change the stupid twitter name. Did it as a joke to my teenager, but now I'm hooked on the news-feed aspect of twitter.
here is what i don't get
a lot of people always say “lebron needs his pippen”. but who is the 2nd star the Cavs can really get for the team? they got shaq and jamison, but both suck.
also, why do the cavs want lebron back? can’t they use the money to pursue wade (not that wade will join him)?
Why do the Cavs want LeBron back? That's a silly question.
The Cavs are stuck, unfortunately. They have too many bad, long contracts now. Shaq comes off the books, but it doesn’t get them far enough under the cap to pursue a max free agent. They have to pursue other players via trade and who wants the Cavs’ garbage?
Why doesnt shaq's retirement give them the 22 million that his contract is worth?
J.j hickson looked like he had potential starting this year but after that bum jamison came in his confidence is completely ruined. I say that they force jamison to retire too so that they can get wade or bosh to come to cleveland for a max contract. Jamison did nothing but F—k them over because hickson is way more athletic and younger then jamison and at 6’9 he can/could guard a player like garnett much better than jamison did; that is why the cavs beat the celtics before jamison was inserted into the lineup and lost when he and shaq were inserted into the lineup together. Who in the right mind thought that antwan jamison and shaq could play well together? Besides jamison is like 300 years old force him into retirement, trade him possible for cap space and some draft picks
Steve Nash is the baddest man out there; no one, not even Robert Horry can hold him back. Oh, and Amare Stoudemire does play defense!
They're over the salary cap
So they only get to spend what shaq’s expired contract gets them under the cap. Not sure of the numbers rgiht off hand.
they'll have about 10 million cap space if they don't resign any of their outgoing players (Z, Shaq, LeBron, etc..)
"That's a giant sig " - Ben R.
by Saurav A. Das on May 14, 2010 8:54 PM MDT up reply actions
Wow, that's BEFORE re-signing LeBron?
I guess they could spend the $10m first and then re-sign LeBron to go way in the luxury tax, but wow. That’s a lot of salary.
yeah Jamison f'd them over
i think between games in this series, just as the Cavs were deflating, Jamison was quoted as saying he still wasn’t comfortable in the red/yellow (I refuse to use “wine and gold”) of the Cavs after hating them for so many years. How can you trust a guy who cant even stomach wearing your uniform? I always wondered about that and I guess it was true after all.
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The Cavs franchise will absolutely die if LeBron leaves.
Name one marquee free agent who has ever packed his bags and headed for Cleveland. In any sport.
http://seasonsofdiscontent.com/
by Scott Howard on May 14, 2010 4:48 PM MDT up reply actions
Is that a trick question?
"The art of war is simple enough. Find out where your enemy is. Get at him as soon as you can and slap the crap out of him before he figures out you are there...."
- me into a mental stupor after forgetting the rest of Ulysses S. Grant's speech....
It's basically rhetorical because we know the answer/
http://seasonsofdiscontent.com/
by Scott Howard on May 14, 2010 4:55 PM MDT up reply actions
Does trying to woo someone count?
"The art of war is simple enough. Find out where your enemy is. Get at him as soon as you can and slap the crap out of him before he figures out you are there...."
- me into a mental stupor after forgetting the rest of Ulysses S. Grant's speech....
It's fucking Cleveland.
Someone name a free agent who’s done it. Again….any sport will do.
http://seasonsofdiscontent.com/
by Scott Howard on May 14, 2010 4:55 PM MDT up reply actions
I can't
They’re definitely one of those places that either has to (a) hope they can draft a great player, or (b) way, way overpaid for mediocre free agents.
Completely agreed.
Or they have to trade for someone elses star (i.e. Nance or Kemp).
If they lose LeBron you might as well hack a franchise off the NBA.
http://seasonsofdiscontent.com/
by Scott Howard on May 14, 2010 4:59 PM MDT up reply actions
If the cavs can make it through all the ugly uniforms, the 70's and Austin Carr...
They can make it through this…May not want to let the young ‘uns watch though, cuz it won’t be pretty…
"The art of war is simple enough. Find out where your enemy is. Get at him as soon as you can and slap the crap out of him before he figures out you are there...."
- me into a mental stupor after forgetting the rest of Ulysses S. Grant's speech....
The NBA had to step in and save the franchise in the early 80s
http://seasonsofdiscontent.com/
by Scott Howard on May 14, 2010 5:03 PM MDT up reply actions
Somebody had to change those God-awful uniforms...
"The art of war is simple enough. Find out where your enemy is. Get at him as soon as you can and slap the crap out of him before he figures out you are there...."
- me into a mental stupor after forgetting the rest of Ulysses S. Grant's speech....
Yeah that's why the lottery is designed the way it is
It keeps moribund franchises from dying by allowing them the chance to draft the best college players. At least Dan Gilbert has shown he’s willing to pay his top draftees to keep them. A lot of clubs, particularly in baseball, end up being basically farm systems for teams with money.
The KC Royals just said "ouch"
"The art of war is simple enough. Find out where your enemy is. Get at him as soon as you can and slap the crap out of him before he figures out you are there...."
- me into a mental stupor after forgetting the rest of Ulysses S. Grant's speech....
thanks for the replies
but are you saying it’s because Cleveland is such a crappy city so they can’t get anyone? But I can name many cities that seem bad (at least on paper): Salt Lake City, Milwaukee, Portland.
So I don’t think location is the only reason…
I would definitely
choose Cleveland over Salt Lake City. I’d go to Milwaukee though because Bango is so freakin cool.
SLC isn't too bad...
They let you have more than one wife there…
"The art of war is simple enough. Find out where your enemy is. Get at him as soon as you can and slap the crap out of him before he figures out you are there...."
- me into a mental stupor after forgetting the rest of Ulysses S. Grant's speech....
Well maybe
but imagine how much energy it would take to chase 2 or 3 wives around. You would have nothing left for scintillating repartee on BSOS.
Yeah, you're right...Gotta keep your priorities in order...
"The art of war is simple enough. Find out where your enemy is. Get at him as soon as you can and slap the crap out of him before he figures out you are there...."
- me into a mental stupor after forgetting the rest of Ulysses S. Grant's speech....
Im so glad you are back to writing your nightcaps, my soul died when you took that day off scott
Steve Nash is the baddest man out there; no one, not even Robert Horry can hold him back. Oh, and Amare Stoudemire does play defense!
Lebron to clippers
PG: Baron
SG: Eric Gordon
SF: Lebron
PF: Blake Griffin
C: Chris Kaman
Lebron gets a point guard that can score and take over the game as well as a great play maker, a shooter in Eric Gordon that can spread the floor and drive to the hoop for fouls, the super athletic super energetic Blake Griffin, and will get to play with an all star center in his prime.
And even Brandon Jennings thinks it would be a good match
http://twitter.com/YUNGBUCK3/status/13979525541
LeBron or Bust !!!!
I dont think Lebron would want to have anything to do with Sterling
if there is a team that doesnt now how to build a contender, its the Clippers.
"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."
Lebron just watched Mo Williams fail
you think he wants a washed-up Baron Davis and too-short Eric Gordon?
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Too late to change the stupid twitter name. Did it as a joke to my teenager, but now I'm hooked on the news-feed aspect of twitter.
Have you ever watched a clipper game
yes Baron Davis isn’t what he used to be but he still his very good at setting up the offense and driving to the hoop which is what he did towards the end of the season when his game starting becoming better. And Eric Gordon is amazing shooter when he isn’t injured, his stroke is pure and he is deadly driving to the hoop because he has a much larger body then any SG that would guard him other then Kobe. He is also very capable of guarding other 2 guards who are larger then him because he is very quick. And unlike Mo who was supposed to be the number 2 scorer EG is very efficient and can easily get 20 points on 7 or 8 shot. And as for the Sterling factor I don’t think Lebron is concerned about an owner because Sterling will basically do anything Lebron wants and won’t step in his way. And Lebron has already stated he doesn’t believe in the clipper curse.
LeBron or Bust !!!!
It would be kind of fun
to see a rejuvenated Baron Davis. I can see how that could work. But I would think that LB would look harder at Chicago.
I have watched Clips games. They were actually scary good in stretches, particularly when they played in Houston.
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