Suns Pre-Draft Workouts Focus On Centers and Wings
Today's haul includes three legit centers and three mid-sized wing players. There's a few interesting names in this bunch, but it was more interesting to see Steve Kerr and David Griffin sitting sideline watching along with Gentry, while Majerle and Kokoskov mostly ran things.
Sarver did show up late, as well.
For whatever it's worth, three different people in the Suns organization I spoke with said everything's going to be alright and sent the "it's all going to work out" message. Clearly, they are sensitive to the negative reaction, but they are going to need to speak more openly about what's going on for the happy-talk to ring through.
On to business, below you will find profiles of the six players that worked out today. I spoke with one of them.
Ryan Thompson, 6'6", SG/SF (poss. PG), Rider
Has great size and is a smart, versatile player who considers himself a possible PG/SG, but has the size of a small forward in the mold of a Terrance Williams, but without the explosiveness and quickness. Younger brother to Kings PF/C Jason Thompson.
Rider’s Ryan Thompson had one of the more revealing performances at Portsmouth, leading the tournament in scoring while demonstrating versatility and an incredibly high basketball IQ.
At 6’6, Thompson has good size for the wing along with solid length and a strong frame. He is a less than impressive athlete, however, and, while he could maximize his physical potential by slimming down some, he will likely remain below average by NBA standards.
On the offensive end, Thompson played an incredibly intelligent brand of basketball and displayed a very diverse skill set. He was most effective as a shooter, hitting 57.5% from the field and 64.3% from beyond the arc. Though he could still get more elevation on his jump shot, he has corrected much of the flat-footed, arc-less shot he displayed as a senior in college, where he shot just 32.4% from beyond the arc.
Thompson continued his good shooting in today's workout with the Suns, hitting 16 of 25 threes in a shooting drill and 21 of 25 twos. Ryan struggled his senior year at Rider due to chemistry and role issues, but his good performance in Portsmouth has several teams giving him good looks. He said the biggest question he's heard from scouts is about his consistent outside shooting.
Ryan said his older brother Jason gave him some good advice about the grind of the pre-draft process.
Suns, Spurs, Nets, Blazers and Heat are teams that Ryan and his agent think might be interested in him. Some teams think he might sneak in late first round or go in the second, but as Ryan said, "You never really know what can happen. You go in there thinking the worst, hoping the best."
He's not listed on any of the major mock drafts, but that's not unusual for second round guys.
Tyren Johnson, 6'7", SF/PF, Louisiana-Lafayette
Combo forward with decent all-around skills, including passing and the ability to defend the pick and roll.
Coming into this camp with little to no buzz after a solid yet not overwhelmingly impressive season on a bad team in the Sun Belt conference, few prospects helped themselves as much this week as Louisiana Lafayette’s Tyren Johnson.
A combo forward with nice physical attributes, including decent size (around 6-8), a nice frame, long arms and good athleticism, Johnson is a versatile player who does a little bit of everything.
Offensively, he likes to face the basket, where he shows the ability to make shots with range out to the 3-point line, albeit inconsistently. He has the ability to shoot off the dribble as well, but is streaky here as well, not always really knowing his limitations at this point.
Defensively, Johnson is interesting, as he showed the ability to guard either forward position at this camp, and contributes to his team by coming up with extra possessions in the form of blocks, steals and rebounds.
Players like Johnson are very much en vogue these days, as he’s essentially the prototype for what teams look for in a Josh Smith style face the basket power forward. Still raw around the edges and clearly not a finished product, Johnson will probably get some looks from teams in private workouts and will be someone to keep tabs on in Europe or the D-League over the next few years to see how he progresses.
Jerome Jordan, 7'1", C, Tulsa
Very long and fairly mobile center with some range and variety of offensive moves. Defense seems to be a work in progress. Projected late 1st round to mid 2nd round.
Strengths: Was one of the most effective centers in the nation as a senior averaging 15 and 9 with over 2 blocks per game ... Has an ideal NBA center frame with tremendous dimensions including a huge (7-foot-6) wingspan on a 7-plus foot frame ... Players his size don't often have his agility. Solid in the open floor and has some leaping ability ... Shows nice touch for a bigman. Has an excellent shooting form on mid-range jumpers and free throws with efficiency (68% as a senior but should be able to shoot better) ... Appears comfortable stepping out to 12-15 feet and knocking down jump shots with good form ... Became a lot more comfortable in his senior year showing the ability to be an effective scorer in the paint ...
Weaknesses: From Jamaica, Jordan was late to playing organized ball but has shown steady improvement over his college career ... Born in Sept 1986, Jordan will be over 24 before he ever suits up for an NBA team. His age takes away some of the intrigue regarding his potential ... Does not appear to enjoy contact and lacks the tough demeanor that you want in a post player ... Lack of body strength becomes apparent when he meets contact ... Has decent body mass but lacks natural strength, particularly in his legs, and will be pushed around at the NBA level ... Likely will struggle to put on additional strength due to his age ... Despite being a fluid athlete, he appears to have a bit of an old man's body and doesn't show great explosiveness or quickness in his movements ...
Anthony Mason, Jr., 6'7", SF/PF, St. John's
Athletic, good size and body, but seems to lack polished game.
Former New York Knick enforcer Anthony Mason’s son, Anthony Mason Jr, was the leading scorer on St. John’s last season.
Hamady Ndiaye, 6'11", C, Rutgers
Projected middle of the second round, Ndiaye is an athletic, raw big known more for his defense, shot-blocking and hustle.
After four years as a shot-blocking specialist at Rutgers, long, athletic 6’11 center Hamady Ndiaye had a solid first game (10 Points 5/8 FG, 10 Rebounds, 2 Blocks, 2 Turnovers) at Portsmouth.
On defense, he played with energy and used his solid lateral quickness, timing, and length to alter more shots than his two blocks indicate. He even was a factor on the boards and boxed out on most defensive possessions, which was interesting given his sub-par rebounding numbers at Rutgers.
On offense, he had a couple of nice jump hooks, but his poor hands, non-existent ball handling ability, questionable instincts, and raw skill set are severely limiting factors, even if he does finish well around the basket. His conditioning also looked poor as he struggled to get up and down the court after a few minutes of intense effort.
Art Parakhouski, 6'11", C, Radford/Belarus
Projected as a mid-second round pick, this guy is a typical large, raw big.
Moving forward, that may be one of the more important developments Parakhouski is yet to make. His size affords him a ton of success against the average NCAA center, and he’s become especially decisive on the block. His poise on the block and ability to get to the line account for his increased scoring average, but Parakhouski continues to show flashes of potential as a shooter.
Usually able to take what the defense gives him, turn into contact, and finish, Parakhouski shows soft touch on the occasions that he goes to his turnaround jumper. Until he develops a more consistent hook shot, he’ll need to improve his ability to hit his turnaround jumpers to compensate for the more physically gifted NBA defenders he won’t be able to seal with a simple drop step.
His jump shot currently features a low release point and little in the way of rhythm- two things he’ll need to work on in the future. If Parakhouski can develop a go-to-move on the block, it will ease his transition to the NBA considerably.
Defensively, Parakhouski has shown some improvement this season, largely due to the improvements he’s made to his body—which looks significantly better. He appears more comfortable making rotations from the weakside, which has allowed him to block more shots based on his size. However, his lack of lateral quickness will likely limit his defensive presence on the next level.
His physical strength allows him play effective one-on-one defensive in the post, and he shows active feet playing in the middle of Radford’s zone, but he isn’t fluid or explosive enough to project as a surefire quality defender just yet.
Parakhouski has put himself firmly on the radar of NBA decision-makers with his play thus far this season –it is hard to ignore a player that ranks third in our database in PER, and has only been playing basketball for about five years now.
He’s positioned himself as one of the top seniors in the NCAA and one of the better center prospects in the discussion for this season’s draft. With all said, he’d still be well served to steer his team to the tournament to put an exclamation point on his resume against a big school to end the year.
Regardless of his play down the stretch, Parakhouski will draw a lot of attention come draft season considering his physical profile, production and the fact that he still has plenty of potential left to continue to improve.
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We'd better get good value for these second round picks
because i’d assume the chances of picking up a 1st rounder by trade are effectively non-existent with Kerr and Griffin half way out the door.
Anthony Mason Jr.
Sounds a lot like his father….
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by Wil Cantrell on Jun 18, 2010 1:36 PM MST up reply actions
We'll probably end up with thompson
Only cause he’s yet another brother to an NBA player. Betting he’ll be better than Jason at some point though
by Batmanthesunsfan on Jun 18, 2010 1:36 PM MST reply actions
I doubt that.
Let’s continue the trend of drafting the lesser brothers! Yeah!
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by Trevor Paxton on Jun 18, 2010 1:45 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
So Seth...
Did you talk to Gentry? Get any vibe from him on the FO stuff?
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by Wil Cantrell on Jun 18, 2010 1:49 PM MST up reply actions
+1 for putting a smile on my face, really needed that with all this Sarver mess.
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From the write-up, Thompson sounds a bit like Dudley.
Or is that just my impression because they describe him as ‘intelligent and non-athletic’?
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I'd go for N'Diaye or Parakhouski because of our need for another true center to step in for RoLo
Wings again? We already have J-Rich, Grant, Dudley, Clark and even Griffin. N"Diaye sounds like a center that has excellent mobility while Parakhouski can be counted on as a low post presence to go along with rebounding skill.
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the implication of working out centers and wings
Working out mostly centers and wings suggests that the Suns don’t think they will lose Amare Stoudemire. Because if they either wanted to let him go or thought they would be unable to keep him, they would want to work out replacement PFs.
by 8472species on Jun 18, 2010 2:51 PM MST reply actions
That's not to say they still won't
They probably will at some point to just cover their backs
by Batmanthesunsfan on Jun 18, 2010 2:54 PM MST up reply actions
We have to assume for now that Amar'e, Frye and Lou are gone.
Replacing Amar’e will be the hardest, while Frye was a gimmick (Good one at that), and Lou deserves a larger pay which he wont get with the Suns.
Does anyone know if Dwayne Jones is coming back or he was waived? Defensive PF and Offensive C (good low post players) are the immediate need. Hopefully Robin develops his offensive game some more and takes up a vital role next season.
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I hope Dwayne comes back next season.
I think he has a team option, right?
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by Trevor Paxton on Jun 18, 2010 3:09 PM MST up reply actions
thats what I heard
non-guaranteed contract for next year. might even play summer league, i thought i heard on Coro’s blog or somwhere. that would be good.
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Thats what I was wondering but then I saw this...
http://hoopshype.com/general_manager.htm
check under Steve Kerr.
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i dunno
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Kerr waived Jones?!
Now I know the story ☻
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I confirmed with the team
that this is not true….Dwayne Jones has not been waived
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by Seth Pollack on Jun 18, 2010 5:29 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
yeah I couldn't find anything besides the site mentioned above
so Seth, will Jones do summer league? I’d like to see him in action
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mostly likely, yes
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by Seth Pollack on Jun 18, 2010 8:59 PM MST up reply actions
Dwayne Jones strikes me as being like Jake Voskuhl with less offense.
by 8472species on Jun 18, 2010 9:35 PM MST up reply actions
but bigger, and a ballhog rebounder
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by Alex Laugan on Jun 19, 2010 10:46 AM MST up reply actions
Losing Lou Amundson is unacceptable. For heaven’s sake, he probably wants only a few million dollars more than whatever he makes; and hell, yes, he has earned it. It’s not like Stoudemire’s demand for $18 million or so.
by 8472species on Jun 18, 2010 3:29 PM MST up reply actions
i think its acceptable
a few million is a lot, considering the limitations the salary cap imposes. I’d rather keep Frye than Lou. Clark needs minutes.
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We will have to disagree. I think Amundson is much more reliable and predictable in what he does. Frye is as unreliable as a slot machine. Forced to choose, I would keep Amundson in a second.
by 8472species on Jun 18, 2010 4:14 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
Agree and rec'd
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Ummm...Frye was the 6th most consistent 3 point shooter in the league - and of the 5 ahead of him,
not one of them played more than 51 games – except Dudley. 43.9% is not unreliable, and our floor spacing depends on him.
I also want to keep Lou, though. And of course he is more reliable and predictable – we don’t rely on him for scoring. We do rely on Frye to score.
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Well, I wouldn’t like to lose Frye unless it came down to a choice between him and Amundson. It’s just that a player who plays defense, rebounds and generally works his ass off is harder to replace than a player who…um…is tall and shoots three-pointers.
by 8472species on Jun 18, 2010 9:37 PM MST up reply actions
and had 13 rebounds in game 6 of the WCF
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by Alex Laugan on Jun 19, 2010 10:47 AM MST up reply actions
Frye gets a bad rep...
Understandably so due to his performance in the playoffs. Fans have a very short memory, and when our 3-point shooting center suddenly hits a 17 missed shot slump at the worst possible time, that’s what people remember.
But as haremoor brought up, he was a very good scoring option for us during the regular season, and was the difference in more than a few games where he turned around the momentum in our favor.
Do I want to loose Lou? Not at all! But if it came down to a decision between Lou and Frye, I would have to go with Frye. His skill set is much more unique than Lou’s, and believe it or not, he has more upside as he is still developing his inside game and defense as well.
Add to that we expect to see Earl Clark get more minutes next season, which would likely impact Lou’s minutes anyway…But we still have no viable option to replace what Frye brings to this team by spreading the floor with his shooting. If he can develop a consistent defense that we saw in spurts throughout the season, he could be a very important player for us beyond just a one-trick pony.
the only prob with Frye
is that he was the most successful before teams figured him out. nobody expected for him to come out and bomb threes. It took half way through the season before the other teams to realize how to defend him. Teams now know how to guard him which makes him much less of a weapon. He admitted himself that once the defense learned his game he was less affective. On top of that he doesnt adjust well to the defense. I like him and wish he would come back, but not until he shows more dimensions to his game.
I agree
He should have taken the player option for another year to prove something else aside for his 3 point shooting.
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got to see Jerome Jordan play a bit this year at Tulsa
guy looks smooth, but not strong. On the Suns he would probably need to work on the outside shot. I like his moves though, kinda reminds me of JaVale McGee?
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a lot of these guys look very interesting
for 2nd round picks… not bad at all. hopefully the suns can get a 1st to go with it (LB), and at least 2 of these names with where they are picking
I guess we have to wait on any discussions for 1st round picks until we make the trade. Unfortunately that may not be until draft night.
Looks like there are some picks out there with Memphis and Minnesota.
by Suns Fan For Life on Jun 19, 2010 11:06 AM MST reply actions
the other assistant coaches
I wonder why Majerle and Kokoskov ran the workout instead of assistants Bill Cartwright or John Shumate. Or is Cartwright not with the Suns anymore?
by 8472species on Jun 19, 2010 2:30 PM MST reply actions
cartwright is with the Suns
he got extended too.
Majerle and Kokoskov focus on the kids
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by Alex Laugan on Jun 19, 2010 10:12 PM MST up reply actions
Maybe Cartwright doesn’t handle them well.
by 8472species on Jun 19, 2010 10:14 PM MST up reply actions
i thought ryan thompson looked the best out of those guys easy
I know we have to many guys all ready at the 3 spot but i think were putting all our eggs in basket with clark way to early, like the guy hasnt proven shit yet and really his college stats and videos werent super impressive either, he still could easily be a bust.
Plus we could play thompson at backup SG to richardson, with our coaching staff thompson has potential to develop, he attacks the basketball off the dribble and isnt afraid to create his own shot off the dribble at times. whether he could carry this thru to nba is another thing but he looks best prospect to me
that would be our 3rd 'worse brother'
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by Alex Laugan on Jun 19, 2010 10:13 PM MST up reply actions
What if Grant Hill voluntarily sat out some regular-season games to make room for Earl Clark’s development?
by 8472species on Jun 19, 2010 10:11 PM MST reply actions
The only game/s that Grant might sit out are those of back to back games.
If he won’t sit it out, then I hope it’s ok for him to let Clark start those games.
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any chance?
that earl clark will get dealt for a draft pick along with or instead of LB? Would it make sense to?
Why trade Clark?
Even if the Front Office managed to trade Clark, the best pick they’ll get is 18th and below. LB is the one that I think needs to be traded.
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At 46...
At 46 the Suns should be pretty damn happy with Parakhouski. The best damn scorer and rebounder in the country that can drill the 18 footer? Come on!
by Brian Simontacchi on Jun 21, 2010 8:54 PM MST reply actions

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