Turk, Chill, Warrick And The Suns' Rebounding Battle

There are also many intangibles to consider when you look at last year’s rebounding going into this year, specifically being that all the guys on the frontline (possibly excluding Turk) are on the upswing of their career.

And anyways, rebounding is lame and boring. That’s what the Lakers do. Bunch of losers.

Is stopping the other team from rebounding properly understood to be part of the rebounding or the defense? I find it hard to say. Gray area?

And about Turkoglu: analyses of him are frustrating, in that I’ve heard both that he’s “good but not great” in this or that category and that he’s “overrated” in this or that category. His skills are sort of all over the map, and so are opinions about him. He’s clutch; he’s versatile; he’s good but not great; he doesn’t rebound; he was key on the Magic’s Finals team; he’s overrated.

We just recieved Turk and Chill, while giving up LB and a 2nd round pick. Awesome.

I think our wings are underestimated in our rebounding because most other teams have big men to do that for them. But JRich for me was terrific towards the end of the season and in the playoffs in grabbing rebounds, and I expect that to continue.

What worries me though is that the Suns don’t have a 20+ ppg scorer. J-Rich averages just under 16, Nash is about the same, and basically Hill, Lopez, Turk, Dragic, Dudley, Childress will all chip in. But if you look at all the other top teams, they all have a dominant scorer. I feel the Suns need one, or someone to step up and become it.

We still need a starting PF. I wish we could some how get Josh Smith from ATL and try Turk at SF

I agree, the rebounding won’t be that big of a difference between the starting unit from last year, and our bench rebounding will actually be better…maybe even considerably better with players like Chill, Warrick (who isn’t a bad rebounder contrary to belief), and possibly even Lawal if he gets minutes.

Just like last year, I think this team is going to surprise a lot of people all over again.

Chris Paul attended Carmelo Anthony’s wedding in New York City on Saturday, and during a speech he allegedly said “We’ll form our own Big 3” — referring to himself, Carmelo, and Amare Stoudemire all being Knicks.
This is coming via the NY Post from “a person who spoke with wedding attendee Amare Stoudemire,” so take it with a grain of salt. The Knicks are eyeing Chris Paul and Tony Parker as possible point guards of the future, and they continue to pile up assets and cap space for future years.

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/me_amar_and_melo_BU8MzS41wIdwRYLU1D7NTJ#ixzz0tUKw3veE

Amare might not be alone for too long. Or he is becoming delusional … could be either way….

How is Sarver making these major decisions? Who is advising him? This Babby guy? Gentry and the coaching staff? These are bold basketball moves from a banker.

Don’t forget that Turk played with D. Howard who is a rebound black-hole which limits Turks ability to get rebounding numbers. Then he played for Toronto at the SF with another 10Reb/game guy(bosh) at the PF limiting his space to get boards. With the Suns, there’ll be plenty of SPACE on the court to get boards. Remember what a similar sized Shawn Marion did while in Phoenix…10/11 rpg!!!….If 6’7" Marion can grab that many here, is it inconceivable that Turk can grab 6-8rpg?

We were 26-21 last year until we started Lopez.

Now we lost Amar’e and lou. Expect us to be around 26-21 next season before we use the 5.7TPE and/or trade Warrick/J-Rich. I guarantee it.

Yes, we made the WCF in 06, but the West is bigger and better since then. Also, we had Marion who could grab 10+rpg with or without Amar’e.

I don’t like the acquisition of Hedo that much either. I’d rather of gotten Scola.

I like Childress though.

We also have Warrick, Lawal, Collins, and Clark – all 6’9 or 10". We will be a lot bigger this year.
Unfortunately, there’s not a lot of bigs to get out there – and they are bringing ridiculous money.

I think a line-up of-
Nash
J-Rich
Turk
Warick
Lopez

looks good.

How do you like Nene for J-Rich?

I don’t suppose you can ever have too much depth, but this Suns team is going to be so deep that several players will be hopelessly buried. Some of them either won’t make the team or won’t matter, like Taylor Griffin, but unless he suddenly becomes vastly improved, there is no way Earl Clark will outcompete Hedo Turkoglu, Josh Childress and possibly Hakim Warrick for minutes. Gani Lawal and Dwayne Collins (if he makes the team) will be buried too if they’re not always in the d-league, but not as badly as Clark.

I am guessing that the Suns don’t really want Hakim Warrick anymore. It’s just that after getting Childress and Turkoglu, they have an army of other forwards—Hill, Clark, Frye, Childress, Turkoglu, Lawal, Collins. When Sarver ran out and agreed to terms with Warrick, he probably had no idea that Lon Babby would bring him Childress and Turkoglu. After trading Barbosa for Turkoglu, they need guards, not forwards.

Why all the posts suggesting that Jason Richardson be traded? If he left, there would be no one to play shooting guard except Goran Dragic. Would you like Taylor Griffin to back him up?

before we go looking for what we need.
The games aren’t played on paper – if they were, we would have been 11th in the West. We ended up the third seed because our new ‘interim’ coach put a 6’11" center on the perimeter to stretch the floor, jacking up 3’s at a 44% rate- and it worked. I doubt if Gentry is crying today – he had input on these trades, and right now, he’s thinking – and that’s good for the Suns.
   We’ve given up almost nothing to get what we’ve got (excluding Amar’e, of course, but that was going to happen anyway). Essentially, we got Hedo for LB, and Warrick, Childress, and 6.2 mil more exemption for Amar’e, when we could have gotten nothing. I’m stoked.
     Let’s see what these guys and Gentry can do before we bury them, shall we?

Raptors would send us Turk while they get Barbs and 2nd round pick. Bobcats give Chandler and Diaw while Raptors sends Calderon and Reggie Evans. I think we should have gotten Chandler too for a back up for Robin even for a single season.