Suns Agree To Terms With Hakim Warrick In Smart, Decisive Move
by Seth Pollack on Jul 2, 2010 8:50 AM MST
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PrintClearly, Robert Sarver was not willing to wait around and see another one of their targeted free agents get scooped up by another team as happened to Amir Johnson, who signed a rather large contract (5yrs/$34m) with the Raptors yesterday.
Nor did he want to see the price for their guy continue to be driven up as this crazy free agent market got even more desperate, as the big cap space team were left scrambling to fill their rosters.
The impatient Sarver struck fast this morning, coming to terms with 5-year power forward Hakim Warrick. According to Yahoo!, the deal is 4 years/$18m, however KTAR's Gambo reports the final year is a team option, making it a 3yr/$12m deal with the 4th not guaranteed.
$4.5m per year isn't a huge hit to the payroll and the three years isn't too large of a commitment for a guy who's roughly a 10-point, 4-rebound, 20-minute backup.
This likely is further indication that Amare isn't coming back (no surprise), but the deal isn't so large that it precludes the Suns from doing a sign-and-trade with another team like Houston if that option comes up. But the Suns couldn't afford to wait and see IF Houston wanted Amare and IF Amare wanted Houston and IF the Suns could agree to terms with Houston and IF Luis Scola could agree to a new contract the Suns were willing to accept. That's a lot of IFs.
We'll have more on Warrick soon, but my recollection of him is of an athletic power forward with a decent mid-range game. Not known as a defender or rebounder, one could imagine a platoon of guys getting minutes on the Suns front line as opposed to one guy who can both score, defend and rebound.
The Suns, wisely, won't try and replace Amare with one guy but will have a group approach and seek a longer term "star" solution down the road. Given the options at power forward in this market, that's the best approach.
Gut reaction, I like the deal. It was decisive and fills a roster need without making a long or large commitment that will limit flexibility to go after better players should those opportunities arise.
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As a Bucks fan too I saw Warrick first hand last season...
He really is a very poor mans Amare…
The contract is pretty low risk though…
Hollingers scouting report
“Warrick is a quick power forward with long arms but a thin frame. He’s a below-average defensive player because he lacks the strength to battle against big power forwards on the blocks. Despite good leaping ability, he’s also a mediocre rebounder and shot blocker. "
Hmmm sounds an awful lot like Amare….
“Offensively, he loves to set up at the elbows, especially on the right, and either shoot a jumper or make a quick drive and draw a foul. "
Also sounds like Amare…
but like half the talent
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One thing here is fans have to separate THIS deal from Amare's situation
Warrick is a not a true replacement for Amare. I like the deal a lot, and it’s low-risk. Losing Amare still sucks big time, but this is a good move when facing a lose-lose situation with your ex-star power forward.
Time for Robin Lopez to really step up.
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I could see Warrick filling much the same role... I don't know how he is in the pick and roll because the Bucks never used him for this...
he was just used on Amare-esque isolations… if Warrick can effectively learn to pick and roll and gets starters minutes at PF he could be 16ppg, 7rpg this year… which isn’t a bad value for the money…
I would have preferred
a flyer on Tyrus Thomas. At least Thomas is a good (at times) defensive player.
Warrick just seems like a body.
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Nah, Warrick's got some skills
He’s been improperly used almost his entire career.
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by Justin Burning on Jul 2, 2010 9:03 AM MST up reply actions
Basically
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by Justin Burning on Jul 2, 2010 9:21 AM MST up reply actions
I believe we should not get too high on Warrick.
Its an average contract for an average player. Low risk low reward.
Slumdog Millionaire without the million.
I'm not that high on him compared to top-tier players
He’s a stop-gap starter, and a good backup on a low-risk deal.
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by Justin Burning on Jul 2, 2010 9:37 AM MST up reply actions
We have done very well lately on getting high reward for low risk lately.
I think the Suns have done better at this than any other team – they have earned my confidence. Alvin Gentry isn’t dumb, and he had to think this was a good idea, so I’m going to assume they know what they’re doing.
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They do well true,
probably only a tie with Houston though in the best at it category.
I agree
Thomas is better than Warrick but would cost a lot more to pry him from the Bobcats
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What I've read about TT is that he's a talented cancer.
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yup
he’s got ….issues. I am gathering intel on Warrick from guys who watched him play. So far, the reports are good.
He is what he is, but Suns don’t need a head case.
Lou isn’t gone yet either. So you could end up with a Robin, Frye, Warrick, Lawal, Lou, D Collins, D Jones group (except that’s too many so probably Collin and Jones don’t make it unless the Suns are so far under the lux tax they can carry 15 guys which is possible
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A lot of next year's success is going to depend
On Robin Lopez continuing to develop and hopefully Clark doing something good.
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by Justin Burning on Jul 2, 2010 9:22 AM MST up reply actions
Who do you think is better?
D Collins or D Jones?
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Well, this deal is really looking like an indication that we're going to S&T Amare
and the Houston offer is looking ridiculously better than it did last night and it looked very good last night. So… I’m game. Let’s do the sign and trade asap so we can get on with moving Barbosa to get some cash and draft picks.
In Nash I Trust!
Steve Nash DOES play defense, foo!
that's not up to the Suns
we don’t get to pick Houston….there’s a TON that has to go right for that deal to happen. Don’t hold your breadth on that
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That makes me one sad panda.
In Nash I Trust!
Steve Nash DOES play defense, foo!
by NashMV3 on Jul 2, 2010 9:02 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
First if is Bosh is Houstons first option
Second if is will Amare go to Houston with a team of Ming,Brooks, Ariza or Battier (whoever comes with the SnT) and Budinger?
Third if is Amare can just take the NY offer outright but he will lose that 30mill.
Fourth if is will NJ, Miami or Chicago swoop in for Amare to get a desperate marquee FA when they strike out on the top 3.
Slumdog Millionaire without the million.
I think some teams will get desperate. We haven't seen much restraint yet.
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Dorothy
:(
That would be ideal. I like the Warrick addition but Amare’s subtraction makes it hard to feel good. Even if we got a large TPE out of it I’d feel much much better.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
So....even though WE won't give Amare the contract he wants
If another team is willing to pay him the 5 years/104 million that we can offer him, Amare would still benefit by doing a sign and trade, right?
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
sure, by 4 mil
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Too late to change the stupid twitter name. Did it as a joke to my teenager, but now I'm hooked on the news-feed aspect of twitter.
Actually, we can still offer the 6 year, 127 mil, if someone is
desperate stupid motivated enough to pay it, right?
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Dorothy
Yeah we could
I just think every team would be like “har har Amare, you are very funny”
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Not gonna happen.
For which I am exhaling a huge sigh of relief.
Nash will make Warrick look good
But we’re going to miss Amare’s brilliance on offense.
Man I’d be a lot less upset right now if we had Babacar Riffiod here again.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
amare's offense
Amare’s offense isn’t all that. He made all his points in garbage time, when the game was on the line, he rarely delivered. It’d be up to Nash, Jrich or others.
This move is good because the Suns get a guy who fits the system and can either start or come off the bench
Right now and the very least Channing is the replacement. That isn’t so bad. Remember when Amare went down and Tim Thomas filled the role nicel?. Channing is the same type of playe, now he starts. I agree with Sarver not letting another role playing jem slip away. Now lets see if they keep Barbosa, sign and trade Amare. My assumptions have been correct so far, my gut is telling me the Suns are just getting this started. The Suns probably need one more player now I tell you I like the Sciola move from Houston if it happens because if Channing starts he’ll up his points, you add Sciola and Hakeem and you just replaced Amare with points scored and added a guy in Channing for chemistry in your starting lineup. I think the Suns will be better!
cant believe it
amare is going and we sign a guy i didnt think we need aaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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This reminds me of the Stromile Swift signing...
The guy has many of the same attributes that Amar’e has, but no feel for the offensive attack. Best case is 19 ppg/7rpg, worst might be 10ppg/5rpg.
This signing would leave us with 3 million left under the cap.
I guess we use that for Lou and draft picks, right?
Warrick best case according to draft express
is Stromile Swift.
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Timon: It means no worries for the rest of your days
Timon: It's our problem-free philosophy
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Really?
Because I would consider Warrick better than Stromile already.
Off topic: Stromile Swift is the best name of all time.
Looking forward to the Kevin Kolb era.
5-8-10...the day the Purdue Boilermakers basketball team won the 2011 NCAA Championship!!
Yep I agree
Sounds like a race horse’ name
Timon: Hakuna Matata! What a wonderful phrase
Pumbaa: Hakuna Matata! Ain't no passing craze
Timon: It means no worries for the rest of your days
Timon: It's our problem-free philosophy
Both: Hakuna Matata!
The Lion King (1994)
What a great morning.
I wake up to read that STAT has rejected the Suns’ final offer and we sign Warrick, which means we can’t do the Houston S&T. Great… just great…
In Nash I Trust!
Steve Nash DOES play defense, foo!
It doesn't mean that.
We are still able to S&T with Amare if the right circumstances arise. Still a lot of ways to get this done.
Ok, then I'm not as down as I was earlier this morning.
I just hope a good opportunity arises. I really want Scola =(
In Nash I Trust!
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Not happening.
I am getting more and more excited about keeping Luis in Rocket Red.
Low risk. I like that.
Putting the “is he replacing Stoudemire?” stuff aside, he’s a guy who will be able to help our team at a reasonable price. I see Warrick as a guy who could blossom in our system, where he’s an unusually good fit, much like Frye did. Check his scouting report from when he was drafted. http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Hakim-Warrick-NBA-Draft-Scouting-Report-2719/
We’ve talked about his weaknesses (poor man’s Stoudemire seems about right), but how about the fact that he “runs the floor extremely well, and will often beat his man up the floor.”? That will get him a lot of easy buckets playing for us.
I like the signing - I don't know a lot about Warrick, but contract wise, you can look at him as a Lou replacement.
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Now we're waiting on some team to want Amar'e for a max contract for 6 years
so we can do a S&T deal to give us some nice pieces.
In Nash I Trust!
Steve Nash DOES play defense, foo!
I would have like 4/16 for Lou actually and would have felt less like crap.
Slumdog Millionaire without the million.
Lou is known for defense
Warrick is known for what?
Timon: Hakuna Matata! What a wonderful phrase
Pumbaa: Hakuna Matata! Ain't no passing craze
Timon: It means no worries for the rest of your days
Timon: It's our problem-free philosophy
Both: Hakuna Matata!
The Lion King (1994)
Tremendous athelticism
Running the floor and throwing down thunderous dunks, and hitting mid-range jumpers. Sound familiar?
dunking on people
And disappointing in the dunk contest.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Warrick's not nearly as agood a rebounder or defender as Lou, unfortunately
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by Justin Burning on Jul 2, 2010 9:22 AM MST up reply actions
with Nash, Warrick will probably raise his scoring average by 4-5 points a game
by 7Swords of Salat on Jul 2, 2010 9:24 AM MST reply actions
Which is great for next year but then what?
I have no issue with this contract at all but I think Warrick will obviously benefit greatly from Nash as does everyone else on the floor.
Looking forward to the Kevin Kolb era.
5-8-10...the day the Purdue Boilermakers basketball team won the 2011 NCAA Championship!!
In 2011, we have a lot of cap space
When J-Rich moves on to greener pastures.
So yes, next year will be kind of painful, though still entertaining I think. We’ll hopefully get ourselves a lottery pick and then either with that lottery pick or through free agency, we can find a more proper Amare replacement.
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by Justin Burning on Jul 2, 2010 9:38 AM MST up reply actions
Well if they do get a lottery pick, which is obviously possible if they don’t make the playoffs, I feel like they are going to need some luck…like 76ers luck this past year to move up 5-6 spots in the lottery.
Looking forward to the Kevin Kolb era.
5-8-10...the day the Purdue Boilermakers basketball team won the 2011 NCAA Championship!!
Don't see the Suns being
bad enough to fall into lottery. Could make playoffs if the young guys keep improving.
There are a lot of factors for that to happen.
Amare was the best pass catcher in traffic with the patience and soft hands to finish. We dont know that about Warrick, will he catch Nash’s passes for that perfect PnR. Also with Amare gone, I believe both Nash and Jrich will take up a lot more responsibility of scoring which would give Warrick less opportunities.
Slumdog Millionaire without the million.
24 hours ago
i was hoping we would resign Amare, but signing Frye to an outrageous contract and now Warrick, there are only two options;
1) He wants to package him (Warrick) with LB for whoever, and resign Amare. This could be nice
2) Amare isn’t coming back- depending on the situation, S&T might be good, but letting him go for nothing will mean Nash and Hill can kiss their ring dream goodbye. The team will finish 7th-8th and won’t get an impact player in the Draft. A crazy fan will lose his mind and burn Sarver’s house (lets hope this option doesn’t happen).
Now we know why Kerr left.
The team now has 2 defensive rookie PFs and 2 veteran no D PFs. This is bad
People love the Dunk, but i'll rather see a skillful athletic shot, a super 3-pointer from another area code or seeing players get Dragic-ed
can't package Warrick for 2 months with any other player
its either an immediate S-n-T with other players, or a 1-to-1 trade for 2 months, or in combo with others after 2 months
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i know
the season won’t start till october, and two months fron july 9, is september, that is even before training camp
People love the Dunk, but i'll rather see a skillful athletic shot, a super 3-pointer from another area code or seeing players get Dragic-ed
40 pounds
The difference between Amare and Warrick is about 40 pounds. Warrick is a much smaller man.
Just what we needed to compete with the Lakers!
I would MUCH rather have seen them trade Bosa for a real PF, like Brandon Bass for instance.
You can give up on the idea that we'll be doing much competing in the playoffs next season
It’s lottery pick time! Team will still entertain, though. We’ll be like last year’s Grizzlies.
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by Justin Burning on Jul 2, 2010 9:39 AM MST up reply actions
wow too early for that prognosis
sheesh
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I'm a "prepare for the worst, hope for the best" kind of guy
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by Justin Burning on Jul 2, 2010 10:06 AM MST up reply actions
I prefer pleasant surprises to disappointments
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by Justin Burning on Jul 2, 2010 10:06 AM MST up reply actions
I'm a "cry when I think about the glory days" kind of guy
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
PFs
Amare is one of a kind. High scoring, low basketball IQ, poor rebounding, below average defense, draws lots of fouls.
But there are tons of PFs available in the league that might be a better fit on the team. Heck what about Dirk. You can throw the ball into Dirk in the post and he can convert. Amare – not so much, pretty much only the pick and roll for him.
But yeah Scola, Bass, Perkins, Boozer and more there are a ton of PFs out there that can bring something to the table.
I think we need LB's scoring more than ever next season
If we’re trying to replace 20 ppg by committee, he’s going to be a part of that.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
by rsavaj on Jul 2, 2010 9:29 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
If we’re giving out grades, I’d give the Warrick deal a B and the Frye deal a C. Do most of you have it the other way around?
Banzai!
Nope, same for me
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Well, B and C+
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
nah....
probably the way you put it. Put out some minuses on them though… I don’t think Warrick would have gone for anything higher than this in a week, even though it obviously is a high demand offseason.
I give the Warrick deal an A-
The Frye deal a C-
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by Justin Burning on Jul 2, 2010 9:39 AM MST up reply actions
starting to move a little in that direction myself.
Banzai!
by Suns' Sensei on Jul 2, 2010 10:24 AM MST up reply actions
So what will happen with Lou?
Will Hakim be off the bench? Will Frye also be off the bench? Will rebounding die like the dinosaurs with Lou gone.
Where will Earl Clark’s playing time come from now.
It just seems like we have quite alot of Forwards now
"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness
Yeah...Hill/Dudley/Clark at SF, Lou/Warrick/Frye/Lawal/Collins/Jones at PF
NINETUPLE DEVASTATION!
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Could we be setting up for a trade to move some of these guys?
"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness
I hope so
I don’t like Warrick as a starter
Timon: Hakuna Matata! What a wonderful phrase
Pumbaa: Hakuna Matata! Ain't no passing craze
Timon: It means no worries for the rest of your days
Timon: It's our problem-free philosophy
Both: Hakuna Matata!
The Lion King (1994)
Yeah, we have such a glut of Forwards now. I have to imagine something must be in the works
"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness
I think Frye is still going to play backup center for Robin
Timon: Hakuna Matata! What a wonderful phrase
Pumbaa: Hakuna Matata! Ain't no passing craze
Timon: It means no worries for the rest of your days
Timon: It's our problem-free philosophy
Both: Hakuna Matata!
The Lion King (1994)
My bad, you're right
OCTUPLE DEVASTATION!
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
I agree
Warrick will start at PF, and I could see Lawal doing a lot of backup at the 4.
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by Justin Burning on Jul 2, 2010 9:41 AM MST up reply actions
Clark's mroe a 3
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by Justin Burning on Jul 2, 2010 9:43 AM MST up reply actions
or
we could still resign Amare to 5 yrs/104 mil and he retains his position so does Frye, Warrick backs up Amare. This possible by first signing Amare, trading LB for nothing (may be future draft pick or pick) signing Warrick and then giving Frye the MLE.
I wonder though if this will happen and if it does, what happens to D? Nash, Amare, Frye, Warrick are all below average on D and JRich is just about average. This means we only have Hill and RoLo among starters and Dudley, Dragic and may be Clark on the bench. May GOD help us
People love the Dunk, but i'll rather see a skillful athletic shot, a super 3-pointer from another area code or seeing players get Dragic-ed
What about a S-n-T w/Cleveland?
There are rumors that the Cavs are interested in dealing with the Suns to acquire Amare.
JJ Hickson + Delonte West + draft picks anyone?
It's not how you play the game it's how you win it
I still prefer Lee or Scola
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
+1
Lee was my prefered option sign and trade with Knicks as all the media are saying thats where Amare will sign oh well sarvar the GM lets see how this will turn out
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Might be some possibilities there - don't like Hickson or West, though.
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Dorothy
Guys...suns don't have ANY control
of a sign and trade. We can’t say, let’s sign and trade Amare to X for Y. It’s not up to the Suns at all
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having watched a lot of Warrick from his days at syracuse and memphis, not so much with mil
in college he was actually known for his defense. Including the championship preserving block on Hinrich. But obviously things are different in the NBA.
However, when he actually given solid minutes for Memphis he produced quite well on both sides of the floor. While a starter at the end of ‘06-’07 and the beginning of ‘07-’08 he was at about a 18 and 7 clip. Wasn’t really used well in Mil or Chi, so we hopefully but the 18/7 Warrick with Steve Nash and see what happens. I just wish he was bigger
dammit
Michael Lee, who got the ball from Hinrich
cut me some slack
I was 12 when that happened…Great team though, only real modern example of a freshman squad winning it all
But warrick I think will prove to be our guy. I don’t know if a “replacement by committee” philsophy can really work
i'm sensitive :'(
and that was a stinging ‘yup’
From Coro,
It is an acknowledged step back for the organization but the Suns do feel like Warrick is a defensive upgrade and that he likely would start at power forward for them. Warrick will make $4 million in each year of his contract but could make an extra $2 million with playing time incentives.
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Almost anyone would be a defensive upgrade over Amare haha
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
My head hurts
Timon: Hakuna Matata! What a wonderful phrase
Pumbaa: Hakuna Matata! Ain't no passing craze
Timon: It means no worries for the rest of your days
Timon: It's our problem-free philosophy
Both: Hakuna Matata!
The Lion King (1994)
Yup, we are screwed.
I was cool with the contract if he was a bench player. I’m officially in Scott Howard’s mood right now.
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
Wait......starter?????
"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness
Makes sense to me
Frye played better on D off the bench
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
I know, and agree, but i didnt really think Hakim would start. It just doesnt seem right
"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness
So this is how you build a team huh?
Get a bunch of spare parts and then hope you can put a star around them? Not a fan of that method.
Ugh.
/still thinks you don’t give Amar’e what he wanted and that he got a fair offer from PHX
RIP Seasons of Discontent
Well unfortunately, there's no better way right now
You get stars through the draft. That’s really the only successful way. Getting stars through free agency rarely works, except Shaq to LA.
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by Justin Burning on Jul 2, 2010 9:42 AM MST up reply actions
I will also say...
I’m a fan of Warrick’s work in the 2003 NCAA Championship game when he blocked Michael Lee’s attempted game winning three point attempt. Take that KU.
RIP Seasons of Discontent
+4320492340342904
Suckers! Wasting time playing bball when you could be chillin’ on a beach.
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by Justin Burning on Jul 2, 2010 9:49 AM MST up reply actions
Hey, at least we can get draft crazy next season
I love the draft.
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by Justin Burning on Jul 2, 2010 9:50 AM MST up reply actions
Well here's the annoying part
We’ll end up relatively low lottery. No way Suns will be one of the 5 worst teams.
RIP Seasons of Discontent
Word.
I always wanted Steve Nash to play out his final years on a team struggling to finish 10th in the West. Hells yea
RIP Seasons of Discontent
I still think we'll make the playoffs
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Just because ridiculously early predictions are fun....
Lakers-Mavs-Nuggets-Spurs-Thunder-Blazers look like locks.
Rockets should add a decent name + Yao = return to playoffs
Jazz obviously well up in the air w/ Boozer.
Hornets having a presumably healthy CP3.
PANIC!
RIP Seasons of Discontent
As usual it'll be 10 teams fighting for 8 spots
I like our chances
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Spurs not necessarily a lock.
Look to be resigning Jefferson, folks are a year older. Good bet but not lock.
Mavs, same team that was bounced in the first round, minus Haywood possibly, again older. Probably a lock but not necessarily dangerous.
Nuggets, those guys could implode at any moment. Kenyon on creaky knees, JR on psych meds, again, probably there but not necessarily dangerous.
Hornets, not much to go with CP3, no better chance than the Suns.
Jazz, no Boozer, no new help, probably no Korver. In the mix but, not a lock.
Rockets, all hope rests on Yao’s bones. Probably a playoff team even if they break, but not dangerous without him.
Bottom line. Suns have as good a chance as anyone else if the young guys develop.
30 games at best
Tank please so we can get Harrison Barnes
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
Please.
We have Nash. We have Grant. We have JRich. We have Lopez. We have Channing. We have Dudley. We have Goran. We have Barbosa.
We have promising forwards in Clark, and the two draft picks, and Warrick. We have a little room to maneuver with some cap room. The sign and trade for Amar’e isn’t dead yet.
We have Nash. Did I mention that?
Auntie Em: Hate you, hate Kansas, taking the dog.
Dorothy
I think we'll win 35-42 games next year
And just miss the playoffs.
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by Justin Burning on Jul 2, 2010 11:31 AM MST up reply actions
Lots of pressure on the guards next year to create if the Suns don’t make any more significant moves.
Banzai!
I was thinking the same thing
We need Nash to work his magic so he can turn Warrick into a poor’s man Amar’e.
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
Theres also the trust factor, will Nash develop that trust with Warrick as he did with Amare.
That does take time and one summer of practice wont actually do it. Hopefully during the course of the season, if Warrick shows some soft touches, slick finishes and nice dunks. Nash would be more inclined to give the ball to him.
Slumdog Millionaire without the million.
Hard to believe the Nash/Amare pick and roll is no more...
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Oh come now
The Nash/Warrick P&R will be an awesome derivative.
Like “The Ropers” to Nash/Amare’s “Three’s Company” or “Joey” to Nash and Amare’s “Friends”
/horrible spinoff jokes
RIP Seasons of Discontent
by Scott Howard on Jul 2, 2010 10:01 AM MST up reply actions
best
case scenario is if amare want to sign and trade and keep his brid right and we can get a TPE
"Da Suns’ Bench. Call them Victoria’s Secret — all kinds of wonderful support."
lol if he's okay with playing in Charlotte and Charlotte's okay with paying him, sign and trade him for Boris!
And Boris will awaken from his “oh, Amare’s back? Then I will go to sleep”…slumber.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
like
normal everybody is panicking and hopefully Nash will get us back to the playoffs again next year.
"Da Suns’ Bench. Call them Victoria’s Secret — all kinds of wonderful support."
So we don't replace Amare with Scola or Lee
We get Warrick….. :(
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
the suns have been pretty good
at finding gems at a decent price
Channing, Matt Barnes, Lou come to mind. And Warrick is definitely another great find. I prefer him to Scola, not that he’s necesarily better, but he’s low risk, much higher potential reward
Scola and Lee are still options
Warrick is more of a Lou replacement than an Amar’e replacement
by hcblankscreen on Jul 2, 2010 10:11 AM MST up reply actions
Gani is a Lou replacement
Amare is probably going to sign max with New York, so we can’t do a S&T for Scola, and Lee will want around 11-14million per year, we only have 6 million with Amare gone.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
Amar'e hasn't even met with NY yet
Can’t make that assumption. If Bosh passes on Houston, they’ll probably look for Amar’e over Boozer in a S&T.
by hcblankscreen on Jul 2, 2010 10:18 AM MST up reply actions
Scola goes nowhere
unless a premier power forward comes back in his place. Morey Likes Scola. If we get no superstar, we keep Scola.
Question:
one thing I don’t get is this: aren’t NBA types saying the salary cap is going to keep going down until the economy recovers? And while there are signs the economy is recovering, its looking like it could be a slow process. So these teams that are spending right up to the cap this summer are potentially going to be screwed in years to come, no? They may be under the cap next year, but the cap may very well go down again and they’ll still be stuck with these long max contracts. Maybe Sarver is being prudent in staying below the cap and not committing to any extreme contracts right now? Is it possible his being conservative with his money is a wise choice – long term – for the Suns? Anyone have thoughts about this?
btw – regardless I still think it sucks that Amare is gone and we won’t see the team brought back for another run. :[
It's not how you play the game it's how you win it
Agree
Being burdened with bloated contracts is at least as bad as letting good players walk. Just ask the Knicks. I’m not at all sure that participating in this league-wide spending spree is a good idea right now.
If we pay Amare max, and his knees break down again or his desire to play D and rebound wane (both completely possible and foreseeable), we’ll be in a world of hurt.
by East Bay Ray on Jul 2, 2010 10:15 AM MST up reply actions
That’s exactly what I was thinking. Maybe owners are hoping a lockout will affect this in some way? It’s possible that J-Rich’s expiring could be very valuable in a few months…
Banzai!
by Suns' Sensei on Jul 2, 2010 10:15 AM MST up reply actions
an interesting article on the impending lockout of 2011 and its implications in this summer's free agent frenzy
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=adande_ja&page=FreeAgency-100702
It's not how you play the game it's how you win it
by Johnny Ryall on Jul 2, 2010 10:36 AM MST up reply actions
Everybody take a deep breath and calm down
Geez, the overreaction on this thread is as bad as a game thread. This is obviously a fluid situation. Let’s wait and see how it settles out.
Well we are all prisoners of the moment...
…and the moment is Warrick replacing Amare, you need a bucket?
Slumdog Millionaire without the million.
Like I said, "fluid situation"
Amare’s not gone yet. And, if/when he is, we’re not done replacing him.
As for Warrick, were you fired up when we got Jared Dudley? Or Lou Amundson? Or Channing Frye? Give the guy a chance and you might grow to like him, and grow to like our team with him on it.
by East Bay Ray on Jul 2, 2010 10:12 AM MST up reply actions
We didn't get Jared Dudley, Lou Amundson or Channing Frye as "replacements"
to NBA super stars, one of our only all-stars.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
You assume we got Warrick to "replace" Stoudemire?
And that we will rely on only him to replace Stoudemire? I’m not making that assumption.
by East Bay Ray on Jul 2, 2010 10:17 AM MST up reply actions
Gamboi tweet
@Gambo620 Last offer Amare turned down 5 yrs $96.6 with 1st 3 years ($56) fully guaranteed and last 2 yrs gtd based on playing roughly 65 games
I think this is a PERFECT offer for Amare. Really 100% perfect. If the guy is healhy, he gets all the money.
Twitter: @dahking
Too late to change the stupid twitter name. Did it as a joke to my teenager, but now I'm hooked on the news-feed aspect of twitter.
That offer is awesome.
Cmon Amare, what better situation will you be then a ready made team waiting for you in your own backyard. All it needs is your horse power to make it run, its already well oiled and maintained ready to go.
Slumdog Millionaire without the million.
Amare would have only had to play about 65 games
in EITHER the 3rd or the 4th season to guarantee the last one.
Why wouldn’t he take that? Because someone else will give him all the years guaranteed while he recovers from his injuries…
Twitter: @dahking
Too late to change the stupid twitter name. Did it as a joke to my teenager, but now I'm hooked on the news-feed aspect of twitter.
I think Amare doesn't get it
That Sarver is willing to throw that much money to him even with all his defensive woes and the owner would only want some kind solution if he ever goes down with a knee or eye injury. Now that I think about it, Sarver isn’t really cheap but even wiser than I give him credit for.
Timon: Hakuna Matata! What a wonderful phrase
Pumbaa: Hakuna Matata! Ain't no passing craze
Timon: It means no worries for the rest of your days
Timon: It's our problem-free philosophy
Both: Hakuna Matata!
The Lion King (1994)
Its a crazy notion but Sarver is coming out to be the good guy.
Now dont throw me under the bus for saying that, but a contract such as that when we all agreed that Amare wasnt worth the max is just absolutely perfect no matter what scenario you want to put it as.
His fourth year of the contract will be his 9th year since he had his MF surgery, and every medical book has a procedure such as that requires a redo in the 7th or 8th year. I just dont understand how these other teams(maybe Miami is not) arent looking at that and are so blind that they will take the risk.
Slumdog Millionaire without the million.
I don't even know what goes through Miami's Pat Riley and Houston's Daryl Morey's mind
when they want to pursue Amare and not even consider pairing him with another star of their own that has had a major injury before. In Miami you have Wade’s knees and in Houston you have Ming’s lingering foot problem.
Timon: Hakuna Matata! What a wonderful phrase
Pumbaa: Hakuna Matata! Ain't no passing craze
Timon: It means no worries for the rest of your days
Timon: It's our problem-free philosophy
Both: Hakuna Matata!
The Lion King (1994)
In defense of Morey,
his choice is Bosh not Amar’e. He has a window with Yao, like Sarver does with Nash. They are trying to maximize the window of superstars.
And, there has been no report that Morey would offer a true Max to STAT, just that he was interested in him. Remember, DM wouldn’t pull the plug on a Feb trade because Kerr wanted to forego the physical. Smart move on the part of both GM’s if you ask me.
Yeah....if he turned that down then bye bye Amare
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
right
Twitter: @dahking
Too late to change the stupid twitter name. Did it as a joke to my teenager, but now I'm hooked on the news-feed aspect of twitter.
I mean if he's not sure that he'll be healthy for at least 65 games then why should we be?
That is such a fantastic offer for him. Blah.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
MY DREAM!(that is no longer possible)
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
wtf why is he three.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
I didn't make it so I dunno
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Don’t they know we already have a sweet-shooting forward with that number???
Banzai!
by Suns' Sensei on Jul 2, 2010 10:17 AM MST up reply actions
haha I like that
It could still happen if a bunch of very unlikely things occur!
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by Justin Burning on Jul 2, 2010 10:15 AM MST up reply actions
His body is too long
Timon: Hakuna Matata! What a wonderful phrase
Pumbaa: Hakuna Matata! Ain't no passing craze
Timon: It means no worries for the rest of your days
Timon: It's our problem-free philosophy
Both: Hakuna Matata!
The Lion King (1994)
Nash will hold P&R auditions during training camp
Warrick, Lawal, Collins, and maybe Clark will see who has the best pick’n’roll skills with the best one getting the starting PF spot.
If none of them figure it out, we can always run it with Lopez and have JRich be the #1 option.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it!
Who is going to start PF?
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
According to Coro, it's likely going to be Warrick
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by Justin Burning on Jul 2, 2010 10:39 AM MST up reply actions
Woj (Y! Sports
with another confirmation of what I think it a perfect offer for Amare:
“The Suns made a last-ditch proposal to Stoudemire, offering him a maximum contract with the first three years worth about $71 million guaranteed, sources said. The fourth season of the offer contained a 50 percent guarantee that could become fully guaranteed based on the number of minutes Stoudemire played in the first three seasons. The fifth season of the contract also could become guaranteed based on a minutes incentive.
The Suns put in the incentives because of concerns over Stoudemire’s past knee and eye injuries. Insurance won’t cover Stoudemire’s salary if he can’t play because of any additional problems to either of his knees or his right eye."
Twitter: @dahking
Too late to change the stupid twitter name. Did it as a joke to my teenager, but now I'm hooked on the news-feed aspect of twitter.
This is the reason I can't be mad at Sarver
And why I can root for Amar’e to fail on a grand scale in NYC
RIP Seasons of Discontent
by Scott Howard on Jul 2, 2010 10:32 AM MST up reply actions
I don't want him to fail
I just don’t want him to make us look bad, haha
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
I want him to fail
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
I want to see him and LeBron make sweet music with D'Antoni conducting
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
The reality is any of these teams that gave sold eveything for 2 max contracts are going to suck except Chicago. They are the only ones with any pieces left. The Knicks will not make the playoffs and the Heat will be lucky if they even make them at all.
by Suns Fan For Life on Jul 3, 2010 5:42 PM MST up reply actions
I'm clearly a bigger dick than you
But we knew that already.
RIP Seasons of Discontent
by Scott Howard on Jul 2, 2010 10:34 AM MST up reply actions
He is not going to have anywhere near the success he had with the Suns in NY.
Bunch of scrubs with Amare leading the pack aint going anywhere. Pau Gasol, Kevin Garnett, Ray Allen, Paul Pierce all could not do it. Dont get me wrong, he is going to be a beast offensively score in huge numbers but his team will be mediocre.
Slumdog Millionaire without the million.
theres no Nash in NY
Twitter: @dahking
Too late to change the stupid twitter name. Did it as a joke to my teenager, but now I'm hooked on the news-feed aspect of twitter.
If they get LeBron the LeBron/Amare pick and roll will be devastating
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
You think Lebron will go to NY with Amare being his sidekick?
Especially with Amare playing center.
Slumdog Millionaire without the million.
For sure. I like LeBron+Amare way more than LeBron+Bosh, even though Bosh is a better player
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Lebron is in the win championship now mode.
NY does not have the supporting pieces to make that happen.
Slumdog Millionaire without the million.
Ehh, not really
First, Amar’e was great in the P&R because Nash had soft passes, while LeBron has quick, hard passes. No way does Amar’e make that switch in a year.
Second, NO defender would buy a LeBron P&R because LBJ is the best finisher in the league, by far.
If Wade were somehow introduced into the equation as a cutter, this would work, but a 2-man game between Amar’e and LBJ doesn’t sound like a meshing combo.
by ajotanelsona on Jul 2, 2010 10:53 AM MST up reply actions
LeBron can't pass. He's an overrated passer.
Amar’e needs a really good passing point guard.
In Nash I Trust!
Steve Nash DOES play defense, foo!
I actually think LeBron is an underrated passer :/
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
He's a passer
But not at Nash’ level
Timon: Hakuna Matata! What a wonderful phrase
Pumbaa: Hakuna Matata! Ain't no passing craze
Timon: It means no worries for the rest of your days
Timon: It's our problem-free philosophy
Both: Hakuna Matata!
The Lion King (1994)
Almost every player who has left Phoenix after playing with Nash for 2 or more seasons
has failed after leaving. Bell, Diaw, Marion and Shaq are just a few. I expect STAT to do the same. You can’t boast that the Nash-Stoudemire P&R is Stockton-Malone with more flavor and jump ship. I don’t want you to fail, but it’s more than likely it will happen.
In Nash I Trust!
Steve Nash DOES play defense, foo!
Joe Johnson??
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
I said 2 or more seasons. JJ only played 1 full season with him.
In Nash I Trust!
Steve Nash DOES play defense, foo!
Well then what does this say about the whole team after Nash leaves/retires?
Looking forward to the Kevin Kolb era.
5-8-10...the day the Purdue Boilermakers basketball team won the 2011 NCAA Championship!!
Let's not think about that
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Diaw has actually done pretty well in Charlotte
It's not how you play the game it's how you win it
by Johnny Ryall on Jul 2, 2010 11:14 AM MST up reply actions
I want him to fail, miserably.
Houston has NYC picks in the next 2 drafts :)
yep
Twitter: @dahking
Too late to change the stupid twitter name. Did it as a joke to my teenager, but now I'm hooked on the news-feed aspect of twitter.
He says he wants to be a Sun, he says he'll take a pay cut to be a Sun
I’m sure he’ll back up those statements just like he backed up the ones about becoming a Ron Artest-like defender.
by hcblankscreen on Jul 2, 2010 10:35 AM MST up reply actions
I'm really pissed off at Amare right now
if that was the Suns offer. really pissed.
And really proud of Sarver for doing the right thing: you play, you get max. You get hurt, we get flexibility.
Twitter: @dahking
Too late to change the stupid twitter name. Did it as a joke to my teenager, but now I'm hooked on the news-feed aspect of twitter.
by Alex Laugan on Jul 2, 2010 10:39 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
+1 billion
This is exactly how I feel
RIP Seasons of Discontent
by Scott Howard on Jul 2, 2010 10:39 AM MST up reply actions
fuck Amare
Twitter: @dahking
Too late to change the stupid twitter name. Did it as a joke to my teenager, but now I'm hooked on the news-feed aspect of twitter.
by Alex Laugan on Jul 2, 2010 10:43 AM MST up reply actions 9 recs
Agreed >:0
"If the Suns can shock the world
Goran Dragic is the name."
by Dragic_is_Magic on Jul 2, 2010 3:48 PM MST up reply actions
I really want him to fail.
Im so angry at Amar’e, I cried last night. Even though I knew this would probably happen I wasn’t prepared for how bad it hurt. :( It felt like losing an old friend.
Clearly, I am a sensitive basketball fan, lol.
"If the Suns can shock the world
Goran Dragic is the name."
by Dragic_is_Magic on Jul 2, 2010 3:46 PM MST up reply actions
I want him to fail, totally and miserably.
We have NYC picks for the next two drafts :)
Suns are screwed
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
he's got hops!
Warrick jumps out of the gym like Amare did before the knee troubles …
Of course this is a “highlights” video so he’s going to look good! :)
I hope he works out and we’re all pleasantly surprised next season …
It's not how you play the game it's how you win it
by Johnny Ryall on Jul 2, 2010 10:28 AM MST up reply actions
Bulls fans I'm talking to say that Warrick has fallen in love with his midrange game
And his midrange game sucks. And they said they were very disappointed with him on defense, especially considering his physical gifts are similar to Tyrus’s.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
There's a big differece between our offense and the 09-10 Bulls
I think we’ll see much better results there.
by hcblankscreen on Jul 2, 2010 10:32 AM MST up reply actions
On offense for sure
But his rebounding rate is terrible…worse than Amare’s :/
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Woj update
Knicks and Amar’e Stoudemire are making progress on 5 year, max contract, sources say. Framework of deal in place, talks continuing today.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
What kind of details need to be hammered out?
Apparently Amar’e is unwilling to accept 5 years with any sort of contingency so I’d assume it’s 5 years at the max with no strings or nothing else.
RIP Seasons of Discontent
by Scott Howard on Jul 2, 2010 10:37 AM MST up reply actions
The Knicks overpay EVERYBODY!
And it seems like they are the only team willing to give Amare the max guaranteed with no injury conditions on it. This is reason to feel good that we made the right decision, no?
by East Bay Ray on Jul 2, 2010 10:39 AM MST up reply actions
correct
Twitter: @dahking
Too late to change the stupid twitter name. Did it as a joke to my teenager, but now I'm hooked on the news-feed aspect of twitter.
Suns having enough for a max contract in 2011...
But who the hell would they even get?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?page=FreeAgents-10-11
RIP Seasons of Discontent
They will give Diaw the max
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
Melo?
one can always dream …
It's not how you play the game it's how you win it
by Johnny Ryall on Jul 2, 2010 10:38 AM MST up reply actions
Best names on there are
Caron Butler
Jamal Crawford
Carl Landry
Kevin Durant
Carmelo Anthony
Marc Gasol
Zach Randolph
JR Smith
Wilson Chandler
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
just because you have max money doesn't mean you spend it in one place
The Thunder are masters at that.
Twitter: @dahking
Too late to change the stupid twitter name. Did it as a joke to my teenager, but now I'm hooked on the news-feed aspect of twitter.
Durant and Gasol will not be FA’s next year. They will both get inked up before then.
I could be good with Melo or Landry.
Looking forward to the Kevin Kolb era.
5-8-10...the day the Purdue Boilermakers basketball team won the 2011 NCAA Championship!!
Randolph is good, but a headcase
Butler is good, but inconsistant
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
MELO!
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
in 2011 the most important thing
will be the new cap in the new CBA….strong possibility that there will be teams that are over the new cap and need to dump payroll. I suspect being a team with cap space and flexibility in that environment could be very beneficial
Raising Arizona Sports at SB Nation Arizona twitter: @sethpo
by Seth Pollack on Jul 2, 2010 11:23 AM MST up reply actions
+1
In 2011, I wonder how many of us will be talking about how genius the Suns’ plan was?
Bloggin' 'bout AZ sports ... SB Nation Arizona
by Justin Burning on Jul 2, 2010 11:32 AM MST up reply actions
Yeah the Lakers are virtually the same team,
unless we had a blockbuster move, with Amare we practically had the same team that took them to 6 games. Now 2011 gives us loads of possibilities and options, Dragic, Dudley and Robin will be a year wiser, our expirings will get us some awesome pieces back to compliment them. Looking forward to 2011.
Slumdog Millionaire without the million.
The thought of Carl Landry
taking passes from Dragic or Nash should make you drool.
WOJ UPDATE
Knicks and Stoudemire working on 5-year deal worth nearly $100 million, sources say. Another team chasing Amar’e believes he’s off board
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
so he goes to NY to play C
for a team with only 3 players and none of them good?
Yeah, its all about championships isn’t it?
Twitter: @dahking
Too late to change the stupid twitter name. Did it as a joke to my teenager, but now I'm hooked on the news-feed aspect of twitter.
And that is what pisses me off so much about this, and why I hope Amare fails, or at least, his team fails. I have never been a huge Amare fan. I have certainly enjoyed what he has done here but I always felt he was an ego freak. He proved it time and time again with the fact that he couldn’t get along with Matrix. Not that Matrix wasn’t an ego guy himself. Amare tried so badly to lump himself in with Bron, Bosh and Wade because he thinks he is of their caliber and he isn’t. He says he wants to stay here, he would take a pay cut to do so etc and yet, at the end of the day he is going somewhere, where he can be the man and get paid. And that’s fine, I don’t begrudge him his earnings, but don’t act like you want to win and then go to NY where winning won’t happen. Even if they got another max guy they will still be a team of two max players and a bunch of bums filling the roster.
Looking forward to the Kevin Kolb era.
5-8-10...the day the Purdue Boilermakers basketball team won the 2011 NCAA Championship!!
Good for Amare. He can go to NY and be the man like he has always wanted to be. He can go to NY and play for Mike and win roughly 40 games, continue to be allergic to defense and then get bitch slapped in the first round of the playoffs. NY will not get another max player I can see it now.
Lebron and Wade to Miami, Bosh to who cares where and J.J gets the Max from Atlanta….Max from Atlanta, still funny two days later.
Looking forward to the Kevin Kolb era.
5-8-10...the day the Purdue Boilermakers basketball team won the 2011 NCAA Championship!!
The Knicks and Heat are using Amar'e...
To get LeBron and/or Wade. Signing Amar’e shows dedication to giving a superstar some support. If they get him and no LeBron, they’ve lost. Amar’e is just there for the ride, and as long as he gets paid, he doesn’t care about the destination.
This reminds me of high school, when your hot GF dumps you for the QB but he just wants to date her to meet her older sister.
Sounds more and more like any S&T is dead.
"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness
WOJ UPDATE AMARE KNICK!
Knicks and Amar’e Stoudemire in serious talks on 5 year, max contract; Deal could come as soon as Friday.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
I kind of wish that we had absorbed Beasley's salary though
Beasley>>>Warrick
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
But Beasley has no drive for No.2 pick.
He wishes he went back to college for god sake. Also chemistry issues, no matter how many mentors you think can fix that, it needs to come from the inside.
Slumdog Millionaire without the million.
Timon: Hakuna Matata! What a wonderful phrase
Pumbaa: Hakuna Matata! Ain't no passing craze
Timon: It means no worries for the rest of your days
Timon: It's our problem-free philosophy
Both: Hakuna Matata!
The Lion King (1994)
by Spit_Fire on Jul 2, 2010 10:51 AM MST reply actions 6 recs
Amazing!
"If the Suns can shock the world
Goran Dragic is the name."
by Dragic_is_Magic on Jul 2, 2010 3:49 PM MST up reply actions
Alright, so lets assume that Amar’e signs with the Knicks which means no SnT with Houston. Lets assume than that Houston can’t get Bosh either which means they will try to resign Scola. I say we go after Scola or try a sign and trade of Lou/ Barbosa/Lawal for him and Battier. What do you guys think?
Mike Miller
we can afford him
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
He's not going to the Lakers most likely
they gave him a deadline of yesterday
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
and he is a good help defender
not as good as a 1 on 1
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
They wouldn't.
Les Alexander has given Morey free reign to meet any offers for Scola and Lowry. We are not, I repeat not, giving up Luis for less than true star.
Personally, I hope we keep him. I’d like to see the Rockets as currently built with a healthy Yao. I will take my chances and love my team.
Lakers > Amare
I said it.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
Amare belongs in NYK, they both suck
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
by Suns R Us on Jul 2, 2010 11:03 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
No fuck Amare.
I hate him, 5 year 96million was definitely fair. Sign and trade for Lee is the only thing that will make me happy.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
I mean the Knicks can only have Amar’e of Lee. They might as well do a SnT with us for Amar’e if they really want him.
Lee is better than Amare
so with Lee they were bad so with Amare they will be worse.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
Word...I think DLee would make us really good.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Seriously though...we don't need to get anybody back in a sign and trade
Just a 16 million dollar TPE and a 2nd rounder or something! Come on Amare….just agree to a sign and trade.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Amare won't agree to a S&T because he hates us and wants us to get no talent in return
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
If that's true then I kinda hate the guy
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Is it wrong...
that the thing I am looking forward to next season is hearing the chorus of boos Stat gets when he comes back here?
Looking forward to the Kevin Kolb era.
5-8-10...the day the Purdue Boilermakers basketball team won the 2011 NCAA Championship!!
by EREX21 on Jul 2, 2010 11:17 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
Nope STAT sucks!
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
I won’t boo him. I still like him and I’ll miss him.
Perhaps there was more to it to why he didn’t accept Sarver’s offer.
It was because he knew he was going to be injured and he would not get paid if he was injured with that contract.
I’m going to boo.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
Love the new pic
Timon: Hakuna Matata! What a wonderful phrase
Pumbaa: Hakuna Matata! Ain't no passing craze
Timon: It means no worries for the rest of your days
Timon: It's our problem-free philosophy
Both: Hakuna Matata!
The Lion King (1994)
Thank you.
:D
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
Yeah Sarver's offer was wise.
Why hamper yourself when you know a player has an injury history. And 65 games is not outrageous, even if he sits every back to back, he will make that number. If it was money vs winning, Amare chose money as simple as that.
Slumdog Millionaire without the million.
Nope, you are not wrong
He will be booed. Loudly everytime he touches the ball.
Timon: Hakuna Matata! What a wonderful phrase
Pumbaa: Hakuna Matata! Ain't no passing craze
Timon: It means no worries for the rest of your days
Timon: It's our problem-free philosophy
Both: Hakuna Matata!
The Lion King (1994)
So he will get booed 40 minutes a game
I mean, who else on New York is good enough to be able to touch the ball.
Knicks record in 10-11: 28-54
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
Hey that's our 09-10 record flip-flopped. Smart choice, Amare!
In Nash I Trust!
Steve Nash DOES play defense, foo!
Well no one ever accused Stat of being smart.
Looking forward to the Kevin Kolb era.
5-8-10...the day the Purdue Boilermakers basketball team won the 2011 NCAA Championship!!
by EREX21 on Jul 2, 2010 11:21 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Gallinari?
Timon: Hakuna Matata! What a wonderful phrase
Pumbaa: Hakuna Matata! Ain't no passing craze
Timon: It means no worries for the rest of your days
Timon: It's our problem-free philosophy
Both: Hakuna Matata!
The Lion King (1994)
Gallinari is pretty good
Hill is still better
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
Well since NY is looking to give a max deal to STAT
let’s give them what they want and do a sign and trade and give them STAT with a 6 year max contract and we get back David Lee and hopefully Wilson Chandler.
In Nash I Trust!
Steve Nash DOES play defense, foo!
Yes! Lee and Chandler would be great!
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
I don't see what other options we have.
Amare criticized D’Antoni for not teaching him defense, yet he’s going back to him KNOWING there is no defense.
Seriously Amare…. if you think you’re going to be healthy and will play at your optimum level, it wouldn’t matter if the money is guaranteed or not because you’re so confident you will be playing those minutes that you’ll get paid anyway. It’s just an insurance for our team. Obviously we have faith in you or we wouldn’t be offering you the deal, but I just don’t understand why the guarantee makes any difference.
In Nash I Trust!
Steve Nash DOES play defense, foo!
No, we wouldn’t get back Chandler. They wouldn’t agree to that. They at least need to have a supporting cast around Amar’e and Lebron.
LeBron won't go to NYK
there are reports that the NYK meeting with LeBron was bad. Allan Houston said it was bad too. New Jerseys meeting was the best so far.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
Dude, NJ is the place.
I don’t know if they will get anybody, but go read about the presentation they made to Lebron – International marketing on a scale only enjoyed by Yao Ming to date. My wife is Chinese, and I;ve spent a lot of time in China the last decade, and you just have no freaking idea how omnipresent Yao is there – the salary he earns for playing basketball is probably 2.5% of his total income.
Besides, NJ has a core of players that are really good – Devin Harris, Brook Lopez, and others. They should be in really good shape, and they could land a dream team.
Auntie Em: Hate you, hate Kansas, taking the dog.
Dorothy
I also saw a thing about Income Tax for Miami, which is 0%, NJ which is like 3-4% and NY which is 12.85%…I wonder if Amare knows that 12.85% of his big pay day just got taken away from him. Dipshit.
Looking forward to the Kevin Kolb era.
5-8-10...the day the Purdue Boilermakers basketball team won the 2011 NCAA Championship!!
by EREX21 on Jul 2, 2010 11:52 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
The guy is a moron
Timon: Hakuna Matata! What a wonderful phrase
Pumbaa: Hakuna Matata! Ain't no passing craze
Timon: It means no worries for the rest of your days
Timon: It's our problem-free philosophy
Both: Hakuna Matata!
The Lion King (1994)
According to Yahoo Sports
its 5 years at 100 million so I doubt there’ll be a need for sign and trade.
Timon: Hakuna Matata! What a wonderful phrase
Pumbaa: Hakuna Matata! Ain't no passing craze
Timon: It means no worries for the rest of your days
Timon: It's our problem-free philosophy
Both: Hakuna Matata!
The Lion King (1994)
I think Amare would prefer 6 years at over 120 mill
And Phoenix would agree since we’ll be getting a replacement for him in Lee.
In Nash I Trust!
Steve Nash DOES play defense, foo!
I think that deal is nowhere to be found
And his camp knows it. Maybe the best offer to Stoudemire is the one from the Knicks.
Timon: Hakuna Matata! What a wonderful phrase
Pumbaa: Hakuna Matata! Ain't no passing craze
Timon: It means no worries for the rest of your days
Timon: It's our problem-free philosophy
Both: Hakuna Matata!
The Lion King (1994)
Sarver said he was "considering" making a run for Lee.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
S-n-T is dead
Twitter: @dahking
Too late to change the stupid twitter name. Did it as a joke to my teenager, but now I'm hooked on the news-feed aspect of twitter.
um, why would NY do a SnT?
They already have Amare ready to sign a 5yr deal. They don’t need the Suns unfortunatly …
I am sad … :(
It's not how you play the game it's how you win it
He gets more money and years with a SnT
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
Again…Amare is an idiot.
Looking forward to the Kevin Kolb era.
5-8-10...the day the Purdue Boilermakers basketball team won the 2011 NCAA Championship!!
He gets more money
Which means they pay more money. If you can have him at 99 instead of 104, you go for the 99.
It’s up to Amare.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Because Amare gets the 6th year in the SnT, thats an extra 30 mill.
Slumdog Millionaire without the million.
I'm furious
That motherf*cker said it was about winning and he goes to New York. Since when was winning became synonymous with New York?
Timon: Hakuna Matata! What a wonderful phrase
Pumbaa: Hakuna Matata! Ain't no passing craze
Timon: It means no worries for the rest of your days
Timon: It's our problem-free philosophy
Both: Hakuna Matata!
The Lion King (1994)
If you are the Yankees.
Looking forward to the Kevin Kolb era.
5-8-10...the day the Purdue Boilermakers basketball team won the 2011 NCAA Championship!!
Or the Giants, but they suck now.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
The 2nd pick in the draft from 2008 can't be given away for free
LB won’t be moved.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
LB is a trading dealine move and will be impossible to move in the summer.
Slumdog Millionaire without the million.
Trade Barbosa for Lee.
D’Antoni loves Bosa, Amare loves Bosa, he scores and why do the Knicks need Lee when they have Amare?
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
I highly doubt Lee would want to be signed at 7-8 mill per year.
In Nash I Trust!
Steve Nash DOES play defense, foo!
Nash will use his Jedi Mind trick.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
Just a thought….Sixers are looking to get rid of Andre Iguodala’s contract if they can find a taker….Suns?
Looking forward to the Kevin Kolb era.
5-8-10...the day the Purdue Boilermakers basketball team won the 2011 NCAA Championship!!
If they give us their 1st round pick next year that would be great
Timon: Hakuna Matata! What a wonderful phrase
Pumbaa: Hakuna Matata! Ain't no passing craze
Timon: It means no worries for the rest of your days
Timon: It's our problem-free philosophy
Both: Hakuna Matata!
The Lion King (1994)
Why couldn't we have traded Amare for Iggie.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
He probably would
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
Haha well we only have 2m after the Warrick signing
Maybe he signs with us for the vet min!
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
0.01% chance
the .1 if Nash uses his Jedi Mind trick.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
What if we send Amare to the D-League so he can't sign with the Knicks?
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
He belongs there because of his douche attitude
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
Interesting strategy
I think he’d average 60 ppg
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Nice Seth.
The Suns, wisely, won’t try and replace Amare with one guy but will have a group approach and seek a longer term “star” solution down the road. Given the options at power forward in this market, that’s the best approach.
This is the best thing you said in the whole piece. The Suns are looking forward. Great sign.
Reading is good...
by N8lol on Jul 2, 2010 11:32 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
This sucks. All we do is replace Amar’e with Warrick(a guy who is half as good as him). We are going to be worse next year. I was at least hoping to get Scola(who can play defense).
I was hoping for the Houston sign and trade.
Timon: Hakuna Matata! What a wonderful phrase
Pumbaa: Hakuna Matata! Ain't no passing craze
Timon: It means no worries for the rest of your days
Timon: It's our problem-free philosophy
Both: Hakuna Matata!
The Lion King (1994)
"IT'S ABOUT WINNING"
Reporter: Amare, are you going to resign with the Suns.
Amare: IT’S ABOUT WINNING.
Suns go to the conference finals
Reporter: Suns were 2 wins away from the Finals, the Suns proved they can win. If they offer you the max will you sign there?
Amare: There is a very good chance of that.
Amare signs with the Knicks
Reporter: Why did you sign with the Knicks and not the Suns?
Amare: IT’S ABOUT MONEY!
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
Boycott Amare.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
Lou will win defensive player of the year.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
and the rebounding title. Warrick won’t command as many minutes as Amar’e which means more minutes for Lou!
Lou will be like Rodman, except less crazy, and more swagger
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
Earl Clark will become an all-star
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
We can always dream☺
Timon: Hakuna Matata! What a wonderful phrase
Pumbaa: Hakuna Matata! Ain't no passing craze
Timon: It means no worries for the rest of your days
Timon: It's our problem-free philosophy
Both: Hakuna Matata!
The Lion King (1994)
Timon: Hakuna Matata! What a wonderful phrase
Pumbaa: Hakuna Matata! Ain't no passing craze
Timon: It means no worries for the rest of your days
Timon: It's our problem-free philosophy
Both: Hakuna Matata!
The Lion King (1994)
Show me the money!
Looking forward to the Kevin Kolb era.
5-8-10...the day the Purdue Boilermakers basketball team won the 2011 NCAA Championship!!
Nash goes into the locker room, looks in the Stoudemire locker and finds
with a note attached, “Didn’t show me the money bitches”
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
Amare is a greedy dick.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
yep
Twitter: @dahking
Too late to change the stupid twitter name. Did it as a joke to my teenager, but now I'm hooked on the news-feed aspect of twitter.
You've got to be fucking kidding me with this:
Just saw, per @chadfordinsider, that PHX had to renounce Amare to make room for Warrick. This means PHX can’t S&T Amare. Jesus, that’s dumb.
http://twitter.com/MikePradaSBN/status/17591443259
RIP Seasons of Discontent
Why? Contracts can’t be signed until the 8th anyway?
Looking forward to the Kevin Kolb era.
5-8-10...the day the Purdue Boilermakers basketball team won the 2011 NCAA Championship!!
No clue
Someone who knows more about this explain that and make it better immediately.
RIP Seasons of Discontent
by Scott Howard on Jul 2, 2010 11:43 AM MST up reply actions
Where are you dking, or Seth?
Please say it ain’t so.
In Nash I Trust!
Steve Nash DOES play defense, foo!
Coro clears it up
http://twitter.com/paulcoro/status/17591938541
RIP Seasons of Discontent
by Scott Howard on Jul 2, 2010 11:45 AM MST up reply actions
Good to hear
I WANT THAT TPE
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
What does the trade exception do?
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
Allows us to take that amount of salary back without giving anybody in return
It’s like having cap space kinda. 16 mill TPE means we can get 16 mill in salaries back for nothing.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
So we can get Lee? or what?
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
Well, later on in the season if whoever signs Lee wants to dump his contract
And his contract starts at under 16 mill, then yeah, technically we could.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
I think it makes sense
We wouldn’t have the cap room to sign Warrick unless Amare’s cap hold was off the books
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Your fucking kidding me.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
Well, it doesn't say anything about renouncing Amare's rights on Chadford's twitter
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
Well this was long time coming, Amare was dangled in trade rumors for the past 3 years.
The depressing part is, we got Warrick for Amare.
Slumdog Millionaire without the million.
Or sign draft pics
and stay out of Lux Tax land
by ajotanelsona on Jul 2, 2010 11:44 AM MST up reply actions
Yeah we still have to sign our rookies, atleast one of them or both.
Slumdog Millionaire without the million.
Do we have to use that 2m or just be under the cap?
Or it doesnt matter, we are over the cap either way. Dking where are you when I need you.
Slumdog Millionaire without the million.
I want the Suns to play the Knicks in Phoenix
and then Lou dunks on Amare, and Amare cries.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
Stoudemire doesn't care
about his best friend Jared Dudley, about Steve Nash or Grant Hill, about the coach who wants him back Alvin Gentry.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
He is a dick
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
and a greedy one
Timon: Hakuna Matata! What a wonderful phrase
Pumbaa: Hakuna Matata! Ain't no passing craze
Timon: It means no worries for the rest of your days
Timon: It's our problem-free philosophy
Both: Hakuna Matata!
The Lion King (1994)
That's what makes me the most angry about all this!
He posted on his twitter that he had a blast with his teammates this year when he said that he opted out of his contract. Now he is going to leave that all behind for money? You would think he would’ve been listening when everyone was saying that this team had unbelievable chemistry.. How could he be so greedy?? :( I hope none of his new team mates are nice so he realizes what he’s missing here.
"If the Suns can shock the world
Goran Dragic is the name."
by Dragic_is_Magic on Jul 2, 2010 3:52 PM MST up reply actions
What I really hope
is that his teamates do not blame the organization for Amare leaving. Ther is sometimes a a real clique mode in these players. They just want their buddy to get paid, and if he doesn;t than it is the FO’s fault.
by Suns Fan For Life on Jul 3, 2010 6:06 PM MST up reply actions
SpearsNBAYahoo
“While NY free agent F-C David Lee could be involved in a sign and trade, source said no current scenario involves the Phoenix Suns. "
"Da Suns’ Bench. Call them Victoria’s Secret — all kinds of wonderful support."
bummer
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
No current one!
ALVIN AND SARVER GET IT DONE!
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
SnT for TPE and Draft pick isnt bad.
Keeps our future from going into the tank.
Slumdog Millionaire without the million.
Houston fan here
Just letting you know, any deal for Amare (which is a longshot at this point) means you guys will probably have to take Jared Jeffries and his contract. It will probably be something like Scola, Battier, and Jeffries for Amare.
Daryl Morey is god
Noooo, we want Ariza!
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
Also Amare is not going to Houston,
with a core of Ming, Brooks, Ariza and Budinger. He would rather go to NY, if he wants to play with another broken down center, inconsistent shooter and shoot first PG.
Slumdog Millionaire without the million.
oh no
"Just saw, per @chadfordinsider, that PHX had to renounce Amare to make room for Warrick. This means PHX can’t S&T Amare. Jesus, that’s dumb. 11 minutes ago via TweetDeck "
Another Tweet looks like no Sign and Trade aaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
"Da Suns’ Bench. Call them Victoria’s Secret — all kinds of wonderful support."
What NashMV3 said
Coro cleared it up
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
All that the renounce rights means, we wont get a player in return.
Rather the TPE and pick. Better than nothing.
Slumdog Millionaire without the million.
a Pick from NY would be nice
Since it will probably be a lottery pick because they suck.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
No one will go to New York.
Not even LBJ. Amare will be forced to play throughout the whole 82 games in suck.
Timon: Hakuna Matata! What a wonderful phrase
Pumbaa: Hakuna Matata! Ain't no passing craze
Timon: It means no worries for the rest of your days
Timon: It's our problem-free philosophy
Both: Hakuna Matata!
The Lion King (1994)
am i right in thinking
even though we agreed the HW deal we can still pull it off the table cos he has not signed it ?
"Da Suns’ Bench. Call them Victoria’s Secret — all kinds of wonderful support."
So Amare thinks he is going to win with
Eddy Curry
Chris Duhon
Wilson Chandler
Danilo Gallinari
Toney Douglas
and JR Giddens?
LOL HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH
Dumb.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Duhon is a goner. Chandler needs to play a lot of minutes to be effective. Gallinari is a 6’9 version of Frye. Toney Douglas? The guy doesn’t even know how to make plays. Eddy Curry? The only working muscle in his body are from his jaws.
Timon: Hakuna Matata! What a wonderful phrase
Pumbaa: Hakuna Matata! Ain't no passing craze
Timon: It means no worries for the rest of your days
Timon: It's our problem-free philosophy
Both: Hakuna Matata!
The Lion King (1994)
I have a theory.
I think Amare prefers the NY deal BECAUSE he suspects his knees might give out on him in the future as well. Since NY guarantees the last 2 years, STAT will be guaranteed the money no matter what happens. I think he’s afraid to keep up his end of the bargain because he too is worried about his knees.
In Nash I Trust!
Steve Nash DOES play defense, foo!
I have a theory…Amare is a douchebag who cares about the green. Period. End of stor.y
Looking forward to the Kevin Kolb era.
5-8-10...the day the Purdue Boilermakers basketball team won the 2011 NCAA Championship!!
by EREX21 on Jul 2, 2010 11:54 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't think that's a theory as much as a truth
Amar’e has had 2 season ending injuries in the last 5 years….I’d be a bit concerned if I were him also.
RIP Seasons of Discontent
by Scott Howard on Jul 2, 2010 11:54 AM MST up reply actions
No Amare just wants to have a backup plan when his knees give out
He wants to be in a Spike Lee movies so he can get his acting career started.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
Yeah, Amare doesn't have game.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
S@N OF A F!&@ING B!7€H!!
I wake up to this news!!! Wtf! I dont want to lose amare. The man is a beast
by Migonads on Jul 2, 2010 11:54 AM MST via mobile reply actions
Calm down, we got another beast!
Hakeeeeem Warrrrick!!!
*Waiting for another burst out.
Slumdog Millionaire without the million.
side poll
David Lee or Al Jefferson?
"Da Suns’ Bench. Call them Victoria’s Secret — all kinds of wonderful support."
I'll take Leland.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Lee!
Have you seen Al Jefferson’s nose?
Timon: Hakuna Matata! What a wonderful phrase
Pumbaa: Hakuna Matata! Ain't no passing craze
Timon: It means no worries for the rest of your days
Timon: It's our problem-free philosophy
Both: Hakuna Matata!
The Lion King (1994)
his nose
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
by Suns R Us on Jul 2, 2010 12:08 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
His teeth!
Caveman status… someone get that guy some braces
by ajotanelsona on Jul 2, 2010 12:11 PM MST up reply actions
Hire Danny Aigne now!
He wants Lee to go the C’s, so hire him so he brings Lee here.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
I hope we keep Lou
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Well, Sarver gets what he wants.
He’s taking the heat for what happens in free agency and I say we give him heat if the Warrick deal messes up any possibility of a S&T. You’d think we should have a GM running the deals WITH Sarver, hmm?
In Nash I Trust!
Steve Nash DOES play defense, foo!
Poll
Do you think if the Suns won the championship, but Sarver offered Amare the same offer, Amare would stay?
A) Yes
B) No
C) Who gives a shit? Amare is a bitch.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
Gotta go with C.
The Suns made it to the Western Conference Finals and fell short. Part of it was Amare’s fault for being a no-show in the Lakers series. So whatever, it’s bad enough he tells us it’s a 50/50 chance he’ll come back even after making it to the WCF. Now he breaks up the Nash-Stoudemire P&R. He cuts you deep.
In Nash I Trust!
Steve Nash DOES play defense, foo!
+1
Lot of aggressive feelings coming out on this one. But frankly, I think its for the best in the long run. As good as Amare is, he isn’t totally unreplacable. He has to do what he thinks is best. PHX wasn’t working for him. I get it. But I would rather lose Amare than Nash. Make room folks, Durant or Melo coming to PHX 2011!!
Reading is good...
You're right.
Nash is probably the only one on this team that I feel is totally untouchable and would never want to see leave. I have faith we can get Melo next season if nothing good comes this summer.
In Nash I Trust!
Steve Nash DOES play defense, foo!
But.... I don't know if I can be like the Knicks and allow us to let a year pass by with an average season
just to try and scoop up a big name next offseason.
In Nash I Trust!
Steve Nash DOES play defense, foo!
Well, with only 2m to spend I don’t think Lou is coming back even though that would be enough to get him. We will probably use to sign our rookies. Hopefully one of them can turn out to be a good player. Hopefully, Lopez and Dragic can continue to improve. Hopefully Clark can get better. It’s the only way we could still make the playoffs and be competitive.
Hey, our team is still better than the Knicks even without Amar’e.
We can go over the cap to sign our 2nd rounders though can't we?
I know we’ll have a logjam but I really want us to keep Lou.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
second side poll
Wesley mathews or Ronnie Brewer
"Da Suns’ Bench. Call them Victoria’s Secret — all kinds of wonderful support."
Brewer
Matthews is very cool though
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
None
J-Rich is the MAN!!!!
Timon: Hakuna Matata! What a wonderful phrase
Pumbaa: Hakuna Matata! Ain't no passing craze
Timon: It means no worries for the rest of your days
Timon: It's our problem-free philosophy
Both: Hakuna Matata!
The Lion King (1994)
Amare new KNICKname
The New York ego machine
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
I wonder what they call the knick offense now…7 wins or less?
Looking forward to the Kevin Kolb era.
5-8-10...the day the Purdue Boilermakers basketball team won the 2011 NCAA Championship!!
by EREX21 on Jul 2, 2010 12:05 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
7 scum or less
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
Man I didn't even know what you were talking about at first.
Had to look back at the title to realize this is technically a Hakim Warrick thread.
RIP Seasons of Discontent
by Scott Howard on Jul 2, 2010 12:05 PM MST up reply actions
A Hakim Warrick thread turned into an Amare bashing thread.
Real nice.
In Nash I Trust!
Steve Nash DOES play defense, foo!
Does anyone else notice that Warrick's NBA profile pic looks like Josh freaking Howard?
In Nash I Trust!
Steve Nash DOES play defense, foo!
Josh Howard....
He’s a free agent
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
I'm really hoping Clark has a break out season
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
No, Lou and JRich become an All-stars :D
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
Did Nash die overnight or am I missing something here?
In Nash I Trust!
Steve Nash DOES play defense, foo!
Sadly yes.
RIP Seasons of Discontent
by Scott Howard on Jul 2, 2010 12:09 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Nash died on the inside
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
by Suns R Us on Jul 2, 2010 12:09 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
lmao rec'd
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
As far as our team getting better. We need Lopez and Dragic to get better because without Amar’e and Warrick in return we just got worse.
Robin will have to turn into Brook this summer and Dragic will have to get mentally tougher.
Slumdog Millionaire without the million.
Dragic is mentally tough.
See him get in Sasha Vujacic’s face? Almost won us game 6 of the Lakers series near the end =/
In Nash I Trust!
Steve Nash DOES play defense, foo!
CORO UPDATE
The Suns don’t have to renounce Stoudemire’s rights until the 8th. The Frye and Warrick deals are verbal agreements until then.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
Praise the lord, We might not have to sign Warrick and possibly do a S&T
In Nash I Trust!
Steve Nash DOES play defense, foo!
What is STAT going to do with his mom when he goes to NY?
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
Hookers and Cavasier
Looking forward to the Kevin Kolb era.
5-8-10...the day the Purdue Boilermakers basketball team won the 2011 NCAA Championship!!
Why are you guys so happy amar'e leaving. At least that is the vibe I'm getting.
I'm about 93% sure that Marion did Marijuana, the other 7% is probably weed.
I've never been good with goodbyes. I'll always be a STAT, regardless of his team.
I'm about 93% sure that Marion did Marijuana, the other 7% is probably weed.
I'm upset but I guess bashing is my way of coping.
And it’s working out very nicely =)
In Nash I Trust!
Steve Nash DOES play defense, foo!
I remember when JJ left; I'm considering my future options.
I'm about 93% sure that Marion did Marijuana, the other 7% is probably weed.
I didn't care about when JJ left
He wasn’t as good as he was now, and we still had Amare, a 31 yr old Nash, Marion, Barbosa, QRich.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
I was pissed, how could you not have been. If we kept JJ, I think we could have gotten a 'ship in 06 or 07
or maybe repeated as champions in 06 and 07
I'm about 93% sure that Marion did Marijuana, the other 7% is probably weed.
Amare was offered a fair deal and said no.
Suns got to the WCF, something STAT didn’t think would happen, and he still left. Stoudemire doesn’t care about how his teammates feel about him leaving, he just cares about the green, which Is why I hate him.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
Yep
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
You do realise that if we didn't have him we wouldn't have made it to the wcf, either.
I'm about 93% sure that Marion did Marijuana, the other 7% is probably weed.
and you realize that he lied.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
How so? B/c he said he'd take a smaller contract to sign with the suns? he never did say that, his agent did.
I'm about 93% sure that Marion did Marijuana, the other 7% is probably weed.
And where the hell did you think his agent picked that up?
Timon: Hakuna Matata! What a wonderful phrase
Pumbaa: Hakuna Matata! Ain't no passing craze
Timon: It means no worries for the rest of your days
Timon: It's our problem-free philosophy
Both: Hakuna Matata!
The Lion King (1994)
Agents are meant to be manipulative bastards, it isn't amar'e's fault
I'm about 93% sure that Marion did Marijuana, the other 7% is probably weed.
Anything that the agent will say or do has Amare's approval
Timon: Hakuna Matata! What a wonderful phrase
Pumbaa: Hakuna Matata! Ain't no passing craze
Timon: It means no worries for the rest of your days
Timon: It's our problem-free philosophy
Both: Hakuna Matata!
The Lion King (1994)
He said if the Suns win he would stay
he said he would like to stay in PHX for the rest of his career. He said he would take less money to sign with the suns.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
So there is still a chance, IMO. Sarv didn't trust stat enough so he jumped the gun and signed warrick. Now amar'e is pissed
and is taking the larger contract, imo
I'm about 93% sure that Marion did Marijuana, the other 7% is probably weed.
Again,
ESPN, Yahoo, Coro, Gambo said there is NO chance, I repeat NO chance, Amare will come back to PHX.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
I'm trying to be positive. I couldn't bear to watch stat in a jersey that has anything but PHX, or suns, or los suns, written on it.
I'm about 93% sure that Marion did Marijuana, the other 7% is probably weed.
Sarver I think trusted Amare enough to look past his defensive limitations and hand him a good amount of money
Timon: Hakuna Matata! What a wonderful phrase
Pumbaa: Hakuna Matata! Ain't no passing craze
Timon: It means no worries for the rest of your days
Timon: It's our problem-free philosophy
Both: Hakuna Matata!
The Lion King (1994)
thats total BS
Twitter: @dahking
Too late to change the stupid twitter name. Did it as a joke to my teenager, but now I'm hooked on the news-feed aspect of twitter.
He didn't want to commit so early; he wants to see his other offers. Sarver went to quickly by signing warrick, there still could have been a possibility
that amar’e re-signed, just on a later date, IMHO
I'm about 93% sure that Marion did Marijuana, the other 7% is probably weed.
Amare broke off contract talks with the Suns
and Warrick hasn’t been signed yet, it’s just a verbal agreement, nothing is official until the 8th.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
Where does it say he broke of contract negotiations? Nothing is official but I think he is pissed that both Frye and warrick got pffered b4 he did.
I'm about 93% sure that Marion did Marijuana, the other 7% is probably weed.
Minor free agents are getting contracts before the major ones.
ESPN, Yahoo, Coro, Gambo all said he broke off contract talks.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
ughh, Fuck it. I'll see what happnes, but ifrst I have to get the tears out of my eyes.
I'm about 93% sure that Marion did Marijuana, the other 7% is probably weed.
That's because Frye and Warrick didn't asked for max
and has no injuries
Timon: Hakuna Matata! What a wonderful phrase
Pumbaa: Hakuna Matata! Ain't no passing craze
Timon: It means no worries for the rest of your days
Timon: It's our problem-free philosophy
Both: Hakuna Matata!
The Lion King (1994)
Amare's offer was 5 years at 96 million with three years guaranteed.
The last 2 depend on the minutes he’s played in the first three years. He has to average at least 27 mpg in order to get the money guaranteed in the final 2 years of that contract.
NY is offering a 5 year 100 million dollar deal that’s all guaranteed. Guess which one he picked.
In Nash I Trust!
Steve Nash DOES play defense, foo!
It was 5 years 71 mil, w/ a 50 % kicker depending on his minutes I think he might be afraid about his injurioes
I'm about 93% sure that Marion did Marijuana, the other 7% is probably weed.
The 3 years were for 72 mill
The last 2 are based on the minutes but totaled up it would be around 96 mill. All according to this.
http://ktar.com/?sid=1311030&nid=112
In Nash I Trust!
Steve Nash DOES play defense, foo!
Everyone is afraid of his injuries.
But in reality, he still want to be paid full even when he is injured and not playing. In short, greediness.
Timon: Hakuna Matata! What a wonderful phrase
Pumbaa: Hakuna Matata! Ain't no passing craze
Timon: It means no worries for the rest of your days
Timon: It's our problem-free philosophy
Both: Hakuna Matata!
The Lion King (1994)
So, I think he might re-sign. I have my fingers crossed
I'm about 93% sure that Marion did Marijuana, the other 7% is probably weed.
Then so will my heart, soaring in the wind to wherever amar'e game lies.
I'm about 93% sure that Marion did Marijuana, the other 7% is probably weed.
lol, that is, isn't it. This is having a very harsh affect on me.
I'm about 93% sure that Marion did Marijuana, the other 7% is probably weed.
What the hell are you smoking Bkj?
Timon: Hakuna Matata! What a wonderful phrase
Pumbaa: Hakuna Matata! Ain't no passing craze
Timon: It means no worries for the rest of your days
Timon: It's our problem-free philosophy
Both: Hakuna Matata!
The Lion King (1994)
I wonder how many of us would turn down 27 million dollars.
I know I wouldn’t. And i don’t think I’m greedy.
It’s a business – both Sarver and Amar’e are making business decisions, and I think they are both making the right decisions. I’m not going to ruin a minute of my life hating anybody for that.
Auntie Em: Hate you, hate Kansas, taking the dog.
Dorothy
I would
Reputation and Dignity means a lot for me.
Timon: Hakuna Matata! What a wonderful phrase
Pumbaa: Hakuna Matata! Ain't no passing craze
Timon: It means no worries for the rest of your days
Timon: It's our problem-free philosophy
Both: Hakuna Matata!
The Lion King (1994)
27 mil would mean a lot to me - especially if it had nothing to do with my
reputation and dignity.If NY gets Amar’e, they must have assured him they had a plan in place to support him. They have a LOT of cap space. If he believes he can perform, his reputation will be intact. Phoenix couldn’t improve much over last year if they signed him. Where would his reputation be then?
Auntie Em: Hate you, hate Kansas, taking the dog.
Dorothy
Just watch. Grant Hill becomes furious with Amar’s departure and starts playing like he’s 25 averaging 30ppg, 10rpg and 7apg winning the MVP and leading the Suns all the way to win his first ring at age 38.
by Beavis 25 on Jul 2, 2010 12:25 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
YES!
HE will average 35 ppg, 15 rpg, 12 apg, all-star game, mvp, championship, first phoenix sun to the moon!
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
and Lou will be Dennis Rodman lock down d and 20 rpg.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
for the new york knicks
revenge is like a ghost. it takes over every man it touches. its thirst cannot be quenched until the last man has fallen.
CORO Thoughts
I’m no capologist but the Suns could first do a S&T that lowers the payroll & use cap space on Frye & Warrick signings.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
mmm that does make sense
phew
Twitter: @dahking
Too late to change the stupid twitter name. Did it as a joke to my teenager, but now I'm hooked on the news-feed aspect of twitter.
The Big Three are now
JRich, Nash, Hill
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
No, Hill will win MVP next year.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
And two of them'll be over thirty-six next season. This is BS
I'm about 93% sure that Marion did Marijuana, the other 7% is probably weed.
Nash and Hill do not age
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
Just like Chuck Norris
Timon: Hakuna Matata! What a wonderful phrase
Pumbaa: Hakuna Matata! Ain't no passing craze
Timon: It means no worries for the rest of your days
Timon: It's our problem-free philosophy
Both: Hakuna Matata!
The Lion King (1994)
Sure, but that still doesn't fill the hole left by Amar'e. Every year since he was drafted I looked forward to either #1/#32
to put the ball in the basket.This is going to suck. I’m pretty sure Sarv is also looking to dump jriches contract next season
I'm about 93% sure that Marion did Marijuana, the other 7% is probably weed.
Why not dump JRich's contract
If we do we can get talent as he is an expiring, and if we keep it and let him expiring we can afford a max contract.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
Because we like J-Rich and he plays well for us?
In Nash I Trust!
Steve Nash DOES play defense, foo!
After his performance in the playoff we just can’t let him go that easily. Let him stay for one more year.
Keep it because it's an expiring.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
I agree
J-Rich shooting has been excellent. If he plays like that again then the Suns better lock him up here for good.
Timon: Hakuna Matata! What a wonderful phrase
Pumbaa: Hakuna Matata! Ain't no passing craze
Timon: It means no worries for the rest of your days
Timon: It's our problem-free philosophy
Both: Hakuna Matata!
The Lion King (1994)
JRich has to enrage and score 30 ppg
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
If Kobe injures his knees
Then J-Rich will become an All-Star next season
Timon: Hakuna Matata! What a wonderful phrase
Pumbaa: Hakuna Matata! Ain't no passing craze
Timon: It means no worries for the rest of your days
Timon: It's our problem-free philosophy
Both: Hakuna Matata!
The Lion King (1994)
Sarver offered a perfect contract to Amare
and Amare declined. Amare is the bad guy here. Sarver played it perfectly.
Amare plays 65 games a year for 4 yrs = max contract all 5 yrs
Amare misses a lot of games (more than 17 a year) = less guaranteed money on the highest paid years. Imagine how much better off Houston would have been with that contract on McGrady. Or Knicks with that on Curry.
Twitter: @dahking
Too late to change the stupid twitter name. Did it as a joke to my teenager, but now I'm hooked on the news-feed aspect of twitter.
At least Houston got insurance on TMac injuries.
Amar’e is a true total loss if he goes down.
It could
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
Possibly
But we’d have to dump a contract (like LB) to free up more cap space
or
Back out of one of our verbal commitments w/ Frye or Warrick
No, to sign warrick we had to renounce stat's rights; makes it impossible to do a sign and trade.
I'm about 93% sure that Marion did Marijuana, the other 7% is probably weed.
actually Coro cleared that up
Suns still could do the SnT before actually inking Frye and Warrick
Twitter: @dahking
Too late to change the stupid twitter name. Did it as a joke to my teenager, but now I'm hooked on the news-feed aspect of twitter.
Coro cleared it up.
You’re a little behind today lol. We can still do it as long as it’s for trade exceptions and draft picks.
In Nash I Trust!
Steve Nash DOES play defense, foo!
OH, what ever, I don't care anymore. None of this means anything to me anymore b/c we are probably going down the lottery chute
w/o stat
I'm about 93% sure that Marion did Marijuana, the other 7% is probably weed.
It's STAT's fault, he didn't have to be so greedy.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
I know, what the F for. He is going to have a miserable time in NY especially since no help is on the way.
I'm about 93% sure that Marion did Marijuana, the other 7% is probably weed.
He went to NY for money.
Fuck him
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
Fuck NY too. Fuck all the teams w/extra cap space. Bastards.
I'm about 93% sure that Marion did Marijuana, the other 7% is probably weed.
Thats the spirit!!!
Timon: Hakuna Matata! What a wonderful phrase
Pumbaa: Hakuna Matata! Ain't no passing craze
Timon: It means no worries for the rest of your days
Timon: It's our problem-free philosophy
Both: Hakuna Matata!
The Lion King (1994)
How many games does amar'e play before he realises that NY isn't the team for him?
I say 25 and then Mikey D yells at him for not playing so amar’e goes and drops a weight on his knee thus casuing him to get microsurgery and he has to sit out the next years of his career while earl clark develops into the next stoudemire and kobe bryant breaks his index finger giving the suns a chance to compete in the nba finals next season
I'm about 93% sure that Marion did Marijuana, the other 7% is probably weed.
It will affect him one way or other to see
that the Suns can have success without him for the 2nd time. It will eat him from the inside. I doubt money can do anything to suppress feelings.
Timon: Hakuna Matata! What a wonderful phrase
Pumbaa: Hakuna Matata! Ain't no passing craze
Timon: It means no worries for the rest of your days
Timon: It's our problem-free philosophy
Both: Hakuna Matata!
The Lion King (1994)
Don't want Melo.
He’s talented, sure, but he’s a ball hog.
Auntie Em: Hate you, hate Kansas, taking the dog.
Dorothy
Don't want Melo too
I don’t like player who disrespects their coaches about playing time.
Timon: Hakuna Matata! What a wonderful phrase
Pumbaa: Hakuna Matata! Ain't no passing craze
Timon: It means no worries for the rest of your days
Timon: It's our problem-free philosophy
Both: Hakuna Matata!
The Lion King (1994)
are we going to look into a potential david lee signing?
I'm about 93% sure that Marion did Marijuana, the other 7% is probably weed.
No
Why? Amare agreed (verbally) on a 5 year 20 mil with the Knicks
Timon: Hakuna Matata! What a wonderful phrase
Pumbaa: Hakuna Matata! Ain't no passing craze
Timon: It means no worries for the rest of your days
Timon: It's our problem-free philosophy
Both: Hakuna Matata!
The Lion King (1994)
That is just great news to hear. I'll probably drink myself to sleep until this damned summer is over.
I'm about 93% sure that Marion did Marijuana, the other 7% is probably weed.
+1
except i dont drink so i’ll probably end up dropping acid this whole summer….. s.o.b
+2
"The art of war is simple enough. Find out where your enemy is. Get at him as soon as you can and slap the crap out of him before he figures out you are there...."
- me into a mental stupor after forgetting the rest of Ulysses S. Grant's speech....
We're going to be like the Magic
Get rid of our star (Tmac) amare, then have a lottery pick and pick someone great (dhoward).
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
Then we need to tank it next season
Timon: Hakuna Matata! What a wonderful phrase
Pumbaa: Hakuna Matata! Ain't no passing craze
Timon: It means no worries for the rest of your days
Timon: It's our problem-free philosophy
Both: Hakuna Matata!
The Lion King (1994)
We have clark already, what position would we need to fill up? when we already have frye and warrick, and clark booked?
I'm about 93% sure that Marion did Marijuana, the other 7% is probably weed.
We need to have another 7 footer like Robin
Timon: Hakuna Matata! What a wonderful phrase
Pumbaa: Hakuna Matata! Ain't no passing craze
Timon: It means no worries for the rest of your days
Timon: It's our problem-free philosophy
Both: Hakuna Matata!
The Lion King (1994)
We'd have to tank next season, thus wasting a whole year of nash and grant hill's careers. I doubt nash wis a 'ship b4 he retires.
I'm about 93% sure that Marion did Marijuana, the other 7% is probably weed.
Lee, Dirk is getting older.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
Dirk is a superstar though. I think he fits that description more than Amar’e. The Suns are better than the Mavs too.
You mean were
the Suns "were’ better than the mavs. D=
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
Still are, I think.
If Terry’s one of their main options, it’s kinda sad.
In Nash I Trust!
Steve Nash DOES play defense, foo!
Dirk easily
HOFer
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
why does amar'e want to leave us
this upsets me
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$4
I'm about 93% sure that Marion did Marijuana, the other 7% is probably weed.
So we basically did 48 million for Warrick/Frye vs 100 million for Amare
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Not worth it IMO, but hey, what are you guna do?
I'm about 93% sure that Marion did Marijuana, the other 7% is probably weed.
by Bkj on Jul 2, 2010 1:04 PM MST up reply actions
Oh amar'e I how I rember your rookie season. You're leaving without much of a reason. Your dunks always make me happy. But with Ny you'll probably be crappy.
You are an athletic beast but you are also greedy just to say the least. You’ll be missed b/c you were our lottery pick, but you have only yourself to trick!
I'm about 93% sure that Marion did Marijuana, the other 7% is probably weed.
lol, I didn't know I had that in me.
I'm about 93% sure that Marion did Marijuana, the other 7% is probably weed.
by Bkj on Jul 2, 2010 1:06 PM MST up reply actions
Should I make that my extendedly long sig line?
I'm about 93% sure that Marion did Marijuana, the other 7% is probably weed.
by Bkj on Jul 2, 2010 1:07 PM MST up reply actions
third mini poll
would you trade Barbosa for Gortat (if Orlando lose Reddick to FA) i think Otis smith might bite on it ?
"Da Suns’ Bench. Call them Victoria’s Secret — all kinds of wonderful support."
Ooooooh that's tough
Especially now that we need offense and we have some bangers.
Ask me on a different day and I’ll give you a different answer. That’s a very even trade for both I think.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
I'll hate Ny if they take amar'e away from me; one can only hope that all else fails for stat and he comes crawling back to PHX
That is unlikely though
I'm about 93% sure that Marion did Marijuana, the other 7% is probably weed.
Can the suns revoke their offered contract to warrick if amar'e wants to come back?
I'm about 93% sure that Marion did Marijuana, the other 7% is probably weed.
by Bkj on Jul 2, 2010 1:11 PM MST up reply actions
They could sign him and pay the luxury tax.
Sarver paid 4 mil in LT last year.
Auntie Em: Hate you, hate Kansas, taking the dog.
Dorothy
just reading stuff and came across this link
Damm at how many people it takes to run a franchise
http://bleacherreport.com/tb/a4MqY
"Da Suns’ Bench. Call them Victoria’s Secret — all kinds of wonderful support."
All I can say I am so bummed right now...
Can Hakim dunk on folks like STAT…?
"The art of war is simple enough. Find out where your enemy is. Get at him as soon as you can and slap the crap out of him before he figures out you are there...."
- me into a mental stupor after forgetting the rest of Ulysses S. Grant's speech....
yeah, but he won't have the swag or the ego to make it enjoyable
I'm about 93% sure that Marion did Marijuana, the other 7% is probably weed.
by Bkj on Jul 2, 2010 3:06 PM MST up reply actions
fo sho
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Hollinger's take
Everyone is taking shots at Suns owner Robert Sarver, and many of the criticisms are merited. That said, I’ve found his strategy through the first days of free agency to be eminently reasonable.
That’s the problem. If reports are correct, Sarver made a reasonable offer to Amare Stoudemire — three years guaranteed for the max, with a fourth and fifth year that would become guaranteed if he hit certain playing time thresholds. Given that his knees and eye are such a concern, this was a wise strategy in a normal market.
In this year’s abnormal market, however, it’s a losing one — Stoudemire is all but certain to get a richer deal from one of the other teams that are flush with cash, leaving Phoenix minus one of its two central stars.
The Suns made a decent recovery with a four-year, $18 million deal for forward Hakim Warrick. Warrick is an abysmal defensive player, but offensively he may thrive in Phoenix as a “Stoudemire-lite.” He does two things really well: He can hit jumpers from the elbow, and he can dive down the lane on a pick-and-roll and throw down dunks. Does that description sound like anybody else?
I like Warrick a lot better as a backup than a starter, but the Suns are paying him backup money so it’s not a major risk. He has averaged nearly one point every two minutes over the past four seasons and may improve on that rate with the Suns. He will be 28 next season and there’s some risk at the end of the contract, but given the dollars it’s a manageable gamble.
I’d still like to see the Suns add another frontcourt player — especially with Louis Amundson as a free agent — and there’s a good chance they’ll do so since they still have some room left under the cap after signing Warrick. They aren’t as good without Stoudemire, but they’ve found a palatable short-term fallback that should enable them to remain a playoff team.
With considerable cap flexibility going forward, they should still be in position to get back in the hunt with the right move or two … provided Sarver doesn’t get in the way with further belt-tightening.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
"another frontcourt player"
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Do we have bird rights on Lou?
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
We should use the early bird exception on Lou then!
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Yes we should.
But I don’t think we willl, even though he’s good.
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