Revenge Of The Hair: How About Varejao To Suns?
by Alex Laugan on Jul 23, 2010 4:56 PM MDT
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The Suns have a known PF/C problem. They need someone who can play defense and guard mobile bigs out to the 3-pt line. Lopez and Frye (don't laugh, it's true) can guard the paint enough to get by. As far as our other PFs... Warrick does not have a defensive reputation. Neither does Turkoglu (though he doesn't hurt a defense either). And Clark and Lawal are not seasoned enough to play big minutes this year.
You know I've been drooling over Josh Smith lately.
But today I had another idea. Cheaper, less talented, but easier to acquire: Cleveland's Anderson Varejao
He's a 6'11" mobile big man known for his ability to play defense, though he has trouble scoring. Kind of a more-mobile version of Lopez with a lower offensive ceiling. However, his defense makes up for it.
Cleveland, on the other hand, has not signed a single free agent, and may - with the talent they have - want to shoot for a high lottery pick instead. Varejao's defense and effort would hinder that goal more than help. With Andy, Cavs likely get a pick in the 8-13 range. Without Andy, the Cavs can dump away and...the sky's the limit. And next year's draft is top heavy: there's a guy projected #1 who reminds many of a LeBron type (Harrison Barnes).
And here's the big kicker, for Suns fans: salary-wise, we can get him for the remaining part of the Amare trade exception. Would Cleveland take the salary savings and a future #1?
HOWEVER, that would give the Suns 11 - eleven! - players who deserve 20+ minutes a night. Too deep, I believe, not to give away someone later and that always leaves a bad taste in our mouths.
So it might be better to swing JRich at them. JRich with Earl Clark. We would have to take back another 6-7 mil in salaries to make it work. One could be Delonte West (who could be waived for all but 500K of his 4mil expiring deal), the other could be Boobie Gibson. Little Boobie can hit 3s and not much else, but we may need to take him back to swing JRich over that way. But even with this trade, Suns still have 11 players in the rotation. They would STILL have the Amare exception though, in case of injury, and plenty of room under the lux tax to pick someone up later (ie. Gortat from Orlando, if Lopez goes down; or a SG if we need depth there due to injury).
Either way, the Suns would net an elite defender and rebounder (higher rebound rate than ANYONE currently on the Suns) who is 6'11" and moves well.
And finally: the Suns would have the best hair in the NBA, between Lopez, Chill and Varejao.
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Absolutely
Didn’t know we could afford him without giving up an asset.
Varejao for the TPE and a draft pick would be a steal, if for nothing more than another future trade piece.
I’d take him, do our best with the issue of play time, and see what our assets make available at the trade deadline.
And again, new Suns logo:
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by itkonlyyou199 on Jul 26, 2010 7:03 AM MDT up reply actions
Greatest. Logo. Ever.
Enjoy your rec.
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it's a hair pick?
Oh. I can see it looks like a hair pick, but I thought you meant it to be a broom (broom = sweep).
Hey don't forget Steve Nash's hair!!!
Steve Nash can only give 100 percent. The other 10 percent he donates to his families.
I believe in the destiny of the Suns. We can prevail.
One problem, the Cavs don’t need salary cap relief plus they have a trade exemption of their own. So I’m pretty sure the Cavs would take the best talent they can get and draft picks. I know the Cavs were interested in Earl Clark last year in the draft. So probably Earl Clark would need to be included, the Cavs need a center so I’m sure they would want Robin Lopez and they could definitely use a PG that can distribute so probably Goran Dragic would do. If that is too much for Varejao, the Cavs could include Mo Williams but the Cavs would have to get a 1st rounder in return or at least a couple 2nd rounders.
To. Much. Hair.
No.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
Is that a toast?
Auntie Em: Hate you, hate Kansas, taking the dog.
Dorothy
by haremoor on Jul 23, 2010 5:12 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Could we sign and trade Lou, and give them Taylor Griffin, too?
Auntie Em: Hate you, hate Kansas, taking the dog.
Dorothy
you can't combine the TPE with a real player
only draft picks.
And Lou isn’t getting 6 mil a year.
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Lou can't shoot
Mike D never would have brought him to Phoenix in the first place
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yes, but what I was getting at was...
…that the Knicks are capable of much more stupid deals than giving LA $6M. A few years ago, they might have given a nine-figure contract to a man with one leg.
lol there's more votes to get a life than there are comments
explaining why my life is so bad… I guess this post is self-explanatory… haha
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But if we trade JRich, we have no SG except JChill
If we are going to make a trade we need to unload 1 or maybe 2 of our forwards because we are overloaded there. In my opinion, we should have just gone for Varejao instead of Turk.
Does anybody know what the sentiment is in Cleveland right now? Would they be willing to let go of another fan favorite?
Must start LB! Oh wait...
i lurked on the SB nation site
and they’re ready to throw in the towel on this season for a high draft pick next year. Several mentioned letting Varejao go for a first rounder. Others wanted equal talent back.
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you know, fan fave Eddie House is waiting for an offer
and practiced with the Suns last summer before training camp. He’s always wanted to come back, after his ring-getting stint in Boston was over.
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How much do you think it would take to sign him?
Auntie Em: Hate you, hate Kansas, taking the dog.
Dorothy
Sorry to say this for the 1000th time, but....
Isn’t Scottie Reynolds a younger version of House? I’d rather give that end of the bench spot to a younger guy who might have a higher ceiling, and definitely has more of a future.
by East Bay Ray on Jul 23, 2010 5:40 PM MDT up reply actions
Well, House is a proven NBA player, with a 39%+ career 3 point average.
We know he thrives in this system.
Reynolds has promise, but he’s an unknown quantity. There are arguments on both sides. We definitely need a backup guard.
Auntie Em: Hate you, hate Kansas, taking the dog.
Dorothy
plus he's really great in the middle of the pregame huddle
and a wonderful influence on the bench
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I'm just intrigued by Reynolds
He carried an otherwise kinda poor Villanova team on his back, made 1st team All-American, and my “guy watching from the couch” view tells me he’s going to make a lot of teams regret drafting whatever stiff they did instead of him in the second round of this previous draft. Would hate to let him slip away early in his career for a guy who is getting close to the end of the line. I know House’s game is great with us, and he’s a good locker room guy, but he’s 32.
by East Bay Ray on Jul 23, 2010 6:18 PM MDT up reply actions
Grant Hill can start at SG for us. We'll then have Turk start at the 3.
Assuming we trade J-Rich, that’s how we could play it.
In Nash I Trust!
Steve Nash DOES play defense, foo!
Agreed. We thinkin about long term? Scottie will come up big in the NBA, thats wat im feeling
and thats coming from a gtown kid who hates nova
Must start LB! Oh wait...
Turk at SG,
Grant at SF….Turk is a little quicker and a slightly better ball handler. Also Turk is a better 3 point shooter than Grant. Even though I have always liked Eddie House since his days at ASU, I really thought that Reynolds is actually a little better version with much more incentive to succeed. He completely out played Dowdell and truly ran the offense like a point guard. I kept envisioning him with some of the true NBA level talent on the floor with him, and I saw 6 assists and 8-10 pts. a game in limited mins. That would be better than some starting point guards in the league (assist wise).
which SF would you give up?
Hill? No.
Duds? No. Huge winner.
Chill? No – just got him.
Turk? no – just got him.
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Clark.
Just drafted Lawal so he should at least have a chance too. I think that leaves Earl as the odd man out, or at least the most expendable of the lot.
They're trying to take my tortillas!
Clark also has potential at the PF position - he's cheap, and we can afford to keep him around another year
and develop him more slowly.
Auntie Em: Hate you, hate Kansas, taking the dog.
Dorothy
I would rather they didn't trade anybody, honestly...
But if it had to be somebody I would give up Clark.
They're trying to take my tortillas!
Clark is too weak
physically to play PF, and seems to be a bit of a head case. Maybe the truth of the matter is that he has been able to get by on talent so far, therefore he has never truly developed the heart and desire that is required to achieve his true potential. Lawal is going to be a steal!! I see him developing fairly quickly. One last point….SF is one of the easiest positions to find good talent at.
I’m from Cleveland, pretty much everybody hates Lebron not because he left us for more they way he did to us. The Cavs are in rebuilding mode so pretty much every trade the Cavs make will to gain assets and draft picks. The Cavs will most likely be a lottery team probably one of the top 10 worst records in the NBA.
Hell NO to Varejao
What we need is a true center and particularly a banger if we can get one. Gortat would be a good example but not at the cost of losing both J-Rich and Clark.
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by Spit_Fire on Jul 23, 2010 5:24 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
We're too loaded
With talented players that are going to eat up all of the minutes. Honestly, I’d like to get Dwayne Jones back to keep around as the third center. He intrigues me the most, especially considering the roster spots we NEED to fill: backup center and point guard.
We have a backup center, and two point guards.
Frye, Nash and Dragic.
We could squeeze Varejao in. Warrick, Turk, Hill, Dudley, Richardson, and Childress each dropping 3 minutes on average would get Varejao 18 minutes a game. The exact numbers would be a little less fairly distributed, but it’s possible.
I'll be completely honest, I think 'JO sucks. He is an offensive liability, and honestlly, the Too much of a good think meem comes into play here;
in this case it is depth. We need clark to get more minutes, and his situation is the quintissential (I know I spelled that wrong) catch 22 model, in that he needs time to play to improve but playing time is limited with all the depth.
For every sunset, there will always be a sunrise.
you did better on quintessential than on whatever 'meem' is
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I feel bad for laughing at that.
Yet I can’t help it.
"I make my case against a stack full of comics. Here comes the line.... I'm loaded with rocket fuel!!"
- Mike Watt, The Minutemen
I really like Anderson - high percentage shooter, great rebounder, nearly a steal and block per game
all in about 28.5 minutes. With our spacing, he should get some open shots and be able to score more. He would be like Lou on steroids.
Auntie Em: Hate you, hate Kansas, taking the dog.
Dorothy
right. He's a bigger, more talented Lou
another thing is that he can slide to Center (if necessary, to fill in for injury)
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Well, c'mon, Alex, make it happen!
Get House while you’re at it.
Auntie Em: Hate you, hate Kansas, taking the dog.
Dorothy
With both Varejao and House
It really depends where you see this team is. If we are ready now to make a championship run, then picking up these two veterans makes sense. If not and, sorry, not to go Scott Howard on you, but I’m really skeptical that we are serious championship contenders this season, then these two veterans are taking roster spots and cap space that can be used on younger developmental guys.
by East Bay Ray on Jul 23, 2010 6:30 PM MDT up reply actions
I agree.
I’d rather hold on to draft picks and young guys than use them to bring in vets.
The Suns are rebuilding their core without subjecting us to years of sucktitude. Hedging their bets on veteran players may force a rebuild a couple years down the road.
"I make my case against a stack full of comics. Here comes the line.... I'm loaded with rocket fuel!!"
- Mike Watt, The Minutemen
But we also see them as trade assets who should thrive here, increasing their value.
Our target would be a team that could give away a really good player or a really good pick in return for some of these guys that could help them this season. By the same token, Reynolds could also be a really good trade chip.
Auntie Em: Hate you, hate Kansas, taking the dog.
Dorothy
they would be trade assets
but I also think that Varejao (with warrick turk and chill) could help us contend more than last season
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Every successful team
needs a scraper like what Lou did. Varejo could fill that roll nicely with a little more size thrown in.
At this point...
The only player I would accept trading is Earl Clark. I like Earl, I think he can be good once he gets himself a shot, but he seems to be progressing a little slower than we would like. Bringing in Hedo/J-Chill didn’t help his cause either. It wouldn’t be fair to Warrick to sign him then trade him before he’s even had a chance, same with Turk/Chill/Lawal. They need Hill and Dudley, so trading them shouldn’t be an option.
I don’t believe trading Richardson for yet another forward would help that much. If anything, it would make them thin at the 2 and even fatter at the 3/4. The obesity at forward would still be a problem. I know some of you think Childress is good enough to start that 2 slot, but have we suddenly forgotten how Rich was the Suns’ best player this last postseason? And who is gonna play behind Childress (put your hands down Dowdell/Scottie Reynolds fans)? Dragic needs to play the 1 and should only play 2 alongside Nash. Richardson is proven and with Amar’e gone, somebody has to shoulder most of that offensive load. He is the only pure scorer on the team as of now.
They're trying to take my tortillas!
I agree
We already have a large amount of forwards, and J-rich is in my opinion better than some people give him credit for.. Next year when hill retires most likely we can put Turk into the 3 spot and have a PF space. Even if we cant find anyone next year for the vacancy, Id bet Lawal (and maybe clark) could fill in the position easily.
Phx Suns '10-'11 = Hair, The Musical ???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dyl0j3WU6Y
Must start LB! Oh wait...
A hairy question for all those who actually play basketball:
Is it harder to play against a big man with big hair, especially when he is defending you? I would imagine that compared to bald guys or short haired guys, having a big FRO in between you and the basket would be distracting, or maybe even obstruct your view? Any truth to this at all? Please say yes…
Must start LB! Oh wait...
I don't know - I'm bald.
When I play racquetball, though, I sweat so much that I know I’m disgusting to run into, so maybe we should make sure to get some big, sweaty, hairy guys to bang in there.
Auntie Em: Hate you, hate Kansas, taking the dog.
Dorothy
i bet these are the kinds of discussions that our FO has when talkin about defense
Must start LB! Oh wait...
Paul Shirley
once wrote about playing in Greece and said the stank was unbearable. There was a guy on a team whose entire contribution was stank – no one would come close to him because he smelled so bad. This gave him a lot of open jumpers on offense as well as effective defense.
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Maybe that's why Channing is always open.
He looks clean, but he might funk himself up before games. Maybe he leaves some gouda in his socks the night before.
"I make my case against a stack full of comics. Here comes the line.... I'm loaded with rocket fuel!!"
- Mike Watt, The Minutemen
I voted no deal.
In my O-pinion, Varejao is the kind of player you draft, not trade for.
He’s already peaked as a role player and spot-starter, so I wouldn’t give a 1st-rounder for him.
"I make my case against a stack full of comics. Here comes the line.... I'm loaded with rocket fuel!!"
- Mike Watt, The Minutemen
Offensively-challenged frontcourt
would only be a slight understatement.
by Jimbob13 on Jul 23, 2010 6:20 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
i like it,
then do you think we’d be able to trade him and lou (maybe a couple picks) to ATL for Smith? sounds way better than having to give up Rich.
by Jiffy_Mac'_Doogal. on Jul 23, 2010 6:26 PM MDT reply actions
Forget this trade!
I would rather re-sign Lou and waive Taylor Griffin than trade for a flopper like Varejao! Griffin is useless! Suns do not need him!
Pedro Perez-Ochoa
by voteforPedro1990 on Jul 23, 2010 7:12 PM MDT reply actions
Griffin is not necessarily useless.
With the sheer number of players who are going to need quality minutes, I’d argue we need at least another guy like Taylor Griffin on the roster – someone who isn’t going to demand more minutes or threaten another player’s spot on the team, who can keep it loose in the locker room for the rest of the guys and be a guy the rest of the players cheer on when he does get the occasional minute or two of action.
Every team needs a 12th or 13th man.
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"You know, what do we have to lose? Why not root for us?...For us, it's just going out there and having fun and balling." - Channing Frye
Dwayne Collins would be a great replacement for that scrub Griffin!
He actually has some talent, even though he is injured, and is probably a better cheerleader than Griffin is. Both he and Scottie Reynolds deserve to be on our roster more than Griffin does!!
Pedro Perez-Ochoa
by voteforPedro1990 on Jul 23, 2010 7:23 PM MDT up reply actions
we could have an open thread on why Taylor Griffin enrages everyone....
Taylor Griffin: “Well, would it be all right with you if I just lay down in the street and die?”
BSOS fans: “Yes, that would be acceptable.”
P.S. I don’t mean to suggest anyone really wants that.
Well, Griffin is useless
If you want a 12th man who will sit on the bench and stand up and clap when the guys on the floor make a play, we can easily find a replacement for Griffin there. Hell, I’ll do it! Of course, I’m not as buff, but how buff do you need to be to do that?
by East Bay Ray on Jul 23, 2010 10:57 PM MDT up reply actions
look at the bright side
LA pays like 15 mil per year for guys to do the same thing…least he’s cheap
"I’ve been in the league 14 years and I don’t think I’ve been called for a carry yet. It’s news to me," "I’ve never heard anyone complain about me carrying the ball. The best coach in the league Gregg Popovich didn’t have a problem with it last week."
But we can fill that spot with someone who might grow into a real player
by East Bay Ray on Jul 23, 2010 11:05 PM MDT up reply actions
lets trade him for vujacic
"I’ve been in the league 14 years and I don’t think I’ve been called for a carry yet. It’s news to me," "I’ve never heard anyone complain about me carrying the ball. The best coach in the league Gregg Popovich didn’t have a problem with it last week."
Trade for Vujacic
Then DNP him for the whole season, but make him dress for every game. Make him watch practices.
Every time he’s caught not cheering hard enough for a Dragic basket, suspend him without pay for conduct detrimental to the team.
Tell him to carry Gani Lawal’s bags.
If he had to carry Lawal;s bags, he'd flop.
Auntie Em: Hate you, hate Kansas, taking the dog.
Dorothy
I was joking
but now I like…plus we give an RJefferson haircut….sweat.
"I’ve been in the league 14 years and I don’t think I’ve been called for a carry yet. It’s news to me," "I’ve never heard anyone complain about me carrying the ball. The best coach in the league Gregg Popovich didn’t have a problem with it last week."
Sweat? did you mean 'sweet'?
Because if you did, I agree. And a legal name change to ‘Vujabitch’.
Auntie Em: Hate you, hate Kansas, taking the dog.
Dorothy
sweet
good thing you can translate for me
"I’ve been in the league 14 years and I don’t think I’ve been called for a carry yet. It’s news to me," "I’ve never heard anyone complain about me carrying the ball. The best coach in the league Gregg Popovich didn’t have a problem with it last week."
Clark has a whole career ahead oof him, you would rather have scottie (Undrafted) and anderson varejo over a lottery pick with top 5 potential
For every sunset, there will always be a sunrise.
EDUCATE ME!!!!!!
don’t we have like 5,487 forwards now…and three guards? I understand his contract isn’t great But why do we want to trade a top scorer still in his prime for….ANOTHER FORWARD. I know apostrophe is gone, and i miss him too and varejo is a solid player, but…am I missing something?
"I’ve been in the league 14 years and I don’t think I’ve been called for a carry yet. It’s news to me," "I’ve never heard anyone complain about me carrying the ball. The best coach in the league Gregg Popovich didn’t have a problem with it last week."
by 2NASHTY on Jul 23, 2010 9:03 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
I stole it
I’m really not that clever that’s what the PtR guys call him, I thought is was funny and now that he’s not a sun I don’t feel bad using it…more importantly what do you think? it feels like a lot of forwards if we trade J-rich for another forward, aren’t we thin in the back court.
"I’ve been in the league 14 years and I don’t think I’ve been called for a carry yet. It’s news to me," "I’ve never heard anyone complain about me carrying the ball. The best coach in the league Gregg Popovich didn’t have a problem with it last week."
Education incoming
We have one Power Forward, Hakim Warrick. Warrick makes a good backup PF. We could use a starting PF.
Turkoglu is a Small Forward. Playing PF would put him out of position, but he can (and will if we have no other options). This is known as a “cornerman”.
Grant Hill and Jared Dudley are SF as well, but they can both also play SG. This is known as a “swingman”.
Robin Lopez and Channing Frye are Centers.
Jason Richardson and Josh Childress are Shooting Guards.
Steve Nash and Goran Dragic are Point Guards.
That is our 10 player rotation. One starter, one backup for every position. (with Hedo at the 4).
If we get another starting 4 in a J-Rich trade, then Hedo plays the 3, and either Hill or Dudley “swing” to the 2. The argument is that Hill or Dudley playing slightly out of position at the 2 is better than Hedo playing more out of position at the 4.
Gani Lawal and Earl Clark are projects, and will not see actual play time this year. The position they play is irrelevant to our roster this year. They will practice and pick up throw away minutes at the end of games, or during a blowout.
by waxmonkey on Jul 23, 2010 10:06 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
ya but
duds and hill did excellent at the three I don’t see duds being quik enough to cover better 2’s. at some point clark needs min’s to develope trading JRich leaves two 1’s and no other gaurds. I agree Hill can “cover” the 2 but this is not optimal. I love childress at 2 or 3 (and you know this waxmonkey…peach tree hoops). but i still feel like we have one of the better SG and I don’t see giving up JRich for sponge bob, as a good idea…even though i think sponge bob is solid. BTW I didn’t think about chill playing the 2, thanks for the reminder
"I’ve been in the league 14 years and I don’t think I’ve been called for a carry yet. It’s news to me," "I’ve never heard anyone complain about me carrying the ball. The best coach in the league Gregg Popovich didn’t have a problem with it last week."
If Dudley can watch Kobe
I’m fine with him covering any 2 in the L.
by hcblankscreen on Jul 23, 2010 10:23 PM MDT up reply actions
wow that was written perfectly
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by Alex Laugan on Jul 23, 2010 10:35 PM MDT up reply actions
"he who Is bored by LBJ"
you pose many thought provoking questitions…this annoys me as I don’t like thinking. but what is your opinion of JRich in the rankings of SG’s?…am i wrong in thinking he’s one of the best in the league…no douubt consistancy could be better but if we rank PF’s and SG’s who is higher in thier respective cat…side show or miss’a’dunk. my money is on miss’a’dunk…are my homer goggles on too high?
"I’ve been in the league 14 years and I don’t think I’ve been called for a carry yet. It’s news to me," "I’ve never heard anyone complain about me carrying the ball. The best coach in the league Gregg Popovich didn’t have a problem with it last week."
well
in terms of basic box-score numbers: Richardson >> Varejao
in terms of excitement and selling tix: Richardson >> Varejao
in terms of winning basketball games: I think they are about equal. Varejao prevents enough scoring to offset the fewer points he puts in the basket.
So, since the Suns “need” font-line defense, have lots of wing men and already set records on offense, then I think it might be a good trade. I also think it would be a good trade for Cleveland, who needs more scoring.
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except I'm also
perfectly fine with staying pat till the trade deadline.
but if the Suns ARE a top seed, then more front-line defense will be needed over wing scoring.
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In the future
please feel free to spoon feed me answers…BSoTS is like my fox news, I don’t get on it to form an opinion i come here to be told what I think.
"I’ve been in the league 14 years and I don’t think I’ve been called for a carry yet. It’s news to me," "I’ve never heard anyone complain about me carrying the ball. The best coach in the league Gregg Popovich didn’t have a problem with it last week."
If that's the case, you need to stop spending so much time at SSR and PtR.
Not that anyone at a Lakers site would give you false information…
Auntie Em: Hate you, hate Kansas, taking the dog.
Dorothy
I come here and get my learn on
then go over there and pretend I know what I’m talking about. it makes me feel cool
"I’ve been in the league 14 years and I don’t think I’ve been called for a carry yet. It’s news to me," "I’ve never heard anyone complain about me carrying the ball. The best coach in the league Gregg Popovich didn’t have a problem with it last week."
Agreed, except that...
Childress is more of a swingman than Dudley is. Childress at SF > Dudley at SG. Childress played a lot of SF with Atlanta.
by East Bay Ray on Jul 23, 2010 11:03 PM MDT up reply actions
BTW
I think chill is going to have a ridicuelesly good season
"I’ve been in the league 14 years and I don’t think I’ve been called for a carry yet. It’s news to me," "I’ve never heard anyone complain about me carrying the ball. The best coach in the league Gregg Popovich didn’t have a problem with it last week."
Love the Childress pickup
It’s a little bit under the radar, but he’s a perfect match for our team. Having said that, I’m going to wait and see how his adjustment back to NBA ball will be. In the long run, he’ll be great for us, but it might take some time for him to get back to the physical brand of ball played in the NBA.
by East Bay Ray on Jul 23, 2010 11:11 PM MDT up reply actions
I would not be surprised
if he gets 6th man of the year votes. He will play really well, AND the media will fawn over him like a newborn child because everyone forgets him from a couple yrs ago. He was a really, really good player in a tiny (in terms of national coverage) market.
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I don't really agree with you
but we won’t know for sure till next season.
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West
And why doesn’t anyone like Delonte West? I know he’s mentally ill, but what if he takes his medication? I thought he was a good defender.
Both West and Varejao are great
They don’t get the credit they deserve because they played with LeBron. People dump on them because they don’t like Varejao’s game and think West is a head case, but they’re both players I would love to see on the Suns.
I can’t believe people wouldn’t trade away a 1st rounder and the rest of the TPE for Varejao, that’s nuts man. He’s basically a more talented, less athletic Lou that we’d (hypothetically) get for a nothing.
by hcblankscreen on Jul 23, 2010 10:07 PM MDT up reply actions
dont really agree on west
and I wouldn’t say side show is “great” but he would fit as a mobile big man and be a good adition, i only question if its worth one of the better SG in the league who performed paticulairly well in the playoffs.
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Only 5% want to trade JRich for Varajao - that's still too high.
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Soooo…I’m not THAT far off on this,,,to put it in the speak of a fan of my caliber…
“miss’a’dunk good …NO?”
"I’ve been in the league 14 years and I don’t think I’ve been called for a carry yet. It’s news to me," "I’ve never heard anyone complain about me carrying the ball. The best coach in the league Gregg Popovich didn’t have a problem with it last week."
well
mentally ill is a good start; I just never thought he was that good
"I’ve been in the league 14 years and I don’t think I’ve been called for a carry yet. It’s news to me," "I’ve never heard anyone complain about me carrying the ball. The best coach in the league Gregg Popovich didn’t have a problem with it last week."
this would be a good trade
Defence is what we need. Although I am only siting one game, I remember the floppy Varejao as being quite dominant against us in the home game just before Christmas last year (before the Lopez starter transition). I was at that game and thought the Cavs were looking like a championship team. A couple days later they annihilated the Lake show in the “Christmas Day Classic”.
However, nobody is talking about Warrick right now, which is good. I think he will be a more of a surprise than people think.
Not if we have to give up JRich.
It’s definitely not worth it if we have to give up JRich. If we could somehow acquire Varejao for the remaining TPE and a pick, however, I think it’d definitely be worth it.
I’m of the opinion that Varejao is exactly what this team needs right now – an energetic, defensive minded, bigger version of Lou with the same amount of hustle.
PG – Nash, Dragic
SG – JRich, Childress, Dudley
SF – Turk, Hill, Dudley
PF – Varejao, Warick
C – Lopez, Frye
That seems like an awfully good team. I do, however, hate that this would likely cut into Hill and Dudley’s minutes a lot… But I guess that’s inevitable with a roster 11 deep…
this is where
you’d be okay in case of injury, but worried if everyone stays healthy all season. And with the suns training staff, the latter is most likely the case.
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I can guarantee you the Cavs would not be interested in J-Rich so you don’t have to worry about trading him. I like J-Rich but not a rebuilding team.
If the Cavs are in rebuilding mode like you suggested earlier, then a large expiring contract is always valuable.
Trading away talent will also help you to torpedo the team and move into the lottery higher and faster.
Though it’s kind of unethical.
Large expiring contract are valuable if you assured an all-star player will come to your town to play, if not then it is just extra money for what to overpay a role player. Like I said the Cavs need young talent and draft picks, it does not really matter if they are low first round picks or second round picks. I’m sure at the end of the year, pretty much everybody will be gone except Varejao, Hickson, and maybe some of young inexpensive players that the Cavs sign to fill roster.
keep JRich
he is like Kobe for the Lakers. He also will improve next season. That guy should stay – I won’t be Suns pro anymore if he leaves too… For me personally I hate Varejo and he should stay in Cleveland (because I’m fine with hating them^^) – If this trade will happen, Suns will be done for me . So please stop smoking that stuff ^_°
He’s probably not going to be on the suns in the summer of next year. Will you be done with the Suns then?
Looks like your more of a Celtics and Heat fan according to your profile page, which says you’re a Celtics and Heat (since Lebron joined) fan.
Without Amar'e around,
I could honestly see JRich averaging 20+ a game.
I really don’t wanna see him go.
IF we do trade JRich, however, we need lots of offense back, and Varejao isn’t that guy.
dude
I personally agree, and i see what others are getting at about varejo. but i also see Jrich avg 20+ and I think we haven’t seen the best of fropez, channing and clark. now turkey glue is in the mix and warrick, throw in varejo in that PF/C/////SF position. too much going on. my feeling is this…we know varejo is good, we also know he is no all star. I feel like fropez’s potentail has barely been tapped and channing is more than a one diminsional player. I’d rather give those guys the mins and keep one of the top ten SGs.
"I’ve been in the league 14 years and I don’t think I’ve been called for a carry yet. It’s news to me," "I’ve never heard anyone complain about me carrying the ball. The best coach in the league Gregg Popovich didn’t have a problem with it last week."
We should give back a SF, since we've got like 20 of them.
Dudley + Clark for Varajao. Our 1st round pick won’t be worth much to Cleveland anyway.
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