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Looking back, do any of you guys wish the Suns had acquired Iguodala at the trade deadline?
by NashMV3 on Aug 22, 2010 11:42 PM MST
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PrintIt's the summer and there's still about 2 months before the regular season tips off. There's no basketball on TV, save for national television coverage of the USA team playing in the FIBA World Championship. The assortment of young talent on there is incredible. Andre Iguodala is one of those fine young players. Watching his performance in the USA exhibition games has made me see just how good he can be. If the Sixers weren't such a poor team, I think he'd be an All-Star.
Watching him play for Team USA has made me think back to the trade deadline in February when there were rumors of a possible trade between the Suns and the Sixers. Amar'e and J-Rich for Iggy, Dalembert, and maybe Speights/draft picks was the most likely package since Philly wouldn't part with Iguodala unless someone took Dalembert with him.
There were many pros and cons discussed about acquiring Iguodala. It was essentially swapping offense (STAT & J-Rich) for defense (Iggy & Dalembert). Seeing as how we advanced to the Western Conference Finals by sticking with Amar'e and Richardson, we seem to have made the right choice. But it doesn't hurt to fantasize and wonder what our team would've been like with Iggy and Dalembert.
We could've finished lower than a 5th seed. We could've lost to the Blazers or Spurs. We might've beaten the Lakers. We probably wouldn't have been able to acquire Childress, Turkoglu, or Warrick after pulling off that trade. Plus, who knows what the situation would've been with Barbosa if we had made this deal? There's a lot of possible ways the Suns' season could've turned out if we had acquired Iguodala, but I want all of you guys to give me YOUR opinion.
Did we make the right decision by not pushing to trade for them? If not, then why do you believe Iguodala and Dalembert would've made our team better than J-Rich and Amar'e?
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Looking back I would have been fine with;
Butler
Iggy
Curry
A. Randolph
JJ Hickson
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yeah Butler seems to be readying for a Marionesque dropoff in production.
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by JeHa on Aug 23, 2010 10:07 AM MST up reply actions
Better than nothing
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
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God, you guys act like Caron Butler is the worst player in the NBA
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
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No, I was asking why the choice was Butler or nothing.
That being said, I’m glad we got the TPE – it has turned out to be much better than any of the trades that I saw discussed.
Auntie Em: Hate you, hate Kansas, taking the dog.
Dorothy
Why do you like the TPE over the other trade ideas?
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
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I was going to list all the players we got with it,
but I’m not exactly sure how it was used, so I’ll just say we got Childress (a coup), Turk, Warrick, and we still have a lot of it left, which gives us a lot of flexibility for mid-season moves.
In your list, I like Iggy, but the rest of them don’t thrill me. I would prefer to find a sleeper/steal, like we did with Fry, Lou, and Dudley.
In addition, getting the TPE meant we got to keep Amar’e, and go to the WCF – bonus.
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Dorothy
For Amare’s TPE we picked up Childress and Warrick and still have 5.7m left – in a year where most of the pundits think that this year’s trade deadline will be active and exciting for teams with money.
In addition, getting the TPE meant we got to keep Amar’e, and go to the WCF – bonus.
Damn straight.
Still I would have liked a player on the list
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Yeah,
we didn’t win, might as well just be prepared for the future.
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so 54 regular season wins and 10 playoff wins
is no better than 30 or 40?
Is your name Donald Sterling? Hey, how’s it going?
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by Alex Laugan on Aug 24, 2010 12:36 PM MST up reply actions
another answer, less flippant
you’re saying this “we didn’t win, might as well be prepared for the future” because it’s August and you’re stressing about the 2010-2011 season.
We were saying the same thing during the Blazers, Spurs or Lakers serieses? Were you sitting in front of your TV, shking your head, saying “why the hell are we playing right now? We should be looking forward to NEXT season right now.”
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by Alex Laugan on Aug 24, 2010 12:39 PM MST up reply actions
dammit
meant this:
Were you saying the same thing during the Blazers, Spurs or Lakers serieses? Were you sitting in front of your TV, shaking your head, saying "why the hell are we playing right now? We should be looking forward to NEXT season right now. The playoffs aren’t worth it."
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by Alex Laugan on Aug 24, 2010 12:40 PM MST up reply actions
No,
I was hopeful we would win, but I knew we needed height to compete with the Lakers. Resigning Amare would have been the best thing to do IMO. That would be a powerful roster if you acquired Barbosa for Hedo.
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thats actually
what the Suns had planned. One of the selling points in the face-to-face meetings on June 30 was that Hedo was coming for LB, upping our overall talent. Amare still left.
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Ummm...I believe we did compete with the Lakers last year.
I’m not even sure that height is the reason we lost the WCF. Seems to me that our game plan handled the Lakers bigs pretty well – it was Artest, and Fisher, and Kobe, and Odom, and…
We could rehash all of that, but the truth is, if we had played just a little bit better, we could have won. And now, the bulk of our team has been seasoned well into the playoffs. I wouldn’t trade that for anything.
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Dorothy
Exactly
We were one rebound away from going up 3-2. We could’ve won game 6 were it not for that onslaught Kobe unleashed in the final minutes. We were pretty much in it, except for the first 2 games.
Steve Nash is my mancrush. But Goran Dragic is the 2nd coming of Manu Ginobili, which makes him just as tasty.
Not trying to nitpick, but...
Game 5 was tied when Artest made that last second putback. It’s not a true statement that “we were one rebound away from going up 3-2”. If we get that rebound, we still would have had to win in overtime, hardly a given.
by East Bay Ray on Aug 24, 2010 8:09 PM MST up reply actions
Considering the recent momentum switch capped by Richardson's 3 pointer
I feel confident that we would have prevailed in that overtime.
But true, its not 100% certain.
Here's exactly how it would have worked out.
It would have went back and forth, with the Lakers turning it over with 10 seconds left. J-Rich runs the length of the floor, attacks the basket, and throws up a baseline floater over 2 Lakers for the win.
At least that’s how it worked out the last time I saw someone hit a bank 3 to tie a game in the 4th quarter. That was my brother’s 4th grade tourney game though. 4th grade CYO is exactly like the NBA, right?
(BTW, my brother played the part of J-Rich in that game)
Really Jaxis?
One team out of 30 wins the Finals each year. The idea that 29 teams have an unsuccessful season each year sounds like something Colin Cowherd would say.
How foolish of the Suns to make it to the WCF last year. What a waste of time that was.
"I make my case against a stack full of comics. Here comes the line.... I'm loaded with rocket fuel!!"
- Mike Watt, The Minutemen
We're all Suns fans here.
No need to throw around insults. Invoking the name of Cowherd is out of line.
You're right Omaha.
That was a dick move on my part.
Jaxis, you’re totally not Cowherdish.
"I make my case against a stack full of comics. Here comes the line.... I'm loaded with rocket fuel!!"
- Mike Watt, The Minutemen
Who is Colin Cowherd,
being dead serious here.
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ESPN guy.
Known for slobbering all over successful players or teams and bashing any player or team that has never won a title in their respective sport.
"I make my case against a stack full of comics. Here comes the line.... I'm loaded with rocket fuel!!"
- Mike Watt, The Minutemen
So he's a Laker fan?
How dare you call me that lol.
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BTW, the correct way to refer to him is "Colin Cowturd"
by East Bay Ray on Aug 24, 2010 8:32 PM MST up reply actions
I generally try to stay above name-calling.
Especially when the guy does such a great job of embarrasing himself.
He's an elitist
If you’re not a big name, he likely doesn’t know who you are and doesn’t care. He hates NCAA tourney upsets for example. He finds Butler being in the title game boring and terrible for the sport. He also has a radio show BY HIMSELF where he does interviews and talks for 2 hours. Yuck.
Well, I want to compete to win
we did that these playoffs, we were missing just 1 piece, now it’s kind of like taking a step back, a prospect would have helped. Ex: Lakers suck for 2 seasons, get Gasol. Ex: Suns suck for 3 seasons, get Nash.
Ex: Knicks suck forever, get Amare.
Ex: Heat suck for 3 seasons, get James and Bosh.
I loved our playoff run, but at the trade deadline I wouldn’t have expected us to go 54-28 and make it to the WCF. I like the moves we made this off season, I just think we need a true PF, like Amare was, or David Lee or David West are.
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But Al Horford certainly is =)
Steve Nash is my mancrush. But Goran Dragic is the 2nd coming of Manu Ginobili, which makes him just as tasty.
Yeah - if you can figure out how to get him, I'll vote for you for GM.
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Dorothy
I'm glad we didn't do the trade at the deadline
The chances of making the WCF with a revamped rotation would be next to nothing. Look at Dallas, who always makes changes midseason. They lost in the first round. The Suns run to the WCF is irreplaceable.
Making the trade last summer for Curry, Biedrins, Azubuike and Brandon Wright (Kerr mentioned those names) would have been a good one in terms of talent. of course, if that trade had gone down then Hill would be in Boston and Nash would be on another team as well. Oh and Biedrins would have soaked up Lopez’ minutes and Curry would have dimmed Dragic’s chances, maybe.
And the Suns would have won 35 games. We would be talking on here about maybe making the playoffs this coming season, and wondering when we’d be able to compete for a championship again.
Personally, I prefer the bird in hand (great, great run at WCF with one of my fave Suns teams ever) than the uncertainty of rewriting the past.
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I wouldn't have wanted to do it last year.
The Suns won games by scoring a lot and playing just enough defense to win games. Trading away the 2 best scorers for 2 defenders would have totally messed up the team. You can’t completely change a team with 30 games left and expect them to succeed. I don’t even know if that team would be great this year. Iggy is a very good player, but you don’t want him as your primary scorer. I might have done the deal if it could have been done without J-Rich, but with the salaries that wouldn’t be possible.
That being said, I would love to do a deal for Iggy now. He’s one of my favorite non-Suns in the league, and I love the way the guy plays. I would like a Hedo+Warick for Iggy+Speights deal to go down. That would definitely make the team better and is close to being feasible financially (I didn’t look at salaries, but I’m sure they’re close enough to make something happen). The only problem is I don’t see PHI willing to make that trade.
JRich for Iggy is not trading offense for defense.
STAT for Dalembert is obviously O for D; Iggy scores just as much and does everything else a little better than JRich, too.
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by JeHa on Aug 23, 2010 10:07 AM MST reply actions
I consider J-Rich the superior offensive player,
as Iggy’s jumpshot is unreliable.
Less of a 3PT shooter, but scoring still equal and better passing/court sense IMO
My only concern with AI would be that he could possibly have Marion/JJohnson disease—desiring or being content with being the alpha dog on a bad team.
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by JeHa on Aug 23, 2010 1:31 PM MST up reply actions
That was over-simplifying...
I know Iggy is a very capable scorer and would be even better in the Suns system. Iggy is one of the most complete players in the league, but J-Rich is more complete scoring-wise. He is a very capable outside shooter, is good from mid-range, can finish around the rim, and has a very good post game.
offensively, JRich fits better
because he can consistently hit the 3. Iggy only hits low-30s. Till Nash retires, you need high-% 3-pt shooters spreading the floor.
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Exactly.
That’s also why I don’t understand why people are so ready to trade J-Rich because they think Childress can step in and start.
Childress hit 37% 3pt his last year in the states (3 years ago), and 33% 3pt last year in Europe.
Compared to Richardson’s 39% last year and Iguodala’s 31% last year.
Childress’ 3pt percentage will likely be fully respectable this year.
Those are his percentages, but he doesn’t really take a lot of 3s. He’s kind of like Grant Hill in that he’s not a prolific shooter but can make it if you leave him wide open. He’s not going to create many shots for himself or hit it in the defenders face like J-Rich can. 3PT shooting isn’t really a big part of his game.
Plus his form is just plain ugly. : )
It’s certainly ugly. Like Marion ugly.
However, he does create his own shot quite well – they just tend to be drives to the basket.
Mid-range? I read something about him having little-to-no mid-range game. When he attacks he goes all the way. I think it was on Valley of the Sun.
Like I said, that was just what I saw in an article analyzing his game.
He even had videos from Greece! He has to be right!
Seriously though, all I remember about him personally is that he was long, athletic, liked to attack the basket, and had a huge afro.
However he does it
he manages an exceptionally good two-point shot percentage.
52% last year in Greece and 57% his last year in the states.
For comparison (last year):
59% – Robin
56% – Amare
55% – Lou
51% – Steve
48% – Grant
47% – JRich
46% – Dudz
45% – Dragic
45% – Frye
43% – LB
I don’t really care if he dunks, lays it up, jump shoots, sky hooks or does a swan dive with a half gainer right into the back of a garbage truck – as long as he continues to be that efficient.
Not quite THAT ugly.
No need to insult the guy.
But that was my point. His game is attacking the basket.
And when he finishes, he finishes hard.
Steve Nash is my mancrush. But Goran Dragic is the 2nd coming of Manu Ginobili, which makes him just as tasty.
With a trade we could
possibly could have had more talent at this moment.
But in hindsight, I’ll definitely take our unforgettable run to the WCF where we took out a tough Blazer team, SWEPT the Spurs, and were possibly 1 offensive rebound away from making the NBA Finals.
we possibly could have had more talent right now*
Been a long time since a comment. I guess i forgot how to write a coherent sentence.
lopez next to dalembert
Alex is right. A bird in the hand is better than two in the bush (despite what Geico says).
But your point was about Iggy and Dalembert. Igoudala is a ball in hand type of player. Which contridicts the offense we run which is point control heavy. And if you bring in Dalembert, you either cut Lopez’s minutes (which severely hurts his development) or play them side by side, which also inhibits the Suns offensive system. The reason Lopez and Frye worked well with Stat is that they can move out of the block area when Stat moved down low. Lopez and Frye can hit jumpers away from the key. Dalembert can’t. So he HAS to stay in the block area the whole time. Clogging the middle, just like Shaq. Doesn’t work for the Suns system
All of this is why they didn’t make the trade and why it’s a good thing they didn’t.
Didn't J-Rich use to be a ball-in-hand type of player back when he played in Golden State?
I thought he had to adapt here because Nash had the ball in his hands most of the time. Don’t you remember that stretch where he came off the bench after his suspension? He had to work his way back into the starting lineup and he did well coming off the bench. I thought it might’ve had something to do with Dragic needing the ball less than Nash does.
Steve Nash is my mancrush. But Goran Dragic is the 2nd coming of Manu Ginobili, which makes him just as tasty.
Iggy seems like a guy who can play off the ball very well.
He’s a hyper-athlete who can run the floor and finish around the basket. He’s not a great shooter, but he can spot up and knock ’em down from the corner. He seems like a guy who is willing (and able) to do whatever a team needs.
not a great shooter
would mean he can’t play off the ball. He needs to drive to the hoop to get his points, which means he has to have the ball.
Not at all true
He would be devastating running the flex screen in a low 1-4 set. And I think he could probably be the primary screen guy in the p’n’r with a little adjustment.
It would have been interesting to see him play the 4 spot. It might not have worked, but it would have been interesting.
in what lineup
would Iguodala play as a 4? Show me this lineup that a team would put on the court day in, day out 30+ minutes. Reminder, Iggy is only 6’6…
Starting lineup
PG – A. Iguodala
SG – A. Iguodala
SF – A. Iguodala
PF – A. Iguodala
C – A. Iguodala
Bench – A. Iguodala, A. Iguodala, A. Iguodala, A. Iguodala, A. Iguodala, A. Iguodala, A. Iguodala, A. Iguodala
by waxmonkey on Aug 23, 2010 10:04 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
pure shooter
IMO, JRich is a better shooter off the ball than Iggy is. I haven’t seen as much of Igoudala play as I have JRich and their FG% is similar, but hands down JRich has a much better 3PT%, which to me says he’s a better pure shooter than Andre. He’s also older, so he’s more likely to adapt to a more proven player’s (Nash) game than Andre is. When Philly had AI, they couldn’t coexist because AI and Iggy both wanted the ball. Igoudala needed to be willing to move without the ball and wait for AI to develop the play, then react to a screen and receive the off screen pass for a jumper. Now, if Iggy HAD been willing (I don’t actually know) that would have been a very different case. But if just as easily could have been that he wasn’t able to change because it doesn’t fit his skillset. I think it’s more of the latter rather than the former. An above average player, Iggy may be. I don’t think he’s an arrogant guy or Coach K wouldn’t be keeping him around, but I just don’t see him as a spot-up shooter like JRich plays for the Suns.
i love iguodala
but i love jrich and childress better at this time
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right. complete agreement.
well…ok, I only LIKE Iguodala…not love
iguodala
would be a great 3rd best player on a championship team, I think. He’s smart and a great defender when he wants to be. But he’s proved in Philly that he can’t be THE leader to carry a team to/through the playoffs
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two words Fuck No, excuse my language, but Jrich is still superior to Iggy and Amar'e during the second half of the season was better than all of those guys combined. Sure we would have gotten cap space, but we would have lost a real talent in jrich;
by letting go of amar’e we have gotten tons of talent in exchange and kept one that is a key into the future of the Phx suns.
"Remember this sh*t at christmas!"-Terry Crews, The Expendables
yup...
Jrich was great through the playoffs and trading at the deadline rarely works out in the same year
"I’ve been in the league 14 years and I don’t think I’ve been called for a carry yet. It’s news to me," "I’ve never heard anyone complain about me carrying the ball. The best coach in the league Gregg Popovich didn’t have a problem with it last week."
Igoudala isn't a SG
Wasn’t that demonstrated well enough last year?
I think he would have ended u playing PF for us, with Amare gone. Hill, Dragic, and Barbosa would have taken the minutes at SG.
Looking back, I owuld have traded amar'e for hickson, then we'd get a plus forward for the future,
cap space, enough to net childress and turk. That way, our roster would be fully set with an even brighter future.
"Remember this sh*t at christmas!"-Terry Crews, The Expendables
Hickson can also play backup center, but dealing with the Cavs when they had LeBron...
that’s just blasphemy.
Steve Nash is my mancrush. But Goran Dragic is the 2nd coming of Manu Ginobili, which makes him just as tasty.
really?
you would sacrifice the WCF for a young prospect now? Not knowing whether Lawal or Warrick or anyone else would be just as good anyway?
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well, I think it is better to have better prospects for the future, than go on a run to the wcf; by acquiring said prospects the chance of winning a chip increase.
Especially since J.J can play backup C, then he and Lawal could make a nice but undersized tandem, otehrwise what the suns are known for
"Remember this sh*t at christmas!"-Terry Crews, The Expendables
ask the Clippers, GS and Minny how that plan is working
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Solid point, but they have stupid Gm's and owners heading their operations, and they don't have the experience or veteran leadership that the suns have to navigate the team in the proper direction.
Agreed, Hickson is becoming a bit overrated, and he is still a project, but I’d rather have him, jrich, childress and turk over amar’e.
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I still don't get it
you’d rather have JJ Hickson now (knowing that Lawal could possibly turn out just as good) than a deep playoff run 2 months ago? I just don’t understand it.
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by Alex Laugan on Aug 24, 2010 12:07 PM MST up reply actions
Hickson
is starting to become really overrated. He’s still a project, at this point he could either be the next Amare or the next Stromile Swift.
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by RMason on Aug 24, 2010 11:06 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Apparently the front office has already said Hickson will be the starter. They are focusing on a youth movement (rightfully so). I hope Jamison gets traded to at least a decent team.
Probably us. Just watch. J-Rich and Warrick to the Cavs for Varejou and Jamison.
Don't trade Dudley!
I think so too,
we need a PF, they need a SG, and Lance Blanks is our GM now.
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Your right
Hedo Turkoglu is a great PF. One season he averaged over 10 rebounds and he’s 7 feet, wait! No? He’s 6-10 and only averages 5 rpgs?? Whoa. We need a TRUE PF.
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again...
you’re wanting something that we don’t necessarily need it as of yet. Let it play out. I never would have thought that with the roster we had last year we would have made the WCF, but hey! we did anyways. We don’t NEED anything right now except for patience to let this team develop their own chemistry and camaraderie. Have some faith in Gentry’s coaching staff.
no kidding
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by Alex Laugan on Aug 24, 2010 12:36 PM MST up reply actions
Come on,
when we got Nash he was declining; 14 points and 9 assists. Did you ever expect him to win 2 mvp’s and lead the Suns to 6 50+ win seasons.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
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Nash was a WINNER
In Dallas, they won.
Jamison’s Wizards? Atrocious.
Did he make Cleveland better? No! The “addition” of Jamison merely served to turn a good defensive club into a bad one. Boo!
Jamison was in Dallas Nash's last year.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
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I always thought the Cavs were lacking a SG more than a PF.
They didn’t need Amar’e or Jamison. There were rumors of the Cavs trying to acquire Iggy too.
Steve Nash is my mancrush. But Goran Dragic is the 2nd coming of Manu Ginobili, which makes him just as tasty.
Wha?
Really? If JRich is dealt at the deadline, it will be either to a team that is rebuilding and looking to use his expiring deal to save money, or a contender looking for some firepower to push them up a notch. I doubt Cleveland would fit either bill; they seem to be stuck in that awkward postponing-the-inevitable phase. They are no longer relevant but they aren’t ready to admit that they suck and start over.
And I really hope that the Suns aren’t interested in Antawn Jamison. He’s a good character guy and is slightly above average across the board, but I just recently realized… the dude is 34 years old. His production dropped off last year, he figures to start rapidly declining.
"I make my case against a stack full of comics. Here comes the line.... I'm loaded with rocket fuel!!"
- Mike Watt, The Minutemen
Yeah, what scares me about Jamison is his age.
But if we can get some young talent packaged with him, I think I would feel better.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
what scares me about Jamison
is his age, his tweener-ness (he’s too small for PF, too slow for SF on defense), his propensity to shoot jumpers that miss in the playoffs, his inability to step up in a winning environment (Washington before Arenas injury, Cleveland last year), his bad shoulder, his age, his….
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Robin Lopez like fro-got
so now you have to keep it. You don’t want him breaking down your shower door, do you?
Errrrr… mebbe I should rephrase…
I really like Iggy for some strange reason. I think he would be great for us as a starting 3. I would love a backcourt of Nash, J-Rich, and Iggy. The problem is that we have Turk who I assume next season will be playing 3 for the majority of the time. Right now, J-Rich is the better player for us.
Don't trade Dudley!
That's how I feel.
That’s why I suggested trading Hedo+ for Iggy+. Improve the team without creating too much of a log-jam (although Jared would have to take a reduced role this year until Grant retires).
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