Phoenix Suns Notes: Griffin, Blanks, Nash And The Gang
We've got a little bit of Suns news to whet our appetites this morning.
Read about former Sun David Griffin in his search for the holy grail, a long-awaited introduction to our new GM, and... drum roll please... many of the Suns are already hitting the court together, including some big names.
Summer is almost over, folks!
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David Griffin still in search of the Holy Grail
Am I the only one who thinks Griffin is, possibly, overstepping his own bounds in the search for the perfect GM job this summer?
As of yesterday, he has publicly recused himself from 2 GM openings in the last 2 months, while still actively job-hunting. At least in terms of the Nuggets, that's a lot of hours invested in a man who ultimately turned them down.
I love what Griff did for the Suns organization. He was promoted from within, starting as a video coordinator and ending as VP of Basketball Operations in 18 years of work. He has been afforded a lot of respect, working alongside successful GMs in Bryan Colangelo and rookie Steve Kerr (lets forget the crash-n-burn D'Antoni as GM era for the moment).
But can a "never higher than #2 man" really afford to hold out for the perfect "#1 man" GM job? Especially with Kevin Pritchard, Tom Penn, Mark Warkentein, Rex Chapman and a host of equally well-liked #2s across the NBA ready to snap up the rare autonomous GM jobs as soon as they appear?
One of two things are going to happen at this point: (a) he never gets that dream GM job he thinks he deserves, or (b) he DOES get it, but now the expectations are higher than they should be for a rookie #1 which ultimately shortens the leash on his reign.
Lance Blanks, finally
It feels like he was hired eons ago, yet we've never heard the man speak. If a tree falls in the forest, did it really make a sound? Our own Jared Dudley couldn't remember the man's name the other day in an interview.
Well, today that changes. Blanks will be introduced as the Suns GM in a press conference at noon. I'm sure Seth "I've got a press pass and you dont" Pollack will be on-hand to record and transcribe/analyze the presser if you miss it.
Hopefully, he'll mention that he's got a plan for a backup only-play-in-case-of-injury big man signing. But other than that, we're really in a holding pattern till training camp starts. And Blanks' first tough decision likely won't come until next February.
And you thought Sarver was a bad owner?
Get a load of this. Sarver looks like an angel compared to Michael Heisley of the Grizzlies. They didn't even touch on the fact that the Grizzlies withdrew their qualifying offer from Ronnie Brewer this summer, 3 months after giving up a future first-rounder to get him from the Jazz.
(note the comment regarding our new backup PF Hakim Warrick)
Players are arriving at the arena!
The Phoenix Suns twitter account announced that several players were in the arena on Tuesday, doing some on-court and conditioning work.
Steve Nash, Grant Hill and Josh Childress are the latest names to hit the court. Others have been there since mid-August: Gani Lawal, Robin Lopez, Earl Clark and Matt Janning.
Coming next week, for sure, are Hakim Warrick and Jared Dudley. According to his twitter account, Duds is playing full-court pickups in Vegas right now, dominating the competition. He plans to come to Phoenix over the weekend. And Warrick mentioned in my interview last week that he's planning on hitting the practice court right after Labor Day.
Turkoglu and Dragic are playing in the World Championships, so don't expect to see them till training camp.
That leaves only Richardson and Frye unaccounted for. Last year, JRich arrived the week after Labor Day. Frye has been doing charity work via a kickball tourney as late as last week. Since he already lives in the Valley, expect to hear of him joining the pickup games sooner than later. Surely, Warrick will want his only pre-signing Suns friend on the court with him no later than next week.
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Your comments about David Griffin are dead on
He’s being way too picky.
But if he feels he’s comfortable where he’s at, why take a job that’s destined to be bad? The Nuggets are facing likely losing Carmelo Anthony and being stuck with an aging Chauncey Billups and an unstable J.R. Smith as their best players. No one particularly WANTS to go to the Nuggets, to they’re going to have to hope they either get a nice draft pick or a nice prospect back if they eventually trade Carmelo. In essence, if he takes the Denver job, his tenure will basically already be defined by a Carmelo Anthony trade.
Bloggin' 'bout AZ sports ... SB Nation Arizona
"If he's comfortable where he's at"
where is he right now? On unemployment, as far as I know
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Well if Denver truely lowballed him like the article says
What did they expect? He just left a team where the salaries of the front office were a problem, if they really wanted him they should have offered a more respectable salary.
Besides, he’s still the more in demand than the Portland and Denver duos and there are new jobs all the time.
by hcblankscreen on Aug 25, 2010 11:06 AM MDT up reply actions
is he really more in demand than the Portland/Denver duos?
Maybe for a job like this one, that’s not autonomous and pays less than most.
But if GS or the Knicks open up their jobs, and there’s more money and autonomy available, I would bet that Pritchard and Warkentein are MUCH more valuable than Griffin in that context.
And quite frankly, I question the claim that Phoenix has a similar salary problem. Sarver said (unrefuted by anyone later) that Kerr was already being paid in the top third of GMs before he left. And his new contract offer was the same, without a raise. Still, that’s top-third of all GMs. And Sarver replaced Kerr and Griffin with Babby and Blanks.
In the article citing Griffin’s rejection, it mentions that the Denver opening was for less than the “new GM” going rate of 1 million (Demps, Cho). I highly doubt that’s a top-half salary, or it would have been mentioned in the article. So Denver is lowballing much more than Phoenix did.
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by Alex Laugan on Aug 25, 2010 11:18 AM MDT up reply actions
of course
I probably just supported your argument that Griffin was right to turn down the Denver offer, as it looks even less promising at this time than Phoenix did.
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by Alex Laugan on Aug 25, 2010 11:19 AM MDT up reply actions
I mean, comfortable with whatever amoutn of money he has in the bank
and whatever other offers/opportunities he may have floating around.
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by Justin Burning on Aug 25, 2010 2:19 PM MDT up reply actions
I was just gonna FanShot the Heisley interview notes!
How is it that the NBA agents negotiate with this guy?
He’s completely ignorant and knows about as much as I do about owning a franchise.
Seriously, this clears up how Rudy Gay got $82 million
and how
they are one of the worst franchises in the NBA. OJ Mayo and Zach Randolph have not come back to bite them in the ass yet, but they will…
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I remember this Heisley story:
So he hired Jerry West as his GM, and after a few months West hadn’t made any big moves. Heisley storms into West’s office and barks at him for not doing anything. So West picks up the phone, called Brian Cardinal’s agent and offered him 5yr full mid-level.
Maybe he barked Chris Wallace into making that Gasol dump too. Who knows.
Stay frosty my friends!!
http://nba.fanhouse.com/2007/07/04/brian-cardinals-stupid-contract-explained/
Stay frosty my friends!!
oh shit
no wonder. It all makes sense now.
Though I wonder why Cardinal’s agent took the offer right away. Why not get a bidding war going? (snigger)
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Now that Taylor Griffin is playing overseas,
I can say that Brian Cardinal is the Taylor Griffin of America.
"I make my case against a stack full of comics. Here comes the line.... I'm loaded with rocket fuel!!"
- Mike Watt, The Minutemen
Congrats, Clippers.
Thanks to Heisley’s Grizz, you are no longer the most depressing franchise in the NBA.
We already knew that they were a team without a fan base, playing in a college town (even the NFL couldn’t draw a crowd when the Oilers played there), and even the casual fan (or Donald Sterling) would know not to flush all your cap space for the likes of Zach Randolph. And is there a single person who thought Thabeet at no. 2 overall was a good choice at the time? Nauseating.
"I make my case against a stack full of comics. Here comes the line.... I'm loaded with rocket fuel!!"
- Mike Watt, The Minutemen
Zach Randolph played extremely well last season, Thabeet is just getting started and Marc Gasol and O.J Mayo have nice futures ahead of them; they aren't as depressing because veryone knows that the clippers
are cursed.
"Remember this sh*t at christmas!"-Terry Crews, The Expendables
wow, when we're arguing over
who is a more depressing franchise – the Grizzlies or Clippers – that’s saying something all by itself.
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by Alex Laugan on Aug 25, 2010 10:53 AM MDT up reply actions
I know this won’t happen, but the Grizzlies and the Clippers shouldn’t exist. One should be destroyed in a league contraction and the other should move to Seattle and become the new Sonics.
by 8472species on Aug 25, 2010 10:57 AM MDT up reply actions
Haha
We could also get into an argument over whether Zach Randolph was a good signing or not, but I think I’ll avoid that one and go shoot some fish in a barrel instead.
"I make my case against a stack full of comics. Here comes the line.... I'm loaded with rocket fuel!!"
- Mike Watt, The Minutemen
Hey I'm just looking at the bright side of their situation, you see living in LA and witnessing the clippers up close made me realize something, the clippers dont have a bright side to them.
They get tons of lotto picks every year but something bad happens and they get screwed over. Now everyone is saying teh clippers have improved with blake griffin, chris kaman, and eric gordon but the clippers still are in teh same conference with the lakers and suns, two teams that are proven winners.
"Remember this sh*t at christmas!"-Terry Crews, The Expendables
yeah, hope that means he will be in shape
he was there early last year too. I remember local beat writer Paul Coro commenting that the Suns would have a tough time keeping him off the court, because he looked pretty good in those pickup games.
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by Alex Laugan on Aug 25, 2010 10:45 AM MDT up reply actions
Yeah, as soon as I said it, I worried that it might mean nothing.
by 8472species on Aug 25, 2010 10:55 AM MDT up reply actions
Phew...went kind of fast.
Summer is almost over, folks!
Amen dude; here we go!
There isn't a single acceptable situation for the question "Is this game almost over yet?" Not one.
Erick Dampier?
Apparently, the Bobcats waived Erick Dampier, and tried to sign him for less money, but of course he didn’t want to accept less money; that’s why they signed Kwame Brown. (I thought a team that waived a player still had to pay him.) If they wouldn’t be on the hook for any of his large contract, what if the Suns try to sign Dampier as a backup big man? I don’t know how much money is “less money” for the Bobcats anyway, but it couldn’t hurt to find out whether Dampier would join the Suns at a price they would pay. If he’s been waived, do the Suns not have to trade for him?
They didn't waive him
just today they said they are going to try to trade him
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
Rotoworld said they are expected to waive him
but Charlotte FO said they want to trade him
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
Erick Dampier's contract is not guaranteed for next season
That’s why he was such a great trade chip. Basically a walking $10M trade exception. If Charlotte waives him before a certain deadline, they don’t have to pay him a cent for next season.
And I miss the days when Shaq was making Erica Dampier jokes…
Stay frosty my friends!!
the informal wager was
“how long after Dampier gets waived till someone posts a comment/fanpost about us signing him?”
the winner would have been the person who said “why wait till he’s released?”
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seriously though
Dampier is the worst guy in the world, for this present team
We need a guy who is willing to sit on the end of the bench till someone gets hurt, meaning he possibly wouldn’t play all year. Erik Dampier would spend the entire season bitching about playing time. yet, he does not deserve any time ahead of the 10 other guys currently in the playing rotation (Nash, Dragic, JRich, Chill, Hill, Duds, Turk, Warrick, Lopez, Frye)
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Yay!
Im so excited that players are getting back in town! It means the season will be here soon!!! :) Im going crazy without Suns basketball. All I have to focus on is schoolwork… ;)
"If the Suns can shock the world
Goran Dragic is the name."
by Dragic_is_Magic on Aug 25, 2010 6:13 PM MDT reply actions
Question
If we could trade for Dampier now could we use him at the trade deadline or are we better off not going there and just see if what we can get with our T.L.E. from the Amare deal?
just tell me the 13 million dollars worth of players
you’d sacrifice to have dampier on this team.
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13 million you say
I didn’t know he was getting that much coin. It’s all good we’ll go with the door number two on this one. Hang on can we include Sarver in the deal :)
by Sunderstruck on Aug 26, 2010 2:53 PM MDT up reply actions
That's why he's such a good trade piece for teams looking to cut payroll.
His contract is for $13 mil, but it is completetly unguaranteed. If a team cuts him, they don’t owe him a cent.

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