New Phoenix Suns GM? A Look At The Candidates, So Far
The Suns hired Lon Babby a couple weeks ago to be their President of Basketball Operations, acting as the #1 voice for the foreseeable future in the Suns front office. Every deal that happens from now on will be with his blessing (and Sarver's, of course).
Babby's talent is in the world of contracts. He is a long-time, highly respected player agent. So he should have solid footing in the area of negotiations and legalese. He should know what players and agents want to hear, when pitting contract offers against each other. A little incentive here, a little bonus there. He should be able to close the deal.
But WHO should Babby be signing, other than first-year players that shined in summer league?
That's not Babby's strong suit, and he knows it. He's looking for a talent-evaluator extraordinaire. He's looking for that guy to convince him Player A is the best player to sign, the number one option. And then Babby will swoop in and start negotiating.
So, who is that talent evaluator going to be? And what is their track record?
Paul Coro, Suns beat writer for azcentral.com and Arizona Republic says:
We often hear that this person will be a basketball skill evaluator and many feel it will be an ex-player who communicates well. One of Steve Kerr's best qualities as GM was his ability to connect with everyone with sincerity. He addressed issues with all employees in the organization and kept players content and away from any front office nonsense.
Babby himself has said:
"I want to have somebody who I know is a crackerjack talent evaluator," said Babby, the Suns' new president of basketball operations. "I need to make sure we're strong in the areas that I'm not. Again, I'm not claiming to be something I'm not."
Rumors of names are circulating.
Lance Blanks - Assistant GM, Cleveland Cavaliers
The only one 100% confirmed as a candidate, because he had an interview last week with the Suns, is Lance Blanks. Before Danny Ferry was fired this summer, Blanks was the #3 talent evaluator in the front office.
I question that front office's track record though. Sans LeBron James, who they got as a gift 7 years ago for being the worst team in basketball, that current roster is a mishmash of role players who probably won't make the playoffs. Add in Ferry's poor choices of high-priced talent to pair with LeBron (Shaquille O'Neal, Antawn Jamison, Mo Williams and previously Larry Hughes, Damon Jones and Ben Wallace), I have to question the work of that front office as a whole.
Now, it's possible the Lance Blanks was the voice of reason, but how can we know that? In the draft, they haven't found any diamonds in the rough, though JJ Hickson looks like a keeper and many years ago Anderson Varejao was a good pickup. But Boobie Gibson? Christian Eyenga? Who else made it to the rotation?
Jeff Bower - former GM, New Orleans Hornets
This was reported by yahoo last week, who previously has reported no less than 3 front-runners for the Suns GM position. Bower worked in the Hornets organization for 15 years until last month, kind of like their version of former Suns' assistant GM Dave Griffin.
Bower was widely respected as a GM over the past several years, and put together the Hornets squad that made surprising noise in the playoffs a few years ago. He oversaw the drafting of several high-quality players (including All-Stars David West and Chris Paul, and last year's surprise rookies Darren Collison and Marcus Thornton). But he also missed on C Hilton Armstrong (whose extra-long neck was the difference between 7'0" first-rounder and undrafted status) and SF Julian Wright (highly talented but uncredibly undisciplined), among others. Still, that's a very strong drafting track record.
In recent seasons, he's made one bad trade after another thanks to his ownership's insistence on staying at or below the luxury tax line (Sarver * 10 here), while Peja Stojakovic aged precipitously and Chris Paul got injured. But even with those guys healthy, that team set a record by losing a deciding playoff game by 50+ points. Ouch.
Tommy Sheppard - Assistant GM, Wizards
Also reported by Yahoo last week. Sheppard has spent the past 7 years in the Wizards front office, 15 total years in the NBA.
In recent years, that front office has signed a very talented player in Gilbert Arenas, acquired talented Jamison and Butler, and drafted Nick Young, Brendan Haywood, JaVale McGee, Andray Blatche and others. A good haul, in terms of talent.
But there's been a common theme amongst all these players: character issues. Not one of them is a "great team player" and not one of them carried the team to more wins than they deserved. Do we really want a talent evaluator who worked in a front office that doesn't value character and inner drive? The Wizards have been one of the worst teams in the league in the past several years, and this was a great cause of it.
Dave Pendergraft - Assistant GM, Atlanta
Mentioned by the Hawks GM Sund himself, plus reported by multiple outlets. Pendergraft has been the Asst GM of the Hawks since 2008. Before that, he spent 11 years with Seattle (8 as a scout, 3 in the front office).
Since 2008, the Hawks have been hit and miss in the draft. They picked Al Horforf (no-brainer), but I guess that's a step up from the prior regime, who took Marvin Williams and Shelden Williams in consecutive drafts after taking Josh Smith and Josh Childress before that. They never found a good PG though, acquiring Mike Bibby from Sacramento (who were glad to get rid of him) and drafting Acie Law (bleh) and Jeff Teague (meh).
Seattle, before Presti arrived, went through a horrendous stretch of drafting - taking every 7-foot talent-less player they could find for several straight years. Saer Sene, Johan Petro, Robert Swift, and Nick Collison. Only Collison has been servicable. Rashard Lewis was a second-round find.
In terms of trading and free agency, Seattle (turned OKC) didn't get good at that until Presti came around and Pendergraft went to Atlanta. Not to say those were directly linked, of course, since he was only one voice of many.
Others
Milwaukee Bucks Asst. GM Jeff Weltman and LA Lakers Asst GM Ronnie Lester were previously interviewed, as were Dennis Lindsey and Dell Demps (Spurs), but only Demps was interviewed by Babby directly. It's been reported that those guys are now out of the running, but nothing has been made official except for Demps (took the vacant NO job). If you compare the track records of these front offices (Lakers, Spurs and Bucks), they are MUCH better than the candidates above, except for Bower (Hornets).
Others available are all "big names" who have been fired by their last teams. So how great can they really be? Kevin Pritchard and Tom Penn (Portland) and Mark Warkentein and Rex Chapman (Denver). None have been specifically linked to the Suns' GM search by a Suns source, since the hiring of Babby.
Summation
Methinks those "big" names/egos are too big to play second-fiddle to Babby. But who knows? Babby said this last week, without naming names:
"The job hasn't been offered to anybody," Babby said. "The process has just begun this week. To this point, nobody has expressed any concern about the structure of the front office."
I'd go back to what Coro said, and expect a young guy who hasn't been a GM before. Someone who can evaluate talent, or at least convince Babby of his ability to do so.
To close this post, it looks like it might be a while before we hear anything. No one is a front-runner right now.
"It's not a horse race," Babby said. "There are no frontrunners. We're going to have a thorough and systematic process, and it'll be at the end of that process that we'll move to evaluations.
"I've committed to myself and the candidates that I wouldn't move forward to a decision until I've completed the interviews. Therefore, there can't be a frontrunner."
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new gm
OK. Here’s my best effort. Grant Hill.
Think about it!
by nuncmeister on Aug 5, 2010 9:12 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
I like it!
That clears up another roster spot and moves Turk to SF! My only reservation is if Grant sports the “Fresh Prince of Bel Air” haircut for the first half of this season again…then I’d want him playing 48 minutes a game.
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by itkonlyyou224 on Aug 9, 2010 7:05 PM MST up reply actions
None of these names wow you
But, I have a more basic question. We just made some huge decisions about our team’s future, and did so without a GM. It can be argued whether the decisions made were sound ones or not, but it calls into question the value of a GM, no? Or, if you think we made terrible moves, maybe you think it signals why we need a sold GM.
Thanks for the post, Alex. I’ve been waiting for this breakdown on the GM candidates.
well I think a GM is important
What the Suns have done so far:
1) sign guys the previous GM liked (Warrick, Frye, Childress)
2) try to re-sign Amare to what I believe was a perfect offer
3) when that failed, get a trade exception back
4) sign draft picks/summer league guys what impressed the coaches
5) trade LB for a guy the coach, the new Pres and previous GM liked (Turk)
But now they are getting into uncharted waters, I think. Sarver and Babby really need to wait to hire a real talent evaluator before making any more big decisions. Bringing in young guys as practice fodder is fine, but no more big trades or “hole filling” (ie. PF/C) until theres a real analysis. I think Babby will be slow and steady on this.
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Right
They mostly have just fallen through on the groundwork that was laid during the Kerr regime. The only thing that doesn’t fit is the Warrick signing. Compared to the other moves that were made, that one came out of left field. Or is it right field? I can never remember…
"I make my case against a stack full of comics. Here comes the line.... I'm loaded with rocket fuel!!"
- Mike Watt, The Minutemen
by RMason on Aug 5, 2010 11:36 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
but I read that they'd already focused on Warrick and Amir Johnson in June
as a mini-replacement for Amare’s skills, in the event of his leaving. That was Kerr and Griffin involved there.
Maybe Sarver jumped the gun on it to sign Warrick so quickly, once Amir Johnson got 24 mil on day 1. But it’s understandable, since Amir friggin Johnson got 34 mil on day 1.
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34 mil, that is
given to Amir Johnson on day 1 of free agency, by his own team (Toronto) with no competing bids yet. The guy is worse (IMO) than Warrick. More like Lou, without the ponytail.
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5 years $34million
kerrrazzzy money for a guy who can’t stay on the court
exactly
I really think Warrick is much better than that guy.
Clearly, the Suns were looking for active (ie. thin, mobile) big men for the frontcourt to run with the Suns and do some of the things that Amare could do, just in case…
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Ok, I must have missed that initially.
Yeah, I have to agree that the Warrick signing came too quickly, and that’s not to say I’m dissapointed in having him here.
I suppose the Amir Johnson signing was a reaction to losing Bosh, like the Warrick signing was a reaction to losing Amare. There is an ugly history in the league of teams that signed and overpaid Player A out of a reaction to losing Player B. The Gugliotta/McDyess fiasco comes to mind.
That being said, I am ok with the Warrick signing. At least he doesn’t have a tattooed throat like Amir Johnson.
"I make my case against a stack full of comics. Here comes the line.... I'm loaded with rocket fuel!!"
- Mike Watt, The Minutemen
Where did you get that info?
I never heard of any confirmed reports that the Suns were interested in Lee.
I believe Turk was targeted long before Amare skipped town.
"I make my case against a stack full of comics. Here comes the line.... I'm loaded with rocket fuel!!"
- Mike Watt, The Minutemen
i read somewhere that part of the pitch to keep amar'e around was the addition of turkoglu
i think that trade had been negotiated well before STAT officially signed with the knicks (and lee signed with the warriors)
Hey, the Laarry Hughes signing by the Cavs was a good signing IMO, the only thing was that Lebron was more of a ball handler like Hughes and not able
to spot up and shoot like MJ was able to do; in essence they had two guys of the same mold in that signing, not exactly the FO’s fault; how were they suppposed to see a negative side of LBJ?
For every sunset, there will always be a sunrise.
That whole Cavs front office is messed up. They just did what Lebron told them to do. They only went after Jamison, Shaq, Williams… because Lebron said so.
Don't trade Dudley!
And we all know how good Lebron is at making a ‘’Decision.’’
"I make my case against a stack full of comics. Here comes the line.... I'm loaded with rocket fuel!!"
- Mike Watt, The Minutemen
by RMason on Aug 5, 2010 11:39 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
the only guy who ever considered that
was Charles himself.
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Remember, he was supposed to run for governer of Alabama at one time.
"I make my case against a stack full of comics. Here comes the line.... I'm loaded with rocket fuel!!"
- Mike Watt, The Minutemen
I hope we get some of those EPSN folks.
They seem to know perfectly how to evaluate talent, especially the ones of the Phoenix Suns.
The Suns are tough!
Mark Warkentien!
or Rex.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
Sexy Rexy!
Hire Rexy for the talent guy. Warkentein is an exec. We’ve got one.
Rex obviously he has ties to the organization anyway and likes it here. And we like him… fallaway in the corner, going out of bounds, no time left on the clock… it’s good!
Having said that… the boys up in Denver have “character issues” as well.
true, about the character issues
but at least they can put a team together that wins a lot of games.
But I’m not sure Rex would want to come back here. He worked for the Suns when they signed Stevie that summer, but then left within 1-2 yrs, much the same way BC, Kerr and Griffin left, respectively
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Sorry, but this is just funny.
90 comments on a post discussing the probably non-existent possibility of Carmelo Anthony coming to the Suns, and only 26 for a post about actual and significant happenings within the franchise.
I guess it’s more fun to be a fantasy GM than it is to discuss who the real one is going to be, haha.
"I make my case against a stack full of comics. Here comes the line.... I'm loaded with rocket fuel!!"
- Mike Watt, The Minutemen
Yes, it is.
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
yeah, I was just thinking the SAME thing
oh well.
When the new GM makes a personnel move, then we’ll get tons of comments about him.
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Well your dilligence is appreciated Alex.
Keep the good stuff coming.
"I make my case against a stack full of comics. Here comes the line.... I'm loaded with rocket fuel!!"
- Mike Watt, The Minutemen
Lon Babby
It’s looking like he’s going to run things with a steady hand, which would be a nice departure from the high turnover rate the front office has seen in the last six-or-so years.
I’m glad that the Suns’ front office didn’t rush to fill Amare’s spot with a high-priced PF. They could have gone nutso and thrown a bunch of money at David Lee or traded some valuble assets for Al Jefferson, but instead they played it cool and assembled some nice pieces that could either complement a future star player or be packaged to attain one.
I see similar behavior in the handling of the GM vacancy. It seems like Babby is making a concerted effort to take due time and make the right decision instead of going overboard and making a panic-induced hiring.
"I make my case against a stack full of comics. Here comes the line.... I'm loaded with rocket fuel!!"
- Mike Watt, The Minutemen
Didn't utah trade two future number 1s?
thats not nothing
yes they did, and their whole trade exception
for a guy who has been traded twice by cellar-dwellers, and can get you 20 and 10 empty points/rebounds on a 15-win team. and he’s got bad knees.
of course, its possible he gets a lot better with Utah, but I’m not sure I’d give up all my cap maneuverability (if the Jazz aren’t rolling in Feb, look for the salary dumps like last season when they dumped their starting shooting guard) and 2 future #1s.
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Apparently Lance Blanks is going to be the new GM
according to chris broussard on twitter
just saw that myself
interesting. I’m not totally in love with the track record in Cleveland, but he was the #3 guy that whole time…
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well that confirms one of two things (or both)
that Blanks really impressed the Suns over all the other candidates and/or he was willing to play second-fiddle in terms of autonomy to Babby. Most GMs are egomaniacs (for good reason), so I can see why the big names wouldn’t want to defer to someone else…
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according to Wikipedia
before Cleveland, Blanks was Director of Scouting for the Spurs.
Man, those Spurs guys are held in SUCH high esteem.
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Here are the picks made while he was director of scouting for the Spurs
Spurs Draft History (2000 – 2004)
* 2000: Chris Carrawell (#41), Corey Hightower (#54, traded for 2 future 2nd round picks)
* 2001: Tony Parker (#28), Robertas Javtokas (#56), Bryan Bracey (#58)
* 2002: John Salmons (#26, traded for Speedy Claxton), Luis Scola (#56), Randy Holcomb (#57, trade for Speedy Claxton)
* 2003: Leandro Barbosa (#28, traded for a future 1st)
* 2004: Beno Udrih (#28), Romain Sato (#54), Sergei Kauralov (#58)
Pretty good.

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