Phoenix Suns Practice Notes: Yippie! Practice Notes!!!
The Suns have been holding informal workouts and scrimmages for a few days now but today was the first time my schedule allowed me to attend. And boy was it nice to see the fellas (and some friends) back on the court.
I ran in Steve Nash earlier in the day but he didn't participate in the scrimmages with Robin, Grant, Channing, Josh, Clark, Lawal, Jones and Matt Janning. Also there was Zabian Dowdell, Sean Marks, Cezary Trybanski and a couple of other fellas.
Oh, and this guy Amare Stoudemire showed up to get some work in. Nice to see him. Former Suns and current Knicks assistant coach Phil Weber showed up as well.
Notes - and take these with a GIANT grain of salt. These are very informal workouts and very early in the season and a very small sample size:
- Robin Lopez has been working on his low-post offense. He went right through Trybanski with a power move and had some nice hooks in the lane. He stayed after to work more with Coach Cartwright. He was moving well and didn't break anything (or anyone).
- Jones and Lawal both have decent potential to do some damage in the post as well, something that Lou Amundson never showed. Both played with energy and hustle you expect. Lawal is more explosive athletically and Jone is more experienced and polished. Should be fun to watch those two develop.
- Good to see Josh Childress up close for the first time. He has incredibly fast hands and his 'fro isn't at super size right now.
- Channing took some three's but overall seemed relaxed. No need to rush back into full-speed too fast, that's how you get hurt.
- Earl hit some nice mid-range J's and put a sweet move on Sean Marks. Yeah, I know but still...
- Janning looked good. His shot was falling and he had a couple of nice steals. Here's an interview with him from today:
Matt Janning Excited For Opportunity To Earn Roster Spot With Suns - SB Nation Arizona
Matt Janning is from Minnesota where the winters are brutal and the summers are hot and humid; but nothing like an August in Phoenix. He might still adjusting to the hundred-plus degree "dry heat" but is already comfortable on the court with NBA legends like Steve Nash and Grant Hill.
[Note by Seth Pollack, 09/02/10 8:19 AM MST ]
I wasn't able to stick around and talk to Amare because of the D-backs game but Paul did:
Former Phoenix Suns star Amar'e Stoudemire returns, reflects
Amar'e Stoudemire stepped back in US Airways Center Wednesday, holding no grudge in sharing his thoughts on his departure.
azcentral.com blogs - Coro's Suns dish - PaulCoro - More from Amar'e
Phoenix Suns update: Amar'e Stoudemire's return to and reflections on Phoenix were chronicled in an article you can read here. But there was more of what Stoudemire said on Wednesday afternoon.
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no kidding
all this fluff talk is getting old. Let’s have some REAL conversations about the team, based on actually seeing them play…
only a few weeks till that happens.
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ppssst
Hey guess what I did at WORK today Alex…
watched the USA game…
watched the Turkaglu I mean Turkey game…
watched the Slovenia v. Brazil game…
went bowling downtown on my lunch break,
and accomplished some marginally engaging tasks for the boss!
My life was almost as cool as Seth’s today
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
I could.
Bringing a laptop to a lecture hall with wifi. College is somewhat liberating.
Steve Nash is my mancrush. But Goran Dragic is the 2nd coming of Manu Ginobili, which makes him just as tasty.
Alex, you disappoint me!
If we don’t endlessly analyze and re-analyze the potential occupants of Suns’ roster spots 11-14, who will??
by suns68 on Sep 1, 2010 8:03 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
HALELUJAH!
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Trybanski?
Is Cezary Trybanski trying to be in the Suns’ training camp, after all this time? How long has it been since he left the Suns—eight years?
right
and so maybe we can’t get too excited about Robin beating him on a post move… ;)
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is true
but I will tell you he wasn’t able to convert that kind of move in practice last season against Jarron Collins or Dwayne Jones and Trybyanski is bigger than both of them…in fact I’ve never seen him make that kind of pure power move before
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Lopez could be an all-star soon.
The Suns could have to fight to keep him whenever he becomes a free agent. I wonder whether he’s another player who would tie up the Suns’ payroll with a huge contract demand. I just have no idea.
Hooray!!
I sure have missed practice notes!!! I am getting so excited for the season I don’t think I can wait much longer!! Only 31 days until the preseason begins!
I like Matt Janning. I really hope he does well.
And im just wondering, why would Amar’e be there? Shouldn’t he be working out in New York? I don’t know these sorts of things, lol…
"If the Suns can shock the world
Goran Dragic is the name."
Not a big deal
Amare still has a house (or homes) here and is in town for any number of reasons…certainly no hard feelings between he and the team so why not
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Well that's good.
It seemed a bit peculiar at first but that makes sense. Im glad to see there are no hard feelings.. It would be a shame if there were.
"If the Suns can shock the world
Goran Dragic is the name."
by Dragic_is_Magic on Sep 1, 2010 5:29 PM MDT up reply actions
but it does show that the Suns
players start pickup games way before NY Knicks do. Amare knows where to go to get a good workout.
(maybe Amare should be leading the early-workout charge in NY?)
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I wouldn't read
all that much into it … he just happened to be in town and get in some work w/ his old buddies. JRich and Dudley aren’t here yet either
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Where's Earl Clark?
Seeing that the likes of Janning, Jones and Lawal are showing up and getting some burn in, it would be nice if Earl was there, at least for the sake of appearances.
"We didn’t go for coffee and this kind of stuff."
-El Dragon on his relationship with Sasha Vujacic
oops
I knew I forgot someone…adding now
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He was that impressive eh?
HAHAHAHA
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
to be fair to me
aka to make excuses…I wrote this in the press box at the D-backs game trying to at least half pay attention to this great Enright/Latos pitching duel (no sarcasm – it’s awesome) and also keep an eye on the Darnell Dockett press conf.
Sorry, Earl :(
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If you ever need some back up to watch Suns practice and write...
You know who to call
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Got me beat. All I got is Chinese food, good company, and great beer.
Auntie Em: Hate you, hate Kansas, taking the dog.
Dorothy
and that beats me
I’ve got okay leftovers and bad beer
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I'm sure the company is great.
Maybe you should change your sig to ‘pick1beer’.
Auntie Em: Hate you, hate Kansas, taking the dog.
Dorothy
Ooh snaps!
Eat it, Sean Marks! You’ve just been Clark’d!
"We didn’t go for coffee and this kind of stuff."
-El Dragon on his relationship with Sasha Vujacic
who is this Earl Clark?
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
So how did the scrubs look?
Scrubby? :-)
I’m mostly interested in Dowdell, and his crazy length on defense.
He looked good on D
but the guy he was matched up with (no idea what his name is which tells you a lot) was about 5-10.
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Yay practice notes!
I really need the NBA season to start. This entire summer has been nothing but star bashing by the media. First LeBron, then a little bit of Wade, then Chris Paul, and now Melo. Ugh, bring on the Suns already….
Steve Nash is my mancrush. But Goran Dragic is the 2nd coming of Manu Ginobili, which makes him just as tasty.
Is anyone going to recap
the Slovenia and/or Turkey wins today?
Slovenia (with El Dragon) beat Brazil (with Splitter, Varejao and Barbosa) today. Neither Dragic nor Barbosa were the difference for their team. I caught the final minutes on NBATV and Dragic looked poor. He lost the ball a couple times, and was not agressive overall. Barbosa, for his part, missed very shot I saw him take. Dragic made him work hard on a couple driving layups, partially causing misses. But LB also missed a couple open 3s. Slovenia is now 3-1, with a #2 seed locked up in their Group B (behind USA).
Turkey (with Hedo and Ilyasova/Bucks) beat Puerto Rico (with JJ Barea). Hedo had 16 points (4/6 on 3s) and 5 assists and 2 rebounds, while Ilyasova had 13 pts and 13 rebs. Turkey is now 4-0 and pretty sure to win their group.
Final match play is tomorrow (5 games) before the quarterfinals start. Team USA is looking to be in a tough bracket with Greece and Spain. I’m not sure but I’m guessing that means Slovenia will be in the easier bracket…
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writeup on the Slovenia game
http://www.blueridgenow.com/article/20100901/APS/1009011754
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I DVRed this one, and watched it when I got home from school.
Goran looked nice early, some strong drives to the basket. At the end of the first quarter, Slovenia stole the ball and Goran made the layup but it was ruled that it wasn’t in time, and right after that the coach sat him, and when Dragic came back in, he lost the energy from the first quarter. He was really losing the ball even more then he was in the beginning. It was not pretty. His D on Barbs wasn’t awful, and he was part of a fantastic foul. In the closing minute, Barbs grabbed him around the waist into a hug, and it was just the best foul ever.
That’s as far as my play by play will get though. Stupid chemistry homework had me pausing every twelve seconds to find the calculator or pull my pencil out of my dogs mouth or something.
Oh, and he got himself to the line a lot, and worked a little on the boards, but thats about it.
Thanks for the tasty info!
"We didn’t go for coffee and this kind of stuff."
-El Dragon on his relationship with Sasha Vujacic
by RMason on Sep 1, 2010 7:30 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Thanks!
That’s nice to hear!
"If the Suns can shock the world
Goran Dragic is the name."
by Dragic_is_Magic on Sep 1, 2010 8:12 PM MDT up reply actions
that shot at the end of a quarter, that was ruled out...
was pure manu-like… pitty it was ruled out…
I saw most of the game, and goran played poorly for his standards… I think he is struggling to play with lakovic and becirovic, both pure playmakers who have ball in their hand most of the time… he cannot get it going by standing in the corner or running without the ball… he should play pure point guard and most of the time (if not all) he is not… ut slovenia overall is doing well so we can expect that strategy to continue…
barbosa played even poorer thatn dragic, I don’t recall him to score more than twice, both times on fast breaks…
there is another very fine player, vidmar… maybe blaz can tell more, but he is playing pf and is very athletic, quick and strong… he is pretty young…
barby and goran had some chat during the game, so sad to remind myself tha the is gone… there might be lot of tears when he comes with toronto to play… both in stands and on the court…
ans just by the way, there is a big interview with greg popovich in croatian newspapers… I don’t recall him speak so openly to the reporters during the season… he is in turkey scouting and is a good friend with one croatian coach, so I guess he helped to get gregg for the interview… he also originates from this area, with fathr montenegrin and mother croat…
if there will be somebody interested, I can try to find a link…
here you go alex, google translated since I don't have time to do it myself :-)
With one of the most successful coaches of today, Gregg Popovich, we discussed in the preparatory camp that trains Fenerbahce Neven Spahija
Gregg Popovich is one of the biggest names of today’s trainers. The man who once was challenged in San Antonio, for whom in one poll 1999th year, when he won the first NBA title with the Spurs, there were only seven percent of respondents remained at the helm of San Antonio for the past 14 years. During this period, winning four NBA titles: 1999th, 2003rd, 2005th and 2007. year.
His ties with the European basketball has deep roots and go back to the military days when he was a member of the U.S. Air Force stationed in Europe. It is a constant visitor to the representative of all major events, even when it was in one of the trainers role. One of his closer ties with Europe (except the origin) is also cooperating with Neven Spahija.
- Neven I know for ten years. Many summers we spent together, talking about basketball. He came and helped us to lead San Antonio in the summer league. Frankly, from him I learned some things that I used in attacking actions Spurs, and he loves to talk about defense, so the basketball, but also off the field, get along well.
• How long are we to wait for a European coach in the NBA?
- I really do not know. There are many European coaches who could work in the NBA. There is no magic, some secrets are only known to us. This is nonsense. Take for example, Nevena. I think he is one of najpodcjenjenijih coaches in the world. It was an extremely successful wherever radio. People in Fenerbahce can be happy that they have him, and eventually will find out why. I have been with many coaches in various European clubs, watching what they do and learn from them. Reuben Magnani, a former coach of Manu Ginobili, with Brazil against the Americans doing some things that I can not wait to see the capture and steal from him. You know, we all do – watch and learn from each other.
• You brought many ‘foreigners’ in San Antonio. Can you say that you are among the first to start work because you are a soldier stayed in Europe and see the quality of these players?
- I’ve never coached anyone in Europe, but I played for some military and other U.S. team. And I have seen many quality players are in Europe, in Yugoslavia and the Soviet Union. I remember the 1988th, in his first year in the NBA, I watched live the Yugoslav national team with Paspalj, Divac, Radja, Petrovic, Kukoc, and others. I was amazed. The Soviet team played Volkov, Marčulionis, Sabonis. I felt like a boy lost in the candy store. With me in this contest was only one coach in the NBA. Only Don Nelson. The Americans then thought that in Europe there are no interesting players that are not used to train, they do not know the language, there will not be adjusted. I had the opportunity to find players who no one knew. Today it is no longer a secret gold mine because they all realize that everywhere in the world there are great players.
• Do you have military training helped coach his career?
- Maybe in terms of discipline. The NBA knows it happens that the players do not want to just listen to the coach who eventually give way. My players know that I am not such that I am stubborn and I will not relent. They know that I will always require them to play solid defense and we’ll work hard. If you will not, there are others who will.
Is this the reason why you could not find common language with Dennis Rodman?
- When I arrived the second time in San Antonio and became the general manager, he was already on the team. Then I could not do anything. It took me a year to remove him. Although I think he is great player, he did not quite fit. Sometimes you can not make decisions solely on the basis of one’s talent, but you must have a vision of what kind of team you want to agree.
• Once you stated that you were third-rate coach, you do not have David Robinson and Tim Duncan on the team. Can we conclude from this that great players make great coaches and vice versa?
- No one has won anything with bad players. However, coaches sometimes to forget, and you assign various merits. When you win something, I always say: ’We blew. We had good players, a good opportunity and we were doing a job. However, it is necessary to have good players. Without them nothing can be won.
• What is your opinion about the new Miami team?
- It will be interesting to watch, but there is no guarantee that they will win the title. Must still train, be fit, profunkcionirati as a team. Time will tell how good it is.
• You helped George Karl in the American team at the World Championships in 2002. in Indianapolis. Why is the team finished in sixth place, and had NBA players?
- The team was bad. Lacked desire. At that time in the U.S. World Cup a few who wanted to know the players and this does not matter. You are in Argentina and Yugoslavia had a fantastic team and none of them could win if the match went without desire. However, it was a good thing for American basketball. The players have realized that America is not the whole world. They understood that the players can be found everywhere, as there are trainers. It was good for the whole world, because everywhere has increased interest in basketball.
• What happened to the Olympic team 2004th, where you were back Larry Brown, who won only bronze?
- The string of unfortunate circumstances. Players who were supposed to play, like Bryant and Kidd did not come. I remember that we have with them a year ago, the American qualifying games against Argentina was 18 at halftime. Half the team did not come to Athens, and James, Wade and Anthony were good, but too young.
• What is the relationship between NBA teams by player departures in a representative programs?
- No coach or GM does not want players to see the hard drive after ten months in the NBA. But what would I do if I was a man to ban Ginobili from playing for Argentina if he greatly desires.
• Your opinion about this American team?
- It is a very character team that shows a lot of desire. One reason is that once again some older players did not come. However, those who are here, they want to prove that they are not found, or maybe not so necessary. Coaches are doing a great job, playing great defense, and with each match will be all the better.
I do not know the truth about my origins
• How do you know about its origins?
- I would tell you more about it, but from my family always hear conflicting stories. I know that my father was originally a Montenegrin, a Croat mother. Mother’s maiden name was Tonković. After that, things get complicated because the parents are divorced and we all end up on different sides. Too long a story. And in these later years even agree parts. Maybe one day they can unlock the truth.
There was no place for Ginobilija and Giricek
• That same year, when you choose to draft Ginobilija, you have and Gordan Giricek, even before Manu. What is ruled to have brought Ginobili, not Giricek?
- After draft both stayed to play in Europe and Manu has developed into a great player. Both have become available at the same time. But Manu has already emerged as one of the best players in Europe, so the choice was obvious. It was difficult because of Gordan. A great guy, great worker. But for both, there was no place in the team.
• Have you ever wanted to know for whom another Croatian player?
- He was the only one. Of course, everyone knows Kukoc, but he was already busy. He is one of the best players of all time. Incredibly talented, with great ability. Wonderful player.
I hope you enjoyed it…
watching the game on DVR
and Dragic landed hard on his coccix in the third quarter. Couldn’t really extend after that. Don’t blame him.
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Yeah, that looked like it hurt.
And he stayed in after too.
I made a face that had my mom going ‘your back hurts too?’
he looked like he was getting
tighter as the game wore on, like the pain was settling in… hope its not a long-term thing
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yeah, i was thinking that too.
anything big, to quote my nephew would be ‘no good.’
That looked like it hurt
I just wish he passed the ball on that play, it was 3 on 1 and he could have also avoided the fall. Not sure what was going on with his slippery hands in the end. Still, coach Becirovic didn’t pull him and left him in the game, so i guess he does trust him. Also nice of Jaka to show up.
Blaz
Looked like
Goran was the only guy that could D up Barbosa.
by hcblankscreen on Sep 2, 2010 2:20 AM MDT up reply actions
he was trying to get 3 pts on the possession
by drawing the foul and making the shot. The layup almost went in – looks like he got hit a bit harder than he expected, which caused the bad fall and missed layup.
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yes, but if he passes in that situation-against a very strong physical defender,
it s a guranteed basket.
Blaz
yet not 3 pts
only 2
that’s the way they think. Plus its manly to take the hit and still make the shot.
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This makes me pumped up for the season, but seeing Turkoglu playing the way he has makes me awfully worried.
"Remember this sh*t at christmas!"-Terry Crews, The Expendables
have you been watching the games?
or just looking at the box scores? or what? I haven’t seen him play personally, so I don’t know how he’s looking.
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watched the game against greece, really turrble. He seems to be having too much fun out there, imo
he is smiling a whole lot and is shying away from making a move.
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by Bkj on Sep 1, 2010 8:02 PM MDT up reply actions
I think Hedo
will be fine. I think he will look at this as a rebirth with Nash at the point. At least he better.
What about that other Turkish guy(don’t know his name)? He has dark hair and scored 26 points. He seems to be pretty good and every time I go on the FIBA Turk website he always seems to be on the front page as if he’s their best player.
Don't trade Dudley!
thats probably Ersan Ilyasova
he played for Milwaukee last season, and is the reason Warrick didn’t start.
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Ilyasova didn't start for the Bucks
He only averaged 23 minutes a game off the bench for them last year
well
Ilyasova started 31 games. Mbah a Moute and Delfino started a bunch too. Sounds like a serious rotation of the lineup, with no true PF all the time…
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/teams/stats?team=mil
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Interesting
I didn’t see the Bucks play til late in the season, at which time he was coming off the bench.
I remember thinking that I wanted that guy on the Suns. He just works crazy hard.
Man, it's good to read a practice report that doesn't involve Team USA.
Yes, yes.
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Yes.
Anyone find themselves rooting against Team USA only because it’s no fun watching a one-sided fistfight?
I don’t was us to lose, but it’d sure be nice if it was close more often.
No, you must humiliate the enemy, make them fear you, pound them relentlessly until they repent.
I’m also very glad they beat in Iran, I won a bet with my friend.
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by Bkj on Sep 1, 2010 8:04 PM MDT up reply actions
You friend thought that IRAN would beat the USA in bball? lolz
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
Yeah he and I are persian, he still thinks that iranians are good at bball
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lol,
Hamed Haddadi vs Kevin Durant lol
"I don't lift weights because they are heavy, and I don't run because it makes me tired." - Charles Barkley
TURRIBLE!
He is probablly the tallest persian in history; persians are genetically short
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Well, I was pulling for Brazil to upset USA.
But that was when I was watching the replay and knew USA won. If it is live then… USA! USA!
I root for USA against certain competition and cheer for them when they win, but when they play certain teams like Brazil and Argentina, I find myself rooting for the underdog.
Don't trade Dudley!
Now come on man, you have to choose one or the other… you cannot, I repeat CANNOT root for both of those two countries at the same time!
I am a Brazil man, myself.
I am fond of jumping off of cliffs...
I’m an American and cheer for USA whenever they win. If they play Brazil, Argentina and some European teams than I’ll root for the underdog. I was pulling for Brazil to win in the game the other day, but I don’t care that they lost because USA won. I admire the Argentinian team especially, because they play with a lot of intensity and some of their players played for my favorite NBA teams. I am also rooting for them in International basketball overall. I’ll even cheer for them if they go against USA because it’s more fun for me to cheer for the underdog. However, if they lose to USA I don’t care.The thing about USA is that when they win, its not that fun because it’s expected, they should win. When they lose it just means that they didn’t put their best players on the court.
Don't trade Dudley!
In other words, for me, International basketball is for fun. I enjoy seeing what teams can challenge USA and I enjoy seeing the possible, future NBA players from their certain countries in action. It isn’t like the Suns in the NBA where every team we play is my enemy and I take pride in every game we win by 20+points and cry every time we come up short in the playoffs.
Don't trade Dudley!
I agree with you completely.
Even though it’s USA, I always cheer for the underdog. Im not upset if USA wins, but it’s nice to see someone else win for a change. International basketball is fun! I’ve been really enjoying the world championships!
I also completely agree with you about the Suns. Except I get pretty teary-eyed after any loss! lol But yeah, any team or player we’re playing is an enemy, and that includes other players I really like, such as Omri Casspi. If we’re playing the Kings, I can’t cheer or be happy for Omri Casspi in that game. I’ll respect, as always, but I won’t cheer. It’s as simple as that!
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Goran Dragic is the name."
by Dragic_is_Magic on Sep 1, 2010 10:05 PM MDT up reply actions
Between Brazil and Argentina, I don’t know its tough. I like both teams. I think the Brazilians have some players other than Barbs and Splitter who I think could play in the NBA if they were more athletic. Manu and Noc are some of my favorite players in the NBA. If they were playing for Argentina I’d root for them against Brazil. Because they aren’t I’d go for Brazil.
International basketball is strange to me. I find a team other than USA that I admire and root for them. For example, I rooted for Russia in the Euro Tourney in 07 and was excited when they beat Spain in the Finals.
Don't trade Dudley!
I am just saying that from a Brasilian or Argentinian perspective, you cant like both, which I respect. I am not saying anything about rooting against the USA or whatnot. I love USA basketball as well, and always root for them, although I love to see basketball improving across the world.
I am fond of jumping off of cliffs...
am not saying anything about rooting against the USA or whatnot. I love USA basketball as well, and always root for them, although I love to see basketball improving across the world.
Nah, I know what you were saying. I just felt like making that point across for other people who would read the comment and question my loyalty I suppose. International basketball is fun to me. I too would like to see basketball improve across the world.
Don't trade Dudley!

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