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Phoenix Suns 2010-11 Preview

STAY HEALTHY, ROBIN!  (Photo by Christian Petersen/Getty Images)

Let's call this Suns Preview Lite, or Suns Pseudo Preview. This one is for the rest of the SB Nation. Alex, Trevor, Panama and I will soon come up with something much more verbose and impressive in the coming weeks. So, allow this to serve as that little hit to keep you from full on Suns withdrawal.

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Team Name: Phoenix Suns
Last Year's Record: 54-28
Key Losses: Amare Stoudemire, Leandro Barbosa, Louis Amundson
Key Additions: Hedo Turkoglu, Hakim Warrick, Josh Childress,

1) What significant moves were made in the offseason?

On the court, Amare Stoudemire signed with the Knicks, Leandro Barbosa was traded to the Raptors for Hedo Turkoglu, Hakim Warrick and Josh Childress were added.

Off the court, Robert Sarver leveled the front office. Gone are Steve Kerr and David Griffin. In their place is former player agent Lon Babby as President of Basketball Operations and Lance Blanks as General Manager. Other additions to the front office include John Treloar at new Director of Player Personnel.

 

2) What are the team's biggest strengths?


Collective Depth, Experience, Flexibility, The Bench, Underdog Status, Team Chemistry.

Collective depth could also be called selective depth. The Suns may be able to go 10-11 deep but said depth may not be in all the right places. Nevertheless, the Suns return one of the best second units in the NBA and have enhanced it with the additions of Childress and Warrick.

The additions of Josh Childress and Hedo Turkoglu allow Steve Nash to play off the ball more. The idea is that with Turk's ball handling skills, the Suns can utilize Nash's high shooting percentage to make up some of the scoring they lost with Amare Stoudemire's departure. The move also allows Nash to rest more and reduce the normal wear and tear he obtains during the normal 82 game season at PG. Childress can play at the 2 or 3 and provides a solid bench presence to spell either Jason Richardson or Grant Hill.

Last season the Suns weren't picked to win anything. The experts said the usual: Phoenix was too soft on the boards, they couldn't play defense, yet they didn't have enough firepower to run like the old SSOL days. Alvin Gentry and Co. responded to the predictions by creating a hybrid version of the D'Antoni led Suns that ran wild when they could, yet also continued use of the pick and roll. Robin Lopez's development allowed for his use as an inside scoring option.

3) What are the team's weaknesses?

Size, Front Court Depth, Age

Robin Lopez is a curly headed beast who made huge strides last season after overcoming some early season injuries and the infamous "glass door" incident. But he has spine problems that may prove to be chronic and catastrophic to the Suns. If he goes down for any significant length of time, the season could easily go sideways for Phoenix. Then again, they made a nice playoff push without his presence last season. Let's just say life is easier with a healthy Lopez.

The same goes for Grant Hill and Steve Nash, both who reside on the wrong side of 30 continue to defy age and the experts by playing 80 something games per season. Significant injuries (knockin on wood) could make things pretty dang difficult for the Suns.

Amare Stoudemire was correctly deemed to be a defensive liability, however he brought down 20+ points and 9 boards a game last season. No one expects that individually from Hedo Turkoglu, Channing Frye or Hakim Warrick. The Suns have once again imparted the "rebound by committee" plan due to their lack of enforcers up front. Rookie Gani Lawal and Dwayne Jones should help out in the dirtworker role yet both of them are offensive liabilities at this point.


4) What are the goals for this team?

It begins with acclimating the new acquisitions and finding the chemistry that catapulted the Suns into the 3 seed of the playoffs then Western Conference Finals last season. A run at the post season is a reasonable goal for them. But a deep run in a reloaded Western Conference will be difficult. But if we've learned anything from last season, this team is capable of nearly anything when running on all cylinders.

5) What Could Have the Biggest influence on the upcoming season?

Chemistry. Injuries. Size

There are a flood of "if's" surrounding the Phoenix Suns entering the 2010-11 season. If Robin Lopez's back gives him trouble and results in significant time off the court, the Suns could be in for a long season due to their lack of front court size. If Steve Nash misses significant time, is Goran Dragic ready to step in to the starters shoes? If the new guys cannot play together, make up for Amare's loss... if, if, if...Bad news all around. That's the pessimistic and "expert" view. On the other hand, the new guys know how to play the game, it's up to Alvin Gentry to mix and match. After some experimentation, this team could be a very tough match up for a lot of teams. Gentry even believes they are better than last season. I think he may be right.

Predicted Regular Season Record: 51-31

Final Thought:

BRING ON THE SEASON BOYS!!! There's a whole mess of local and overseas Suns fans who CANNOT WAIT to see how this squad performs come tip off.

 

This preview is part of the annual mega Internet-wide preview series organized and hosted by Celtics Blog. Be sure to check out the other Suns previews at: SB Nation Arizona and Valley of the Suns.

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Im ready to find out

What our team has in store for us and as I said before every year theres one guy we never expected that steps up and has a huge presence for us,cant wait to see who it is this year!

by stevedavis_ on Sep 23, 2010 9:06 AM MDT reply actions  

Collective depth could also be called selective depth.

Good call.

by waxmonkey on Sep 23, 2010 9:19 AM MDT reply actions  

Nice preview, Wil!

Regarding the season, we won’t know till we know.

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by Alex Laugan on Sep 23, 2010 9:37 AM MDT reply actions  

Gracias

right…thats why they play the game….can’t wait to rub the NBA pundits noses in it.

Blogging Suns Basketball. Twitter: @willcantrellphx

by Wil Cantrell on Sep 23, 2010 9:51 AM MDT up reply actions  

One year ago

I would have never guessed that the theme of the 2010-2011 Suns Preview would be that “The Suns will go as far as Robin Lopez takes us” without the team’s ‘ceiling’ being the #1 pick in the draft.

Seriously, if Robin Lopez plays 75 games and gets 12-15 points and 7 rebounds per 25 minutes, the Suns will be a high seed. And Robin will get some all-star game votes too.

What a difference a year makes.

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by Alex Laugan on Sep 23, 2010 10:44 AM MDT reply actions  

Yup, I started thinking last season that Lopez was probably a future All-Star.

by 8472species on Sep 23, 2010 10:44 AM MDT up reply actions  

I think

rolos impact will be far greater than what his p&rpg avgs are,I to am hoping ffor 75 games.

by stevedavis_ on Sep 23, 2010 10:54 AM MDT up reply actions  

only 25mins a game for lopez?

i know Lopez basically split time with frye last year, but surely with him being our only real post presence/defender he’ll be getting closer to 30-35mpg

by DaveJD on Sep 23, 2010 1:05 PM MDT up reply actions  

but that means Frye only gets 10-15?

there’s too many guys for anyone to average 30+ on a regular basis. it will have to be game by game

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by Alex Laugan on Sep 23, 2010 2:30 PM MDT up reply actions  

I feel pretty confident

that a couple of guys (Nash, Richardson specifically) will average 32-33 a game this year. But your overall point is pretty much spot on — there’s potential for 10 different guys to get about 20 minutes of burn each game.

by Azreous on Sep 23, 2010 4:46 PM MDT up reply actions  

We'll have so many guys that deserve minutes

that i think eventually somebody is going to get unhappy, no matter how much the coaching staff try to prevent it. I hope it doesn’t affect chemistry too badly.

by DaveJD on Sep 23, 2010 4:53 PM MDT up reply actions  

no no no

Thats why you play him around 25 min a game so his body will be able to handle as many games as possible then in the playoffs you hope he can go 30+ min

by stevedavis_ on Sep 24, 2010 8:58 AM MDT up reply actions  

Damn I can't wait

Is there a better time of year than late October?
No more 100 degree weather, the start of the Suns’ season, Halloween, a nice chill-out period before the holiday madness… get me there!

"We didn’t go for coffee and this kind of stuff."
-El Dragon on his relationship with Sasha Vujacic

by RMason on Sep 23, 2010 10:47 AM MDT reply actions  

I’m with you on that one. October is just a great month overall.

Don't trade Dudley!

by Beavis 25 on Sep 23, 2010 12:08 PM MDT up reply actions  

I hate summer in PHX

I truly,truly,truly hate the summer here. no bball, fuck off heat, I always get fat and depressed cuz I can’t go outside and be active.

"I’ve been in the league 14 years and I don’t think I’ve been called for a carry yet. It’s news to me," "I’ve never heard anyone complain about me carrying the ball. The best coach in the league Gregg Popovich didn’t have a problem with it last week."

by 2NASHTY on Sep 23, 2010 3:02 PM MDT up reply actions  

think so? my rational is when it’s fuck off cold you can always put more layers on, when it’s fuck off hot i can only get naked. and then I’m gonna be dying of heat while being laughed at.

"I’ve been in the league 14 years and I don’t think I’ve been called for a carry yet. It’s news to me," "I’ve never heard anyone complain about me carrying the ball. The best coach in the league Gregg Popovich didn’t have a problem with it last week."

by 2NASHTY on Sep 23, 2010 3:33 PM MDT up reply actions  

I just have an opposite opinion

when it’s f-in cold there’s never enough layers to add to stay warm, while in Phoenix there’s A/C everywhere.

And its much more fun to check out the women in Phoenix’s offseason than in PA’s offseason.

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by Alex Laugan on Sep 23, 2010 3:36 PM MDT up reply actions  

good point but i still hate the summer here, and seems to get longer every year

"I’ve been in the league 14 years and I don’t think I’ve been called for a carry yet. It’s news to me," "I’ve never heard anyone complain about me carrying the ball. The best coach in the league Gregg Popovich didn’t have a problem with it last week."

by 2NASHTY on Sep 23, 2010 3:47 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but you can huddle up for “body heat”.

by waxmonkey on Sep 23, 2010 4:16 PM MDT up reply actions  

yet back east in the winters

women tend to add more layers than just clothing. So cuddling up is not as interesting…

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by Alex Laugan on Sep 23, 2010 4:22 PM MDT up reply actions  


Sir Mix-a-Lot begs to differ.

by waxmonkey on Sep 23, 2010 4:26 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

.......unless you got buns hun

"I’ve been in the league 14 years and I don’t think I’ve been called for a carry yet. It’s news to me," "I’ve never heard anyone complain about me carrying the ball. The best coach in the league Gregg Popovich didn’t have a problem with it last week."

by 2NASHTY on Sep 23, 2010 4:39 PM MDT up reply actions  

I don't think these people realize what women turn into in a real winter

These monsters pack on the pounds and are pale white.

Nothing more depressing than 6 months of not seeing the sun, sure makes for great atmosphere to go to school with nothing else to do.

In God we trust, all others must bring data.

by PandRisDead on Sep 23, 2010 10:07 PM MDT up reply actions  

I need Suns basketball

Great preview. I know we will be better than everyone expects… isn’t that always the case?

"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"

by PanamaSun on Sep 23, 2010 10:57 AM MDT reply actions  

So record wise:

does 51 wins seem about right? it may take some time and early season losses to get the rotation/chemistry right, but i think this squad (barring something awful) could easily pick up 50+

Blogging Suns Basketball. Twitter: @willcantrellphx

by Wil Cantrell on Sep 23, 2010 11:09 AM MDT up reply actions  

agree

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Sep 23, 2010 11:30 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yea, last year we were 26-21 if I’m correct before we finally got things together and went 28-7.

Don't trade Dudley!

by Beavis 25 on Sep 23, 2010 12:09 PM MDT up reply actions  

I'm thinking 54-55, but I'm an optimist

Also, Nash has gotten us 54+ wins every year except the Porter year, and he is the only constant on all those teams.

Blogging Suns Basketball at Bright Side of the Sun

by Alex Laugan on Sep 23, 2010 12:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

Improvement from about 26 teams could mean fewer wins for those at the top.

I’m not necessarily worried about win totals, I’m waorried about what spot we’ll end up in. I still don’t know what the scale will be as far as getting into the playoffs.

by Omaha Sun on Sep 23, 2010 9:21 PM MDT up reply actions  

I'm not worried about win totals or what spot we'll end up in

I’m only worried about how deep we go in the playoffs. 50 win seasons are meaningless to me at this point with playoff heartache after playoff heartache.

In God we trust, all others must bring data.

by PandRisDead on Sep 23, 2010 10:09 PM MDT up reply actions  

I don't expect the same start as last season...

But hopefully we do not have the midseason slump like last year’s… If they could have just held onto to some of those “small” 20 point leads, we could’ve won 60 games last year. I think 50+ is reasonable, but I think a lot of it will depend on the new guys playing some quality minutes. I am interested to see how Hedo is integrated in the lineup… He is tall, so he would be a matchup nightmare at the 3, but that is most likely not going to be where he plays… I am thinking that with the Suns quickness they should be able to provide inside help and allow him to play the 4. We could also put Frye at the 4 in certain scenarios against teams with 2 7 footers on the floor simultaneously, so as long as he doesn’t disappear like he did in the Finals…

by Gildo on Sep 24, 2010 6:53 PM MDT up reply actions  

Nice job Wil - that will quench my hunger for a few hours!

Got a question: Would you trade RoLo for Greg Oden?

Beware of the Anger of a Patient man.

by saint13 on Sep 23, 2010 10:59 AM MDT reply actions  

oh jesus no.

both could have their careers ended prematurely, but i love Robin’s temperament and touch from around 8-10.

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by Wil Cantrell on Sep 23, 2010 11:08 AM MDT up reply actions  

When Oden's healthy he's a top 4 center already

but he’s only played 1/3 of possible games in his career and he’s a completely different style change for us. Theres no way i’d do it.

by DaveJD on Sep 23, 2010 1:10 PM MDT up reply actions  

That's kind of the point

He may be great but he can’t stay on the floor long enough to prove it. I’ve probably seen him play 2 games so perhaps he is better than Lopez. Still I know what Lopez brings to the Suns and I dig it.

Blogging Suns Basketball. Twitter: @willcantrellphx

by Wil Cantrell on Sep 23, 2010 2:35 PM MDT up reply actions  

When Oden and Lopez play healthy

then Oden is the better player. However, that’s like saying Coke is better than Pepsi at this point, because we haven’t seen either of them play as well as they possibly can yet.

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by Alex Laugan on Sep 23, 2010 2:36 PM MDT up reply actions  

Lopez is a much better fit for our system completely ignoring the health issue

When you have a guy like Oden you slow it down and dump it in the post, Lopez is more mobile, has more range (if the offseason reports are true that he now has a decent midrange game) and still brings a defensive presence. Plus Lopez has great intangibles like his awesome hair and the fact that their is absolutely no risk i will accidently stumble accross a picture of his penis on the internet.

by DaveJD on Sep 23, 2010 3:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

scott howard J.O.M.

"I’ve been in the league 14 years and I don’t think I’ve been called for a carry yet. It’s news to me," "I’ve never heard anyone complain about me carrying the ball. The best coach in the league Gregg Popovich didn’t have a problem with it last week."

by 2NASHTY on Sep 23, 2010 3:35 PM MDT up reply actions  

absolutely no risk i will accidently stumble accross a picture of his penis on the internet.

There’s probably more of a chance that you’ll stumble over his actual penis.

"We didn’t go for coffee and this kind of stuff."
-El Dragon on his relationship with Sasha Vujacic

by RMason on Sep 23, 2010 4:43 PM MDT up reply actions  

Coke is better than Pepsi.

by waxmonkey on Sep 23, 2010 4:17 PM MDT up reply actions   2 recs

Oh, now it's on, monkey!

It’s all poison.

Auntie Em: Hate you, hate Kansas, taking the dog.
Dorothy

by haremoor on Sep 23, 2010 4:48 PM MDT up reply actions  

Rec

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Sep 23, 2010 4:48 PM MDT up reply actions  

BOO!!!

Pepsi all the way!

Although I prefer fruit-flavored soda (Sunkist, etc,) over cola.

by Omaha Sun on Sep 23, 2010 9:23 PM MDT up reply actions  

No way jose

(Besides the obvious ‘glass knees’ of Oden)
Oden may have a more appealing skill-set on the surface -

But emotionally I prefer the fiery-borderline-crazy motor of Lopez to the soft-feels-sorry-for-himself-all-the-time batteries Oden is sporting

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Sep 23, 2010 4:47 PM MDT up reply actions  

I read Prada's Suns preview.

It was surprisingly sound, considering the couple of times he whiffed badly when writing about the Suns.

"We didn’t go for coffee and this kind of stuff."
-El Dragon on his relationship with Sasha Vujacic

by RMason on Sep 23, 2010 11:14 AM MDT reply actions  

Should I know what a Prada is

Is he like a Chad Ford type?

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by Wil Cantrell on Sep 23, 2010 11:26 AM MDT up reply actions  

He was

probably really careful this time around since we’ve blasted him the last few times he’s written about the Suns

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Sep 23, 2010 11:37 AM MDT up reply actions  

It's listed on the right

Under SBNation.com recent stories.

"We didn’t go for coffee and this kind of stuff."
-El Dragon on his relationship with Sasha Vujacic

by RMason on Sep 23, 2010 1:34 PM MDT up reply actions  

Oh, I thought you were making a joke about the spam we get on the site

Cuz, I’m pretty sure I know where you can get a great deal on a Prada handbag!

"Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please."
~Mark Twain

by East Bay Ray on Sep 23, 2010 12:37 PM MDT up reply actions  

FWIW

he pronounces is “Pray-da”

He’s a good guy…strong opinions and East Coast bias but he’s solid for sure.

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by Seth Pollack on Sep 23, 2010 2:27 PM MDT up reply actions  

Good stuff, Wil

Balanced, reasonable analysis, and you acknowledge both best and worst case scenarios. That’s always important, but especially so with this team since we have more wild cards than most. We had major upheaval for a team that made the conference finals, but it wasn’t a blow up to rebuild, more like a makeover.

Personally, I think a lot of mainstream media guys miss out because they are lazy and say, “Amare’s an all-star, they lost him and didn’t replace him with an all-star, therefore they’re worse,” and that’s the extent of their analysis. And, it might end up being that simple, but who knows? Anything between 40-55 wins wouldn’t surprise me.

"Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please."
~Mark Twain

by East Bay Ray on Sep 23, 2010 12:45 PM MDT reply actions  

Somehow, someway we will go 98-0.

Don't trade Dudley!

by Beavis 25 on Sep 23, 2010 12:53 PM MDT up reply actions  

Somehow? Someway?

"Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please."
~Mark Twain

by East Bay Ray on Sep 23, 2010 2:26 PM MDT up reply actions  

I think you know the way, Beavis

By Dudley averaging a triple double for the season, and making the game-winning shot every time we’re in danger of losing.

"Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please."
~Mark Twain

by East Bay Ray on Sep 23, 2010 2:27 PM MDT up reply actions  

Duh

we’ll just turn the in-game sliders all the way to 99 for every attribute.

(nerd-alert)

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Sep 23, 2010 4:50 PM MDT up reply actions  

Back to Amare

The national media is so f’d up. He was overvalued by the Knicks or they were desperate to get a piece to build around, or whatever, the national media latched on to that and now view the Suns as a team that lost a mega star and didn’t get one back. nevermind refilling on quality talent with reasonable contracts…they just dont get that.

Blogging Suns Basketball. Twitter: @willcantrellphx

by Wil Cantrell on Sep 23, 2010 2:30 PM MDT up reply actions  

I agree

though I’m crossing my fingers to fend off the jynx this blasphemy will likely cause.

I do think Amare was overrated, and I swear to all that is holy I don’t mean this in a negative way. The guy was an all-star and deservedly so. But top 5 in the league? On offense, maybe. I love Amare and cringe when I think about what will happen to him in NY. I really do.

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by Alex Laugan on Sep 23, 2010 2:34 PM MDT up reply actions  

Agreed on Amare from the Knicks standpoint

They overpaid him. I remember when the news of the Knicks offer came out, my first thought was “this is good news; the Knicks overpay everyone! It means we’re making the right move not to do what they would do.” I still believe that. But we did lose a great player, our leading scorer, and I understand skepticism that we can’t do that and just go along our merry way as good as we were before.

"Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please."
~Mark Twain

by East Bay Ray on Sep 23, 2010 3:21 PM MDT up reply actions  

The Knicks have admitted that they would have paid anything.

The people making the decision would have lost their jobs if they didn’t land him or someone like him, therefore, they didn’t care about the last two years of the contract.

Auntie Em: Hate you, hate Kansas, taking the dog.
Dorothy

by haremoor on Sep 23, 2010 4:52 PM MDT up reply actions  

To be honest why do WE care as fans about the last 2 years of his contract here?

Are we in a better position now to win a championship 4 or 5 years out from now without Amare? Not at all.

He would have had 3 more years with Nash to win a ring, and a possible injury the 4-5 year (but who really knows) where he’d be a great expiring contract in year 5 anyway with the new CBA and at 22+ per year.

There’s just too much that could happen between now and the “dangerous” part of his contract. One injury to ANY of the Lakers big 4 and we surpass them in a 7 game series. Odom and Bynum are very injury prone and Kobe is looking a bit older, one twisted ankle in that series and we win it. Stupid to throw that all away.

In God we trust, all others must bring data.

by PandRisDead on Sep 23, 2010 10:21 PM MDT up reply actions  

that formula never completed the mission

so to sign Amare to 5 guaranteed yrs is to get 2-3 more kinda good yrs and then 2-3 yrs of total hell. Houston with McGrady. Washington with Arenas. Philly with Brand. And there’s a dozen more where that came from.

Suns made the right choice, IMO

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by Alex Laugan on Sep 23, 2010 10:29 PM MDT up reply actions  

Kinda good years? He’s never had a knee issue since his surgery nor has he shown much sign of slowing down. Maybe the trainers know something the public didn’t, dude looked like an ox last year. There’s no evidence to show he couldn’t have 3 more years along side Nash.

Everything else is just smoke by Sarver for being content selling out US Airways Arena every game and dropping 4 games in a row in the 1st round.

In God we trust, all others must bring data.

by PandRisDead on Sep 23, 2010 10:37 PM MDT up reply actions  

Well, will see how it all plays out.

Don't trade Dudley!

by Beavis 25 on Sep 23, 2010 10:42 PM MDT up reply actions  

maybe I'm understating how healthy Amare will be

and you’re understating Sarver’s intentions…

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by Alex Laugan on Sep 23, 2010 10:43 PM MDT up reply actions  

Haha man I hate Sarver.

I got 5 ex Goldman Sachs running my baseball team over here in the AL East, the tightest mofos but still not as tight as Sarver.

In God we trust, all others must bring data.

by PandRisDead on Sep 23, 2010 10:48 PM MDT up reply actions  

We've argued these points to death. It's an accomplished fact, regarding Amar'e.

But I believe he would be making 24 mil in year 4 and 27 mil in year 5. That’s an awful lot for an untradeable asset. And it’s not just his knees – his eye is also uninsurable, and one blow to the head from a detached retina. And I don’t think Sarver was cheap regarding his offer to Amar’e, either – but like I said, that’s been argued to death.
   Alex is right – Amar’e, as good as he was, didn’t get us over the hump. I saw a lot of improvement in his basketball IQ in his tenure with the Suns, but it’s still not as high as it needs to be, and it holds him back as a player. Besides, with the trade chips and flexibility we have going into the new CBA is something we would not have had if we had kept Amar’e.

Auntie Em: Hate you, hate Kansas, taking the dog.
Dorothy

by haremoor on Sep 23, 2010 11:32 PM MDT up reply actions  

Realistically trade chips are nice but you gotta be critical of idiot management.

Rarely if ever do you see teams make it to the brink of a championship and then not add assets to get them over the hump for the next season. And even more rarely do you see teams take a step backwards talent-wise. Just plain idiot management.

Teams build for decades to be able to compete for a title. When you’re there you don’t throw it away because of (unqualified) worries 4-5 years in the future you do everything possible to win now because who knows if you’ll ever get back there again “especially at 37”. We could have been able to add Turk this Summer anyway, I truly believe that would have gotten us over the hump.

Now I have nothing to look forward to after baseball is over, its first time in recent memory I can say that about the Suns and its depressing.

In God we trust, all others must bring data.

by PandRisDead on Sep 23, 2010 11:52 PM MDT up reply actions  

Its okay buddy its not your fault.

In God we trust, all others must bring data.

by PandRisDead on Sep 24, 2010 12:08 AM MDT up reply actions  

I just feel more for Nash, the most unselfish player who has every played, rather never win a championship but be loyal to his team.

In God we trust, all others must bring data.

by PandRisDead on Sep 24, 2010 12:11 AM MDT up reply actions  

Turn it green!

"Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please."
~Mark Twain

by East Bay Ray on Sep 24, 2010 9:37 AM MDT up reply actions  

done

"I’ve been in the league 14 years and I don’t think I’ve been called for a carry yet. It’s news to me," "I’ve never heard anyone complain about me carrying the ball. The best coach in the league Gregg Popovich didn’t have a problem with it last week."

by 2NASHTY on Sep 24, 2010 11:48 AM MDT up reply actions  

What are you talking about?
Now I have nothing to look forward to after baseball is over,

From your past comments, I’ve gathered that you’re also a Heat and Magic fan, so obviously you have plenty to look forward to.

I’m curious, do you complain on their blogs as much as you do here?

"We didn’t go for coffee and this kind of stuff."
-El Dragon on his relationship with Sasha Vujacic

by RMason on Sep 24, 2010 11:37 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yes

I’m a tough to please consumer.

In God we trust, all others must bring data.

by PandRisDead on Sep 24, 2010 11:41 PM MDT up reply actions  

The moral of this website is unmatched by any other team

Yankess, Red Sox, Lakers, Celtics, Magic etc… pull a stunt like this in the off season after a great finals push you aren’t going to find such optimistic fans.

Seth is a professional writer who has his credibility to look after, you won’t find him saying anywhere that this team constructed as is is better than our squad last year.

You chumps don’t have to write for a career so you can say whatever you want, no matter how outlandish it is.

In God we trust, all others must bring data.

by PandRisDead on Sep 24, 2010 11:49 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

And so can you. Ain't it grand?

I don’t see any reason not to be optimistic. Every day I wake up, get my coffee, and check out BSOTS. I think about the season to come, and it makes me happy – all day. Every day I’m happy, I win. It has no effect on what will happen when the season starts, we may very well suck, but until we actually suck, I’m not going to concern myself with it. These are free happy days – we’re tied for first, and anything’s possible. How can you not take the opportunity to have free happy days?
     Today went in the win column, by the way.

Auntie Em: Hate you, hate Kansas, taking the dog.
Dorothy

by haremoor on Sep 25, 2010 12:02 AM MDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the help buddy, but I think I’ll be fine. I’ll just have a lot fewer 2am nights up watching the game so its a win win. ;)

In God we trust, all others must bring data.

by PandRisDead on Sep 25, 2010 12:10 AM MDT up reply actions  

What's your sig mean?

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Sep 26, 2010 4:00 PM MDT up reply actions  

As a Blazer fan I thought the best move you guys made was getting Childress

I was rabidly against the Blazers signing Turk in 2008, but I could see how it would have worked. I have the same reservations about him on the Suns, but hopefully he’ll rebound from his Toronto debacle and produce again.

I know less than half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.

by haildablazer on Sep 23, 2010 1:39 PM MDT reply actions  

Chill

My only concern about Chill is that he’s been playing overseas (not NBA talent) for a couple years. It may take him some time to get the speed of the game down, but I know he will, and he’ll be a great all around team player for the Suns.

I’m not going to lie, I love the squad assembled. Regardless of how it plays out, they will be really fun to watch.

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by Wil Cantrell on Sep 23, 2010 2:32 PM MDT up reply actions  

i'm thinking that Childress could be like our version of Trevor Ariza (2008-9 Lakers Vintage)

Pest on D, always comes up with a steal when you need one, mainly a slasher on offense but can hit the 3pt shot and only does what he knows he can do with the ball.

by DaveJD on Sep 23, 2010 3:27 PM MDT up reply actions  

I agree that Childress was the best move made this summer.

He was exactly what we have been calling for for a while: length, athleticism, and a defensive presence on the perimeter while still being competent offensively. We gave up virtually nothing for him, and he was thought very highly of everywhere I looked.

by Omaha Sun on Sep 23, 2010 9:29 PM MDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t by an means say Childress is a 3 point shooter, but at this level anyone shooting wide open jumpers can knock them down. A la Marion. So I’m sure he will hit over 100 this year.

In God we trust, all others must bring data.

by PandRisDead on Sep 23, 2010 10:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

probably will hit over 100

and he’s already better than Marion. Marion is a career 3-pt shooter < 34% with nash feeding him. Childress was career 36% before Nash. I’m thinking we’re good.

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by Alex Laugan on Sep 23, 2010 10:30 PM MDT up reply actions  

Totally agree, I’d like to see numbers pre and post Nash for Marion. I bet he is shooting in the teens now at the arc.

In God we trust, all others must bring data.

by PandRisDead on Sep 23, 2010 10:37 PM MDT up reply actions  

2008-09 he shot 18.9% from 3, and 2009-10 he shot 15.8%.

In 2007-08, from the arc he shot 34.7% in Phoenix, and 25.8% the same year with Miami.
Pretty big drop off, huh?

Auntie Em: Hate you, hate Kansas, taking the dog.
Dorothy

by haremoor on Sep 23, 2010 11:38 PM MDT up reply actions  

Nice stats bra

In God we trust, all others must bring data.

by PandRisDead on Sep 23, 2010 11:40 PM MDT up reply actions  

I have this feeling

that I’m trying desperately to keep quiet until I see the man play. But I do envision good things with Childress.

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by Alex Laugan on Sep 23, 2010 2:35 PM MDT up reply actions  

I’ve already set up camp on the Chill bandwagon, and am headed out on the Oregon trail.

by waxmonkey on Sep 23, 2010 4:21 PM MDT up reply actions  

just don’t tell peach tree hoops

"I’ve been in the league 14 years and I don’t think I’ve been called for a carry yet. It’s news to me," "I’ve never heard anyone complain about me carrying the ball. The best coach in the league Gregg Popovich didn’t have a problem with it last week."

by 2NASHTY on Sep 23, 2010 4:41 PM MDT up reply actions  

Here's a tip

Don’t try forging the Snake River. Buy the ferry.

by jc79 on Sep 23, 2010 5:50 PM MDT up reply actions  

lol

I just had flashbacks to my childhood.

I know less than half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.

by haildablazer on Sep 23, 2010 5:54 PM MDT up reply actions  

Shit I never buy the ferry.

Caulk and float across!

Of course I want to go hunting!

by waxmonkey on Sep 23, 2010 6:54 PM MDT up reply actions  

what you mean that’s all i can carry…fuck that make a second trip you lazy banker from bosten!

"I’ve been in the league 14 years and I don’t think I’ve been called for a carry yet. It’s news to me," "I’ve never heard anyone complain about me carrying the ball. The best coach in the league Gregg Popovich didn’t have a problem with it last week."

by 2NASHTY on Sep 23, 2010 10:32 PM MDT up reply actions  

I've watched every foreign video of this guy

while he was playing oversees – if he’s even as productive and smart (BBIQ) as he was in those clips I will be elated.

I’m positive he’ll play fine.

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Sep 23, 2010 4:53 PM MDT up reply actions  

Blazers and Suns

Have a lot of similarities. We both had front office shakeups that were at best questionable and at worst insane. We both are desperately hoping that our injury-prone centers will stay healthy, and wouldn’t you know it, there we are facing off in the season opener.

It’s like Planes, Trains and Automobiles. The Suns are Steve Martin and the Blazers are John Candy. We just can’t avoid eachother.

"We didn’t go for coffee and this kind of stuff."
-El Dragon on his relationship with Sasha Vujacic

by RMason on Sep 23, 2010 2:39 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but didn't they both end up covered in crap?

Auntie Em: Hate you, hate Kansas, taking the dog.
Dorothy

by haremoor on Sep 23, 2010 4:54 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah but

I personally identify more with Steve Martin than John Candy

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by Alex Laugan on Sep 23, 2010 5:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

Those aren't pillows.

I know less than half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.

by haildablazer on Sep 23, 2010 5:55 PM MDT up reply actions  

51-31? I doubt it, I’d say more like 45-37

"Remember this sh*t at christmas!"-Terry Crews, The Expendables

by Bkj on Sep 23, 2010 5:42 PM MDT reply actions  

I was thinking more like 98-0

Don't trade Dudley!

by Beavis 25 on Sep 24, 2010 11:36 AM MDT up reply actions  

+ googleplex

"I’ve been in the league 14 years and I don’t think I’ve been called for a carry yet. It’s news to me," "I’ve never heard anyone complain about me carrying the ball. The best coach in the league Gregg Popovich didn’t have a problem with it last week."

by 2NASHTY on Sep 24, 2010 11:42 AM MDT up reply actions  

Good writeup

Agreed with most everything you said, good to hear someone else agree with me that size is the main problem here.

Not sure I’d take Gentry’s word to heart that we will be better next year. The sum of Amare’s parts are not greater than the whole.

The fat Eastern European will be coming off the bench by 20 games in mark my words, I cannot wait to see Warrick on the P&R with Nashty

In God we trust, all others must bring data.

by PandRisDead on Sep 23, 2010 10:03 PM MDT reply actions  

I don’t want to jinx us but a healthy team is nothing to worry about. One big advantage we have is the the fountain of youth. Nash and Hill maybe on the wrong side of 30 but they said that about Stockton and Malone for years. Plus no other team has the chemistry we have great things are going to happen this year I can feel it, bring it on.

by Sunderstruck on Sep 24, 2010 5:17 PM MDT reply actions  

Age is never a factor w/ the Suns. Nash is like 40 yo and still faster than most players half his age. Their frontcourt depth is much better than it has been in years. Since Nash can make anyone look like an allstar, Amare was expendable

by Jeffrey Thompson on Sep 29, 2010 6:40 AM MDT reply actions  

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