Goran Dragic: Slovenia's Best Player Needs To Beat The Scouting Report
Pool play is over at the FIBA World Championships, sending teams like Iran and Tunisia home and leaving the final 16 to fight for medals.
After 5 games, Goran Dragic is clearly his team's best player. Yet, he's played better against weaker competition (Croatia, Tunisia and Iran) than the strong ones (USA and Brazil).
After the jump, we analyze his tournament so far. The good and the bad. And how he can overcome a very accurate scouting report.
Ha ha - Brett Brown, the coach of the Australians, is a San Antonio Spurs assistant!
As an assistant coach with NBA club San Antonio in last season's Western Conference semi-finals, Brown could only watch as Dragic scored 23 of his 26 points in the fourth quarter of game three as Phoenix launched a furious comeback.
They would win the game for a 3-0 lead and ultimately sweep the series.
"We couldn't stop him," Brown told AAP. "He had 23 points in that period and we had no answer for him.
"The Phoenix Suns ended up sweeping the Spurs and we pride ourselves on defence.
"I have haunting memories of Dragic and all of that."
Goran Dragic has become the face of the Slovenian National Team
Overall per/game stats: 13 pts, 3.8 rebs, 3.6 assists
- Team leader in: minutes, free throw attempts, assists, turnovers and points.
- Nearly led team in: 2-pt FG % (2nd) and Rebounds (3rd)
So Goran spends a lot of time playing off the ball, explaining why his rebound totals are higher than his assists, year over year. The team looks good when he's running point, but the Slovenian coach still likes the veteran wiles of Lakovic, despite his diminishing effectiveness. In fact, the coach's affinity for Lakovic led Beno Udrih to leave the team this summer without a promise to start ahead of Lakovic or Dragic. Of course, you can't argue with the coach at this point. Slovenia is 4-1 in this tourney, and Lakovic had this best game in their biggest win (against Brazil, with 20 pts and 5 assists).
Another reason you can't totally rely on Goran in crunch time against good teams yet: the scouting report.
Force him to his right, and he's much less effective.
Teams with the defensive skillset to keep Goran going right (USA and Brazil) held him in check. Even when Slovenia screens his defender on a lefty drive, the opposing big man has been able to switch and show hard, forcing Goran back the other way.
Goran is going to have to figure out a counter-punch to this tactic. Of course, he's not the only person in the league who likes to drive with his strong hand. Kobe's scouting report is much the same, except with the opposite hand. So is Lamar Odom's. And Leandro Barbosa's. And Manu Ginobili's. In fact, very few players can drive effectively with either hand.
One counter-punch to the over-hard-show-on-a-switch tactic is the step-through move. Ginobili developed a dribble-through/step-through move to split the defenders. Once you split them, there's an open court for the strong lefty drive. And once you prove you can do this, their defense has to adjust by closing off the seam. Which means they can't show quite as wide or hard. Which opens up the lefty drive again.
Another counter-punch to forcing him to his right: isolation. Either before or after the switch. Just back up and get the defender in isolation with an open court. Barbosa and Ginobili do this all the time. Dragic and LB took turns doing this against the Spurs, and one of Dragic's top-10 highlights of the year was an isolation drive against the Lakers in the WCF. The downside of this is stagnating the offense. But at least you force the defense to pay for it's tactics.
Finally, a tried-and-true counterpunch to the over-hard show is to swing the ball back to the weak side. If the defense is doubling the pick-n-roll, that means you've got someone left open on the weak side for an easy score. This reduces the PG's "stats", but keeps the offense flowing.
Goran knows this and swings it back to the weak side all the time. And clearly this is working. Slovenia has a very efficient offense, and is 4-1 in the tourney.
The 4-1 record is extremely important to me. Goran is doing this - leading his team across the board in stats - in a winning environment. He's the definition of a PGPFWE.
Next Up
Now the round of 16 starts. No more creampuffs (Tunisia and Iran, for example). We'll see if Goran can overcome his scouting report and produce against better teams.
First up is Australia (link to preview). This should be a very winnable game. Slovenia played Australia twice in warmup games this summer, going 1-1. Since then, they've added Lakovic (above) and SF Bostjan Nachbar.
After that, it looks like Goran will be facing the Suns' highest-paid newcomer: Hedo Turkoglu. Turkey went 5-0 in the preliminary round, winning with a stifling defense. Yes, I just said that. Stifling defense.
Hedo is shooting poorly, but you can't discount the fact that his team is 5-0 and he's contributing to a very effective defense. Hedo may not be a good individual defender, but he's not a defense-killer either.
One of these guys' World Championships will be over by next Wednesday at the latest, in the quarterfinals.
And the other will likely move on to the medal rounds (final 4).
Which will it be?
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Southpaw dragic will come around
I remember when the scouting report said make amare go left,I think drago will get the counter move eventualy.
yeah thats what I'm thinking too
I am curious to see how quickly, now that he knows what the report says. Sometimes its just a matter of being ready for it. I’m not sure he was ready for USA and Brazil (to a lesser extent) to play him so hard that way. When a team overplays a defense, it only works for a short time because overplaying, by definition, leaves the rest of the court open.
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Alex
Thats why I said that the other day about slov letting him bring the ball up court A little more i think it would help him get a little more flow against the better teams and it would make them a little less predictable.
yeah but they just defer so much to Lakovic
for good reason – he’s a proven winner. and Slovenia is pretty happy, I think, with the way things are going overall. Can’t discount the 4-1 record to change the offense to center more on Goran even more than they have.
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Good point
A little off topic but slovenia #14-vidmark big man with some hops I think he tied up for the next few years to a turkish team He might be worth keeping an eye on.
Almost seems like he has regressed in that regard
Which I know isn’t the case, but we didn’t even see him fumble with the ball all throughout the playoffs like he has during this tournament. He had a couple nice counter moves to finish with his right against the Spurs and Lakers, could be the rigidity of Slovenia’s system that is holding him back.
I feel like he’ll have a hard time really stepping up in this tournament when he’s playing so much off the ball and isn’t really given room to create. You’d think that given what he can do they’d give Goran more of an opportunity, but it’s nice to see that he’s willing to take a lesser role (unlike Vujacic and Beno apparently) if it’s what his coach asks of him.
by hcblankscreen on Sep 3, 2010 10:09 AM MST up reply actions
If by not given more opportunity
you mean, playing more point guard position, then yes, he was not given more opportunity. But like Alex said, Lakovic has seniority, experience and little more understanding as to what to do in pressure situations.
Overall tough, Goran has plenty of opportunity to perfom well, and has been doing pretty well, altough i am suprised by his high number of turnovers, especially since those turnovers are mental mistakes. But coach still trusts him a lot, even when making mistakes, he stays is the game. Just shows how important he is to Slovenia.
Blaz
Yeah that's what I meant
I guess when Lakovic and Dragic are your two best guards, you have to play Goran at the 2 to give them both a lot of time. I just feel Goran’s best moments this past year with the Suns have come from playing the point and having the ball in his hands. A lot of times he seems to get the ball later in the shot clock and tries to rush into a move and force passes that aren’t there.
I have been impressed with his shot selection though, surprising to see a young, talented player that doesn’t take a lot of bad shots.
by hcblankscreen on Sep 3, 2010 12:08 PM MST up reply actions
He's a bust. Trade him for a second-round pick.
Auntie Em: Hate you, hate Kansas, taking the dog.
Dorothy
LaLa land is still looking to move the machine....
"I’ve been in the league 14 years and I don’t think I’ve been called for a carry yet. It’s news to me," "I’ve never heard anyone complain about me carrying the ball. The best coach in the league Gregg Popovich didn’t have a problem with it last week."
we don't need machines
we need players with heart. :-))
Sounds like you
might want to look in the mirror and check for a Bruise. I’m thinking you must’ve fell and bumped your head real hard. :-)
the V is pronounced with a B sound
like this….booooooo-ya-bitch
"I’ve been in the league 14 years and I don’t think I’ve been called for a carry yet. It’s news to me," "I’ve never heard anyone complain about me carrying the ball. The best coach in the league Gregg Popovich didn’t have a problem with it last week."
I thought one of the rules of BSOTS is that
you are not allowed to spell vucjicjicjicjicijcijajcijaic’s name correctly around here.
Stay frosty my friends!!
Yes Goran still has some weaknesses.
Aside from the “make him go right” thing, he seems to have trouble against ball pressure from the little guys. I remember Jrue Holiday giving him fits when the Suns played the Sixers.
"We didn’t go for coffee and this kind of stuff."
-El Dragon on his relationship with Sasha Vujacic
everyone has a scouting report of their weaknesses
the first stage is having one, but no one paying attention to it because he’s the 10th best player on the opponent. (year 1 and 2 on the Suns)
the next stage is when its readily available and players DO start paying attention to it because they need it to contain the player (Dragic, Odom, etc), and the media use it for a story
the third stage is when the player successfully counters the scouting report because he knows what it says. At this stage the contents of the report become private and protected (Kobe’s report, Nash’s, etc).
When we STOP hearing about the Dragic scouting report is when we know he’s made the next level.
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by Alex Laugan on Sep 3, 2010 9:39 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Very good points.
Hopefully Goran eliminates his scouting report. To use stevedavis’ analogy with Amare, smart defenders will always make good use of scouting. So many times during the WCF, I saw Pau roll out the red carpet for Amare to go left along the baseline, and usually Amare would still force it right, resulting in a wild shot or a turnover.
With Goran, I have noticed that he stands a little too tall while handling the ball. With his 6’4 frame it makes it easy for a defender to swipe at the ball and disrupt his game. Over time, you can expect to see coaches sub in a Brevin Knight-type player to counter the dragon.
I’m confident that Goran can adjust his game as needed. The man just seems dilligent.
"We didn’t go for coffee and this kind of stuff."
-El Dragon on his relationship with Sasha Vujacic
These are all good points.
However I am having a hard time justifying the judgement based on playing in the FIBAs. Yes he has his weakness but so does everyone else, and when you’re on a team that isn’t really concerned about it …. makes it kind of difficult to overcome these. How many games are they going to play? Hardly any compared to the NBA, so the comparison is more than slightly skewed. Yes, I know that everyone wants to see improvement and he has improved. But if your coach and teammates aren’t allowing you to be in a position to show your best stuff, then you play in the team concept. To do otherwise would be selfish and result in diminished playing time. Wait until the NBA season and then you can truly start to judge how much improvement has taken place. When the coach, team, and teammates are making your success one of the keys to their success you tend to be able to be more successful. As for standing too tall with the ball, Nash Did and does this quite alot also. With playing time( which will increase this year) he will learn to protect it better when pressured. Remember he is entering only his third year of the NBA, he will continue to develop. If only Earl Clark would!! Goran will be alright, just give him some space and let him grow. Just my opinion. Bye the way ….nice article Alex!
Did anyone watch Serbia beat Argentina 84-82 yesterday? It was a good game. Sucks that Argentina lost I was pulling for them. If Manu and Noc were there they would have easily killed em. I’m afraid those two guys are done playing for Argentina. They’re both in their early 30’s and have nagging injuries. Scola is dominating though.
Don't trade Dudley!
I working on my FIBA World Championship Bracket. I think Slovenia beats Australia and loses to Turkey. I think Turkey will than play Serbia in the semi’s. I actually think Serbia can win. USA will most likely crush Angola and I think Russia will beat New Zealand. I haven’t seen Russia play yet, so I don’t know whether they can challenge USA like Brazil did. They are 4-1 though. I can see USA being upset in the semi’s by either Lithuania or Brazil/Argentina.
Most likely it will be USA and either Turkey or Serbia in the Gold medal game. Spain went 3-2. If they had Paul they would without a doubt be the favorite to beat USA in the Gold medal game.
Don't trade Dudley!
If Slovenia plays the way they played against Brazil,
i think they can beat Australia and Turkey. Sure, they’ve got home court, but remember, there is about 5000 Slovenian fans there also.
I saw Russia play 2 games, very unimpressed so far.
Blaz
selfishly, I hope both are gone soon
so Turkoglu and Dragic get some rest.
Competitively though, I’d like to see one of them medal.
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I have to agree with you on both of these points.
I am kind of torn myself, on this matter.
I, also, am torn.
I feel the same way. I want them both to get back so they are rested and ready for training camp! But it would be great to see one of them get the winning experience!
Awesome article, by the way. You made a lot of great points.
"If the Suns can shock the world
Goran Dragic is the name."
by Dragic_is_Magic on Sep 3, 2010 4:03 PM MST up reply actions
Im starting to change my opinion
About guys resting vs playing for there natl teams,Guys like j dudley and hdubb among others workout and play 2 to 3 pick up games a DAY. Whats the diff? I would say it is probably more detrimental to a guy with hedos age and milage than goran.

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